King of the Road that the Z06 Isnt on...

[BigAls87Z28]

80k 540hp Mustang GT500KR vs 80k 505hp Corvette Z06

Z06 blows the doors off the "King".

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do/Drives/Comparos/articleId=131034?tid=edmunds.il.home.photopanel..1 .*

Silly Ford.

[wretched73]

thats so sweet, the ford costs like 5k more, but the vette just comes with so much more


o except a shelby stamp

[Knipps]

Lay the pedal down in the 2008 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 and you feel and hear the anger all around you. Chevy didn't have to tune the exhaust to hit your ears a certain way. This is just how a 428 V8 sounds at wide-open throttle.

Best quote in the entire article

[//<86TA>\\]

We figure it can't get any worse for the Shelby GT500KR; that is, until the $82K Mustang overheats after less than five minutes of being run near its 6,250-rpm redline in 80-degree weather. This happens twice more, and two out of the three times, the cabin also fills with gasoline fumes.

:owned:

[69BirdX]

glad that just came out. I was just talking to my buddies about how i think the new z06 is the best buy out of any performance car. Im not a real big vette fan. But my friend was fighting me trying to tell me how the new shelby is better. I think the z06 can take on the GTR. let them bring it
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[//<86TA>\\]

isnt there a youtube or something vidoe of a z06 and a gtr? and the zo6 wins? I know ive seen it

[EchoMirage]

$83K and all it can do is a 12.8? wow....7+ years of work, nearly 3 times the price, and all it can do is barely tie a bone stock LS1 with DRs. i have a feeling a similarly prepped, 7 year old f-body could out handle it too.

the article is right. all youre doing is buying the name, not the car.

[Knipps]

isnt there a youtube or something vidoe of a z06 and a gtr? and the zo6 wins? I know ive seen it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjmyt52-c8c

ask and ye shall receive

[12secondv6]

Lame stang

[DevilDougWS6]

gah..why did you have to post that youtube link? i seriously HATE the ignorance that goes around on those video comments....and i feel like i have to hunt down and kill the mother ****ing ignorant pieces of **** that ****ing post on there thinking their ALMIGHTY GTR is the best mother****ing car on the road...and they can't even afford one. hell if i had the money id buy a TWO z06s and make them way faster and better handling than the gtr.

[Frosty]

Stock for stock a GTR should be a Z06 on a road course....just because there's a few Youtube clips out there stating otherwise doesn't mean it happens across the board...

[TNTramair]

Chevrolet isn't taking many new-school shortcuts here. This Z06 has a 428-cubic-inch V8. OK, so it's the modern, fuel-injected, all-aluminum 7.0-liter LS7 V8, but this is a lot of engine to find in any mass-produced 2008 passenger car. It also has a dry-sump oil system so you know it's hard-core

well its a 427...but whos counting anyway.

they keep comparing apples and oranges...Vettes and Mustangs have never been in the same league anyway.

the whole GT-r thing.....it lost to a ZR1 Vette...not a Z06. the Zo6 actually got its ass handed to it several times across the states on road coarses. BUT, there is claim that the GT-r thats been doin so was a factory "ringer" car...so who knows what we can beleive now a days anyway.

[Frosty]

the whole GT-r thing.....it lost to a ZR1 Vette...not a Z06. the Zo6 actually got its ass handed to it several times across the states on road coarses. BUT, there is claim that the GT-r thats been doin so was a factory "ringer" car...so who knows what we can beleive now a days anyway.

I smell of a repeat thread like on tristatetuners :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[TNTramair]

I smell of a repeat thread like on tristatetuners :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:
not with me...lol...i learned my lesson. you cant argue with stupidity, no matter how right you are. i just state my peace and call it a day.

[BigAls87Z28]

GT-R is a great car, but...physics is physics.
a 3900lb AWD 480hp 2+2 coupe vs a 3132lb RWD 505hp sports car go a track...who's gunna win?

Im sure that the GT-R is a easier car to drive due to the advanced electronics to make it handle like a dream, but given similar situations, the lighter, more powerful car should win at the track every time unless the Z06 is that unsorted or the GTR has some sort of advanced anti-gravity device aboard.

[EchoMirage]

the nissan also had slicks for it ring run. its been proven they cheated

[NJSPEEDER]

The GTR, like it or not, is the upper end of the sub-100k performance market when it boils down to absolute numbers. Be it through a computer controlled attempt at the driving experience or not, the car can flat out lay down numbers.

I have seen things around with people bagging on how it launches or drives, but I put most of that to the fact that it is a very thinly veiled race car really. Most of the complaints I have seen involve what turned out to be the cars one expected weak point, the transmission. I guess all of the little pretend Mario Andretti's are being abusive right out of the box and finding their way back to dealerships well before the 500 mile recommended break in period has expired.

The Z06 defeinitely has the styling advantage and no import is going to measure up to the happy dance a V8 exhaust causes in your pants, but if you wanna play the bang for the buck performance numbers game, the GTR is at the top right now.

BTW, the GTR has to be one of the ugliest friggin cars I have ever seen. :barf:

[Frosty]

the nissan also had slicks for it ring run. its been proven they cheated

There's debate on that, they weren't full blown slicks according to a few places that discussed it, regardless there's a ton of talk that Nissan sent out a few ringers.

[BigAls87Z28]

They were R compound Bridgestone Pontenza's....
Not slicks, but sure as hell not as "road worthy" as thoes POS Goodyear F1 supercar tires are.
I wish that GM would give teh Z06 a performance package, MRC shocks, CC brakes, and Pilot Sport Cup tires..

[rscamaro73]

Mustang story - my wife's best friend....her husband bought a Shelby in PA...after it was paid off he sent it off to R.I. to get the Super Snake package ($30K by itself).....

Anyways......so he's spent all this money...car looks AWESOME in pictures....anyways, he's driving it around and the CHECK ENGINE light comes on....then seconds later the ENGINE FAILURE light is on and car shuts off....(safety feature on these things). Kenne Belle SC tune must suck, as he mentioned several other people got the kits put on and they had similar issues...I think it took him 2 tunes to get it to be able to 'drive' it w/o the CEL on....and he's STILL babying it....of course he never took it to the track and 'beat it down' like we'd do our cars (well, me more on mine....lol).

I dunno about you....but I'd take the Vette over all these others based off price per ounce of FUN....

[DevilDougWS6]

imo the vette would be way better bang for the buck.....even if you got an older z06 for 25k and modded it a little bit it would outperform the skyline....for all its worth 100k? **** that...id rather spend 30k on a car that looks and performs better, newer is not always better.

[Knipps]

imo the vette would be way better bang for the buck.....even if you got an older z06 for 25k and modded it a little bit it would outperform the skyline....for all its worth 100k? **** that...id rather spend 30k on a car that looks and performs better, newer is not always better.

That's always the argument.. you could take a Civic dump 100k into and beat both the GTR and Z06

[BigAls87Z28]

That's always the argument.. you could take a Civic dump 100k into and beat both the GTR and Z06

Last time I checked, Saturn V rockets cost a bit more then 100k.

Sure you could beat it in a drag race, but track wise? Tube RWD chassis with Civic shell over it...ok.

[DevilDougWS6]

my arguement is that you dont NEED 100k to make a car fast and handle well. you can take something older and make it way better than something new with about a tenth of the cost....its all about hype.

[Frosty]

my arguement is that you dont NEED 100k to make a car fast and handle well. you can take something older and make it way better than something new with about a tenth of the cost....its all about hype.

That's such a ricer mentality. It's more than just handling and performance. It's the name, it's the overall quality of the car, it's the WARRANTY and dealer support.

You're failing to realize that you're taking a car(whether it be a Civic, Fbody etc) that's already built and taking parts that are already made/fabricated to make it perform better.

If you're saying that you can build a car from scratch, fabricate everything yourself and have it perform better and be as nice as a ZR1 or GTR with a warranty for 1/10th of the cost then I have some beach front property in Arizona to sell you at a really good price. :)

[cdacda13]

If you're saying that you can build a car from scratch, fabricate everything yourself and have it perform better and be as nice as a ZR1 or GTR with a warranty for 1/10th of the cost then I have some beach front property in Arizona to sell you at a really good price. :)
I see what you did there.

[NJSPEEDER]

That's such a ricer mentality. It's more than just handling and performance. It's the name, it's the overall quality of the car, it's the WARRANTY and dealer support.

You're failing to realize that you're taking a car(whether it be a Civic, Fbody etc) that's already built and taking parts that are already made/fabricated to make it perform better.

If you're saying that you can build a car from scratch, fabricate everything yourself and have it perform better and be as nice as a ZR1 or GTR with a warranty for 1/10th of the cost then I have some beach front property in Arizona to sell you at a really good price. :)

I don't see the perspective as completely "ricer", I think it more illustrates the point that different people are into different things.

I am sure that if anyone on the board felt like it they could take any muscle car or import, regardless of drive configuration, and run in both straight line and road course testing right along side the Corvette, the GTR, or any other top on vehicle. The dividing line is merely the check book required.

Warranties are nice, but many of us could really care less because we rarely leave a car alone for long anyway. I know people who have voided warranties on brand new cars with in an hour of picking them up.

I would really prefer a classic muscle car's styling over the late models. At the same time, I would love to have the loot to make an early 2nd gen bird handle and accelerate like a C6 Z06. It is taste, not hate.

[Frosty]

But to say the cars are just hype because someone can make "x" car faster is very much a ricer mentality. It's easy to throw $$$ at a car to make it perform but if you're buying a ZR1, GTR or hell even a base C6 it's not all about performance. If that was the case we'd all be driving clapped out Hon-duh civics with $20K dumped into saying the cars mentioned above are all junk.

So is a clapped out 11 second Civic nicer than a nicely done 2nd gen or a C6? Of course not because not everything is about performance. My buddy has the same mentality, his Z28 is a raging POS, he dumped gobs of $$$ into the drivetrain and that's it. It's multicolored, has power nothing, no AC, no interior AT ALL, no radio, manual steering, TH400 with 4.56 gears etc. He used to bust my balls because he took down my LS1 Z and my 'vette saying LS1's are overrated blah blah blah. At the end of the day I could drive my car anywhere, use the AC, listen to music, had 4 gears in my trans and didn't get 8MPG. So is my car better than his? That's objective, however it's sad that a 150 shot of giggle gas would put my car near his "race" car on the track.

Different strokes for different folks I guess.

[ShadowHawk]

What's Ford gonna do when the ZR1 comes out??:shock: Can you say "buh bye"?:rofl:

Even the GT is going to be dust unless they step up.

On a side note has anyone seen anything on this new "launch control" setup on the GTR? It supposedly takes all the guess work and traction issues out of a dig. I'm half and half on it. It's pretty badass but it kinda takes the fun out of it. Could you consider it cheating?:wink:

[Frosty]

Dude the GT is dust with the current Z06, to hell with the ZR1 :rofl:

The launch control stuff is cool, there's A LOT of technology that went into the GTR, not really my thing but it's a cool car regardless.

[ShadowHawk]

Dude the GT is dust with the current Z06, to hell with the ZR1 :rofl:

The launch control stuff is cool, there's A LOT of technology that went into the GTR, not really my thing but it's a cool car regardless.

I agree, kinda too much out of my control. I was never a fan of drive-by-wire type dealy's. Takes the human error and fun element out. How can you learn yourself how to drive it the car does all the work?

I actually saw one in person on RT 1 right near me. Some yuppy scumbag driving like a total a$$hat. If there weren't traffic I'd have taken a crack at him with my car just to see what I could do against one.

[NJSPEEDER]

But to say the cars are just hype because someone can make "x" car faster is very much a ricer mentality. It's easy to throw $$$ at a car to make it perform but if you're buying a ZR1, GTR or hell even a base C6 it's not all about performance. If that was the case we'd all be driving clapped out Hon-duh civics with $20K dumped into saying the cars mentioned above are all junk.

So is a clapped out 11 second Civic nicer than a nicely done 2nd gen or a C6? Of course not because not everything is about performance. My buddy has the same mentality, his Z28 is a raging POS, he dumped gobs of $$$ into the drivetrain and that's it. It's multicolored, has power nothing, no AC, no interior AT ALL, no radio, manual steering, TH400 with 4.56 gears etc. He used to bust my balls because he took down my LS1 Z and my 'vette saying LS1's are overrated blah blah blah. At the end of the day I could drive my car anywhere, use the AC, listen to music, had 4 gears in my trans and didn't get 8MPG. So is my car better than his? That's objective, however it's sad that a 150 shot of giggle gas would put my car near his "race" car on the track.

Different strokes for different folks I guess.

What I think you are missing is that not every car that people would like to upgrade goes the route of the tin-can turd with a fart cannon muffler. If you gave me the $60+k difference between what I paid for my car and a new Z06 I am confident I can put together a car that matches the performance and in many ways the subjective appearance advantages of the late models.

At the end of the day you can only spend the money you have to achieve the performance level you want. Since not everyone has the coin to plunk down on a Z06 or all the latest, shiny, internet hero go fast parts, they will pursue more economical routes than you may have chosen.

[Frosty]

..and that's fine Tim...hell I'd be driving a C6 right now if I had the coin. However, to say the newer cars are nothing but hype because you take a different CHEAPER car and make is faster is ridiculous.

Once I spray the piss out of the 'vette does that make my C5 is something special and C6's junk or "hype"? Of course not.

[BigAls87Z28]

ZR1 also has a launch control. Once the car detects that you are in a drag race, (that you are raising RPM's but holding onto the brake) the magnetic shocks put 100% of its force downwards to keep the wheels planted and allows you to take off like a bat out of hell.

[EchoMirage]

Dude the GT is dust with the current Z06, to hell with the ZR1 :rofl:

The launch control stuff is cool, there's A LOT of technology that went into the GTR, not really my thing but it's a cool car regardless.

not to mention using the GTRs launch control will void its much heralded warrenty.

[V]

you could take a Civic dump 100k into and beat both the GTR and Z06

....interesting...

[cdacda13]

You guys are missing the point of owning extremely expensive cars. Its the prestige associated with them. Sure, you could make an f-body, G-body, A-body, or any kind of kind stupid fast with tons of money. But being able to say that you drive a GTR or a ZR1 makes people think differently of you.
Also, they make your penis bigger.

[DevilDougWS6]

..and that's fine Tim...hell I'd be driving a C6 right now if I had the coin. However, to say the newer cars are nothing but hype because you take a different CHEAPER car and make is faster is ridiculous.

Once I spray the piss out of the 'vette does that make my C5 is something special and C6's junk or "hype"? Of course not.

i never stated anything was junk. i dont have a "ricer" mentality because I like building things and making them better than a big mass producing company can. its called my own warranty :mrgreen: everyone has lost what a ricer really is, aimlessly throughing that term around is pretty ignorant. ricer mentality is more like: "hey they make hondas run 10s with a fart can, giant spoiler, and NAWWZZZ!"

and i think there is a bit more prestige in saying "i bought that 69 camaro in a junk yard with no motor or interior, now its beautful, runs 10.80s, and only cost me $20,000 to put together."

over saying
"yeah i paid $100,000 for this car that is ugly as sin but its a SKYLINE! GTR TYPE S!!!! DAWG!"

and i simply stated it was MY OPINION. hell if i had a money tree in my backyard Id buy a new vette or something...but today's society, IMO, doesn't give a **** about you, or me, everyone cares about themselves...you shouldn't even give a **** what other people think of you. people think that daddy bought my car and that "I think im hot ****" because I have a half decent car and am trying to prove something to people....thats complete crap! I bought the car with money I saved while working my ass off. And the only reason I bought it is because I love the way it looks, sounds, runs, etc. not to go driving around town saying "hey! look at me! Ive got money!"

we got more important things to worry about than that dumbass rich guys that spent all his money on a car.

[EchoMirage]

.. you could take a Civic dump

nuff said

[Frosty]

i never stated anything was junk. i dont have a "ricer" mentality because I like building things and making them better than a big mass producing company can. its called my own warranty :mrgreen: everyone has lost what a ricer really is, aimlessly throughing that term around is pretty ignorant. ricer mentality is more like: "hey they make hondas run 10s with a fart can, giant spoiler, and NAWWZZZ!"

and i think there is a bit more prestige in saying "i bought that 69 camaro in a junk yard with no motor or interior, now its beautful, runs 10.80s, and only cost me $20,000 to put together."

over saying
"yeah i paid $100,000 for this car that is ugly as sin but its a SKYLINE! GTR TYPE S!!!! DAWG!"

and i simply stated it was MY OPINION. hell if i had a money tree in my backyard Id buy a new vette or something...but today's society, IMO, doesn't give a **** about you, or me, everyone cares about themselves...you shouldn't even give a **** what other people think of you. people think that daddy bought my car and that "I think im hot ****" because I have a half decent car and am trying to prove something to people....thats complete crap! I bought the car with money I saved while working my ass off. And the only reason I bought it is because I love the way it looks, sounds, runs, etc. not to go driving around town saying "hey! look at me! Ive got money!"

we got more important things to worry about than that dumbass rich guys that spent all his money on a car.

Wow, you went off in like 5 different directions in that post :rofl: I was simply stating my opinion too. You said cars like the GTR and ZR1 are nothing but hype because you can build something faster for a tenth of the cost. That IS a ricer mentality because some of the kids that do have fast Hon-duhs and such think suddenly because they threw $$ at a car it's "better" than something that costs much more $$$. Tell me where I'm wrong?

I think everyone here(or almost everyone here) would love to take any Fbody and build it into their dream but suddenly a well built factory super car is hype? Please. More technology and R&D went into those cars than you could EVER build yourself.

Again, it's easy to take $40-60K and dump it into a car to make it beat a super car, but like I said you're taking an already built car, using already made parts and slapping something together. Just my opinion.

[DevilDougWS6]

Wow, you went off in like 5 different directions in that post :rofl: I was simply stating my opinion too. You said cars like the GTR and ZR1 are nothing but hype because you can build something faster for a tenth of the cost. That IS a ricer mentality because some of the kids that do have fast Hon-duhs and such think suddenly because they threw $$ at a car it's "better" than something that costs much more $$$. Tell me where I'm wrong?

I think everyone here(or almost everyone here) would love to take any Fbody and build it into their dream but suddenly a well built factory super car is hype? Please. More technology and R&D went into those cars than you could EVER build yourself.

Again, it's easy to take $40-60K and dump it into a car to make it beat a super car, but like I said you're taking an already built car, using already made parts and slapping something together. Just my opinion.

i never said anything about throwing money at cars, i mean do like REAL gearheads do and do the research, find out what makes the car tick and build it from there. and no **** i could never do all tha research by myself, you obviously think im ignorant so **** off. I am not a little stupid child ricer boy like those kids you see hanging out at white castle.

and its called having the feeling of making something your own, you can say "I built it!" proudly. not throw **** together and hope it works. jeez. and most new cars are all hype, just look at the challenger, and the camaro! how long do you think the sales will be up with those? same goes for the higher end cars. our economy is so poor right now, buying super cool expensive cars should be the last thing on everybodies mind.

i may be wrong about the gtr and zr1 being hype...but who is really going to be able to afford those? a few people....gah i ****ing hate arguing on the internet its so gay. scared little kids hdie behind their keyboard on the internet. im done with this conversation. if you still think you are right then you are just ignorant. and if you think im a ricer because i like to build **** myself then you have some mental issues. that was my point all along. i RESPECT the R&D that went into these vehicles, but in the end none of that matters if you cant afford it, nor drive it.

[Frosty]

Dude, relax, we're having a discussion, holy Christ. I'd say the same thing to you in person, if you feel insulted by my words then grow some thicker skin or something. I never cursed at you, I just said what you said is a ricer mentality.

..and what the hell does the economy have to do with this discussion? LOL

[DevilDougWS6]

no, if i felt insulted id be at your door right now with my fist in your mouth. i just hate ignorant people that need to get their facts straight, but wont.

[Frosty]

LOL what? Whatever man, I guess you can take someone disagreeing with you :confused:

I'm not the ignorant one who said the ZR1 and GTR are hype cars, both of which would smack our cars silly in every possible way...but I'm the ignorant one. :rofl:

We'll just agree to disagree, it's the internet, not need to get all bent out of shape and no need to act all big tough.

[JerzyIroc]

no, if i felt insulted id be at your door right now with my fist in your mouth.

dude.... seriously..


Anyway, what ive always loved about the american muscle cars and the sports cars is they've remained driver cars while everyone else has made robots. i mean ya fine the GTR is nasty but look at all the electronics the thing has. Same can be said about the other more expensive exotics. Critics always talk crap on the american sports car but at the end of the day its taking all that electronic crapolla to barely beat a car like the viper(non acr) or a vette which doesnt have all that electronic bs. I think id feel better knowing i just cut a nasty time at the track because well im just a nasty driver in a nasty car rather than having a computer make me look better than i really do.

[WildBillyT]

Hype cars is ridiculous. They aren't hype at all. They do what they are designed to do. Perform well.

They are not, and will not be special to me, probably ever. They look nice and the numbers are impressive. These days any ******* with a half decent credit rating can head on down to the dealership to make payments on one. There's no real exclusiveness to either model.

That's why I usually appreciate home built cars a lot more than I do off-the-showroom floor performers. I can appreciate the hard work more than the ownership itself.

And Doug,

Take it easy. No reason to get so fired up.

[DevilDougWS6]

who's fired up? i only stated a what-if situation...im not angry.

[Tsar]

Am I on time for the new village idiot break in!? :mrgreen:

Next ricer argument: I can buy a bike which will beat your car for the fraction of the cost, and only four cylinders and great gas economy!

[DevilDougWS6]

not even close to the same class as cars

[Tsar]

You are not too bright, are you?

[BigAls87Z28]

Aaaaaaaaaaaand lock.

Point stands. You are as fast as your paycheck and your balls will let you.

[DevilDougWS6]

You are not too bright, are you?

bikes have nothing to do with this discussion, i know you are trying to insult me with that ricer qoute you just made up, but you are comparing apples to oranges there, so its not really a good insult. I might be offended if i was stupid. but you dont know me. so ill let that one slide.

[Tsar]

bikes have nothing to do with this discussion, i know you are trying to insult me with that ricer qoute you just made up, but you are comparing apples to oranges there, so its not really a good insult. I might be offended if i was stupid. but you dont know me. so ill let that one slide.
Using the same argument that kids on HondaTech use is pretty weak... And they do not think they are stupid for using it either. :shrug:

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Nismo tuned GTR at Island tonight ran an 11.6......at least that's what it said on it.

[DevilDougWS6]

Using the same argument that kids on HondaTech use is pretty weak... And they do not think they are stupid for using it either. :shrug:

i didnt know they used that argument! wow! thank you for enlightening me, you learn something everyday. is it not true though? should i be mad if you throw all these insults at me? if i call you a faggot are you going to get mad? because if you do get mad then it must be true.

BTW: sorry Al for hijacking your thread, im done trying to be a tough guy on the internet.

[BigAls87Z28]

Its ok Doug.
What did we learn in this thread?
Well, we learned that the GT500KR is just another big let down from the Speshal Vehicles Team over at Ford. We learned that the Corvette Z06 is one of the best bang for the buck cars out there. We also learned that the GTR is a fanboy car, and while no media or any other public testing has done to prove that a bone stock GTR is faster then a Z06 around the track.
But all that doesnt matter if you dont like modern cars and like to build things yourself. While the fight for home built vs factory made will be a fight that has gone on for half a century, and will go on till man no longer needs a car to traverse across small to great distances. We know that the people who build the car will probably get just as much enjoyment out of it, if not more, then someone who can go in and purchase a modern super car, but purchasing said car comes with millions of dollars of super intelligent R&D from engineers that have more time behind a race car then all of us on this site put together. And they put this package together for you with a warranty and the ability to drive it normally every day, without problems.

Im glad we all learned from this thread.

[Tsar]

i didnt know they used that argument! wow! thank you for enlightening me, you learn something everyday. is it not true though? should i be mad if you throw all these insults at me? if i call you a faggot are you going to get mad? because if you do get mad then it must be true.

BTW: sorry Al for hijacking your thread, im done trying to be a tough guy on the internet.
1. I do not get offended at things that people say over the internet, so call me what you want.
2. Everyone knows the ricer argument, there's no need to back pedal newb. Just quit yapping, and all will be fine.
3. Good call on stopping w/ e-toughness.

/off topic

[NastyEllEssWon]

bikes have nothing to do with this discussion, i know you are trying to insult me with that ricer qoute you just made up, but you are comparing apples to oranges there, so its not really a good insult. I might be offended if i was stupid. but you dont know me. so ill let that one slide.

actually if you really must know, his comment was the same exact comment you made. he took your opinion, threw it away as not valid and offered a cheaper solution. sure he compared apples to oranges but you compared your apples to their bannanas. lets take a look.


Buying a 100k dollar car gets you performance but also a few more things...

1. Awesome looks. You can hate the gtr but i like it, dont care for the c6
fixed headlights.

2. Ride Quality. You can build a 10 second car for cheap but i bet its loud
obnoxious and probably had lots of fumes, whereas the z06/gtr will
perform how you want without a horrible ride (to the everyday person)

3. Dont have to run around trying to find someone to pass your 10 second car
through inspection.

4. Vehicle is stock and dont have to worry about cops trying to give you
extra tickets.

5. Creature comforts. 4 adults can comfortably sit in a gtr 4 door, two in a
vette. how many people can you fit i the back of your 10 second car
after half of it is a roll cage. does your car have gps....onstar ( rocks)
hookups for your mp3 player? leather seats?? power adjustable seats?
heat/ac anything? didnt think so

6. Vehicle is brand new, which means no shakes, rattles or bumps. i bet your
10 second built car rides like a school bus. Also your the ONLY one that
has driven that vehicle. feels good.

7. these vehicles are configured to last in the stock configuration. how long
do you think a fully built n20 motor is going to last?


those are the reasons that people buy these cars. also i hear gas mileage is pretty decent on these cars too. but thats another topic.