Story of my life....

[WayFast84]

I swear to god...

Over the course of 4 years I put thousands of Dollars into my car, HOURS OF WORK. I'm a week away from the best day of my life. The car gets insured and registered. I slap on plates and theirs a whole big issue on how I wont be able to drive the car till it passes inspection when it wont pass inspection...

I'm pissed.

[LTb1ow]

Buy a sticker? Or find a buddy? Or just **** it and drive without it passing? Or as painful as it sounds, make it pass?

[sweetbmxrider]

dude if you fail, you have time to make the repairs and still drive it. read the fine print!

[LTb1ow]

And is there something that says if its more than X amount to fix your are exempt?

[WayFast84]

Buy a sticker, that was my plan... **** it, thats what I want to do. But nooooooooooooooooo cant do either of those.

IM SO MAD, I just install lower control arms and it takes like 6 hours because I have to wait for people to borrow a grease gun, then people talk up a storm and wont leave my house... and now after all the work I just did, TO MAKE IT DRIVABLE i cant drive it because for some ridiculous reason I cant just go to DMV get a fail sticker, then go back again and keep failing till the car is 25 years old............................................... .................................................

[LTb1ow]

Move to PA, classic is 15 years.

[bubba428]

the parents gittin strict on this one?

[bubba428]

Move to PA, classic is 15 years.

SCORE!!!!!

[Fast92RS]

I may have missed something why wont it pass? Do you have a cat on the car?

[WayFast84]

dude if you fail, you have time to make the repairs and still drive it. read the fine print!

Yes, thats my whole point, But how the **** is that the law, and I still cant be able to drive it till it passes an inspection..

I have like 15 days to inspect it, According to my mother, it cant be driven intill its inspected... and it has to pass in order for me to drive it..

**** THIS ****. I put so much time and money into this car, I quit sports so I can work to afford gas and insurance, and get parts and now i cant drive the car..

what a pain in the ass.

[LTb1ow]

I may have missed something why wont it pass? Do you have a cat on the car?

My car has cats, and it is farrr from passing.

[sweetbmxrider]

Buy a sticker, that was my plan... **** it, thats what I want to do. But nooooooooooooooooo cant do either of those.

IM SO MAD, I just install lower control arms and it takes like 6 hours because I have to wait for people to borrow a grease gun, then people talk up a storm and wont leave my house... and now after all the work I just did, TO MAKE IT DRIVABLE i cant drive it because for some ridiculous reason I cant just go to DMV get a fail sticker, then go back again and keep failing till the car is 25 years old............................................... .................................................

you should have gotten a pink card from the dmv when you registered your car. that is good for two weeks. you can then go get your car inspected from a state or private facility. you can have a fail sticker good for 2-45 days pending on what it fails for. emissions is 45. no seatbelts and other crazy safety issues is a 48 hour fail!

[Knipps]

you should have gotten a pink card from the dmv when you registered your car. that is good for two weeks. you can then go get your car inspected from a state or private facility. you can have a fail sticker good for 2-45 days pending on what it fails for. emissions is 45. no seatbelts and other crazy safety issues is a 48 hour fail!

Nothing is stopping him from driving other than his Mom. All the loopholes and BS won't get around her.

[ar0ck]

Your parents are just looking out for you. A failure to inspect is $150, you have the money for one when the cop with a keen eye pulls you over? I've gotten 4 of them & managed to talk myself out of another 4. Trust me they are no fun.

[sweetbmxrider]

you can drive your car on a fail sticker and on a pink card. your mom is wrong. there are some exceptions of course, but it doesn't sound like you are one of them.

[WayFast84]

Camshaft, Older motor then the car, skinnies, No brake lights, No wiring, only emissions on the car right now is the cat and its 3 years old, It will take a miracle or a look another way for this car to pass and according to my mother it has to pass legit.

[sweetbmxrider]

there are no loopholes or bs. if you have a pink card, you can drive your car. if you have a fail sticker, you can drive your car. get a tow truck and have them drop the car off at an inspection center for the love of chevy

[//<86TA>\\]

all i can say is be patient, i understand you have a lot of time and money invested on the car and your itching to drive it, but losing sleep over it is not going to make it happen any faster. Dont get impatient and do something stupid you will regret later.

[//<86TA>\\]

skinnies, No brake lights, No wiring, .

is it going through regular inspection? No brake lights! you will never pass, and could be rear ended just driving there. am i missing something:?:

[bubba428]

extreme weight reduction dawg

[ar0ck]

extreme weight reduction dawg

Just like not having rear brakes right?

[bubba428]

EXACTLY! your a smart feller...but no really its for monster burn outs LOL

[BigAls87Z28]

So wait...you cant drive it to inspection because....your mom said so?

First off...lets leave your mom out of this. In the end, she has zero to say about this cause she doesnt know wtf she is doing.

Second: What needs to be done to get the car to pass? Dont worry about the emissions, thats gunna be up to god at this point.
Im talking about horn, lights, mirrors, tread on the tires, seat belts work, blinkers work, etc etc.
Stop getting into a tizzy, just relax.

[bubba428]

well for tires hes going to have to put the stockers back on

[WayFast84]

is it going through regular inspection? No brake lights! you will never pass, and could be rear ended just driving there. am i missing something:?:

I ment reverse lights... i sorry I was just so pissed

[BonzoHansen]

First off...lets leave your mom out of this. In the end, she has zero to say about this cause she doesnt know wtf she is doing.
I disagree. He lives under her roof, she pays the bills (food, taxes, heat, etc., ...the bills), he is likely on her insurance policy. She is in charge.

Matt you are doing the right thing following your Mother's wishes. Respect.


List exactly why it will fail. The guys are right about thepink card & the time during failed sticker. If it is non-safety items discuss it with her. Safety items ground the car IMO.

[WayFast84]

Its reverse lights and horn, Emissions and how loud the car is(still real quiet). The skinnys on the front. and I need to rebuild my head light motors and have no clue how...

We never got the pink card... We are going back to the DMV tomorrow.

[BonzoHansen]

Its reverse lights and horn, Emissions and how loud the car is(still real quiet). The skinnys on the front. and I need to rebuild my head light motors and have no clue how...

We never got the pink card... We are going back to the DMV tomorrow.

None of that is safety (one could argue the rev lights and tire selection). If the front tires have a DOT on them (and are not bald) they are legal. If they don't you need street tires anyway.

Does the car have a cat?

What's with the r/l? The shifter?

[cdacda13]

Headlight motors are easy to re-build. Plus, the re-build kit comes with directions.
For reverse lights, are the bulbs bad? Or is the shifter out of adjustment? The shifter was out of adjustment on mine. Just play with it and have a friend stand behind the car to see when the lights work.
Bonzo's right, as long as the tires say DOT and aren't bald, you're good.
As for the sound, as long as it doesn't rattle the teeth, you should be fine.
The horn is most likely the button in the steering wheel. Get to them, spray some contact cleaner on them, and you'll be fine.

The finishing a car is much harder then starting a car.

[BonzoHansen]

The finishing a car is much harder then starting a car.Amen.

Hang in there Matt. As they say, if it were easy everybody would do it.

[WayFast84]

Its got a hurst .25stick it has no hook up for reverse lights.. I checked the contacts in the wheel and at the horn in the fender. Yes it has a cat.

[WildBillyT]

Its got a hurst .25stick it has no hook up for reverse lights.. I checked the contacts in the wheel and at the horn in the fender. Yes it has a cat.

Matt:


THE ORIGINALL QUARTER STICK®

• Designed for 2, 3 and 4-speed automatic transmissions in both forward and reverse valve body shift patterns
• Detent activation is controlled by a chrome-plated trigger contoured to fit comfortably into the driver’s hand
• Extremely compact and lightweight for tight fit cockpit installation and weighs only 2.5 pounds
• Comes with factory installed neutral safety switch (back-up light switch is available separately)
• Controlled gate stop activation for positive feel
• One-hand operated, spring loaded reverse Loc/Out mechanism enables drivers to clear the reverse Loc/Out while remaining strapped in their shoulder harness belts
• Comes complete with hardware, 5’ long shifter cable, and easy to follow installation guide
• Forged aluminum stick for added strength has 7/16-20 thread
• Optional covers (sold separately)


Now check out this, it looks like it may be what you need:
http://www.jegs.com/i/Hurst/530/248-8601/10002/-1/748547%7C10627#

Don't give up so easily. :mrgreen:

[WayFast84]

Thats just a switch, I can make my own damn toggle switch if I had to, But I thought the reverse lights would have to go on automatically???

[WildBillyT]

Thats just a switch, I can make my own damn toggle switch if I had to, But I thought the reverse lights would have to go on automatically???

That is all reverse switches are- they go on automatically when the stick is pulled back and it triggers the switch. A manually operated toggle is not legal for a few reasons.

If you are still skeptical, call Hurst and ask them.

[69BirdX]

Emmisons go ny what year the motor is in the car. If i put and ls1 in my 69 i have to pass emissons for that year ls1 but if i put my pontiac 350 in my 98 i wont have to pass emissons. As long as the engine is the same make as the car is is legal
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[BonzoHansen]

Emmisons go ny what year the motor is in the car. If i put and ls1 in my 69 i have to pass emissons for that year ls1 but if i put my pontiac 350 in my 98 i wont have to pass emissons. As long as the engine is the same make as the car is is legal

Not sure that is true in NJ. It is in Cali. Except the "pontiac 350 in my 98" part.

[SteveR]

I can understand the emissions thing, but not having wiring or brake lights in a car that you want to drive on the street is silly. Not just because every cop that ever gets behind you will pull you over, but because thats a safety issue. You cant get mad about it, just get it street legal.

[79CamaroDiva]

if you read further down, he meant reverse lights, not brake lights.

[NastyEllEssWon]

nj emissions standards says the motor has to be of same year or newer to be eligible for emissions. however, you have an 84 which the gen 1 small block v8s were still used...which would make any small block chevy eligible for your year car...technically.

emissions your probably gonna have to throw some stock exhaust manifolds on and a stock exhaust system. i have a stock behind the axle muffler from my 86 sport coupe (305) that you can have if you wanna come pick it up. just pm me.

as for the reverse switch..the other guys covered that.

edit: i have a red sticker on my camaro too. never get bothered for it. i also have yet to register my daily driver (beretta) and still has connecticut sticker on it. cops generally dont bother you about the sticker unless they pull you over for something else

[SteveR]

if you read further down, he meant reverse lights, not brake lights.

yea I have ADD, thats a lot of words :lol:

[sweetbmxrider]

you don't need reverse lights to pass inspection. i don't know why, i don't make the rules either. fix the nitty gritty crap like the horn and whatever else so you can drive on the road, get put in a white knuckle situation, and live to tell us about it. bitchin and moanin isn't gunna finish the car. scratchin heads and turnin wrenches will. you want to drive something you can trust and not worry about. i replaced my steering wheel and broke the tab to secure the power wire for the horn. i was cut off on the parkway, bad, and couldn't do crap about it cept swerve and pray. i fixed my horn the next day. do it and do it right

[JL8Jeff]

Are reverse lights required for inspection? I don't remember at this point. But overall, you are going through what everyone has gone through when you modify a car. Don't be in a hurry to try and make it to the first event with the car. If it's not ready, take the time to fix the stuff correctly. You should have gotten a 2 week pink card with the initial registration. But it's really up to your mom if she thinks it's safe to drive or not. I wouldn't even try going through inspection with skinny's up front, that will just make them look for other problems. Check all the lights, blinkers, horn, wipers, etc. to make sure most of the stuff is working. If the emission's are off, you can probably do some tweaking or buy some of the additive(which I would definitely try to begin with) to help pass. It might even be worth a couple of extra bucks to take the car to a local garage and have them check the emission's to see how close you are. If you're way off, then you need to do something to get it closer to pass. They will want some proof of "repair" after your initial fail so why even risk the initial fail if you're not sure where the emission's are.

[sweetbmxrider]

you, as the owner, could tune the carb. that is proof enough for a repair. you should get the car to pass emissions. you do not need reverse lights for inspection

[NastyEllEssWon]

you, as the owner, could tune the carb. that is proof enough for a repair. you should get the car to pass emissions. you do not need reverse lights for inspection

unfortunately it doesnt work like that. if you fail for emissions, next time you go to get retested theyre going to scrutinize you even harder and make sure that the repairs youve done are actually repairs and not quick fix it to get it pass type deal. usually they would like to see some reciepts for parts if you do the work yourself. most likely once you fail for emissions your kinda screwed with the hard stick.

i drive with a rejected sticker. never got problems with it before :rofl:

[88IrocVert]

Your parents are just looking out for you. A failure to inspect is $150, you have the money for one when the cop with a keen eye pulls you over? I've gotten 4 of them & managed to talk myself out of another 4. Trust me they are no fun.

Burlington City got me for $230.00!!

[sweetbmxrider]

unfortunately it doesnt work like that. if you fail for emissions, next time you go to get retested theyre going to scrutinize you even harder and make sure that the repairs youve done are actually repairs and not quick fix it to get it pass type deal. usually they would like to see some reciepts for parts if you do the work yourself. most likely once you fail for emissions your kinda screwed with the hard stick.

i drive with a rejected sticker. never got problems with it before :rofl:

um...no. if your car was running rich, it would have high emissions. if you lean the carb some, your emissions will "magically" lower. therefor, you can now pass inspection. it does work like that. i don't see how they can scrutinize you more? they run the car on a dyno with an rpm gauge and an exhaust probe. unless his is old enough for an idle test. the car would sit at idle, then rev up to 3K, then back to idle. in either case, an owner can simply tune their carb and pass emissions no problem. k thanks

[NastyEllEssWon]

because once you fail for emissions your screwed. what your saying is true if its a stock camaro 305 with all the emissions equipment....once you fail for emissions theyre going to want to see paperwork and go over your car with a fine toothed comb. theyre gonna want to see egr and air injection emission garbage

[sweetbmxrider]

they will check what it failed for. thats it.

[NastyEllEssWon]

you can guarantee they will pop the hood

[NJ Torque]

No. They won't pop the hood.

My SS monte failed 2 times before it passed at the state DMV for emissions. Once I tuned the carb, failed... then came back, cleaned out the EGR, it passed... They never wanted to see where the car was worked on.

[LTb1ow]

What happens if you can't pass? Like the engine just won't clean up ?

[Jersyboyy]

My car will NEVER pass inspection. I know a friend of a friend who will help me out with that tho. Thats all matt really needs imo.

[LTb1ow]

I need friends. :(

[sweetbmxrider]

um...they have to pop the hood.

[wretched73]

I've gone to the inspection station in flemington several times and they are pretty easy going. As long as none of the computers come up red and all the little bs things are there (usually) they dont care. Like i didnt have a rear view mirror.... they didnt notice.... check engine light was on... (in my buddys explorer im borrowing).. didnt notice.... tires were BALD... didnt notice

So I'm trying to say, if your close, try there or find a place that is more flexible

[sweetbmxrider]

i think if you don't have a rearview mirror, you need two side mirrors.

[WayFast84]

Ok, so from reading everyones replies,

heres a list of **** thats the problem

1. EMISSIONS
2.HORN
3. ENGINE LIGHT(not even monitored by a computer)

My car runs really rich...

The only emissions control on the car - Cat

as for the horn, Im going to wire up a total different horn.. should cost 12 bucks...

[sweetbmxrider]

your car is pre 96- engine light doesn't matter, but you should fix it anyways

[wretched73]

i think if you don't have a rearview mirror, you need two side mirrors.

I thought that too, the very last time i went through with my camaro they failed me for it.

your car is pre 96- engine light doesn't matter, but you should fix it anyways

That was on my buddys explorer that i took through, i believe its '97-'98.

[sweetbmxrider]

oh i didn't read about the exploder. yeah that will fail. your car may not be old enough for the mirrors then. they are super easy to mount though!!

[BigAls87Z28]

I really wouldnt get too hung up on emissions at this point. Fix the horn, fix the reverse lights.
Unless you pour 5 gallons of fuel system cleaning or some other chemical agent into your engine to reduce Nox levels as well as CO and Carbon levels, you are going to fail.

Every inspection station is different. Ive been to ones where they fail you for 5/32's of tread, even if thats is plenty fine and the state limit is 2/32's, and Ive been to ones where they will pass you as long as you have visible tread blocks.

[69BirdX]

you could get it to pass emissions just will take some work. Need to know the standards for your car. Ive seen people just do it with a cat and nothing emissions wise on the car.
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[nj85z28]

Just to clarify a few things here, my SS monte just passed inspection a few weeks ago. the car had originally failed for dry rotted tires and the oil gauge wasnt working. therefore they could not run me on the dyno. emissions failed by default.

then i took it back after a little bit, with some new rubber and a fresh sending unit. the guy asked me 2 questions-
did you get new tires? yes sir.
did you fix the oil light? yes sir.

then looks at my papers, and says-
this is a v8?
Yep.

Ok then.

they never popped the hood or anything. went through all the motions of the reinspect, and i had a reverse light out and a liscence plate light out as well. the car has a TPI engine it with headers, a rust hole the size of a silver dollar and bla blah blah.
Passed no problem

Just take care of the little BS like turn signals, brake lights and headlights, the horn is an easy fix, just get one of those momentary contact switches. its like a 5 dollar fix.

My point is this- dont worry about the headache of emissions until you have to. Just take care of the silly stuff and maybe you will get lucky.

[JL8Jeff]

Just to clarify a few things here, my SS monte just passed inspection a few weeks ago. the car had originally failed for dry rotted tires and the oil gauge wasnt working. therefore they could not run me on the dyno. emissions failed by default.

then i took it back after a little bit, with some new rubber and a fresh sending unit. the guy asked me 2 questions-
did you get new tires? yes sir.
did you fix the oil light? yes sir.

then looks at my papers, and says-
this is a v8?
Yep.

Ok then.

they never popped the hood or anything. went through all the motions of the reinspect, and i had a reverse light out and a liscence plate light out as well. the car has a TPI engine it with headers, a rust hole the size of a silver dollar and bla blah blah.
Passed no problem

Just take care of the little BS like turn signals, brake lights and headlights, the horn is an easy fix, just get one of those momentary contact switches. its like a 5 dollar fix.

My point is this- dont worry about the headache of emissions until you have to. Just take care of the silly stuff and maybe you will get lucky.

You got lucky as crap that they never ran a real emission's test. I think you're required to carry the emission's test results in the car with you so if you never got a printout showing the emission's you could still get nabbed in a roadside check. Once you fail for emission's, you are supposed to show receipts for the work done to the car to get it to pass. It could be as simple as a garage "adjusted carb" or "adjusted timing" but they want proof something was done. Check engine light will throw up flags no matter what year so get that turned off. You can get it to pass emission's with some adjustments to the timing and carb. I had an old 68 SS396 conv that was built up big time and my cousin's husband worked at a garage and helped me tweak it to pass the tailpipe test and gave me a legit sticker. As soon as it passed, I readjusted the carb and timing because it would stall out constantly. Another thing with the carb cars, you can raise the idle up to a certain amount and that helps burn off emission's as well. Got to the dmv website and read up on the details to see what you need to do.

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[NastyEllEssWon]

i failed for bald tires and rear blinker out on my car. first thing they did with my vehicle was pop the hood and check underneath with a mirror. you guys sound like your getting off easy

[WayFast84]

My car stalls a lot, but it also runs real rich and smells like raw gas.. so I'm guessing if it was tuned to pass the sniffer it wouldn't.. I'm going to take my car to a garage and get it to pass the sniffer! I don't really car how much money it takes, I want to drive this car, and If I cant drive it because it wont pass, It will kill me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[nj85z28]

You got lucky as crap that they never ran a real emission's test. I think you're required to carry the emission's test results in the car with you so if you never got a printout showing the emission's you could still get nabbed in a roadside check.
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the car DID pass emissions. the second time through. my point was they never looked under the hood

[sweetbmxrider]

Just to clarify a few things here, my SS monte just passed inspection a few weeks ago. the car had originally failed for dry rotted tires and the oil gauge wasnt working. therefore they could not run me on the dyno. emissions failed by default.

then i took it back after a little bit, with some new rubber and a fresh sending unit. the guy asked me 2 questions-
did you get new tires? yes sir.
did you fix the oil light? yes sir.

then looks at my papers, and says-
this is a v8?
Yep.

Ok then.

they never popped the hood or anything. went through all the motions of the reinspect, and i had a reverse light out and a liscence plate light out as well. the car has a TPI engine it with headers, a rust hole the size of a silver dollar and bla blah blah.
Passed no problem

Just take care of the little BS like turn signals, brake lights and headlights, the horn is an easy fix, just get one of those momentary contact switches. its like a 5 dollar fix.

My point is this- dont worry about the headache of emissions until you have to. Just take care of the silly stuff and maybe you will get lucky.

you did get off easy. they need to know the displacement of the motor for the actual test. not just a v8. they also pop the hood to hook up an rpm probe. i don't know how they did the test or who but you got off very easy!

[nj85z28]

j/w why they need to hook an rpm probe up? i never saw them do that one

[The Fixer]

Matt, I'm sorry, but this whole thing makes NO sense to me. First, what would it matter if you waited until '09, so what if the car will be 25 years old? If you want to daily drive the 'Bird, you technically can't do it with QQ plates. And since you just registered the car, WHY didn't you go for the Collector Registration?? Again, technically, you can't daily drive a car with the Collector sticker either, but that's the only way you're going to get around the emissions mess you've potentially gotten into.

IMO, get the carb adjusted ASAP. If the car is running really rich as you say, you will kill the cat that's on there in short order, and then you'll have no hope of passing emissions with a dead cat. then fix the little BS stuff light the reverse lights and horn. Borrow a good set of 3rd-gen wheels so you can pass for the tires, then put the skinnies back on (why you'd want to daily drive with skinnies is beyond me too, but it's your car).

Good luck, and don't get too frustrated!

[Fleetwiz]

Matt,
Heres what I would do. First the cars been of the road for several years IIRC go over all the simple stuff, lights, wipers, horn, nuts and bolts. Lean out the carb. Make sure the car looks like its road ready, clean spotless. Ask around for some one "older" to take the car thru( no offense to anyone, but sometimes DMV (Parsons) will bust balls of 17 yo with a hot rod.)
I'm sure some on this board thats local can help you out, If not I'll do it. Go through inspection worse case you fail then take it to a shop if need be for the "fix" and the re-inspection. This way you will know exactly why you failed and exactly what needs to be done to pass. This should also satisfy the parental unit that the car is "road ready and safe.

[bubba428]

My car stalls a lot, but it also runs real rich and smells like raw gas.. so I'm guessing if it was tuned to pass the sniffer it wouldn't.. I'm going to take my car to a garage and get it to pass the sniffer! I don't really car how much money it takes, I want to drive this car, and If I cant drive it because it wont pass, It will kill me!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you need to adjust that 750 you got on there...its dumping too much gas for the motor. once you get the carb in proper tuning you should be able to get it through emissions...i mean it's an 84 for god sake, just tune the bitch.

[sweetbmxrider]

j/w why they need to hook an rpm probe up? i never saw them do that one

if your car is pre-96, they have to do a dyno test. they run the car at 15 mph for 90 seconds or less depending on the tail pipe reading. the engine must be within a specific rpm range as well to ensure an accurate reading from the tailpipe.

[V]

if your car is pre-96, they have to do a dyno test. they run the car at 15 mph for 90 seconds or less depending on the tail pipe reading. the engine must be within a specific rpm range as well to ensure an accurate reading from the tailpipe.

yup and they put a magnetic inductor pick-up on the hood/by the windsheild to read rpms. and if the test runs for the full 90 or so seconds, the car failed. if all is well, itll end with around 48-52 seconds left.

[sweetbmxrider]

actually as early as 57. sometimes that pick-up won't work and they have one that clips around a ignition wire.:shifty:

[89 Trans Am WS6]

Just to clarify a few things before this post gets indexed by google and sent away with all the other pages on the net with bad/false info.

First, the issue on lights/rear view mirror/etc. You NEED them. MVC has a simple rule they teach. It may not always be followed(Parsons..hah..), thus giving various results in different locations but its easy.. IF THE FEATURE IS ON THE CAR, IT HAS TO WORK. IE: Not all cars came from the factory with a pass side mirror, right? If thats the case, you can't fail safety for it. If the mirror was knocked off the car, you can, and should fail. Its a typical gray area in MVC law..Now if you went a bought a block off plate like a car that really didnt have a mirror on that side and installed it, they woudlnt be able to fail you. Just an example but you get the point.

Yes, registering your car should of gotten you a pink card that is good for 14 days. Failing a car gives the operator 45 days from that date to make the repairs and re-inspect. TECHNICALLY you CAN be ticketed during those 45 if a cop wanted to be a big enough dick. Remember what the name of the ticket is..."failure to inspect". Untill a certificate of approval is on your windshield(the sticker) you are not inspected. Odds of this happening are slim, but it can.


In regards to "magically lowering" emissions by tuning the carb. Yeah..kind of. The tuners here on the board will be able to remind you how emissions work. Leaning your car out hardcore is going to eventually raise the NOx value aswell. Your forgetting that. Changing to better one setting can in fact harm another. Sometimes finding that perfect value is hard, if not impossible without emission parts. If it was doable without theres a good chance we wouldnt have the parts from the factory. ;>

Re-inspection of a vehicle is only done on the areas that it initially failed for. If you failed for tires the first time, and came back knowing that your car is now running rich as hell(for whatever reason) they are only going to check the tires..that sniffer isnt going anywhere near that car.

And the reason you may have never seen a inspector hook up a tach lead is simple. You can bypass it and most guys do. ALSO parsons isnt required to do it on the state lines for the sake of speed. Also inspectors are not required to do any kind of extra work to make that tach hookup. If its some kind of newer car (which would most likely be OBD anyway) and it has some kind of crazy engine plastics that cover up the ignition wires or something, your not required to remove anything to make the hookup. Another reason for a bypass.

As far as getting a emissions waiver("Car wont clean up no matter what i do") you have to send proof to the state that you spent at least $400.00 in repairing WHAT IT FAILED FOR. Obviously you cant say i failed for tires and emissions..spend 400 on a sweet new set of Micky Ts and expect to get a waiver. They want to see receipts for emissions parts and stuff of that nature. It rarely happens. Something about the 700 cfm and the skinnies may make them think you arnt trying to hard, lol.

The biggest issue with all of this stuff is theres no easy way for most people to get information on the emissions program. What you hear from a cop, doesnt have to be true either. The problem is the police and MVC work on two different sets of rules on most things. Heres a good example that ive told other people before...As of about..6 months ago not having a front plate on your car is no longer grounds for failure. You will get an advisory for it but you will still get a sticker as long as everything else passes. Your happy because your "legal" now and pull out of the inspection station. First street you turn down a cop pulls you over and writes you for no front plate. First thing on your mind is "I JUST PASSED INSPECTION!!". Dont matter. Its still illegal. Having two different sets of "laws' really does not help any of us out, it just makes it more confusing.

Point of this rambling is to try and help you guys out and not get failed in the first place. If any of you are friends with guys that are PIFs/ERFs ask them to see the blue book. You may be suprised with what you read. Dont believe all of what you see on the net. Some of us may be better suited to just keep riding on their mongoose or GT. They dont need inspections.

Just a fun tip for some of you, it may help. A little known secret..low mileage exemptions. I know alot of us unfortunatly dont get to drive our cars as much as we want to..sometimes before we know it , the time has come to get another inspection and we barely moved the car! one thing you can look into is requesting a low mileage exemption. The inspector will never ask you if you want it, but the option is there. If the car is driven less then...umm..2500? Miles since the last inspection and you can prove it..with a bill(at a PIF) or maybe your old paperwork from the state with the odo reading, the car is exempt from dyno testing and just gets a idle test. Dont quote me on the mileage just yet tho, ill look it up and post the exact criteria. It may help some of you out or at the very least keep some fool from trashing your beauty on the dyno!

Hope this helps some of you!

OH PS! In case you dont know parsons was rewarded the new state contract so they are still going to be on board. Theres also another company...telecom or some ****** Dunno got the papers at work. Theres a seminar at the regional centers in the next month or so to go over the new emissions test program/equipment so we will see. Rumors have been flying that dynos may go the way of the dinosaur. You all will know when I do.

[sweetbmxrider]

Some of us may be better suited to just keep riding on their mongoose or GT.

you poking fun at me?

[V]

i have a schwinn super stock 1 with gt flite crank, 3 peice bars, gyro II, etc etc..

[NastyEllEssWon]

As of about..6 months ago not having a front plate on your car is no longer grounds for failure.

thats correct. i went through inspection a month or so ago without my front plate and nothing was said about it. i failed for tires and a blinker :-x. ObdII cars and newer are exempt from emissions testing and they only scan the computer to make sure emissions components are working properly.

Your information was pretty dead on except for the fact that. if you keep your motor vehicles inspection copy in your glove box the officer wont be able to ticket you if its within the 45 days dated on the motor vehicle report. Thats only if you go through a state testing facility and not a private one.

[89 Trans Am WS6]

Your information was pretty dead on except for the fact that. if you keep your motor vehicles inspection copy in your glove box the officer wont be able to ticket you if its within the 45 days dated on the motor vehicle report. Thats only if you go through a state testing facility and not a private one.


Failing at a PIF gives you 45 days to have the car reinspected aswell. You can still get a ticket for failure to inspect, even within those 45 days. All you need is one prick cop, or one you gave a hard time to after he pulled you over for something else. The point I was trying to show is the huge gray areas between MVC rules and state law that the police follow.

[79T/A]

i have a schwinn super stock 1 with gt flite crank, 3 peice bars, gyro II, etc etc..


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[BigAls87Z28]

i have a schwinn super stock 1 with gt flite crank, 3 peice bars, gyro II, etc etc..

Mine's a Sledgehammer.

"Shocks...pegs...LUCKY!"
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