Cops

[bubba428]

ok I just want to get a general idea of who has what feelings and the general public perception of our police. quick explanation for you OPINION...no "90% of the 50% of the" BS...just your opinion.

Please keep it clean, no insulting, no crap, just your vote and a quick why. I hope most of us are mature enough for that.

Personally I like them. In my line of work they are invaluable to my personal safety. I have gotten pulled over by ever cop in my local police force...twice, not that I'm bragging about my car being a target, but considering the attention factor and the amount of times i got out of tickets just by being civil. I can't complain

[ar0ck]

Most of the cops I have encountered in the past 5 out of my 6 years of driving have been relatively young and pretty cool. If you show them respect they will return the favor most of the time.

I've managed to talk myself out of A LOT of tickets by just being polite & honest.

[Mike]

pretty obvious

[bubba428]

pretty obvious

I put that there just for you...

[Mike]

slo86 don't vote without posting why

[91DropTop]

My encounters with police have been pleasant, if your getting pulled over its for a reason just admit your wrong suck up your pride and 9 times out of 10 the cop will cut you a break, they are doing just their job

[bubba428]

slo86 don't vote without posting why

please do not vote without posting a reason...as long as its not an ignorant insult you won't be attacked...if it is you have no business voting in the 1st place

[LTb1ow]

I have gotten out of more tickets and other nonsense by just showing the cop some respect and making him understand that you aren't an *******.

[98CamaroSS]

I have 3 family members who are LEO's so I vote yes. :nod:

[ins0mnia24]

I voted Yes because I never got a ticket I didnt actually deserve,Then again I also didnt get as bad of a ticket as I should have received.
But I also got out of a whole hell of alot of tickets that I actually deserved too..
Only had trouble with one and that was in Mullica township since having a license and after a phone call to the Atlantic County crime and corruption office and opening a Harassment investigation on him my tickets were dropped..

[bubba428]

so far it seems the general consensus is benign towards police. seems to be a silent majority type situation.

[Mike]

so far both that posted no didn't post why

[Fire_Chicken92]

bayonne has a lot of problems with dirty cops. and they are kind of intimidating, even if im not doing something wrong i kinda worry theyll think im "suspicious. So my vote is no and it isnt anything persona about cops =)

[firehawk1120]

As people they may be ok, but when doing their so called JOB, I'm not a fan of most of them.

Ex. 1 17 years old driving down the shore absolutely not driving like a jackass only had a v6 maro at the time. cop pulled me over for spinning my tires onto 35 N which didn't happen. Gave me attitude, and partner gave my friend in passenger seat attitude. They seemed to have a predetermined agenda to SHOW ME WHO WAS BOSS.

Ex. 2 Driving home at night in the rain, friend in car, attempting to make a right hand turn before noticing the road was blocked for construction. Unable to stop car and hit car crossing over street in front of me. Cops arrived 20 min later and issue me a ticket for running a red light. Wasn't what happened. GO to court Judge turns back on me and tells stenographer to wake him if he falls asleep. Father there as witness to judges antics. I had no fair trial so add judges to list of not liked people

Ex. 3 cell phone law, they will pull you over, but I see them driving on their cell phones all the time.

Ex. 4. L.E. plates. I can't tell you how many times I'm driving around and some douche is up my ass and when they pass I see they have L.E. plates. I guess they don't have to obey the law even when off duty.

Ex. 5. Brotherhood, they do what ever they want other cops won't ticket them. Laws should be applied evenly across the board.

Ex. 6 In college driving with tinted windows grand prix 98 new, get pulled over harassed about why someone from Essex Co. is so far from home. I guess it's bad I'm going to college away from home jealous I guess. Amazingly enough 2 days later same cop pulls me over for same thing. Even more amazing bmws, mercedez, lexus cars with limo tint he didn't pull any of them over and they passed him just before I did.

I have only had 1 good experience with a local cop but that was because I had a PBA card and ex. 5 played in my favor. other wise I probably would have been arrested for drag racing.

Can't say I have had enough good experiences to respect them for the job they do, but I give them credit when it comes to doing the job they were meant to do like catching real criminals. Drunk drivers, killers, rapists. I think they are more for raising money for the towns then actually keeping us safe.

[Mike]

you do realize the "L.E." plates are available to anyone through the dmv right?

[bubba428]

you do realize the "L.E." plates are available to anyone through the dmv right?

its a $50 donation or something like that right?

[ins0mnia24]

Ex. 3 cell phone law, they will pull you over, but I see them driving on their cell phones all the time.


Not to flame you but good because I hate that Crap.
I believe they are always on their phones because most cops use the Nextel thingy now instead of the radio..

[bubba428]

Not to flame you but good because I hate that Crap.
I believe they are always on their phones because most cops use the Nextel thingy now instead of the radio..

BINGO!!!!!!!! ACPD uses Nextels and radio...the nextels are more for calling in info so it can be heard more clearly or talking to a higher up in private....Although I have seen cops texting

[Mike]

yeah Hamilton pd uses nextel style radios that can receive calls from other officers/the station so they can have private conversations that stay off scanners

and yes bubba its a 50 dollar donation to the families of fallen officers

[ins0mnia24]

Hey I am 100% for the Nextel stuff because most people have scanners in their houses and listen anyways..

[firehawk1120]

Well i thought is was like an M.D. plate you could only get one if you were one or family member. so take that off my list then. I still have plenty of reason to distrust / dislike cops.

as for the nextel excuse, I'm not buying it. These guys are laughing and carrying on I don't think it's job related.

[Mike]

there is a plate through the pba and fop that is member only, but it doesn't say LE on it

[bubba428]

there is a plate through the pba and fop that is member only, but it doesn't say LE on it

the PBA ones have the little badge symbol, 2 letters and 4 numbers right? we tend to leave them be at work. LEs get taken unless they have FOP or PBA stickers

[tastyle88]

voted yes got lots of freinds who are officers, plus without police we would be a VERY corrupt world. ive been screwed over many times NOT doing stupid crap,but like any job u have your good days and bad,then u have bad cops that make good cops look bad. noones perfect!! just my 2 cents...

[Ian]

I like them. even though I've had my share of run in's with jerk cops, I know they are just doing their job. I have bad days sometimes too so you cant fault them for that.

[69BirdX]

My dads a retired cop and i know alot of older ones. I do think alot of the young ones can be arrogant but they have to deal with a lot of arrogant people. So I understand where they are comming from. For the most part if your getting a ticket you derserve it. I drive like a normal human being 95% of the time. If im getting a ticket for sommething stupid im gonna be strait up honest and take it like a man. To many kids cry about being idiots and feel like they were being harrased but you have to see where they cop is comming from before any judgments can be made.
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[Rich189]

I am one... but its like any other job a few are arrogent pricks.... but almost all are good guys that just want to do their jobs and go home.. i see quite a few go above and beyond to help others out as well

[CamaroGirlie]

Well my fiance is trying to become a New York City Police officer and his father is a Hamilton Police detective and I have only gotten one ticket and that was for doing 120 in a 55. And I had both and FOP card and a PBA card but I knew I was DEFFINATELY in the wrong so I didn't even bother using either of them. My dad (a laywer) was able to talk the prosecuter into lowering the ticket to a 55 in a 35. $80 fine no points. The other times I got pulled over :4 for speeding, 1 for running a red light (which didn't happen) and 1 for no inspection sticker. All of which I received no tickets and my PBA card was taken from me twice. All in all.....cops arnt tooo bad...in my opinion.

[V]

I have many friends who are in law enforcement... local police, troopers, corrections FBI, and so forth, and as many know i myself am in the military. I have the utmost respect for cops. Treat them with respect and theyll treat you the same. Its not like they made up the laws they enforce, so dont blame them if you break a law and get caught. Be a man(or woman) and accept it. If you think the police are "the man" you need help.

[Frosty]

I don't mind them provided they're respectful. I've had run ins with a few jerk offs but that doesn't ruin it for the general cop population. I did have one lie big time which got me in some trouble but there's nothing I can do about it now. Overall I like them, they're there to do a job.

[WildBillyT]

I've dealt with both prick cops and really nice ones. All in all most were decent and just doing their jobs.

There are ******** in almost any profession from how I see it. You get jerkoff contractors who will rip off a grandma, bitter and lazy teachers who are mean to their kids for no reason, arrogant businessmen who think the world revolves around them, etc.

[Untamed]

I've worked as a Probation Officer and a Corrections Officer, graduated with a Criminology degree, have several Law Enforcement and Corrections friends and relatives, and enjoy the relative protection each one of them offers. I am happy to contribute to the PBA, chat with on- and off-duty Officers just for the sake of it, and have encouraged my kids to respect and support what they do and represent. As a result my oldest daughter wants to go to one of those kids police camps next summer. She wasn't old enough this past summer.

Yep, like cops, will continue to do so.

[firehawk1120]

Curious as to how many people either aren't voting or are voting yes just to avoid getting looked down upon.

[Mike]

its also interesting that people posting both good and bad experiences with LEO's are mainly posting about automotive situations. we are a small community on this forum and most (dont want to make up any numbers) of us seem to be lucky enough to not need the police for anything more serious in life. i remember when i was younger and my house got broken into, it was very comforting having a policeman come over, clear the home and stay for over an hour while my parents were figuring out what was gone.

it was also a very good experience when my motorcycle got stolen, even in the middle of shift change they were able to send a RETURNING car, on the way in from their shift to my house so i could be on time to work (before i was in my current job, so no strings were pulled)

i don't wish these things, or anything worse involving criminals and their property or friends and family, but it would be interesting to see how quickly someones opinion changed when faced with a real dilemma other than some tickets and arrogant prick patrolman

[bubba428]

well you can see who voted...it is a public poll

[Mike]

i spend 60-80 hours a week with the biggest pieces of **** mercer county has to offer, so yes it skews my view of LEO's. but like i said in the other thread, i see and hear about corrupt **** going on all the time, from people sleeping with inmates, to bringing in cell phones, to brutality. there are some people in corrections, and in street police forces that aren't anything but inmates in blue. BUT that is the minority, most officers want to do their job, help who they can, and get home to their family without being killed

[Frosty]

Mike, mine wasn't a vehicle situation.

However, I'm still glad cops are around if/when I need them.

[Mike]

sorry frosty, like i said i don't wish the **** i see on anyone on this site

[Frosty]

It happens, I helped put myself in the situation but he was out to make an example out of someone...the ****er lied through his ****ing teeth(sorry for the language).

Oh well, live and learn...nothing can be done about it now.

At least the honest ones are there when you need them. :)

[JL8Jeff]

I've never had any problems. If you act like a normal person and respect the police you receive the same treatment from them. If you become combative or argue then you will be treated differently. Most people who complain seem to have something illegal or wrong with their vehicle and get defensive about it.

[Slow96LT1]

*EDITED* You could have just said "NO" and given examples but you don't know how to act mature.

-Bad64

[SteveR]

I think that that's a gross generalization. Everybody's and individual. There are people that are a-holes that choose to become cops, there are also great people that choose to become cops. I've met both. Law enforcement is an important job, and I'm thankful people choose that line of work. I just wish you could smack the jackass ones in the head.

[The Fixer]

its also interesting that people posting both good and bad experiences with LEO's are mainly posting about automotive situations. we are a small community on this forum and most (dont want to make up any numbers) of us seem to be lucky enough to not need the police for anything more serious in life. i remember when i was younger and my house got broken into, it was very comforting having a policeman come over, clear the home and stay for over an hour while my parents were figuring out what was gone.


I agree, the few times (thank God) we've needed police assistance, they were there right away and VERY helpful, whether it was the time my daughter choked when she was 8 days old and almost passed out, or the time we were in a bad wreck and the car was totalled. Scary stuff, and I felt much better having them around.

As for automotive "issues" with the law, I've been pulled over 8 or 9 times and come away with tickets 4 times. I won't lie, the PBA cards definitely came in handy a few times (my brother in law is a Corrections Officer, and my best friend is a cop in Hopatcong), and one other time I didn't get a ticket is because they were looking for some other asshat with the same car as me. Again, it's been said numerous times, and I'll say it again. Don't act like a jerk to the officer if you get pulled over, and things will usually work out in your favor.

I know there are a few bad cops out there, but I hope that most of them are on the right side of the law and do the right thing when they need to.

[WildBillyT]

i say no cause all cop are dirty and think they are better then u and they try to talk down to u

Wow. That's a hell of a strong statement to make.

[Rich189]

i say no cause all cop are dirty and think they are better then u and they try to talk down to u

You my friend are a tard and probably an ******* on top of it and then wonder why cops are dicks to you...mike already said it all i guess i dont need to say anything else

[2RARE84s]

I voted Neutral because although I have had a couple of instances where I didn't deserve the treatment I received from a police officer, I also have been given citations in situations where I did deserve it. All in all, I think that Police men/women are appreciated when we need them, but forgotten when things are going right and there is no real need for their help...:|

[Tru2Chevy]

I voted Yes. I have friends who are cops, grew up with a cop for a next door neighbor, and have dealt with cops for both automotive offenses and other issues several times. I've only ever had one bad experience with an officer (not automotive related), and that got taken care of by a lawyer who's a friend of my family's at no cost to me. He walked into court, told the prosecutor what happened, and they dropped the charge on the spot.

As far as automotive issues go, I've been pulled over at least 7 or 8 times, and have only received a few tickets. Only one of those was actually for the offense I was pulled over for (speeding that time - and the cop reduced my speed on the ticket). The rest of the tickets were just $54 slaps on the wrist. I even managed to get pulled over once for speeding (75 in a 55), and had an expired inspection sticker (more than a year overdue), and my registration had expired a few days earlier (I just forgot to renew it). The cop let me go, and just told me that he would be checking to see if my registration was renewed by the following night.

I consider myself lucky to some extent, but I'm always polite and respectful when I get pulled over. Never been pulled over for something I didn't do, so I have no one to blame but myself.

- Justin

[Lt1_8U]

i like cops, right now i'm going to school to become one. If your a ****head to a cop he's going to be a ****head right back. If you show a cop respect he will be respectful right back(as alex was saying) If your not driving like a **** then a cop will probably not pull you over. I had a 1969 nova, primer black, loud exhaust, rusty and failed for inspection. I got pulled over one time for it because i did not stop fully at a stop sign. i showed respect to the cop and he showed it back and he didnt give me a ticket or anything and he did not even mention the failed inspection.

[BurninrubberGT]

state and county cops im fine with, never had a problem with them....i hate local cops, and i know a ton of adults in my area that hate them too

if you have connections in police, you can get away with **** easily...its bull ****

[V]

it seems those that get pulled over alot are the ones that dislike cops.
But hell, ive probably been pulled over more than anyone here, 150+ times(~65 tickets), plus years back i wasnt the best behaved. Numerous arrest warrants, jv weapons charges, evading police... the cops even knew where i hung out so theyd just come to pick me up when a new warrant was put on their desk. Even back then i respected them still. Mainly because of one cop i met then, he actually talked to us when we were 16/17 and gave us the lowdown. We used to all hang out in a parking lot at nights, cops tried kicking us out but we'd always come back. Finally they accepted it, as long as we behaved for the most part, in the end it was a compromise. Even when the cops told me there was a "hit" on me one night and i asked them what theyd do about it, they replied with, "we'll have extra officers on duty, dont be in town though" well, yea, that wasnt an answer i liked, but it got taken care of(thanks to a county wide APB, lol)

my point is, your veiw of cops i think has more to do with the impression of cops put on you when you are younger and how your community veiws cops. They get a stereotype placed upon them before a person can even form their own opinion.

..and as a side note, now i'll admit, i DO expect preferred treatment from police nowadays. I am putting my life on the line, yes i know i volunterred, but still. A few miles over, tinted windows, loud exhaust... thats stuff i dont worry about anymore and so far when i have been stopped, i havent had any issues. but again, im not being stupid(like 127mph again with a cop behind me) or disrespectful.

[heavy_chevy29]

im pretty neutral about cops. my brother is a cop in the city and i do respect him for what he does. its the six figure meter maids on a power trip that i dont like. its safe to say that about 99% of the cops i delt with were the biggest douchebags on the planet at first, but once they realize that im not an ******* they change their attitude pretty quick. if i get pulled over, i dont feed them some ******** story. i just cooperate with them. because bottom line is, wether you like them or not, they are doing their job and its their word against yours. i just dont like their tuff guy attitude they get when they first talk to you, and they always seem to talk down to you. but at the same time i can understand why they do this. they deal with so many ******** on a daily basis that they pretty much have to deal with everyone like an ******* at first. so i cant really say i like them or i hate them, but i can say that we do need them.

[LTb1ow]

i say no cause all cop are dirty and think they are better then u and they try to talk down to u


Good luck with that outlook on things, is big brother out to get you too?

[bad64chevelle]

If you cannot act mature please do not add crap to this thread. Original poster asked to keep it mature.

[chemicalstylez]

I'm in the middle. (would of been a no, but i'm friends with over 10 cops and legal officials now)

I'm friendly everytime I get stopped, and I tell them off the bat what I did was wrong....they encouter liars and bull****ters all the time; this I understand. Only twice I have run into complete dirtbags, and I've been stopped ALOT(both times not in my trans am go figure). My Westville stop made me go to school to be one, 5 classes and hopefully I get sponsored in the academy. Its my goal to be the complete opposite of the Westville prick.

[Frosty]

Westville cops=teh suck. So do a lot of Brooklawn cops.

<--------grew up in Mt. Ephraim ;)

[chemicalstylez]

Westville cops=teh suck. So do a lot of Brooklawn cops.

<--------grew up in Mt. Ephraim ;)

Yea...this one Brooklawn cop knows I go through the circle to go to AC Expressway. Pulls me over everytime hes there and gives me a no plate ticket. heh.

[ap2000z28]

I voted yes. I am currently finishing up with my degree in hopes of being a full time LEO, currently I am a part time SLEO II. I have had many encounters with the police, some good some bad. When I had a bad encounter I always told myself when I become a LEO I am not going to act like that officer. For the most part if you are respectful and don't give the officer a hard time they will respect you. They are there to do a job just like everyone else and go home at the end of the shift.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

I've done some pretty stupid stuff, never been caught so I can't really say. My only time that I had a run in with a cop I was when I had my old Oldsmobile Cutlass Supreme...My dad and I were just going to breakfast after dropping off my brother at a friends house. About to pull from a sidestreet to the main road, a cop comes flying down the road, points at me, holds up his hand to stop me, then comes in, whips a 180 and pulls up behind me. He comes up to the window and asks where I came from. I told him the street name, and story, He then leans in to examine me for the truth, sees my dad, calms down and asks if he can examine the car for damage (apparently a red Oldsmobile had hit a mailbox and was throwing stuff at houses). He comes back, says I'm very sorry for the inconvenience and says have a nice day. At first I was like WTF, does he really think that my dad and I go out smashing mailboxes for fun? Looking back, I would've done the same thing had I been in his shoes. So while limited, I have nothing against cops.

[xrelapse13]

i voted neutral. I've had both good experiences and bad experiences. In the bad ones the cops see a teenager and just automatically assume your a complete juvenile *******/delinquent. I'm always respectful to cops cause i understand that their job is hard enough as it is, but when you get one that is an ass to you just cause you're a teenager it doesnt help the overall image. I've had one cop go out of his way to help me out but most have been douchebags. They see an 18 year old behind the wheel of a trans am and automatically stereotype 7 shades of **** out of you. I know that not all of them are like that and dont generalize so I'm not sayiing i dont like cops and im not gonna say i do, it depends upon the individual

[BonzoHansen]

It's like racism; experiences with one or two individuals can (incorrectly) cloud one's opinion for the whole group. Cops are no different from anyone else - there are good ones and bad ones, nice ones and pricks. I'm a big fan of LEO when I need one, I'll tell you that.

[NJSPEEDER]

I have had my fair share of run in with the law. Sometimes while driving, some times while jsut minding my own, and some times while perusing some manner of youthful stupidity.

I have only had 2 bad experiences in all of my years that I would call negative.
1: Once I had the joy of of sitting on the side of the road after being pulled over, I was going a bit fast for the area, and then sitting there while my car was searched and my ID was checked by no less than 5 cops. It was a joy to get out of class on time and getting to work an hour late without even getting a ticket. They were all very courteous, but honestly, how many times does a guy need to answer "What is your full name?", "Do you have an older brother?", "You know your haircut is a lot different in this picture?" blah blah blah blah. It was like they had a damn script, same questions, using the same words over and over again.

2: This is a story that I don't have space to type in detail. Basically I got pulled over, after I had parked, for "pulling away from a light awefully hard" in a dead stock 91 RS w/LO3. The cop then made the mortal error of asking me how much my car "cost mommy" when it was my name on the registration and insurance. The cop was a tool, I scolded him in public after he asked the question and told me he could make up whatever he wanted and put it on a ticket. After my stop at 7-11, where I was parked when I got "pulled over", I went straight to the police station with his name and badge number and filed an official complaint.

Every other time I can think of either the cop was super cool or I got exactly what I deserved for whatever I was doing.

I would say that the coolest cop I have had major interaction with was when my Alero got totaled. Cop knew I got rocked pretty good in the accident, never let me stop talking, never let me walk around, asked if I was ok about a million times, and made sure the ambulance was called and I got to the hospital ok.

Yes, I know there are cops out there who are a-holes and just trying to make up for whatver locker they got stuffed in as a kid, but I believe that 99% of them get into the job for the right reasons and try their best every day. It has to be tough to try to protect a society that is so openly over run by crooks and stupidity and not lose faith.

Thank you and God bless to those who protect and serve.

-Tim

[firebirdat]

I voted yes, but i live in Vernon and the cops here are hypocrites, but i got pulled over by a state trooper and i just told them the truth that yea i was talking on the cell phone and speeding. They let me go without a ticket and they told my dad, so i took most of the punishment from my dad.

but vernon cops(not all of them) are complete jerks. they have the beleif that they are above everyone. One of their kids got caught drinking at a school event and nothing happened to this kid. Theres a bunch of reasons i have for not liking vernon cops, but overall the i like cops, don't really have a problem with them even when they follow me in w/e car im in(lol sure they may target me because i drive a mustang or F-body, but im not doing anything wrong so i have nothing to worry about:moon:)

[baddest434]

i love cops! sat. nights 8pm on fox:mrgreen:

i treat cops with respect even if i did nothing wrong. they are just doing their job. i love how people trash on cops but they won't hesitate to call them when they need them!!! people bitch about getting pulled over for no reason at all. but how do you know that a car/person fitting your description was'nt involved in something and the cops are just making sure it was'nt you.

i will say that there are some prick cops out there. but don't ask for trouble and it won't find you.

[GP99GT]

Ive never really had a big problem with them, if youre respectful to them they usually give it right back. Only one time i really had a problem with one was when i was pulled over for having no front plate....he literally was coming up behind me straddling the double yellow lines, all lights on, and siren too. on a 35mph residential area road. going at least 50+, for absolutely no reason. then he asked..."your car is a little loud, whats up with that?" in a bright blue foxbody mustang....HMMMMMMM

[cdacda13]

Like every other profession, there are good ones and there are bad ones.

[CamaroGirlie]

Well besides automobile incidents, I have encountered police in these other spots: when my dad tried killing my mom, my brothers bike got stolen, I witnessed an accident, a girl was raped on my front yard, everytime I go to the gym at the police station, the neighbors were shooting fireworks at my house, hit and runs in my driveway, a guy tried running me off the road, etc.....the only time I had a problem with a cop was when they took over 30 mins to get to my house when my mom was being strangled. Other then that, cops are great.

[bubba428]

holy ****.....

[Knipps]

holy ****.....

you can say that again. :shock: holy ****

[SteveR]

Well besides automobile incidents, I have encountered police in these other spots: when my dad tried killing my mom, my brothers bike got stolen, I witnessed an accident, a girl was raped on my front yard, everytime I go to the gym at the police station, the neighbors were shooting fireworks at my house, hit and runs in my driveway, a guy tried running me off the road, etc.....the only time I had a problem with a cop was when they took over 30 mins to get to my house when my mom was being strangled. Other then that, cops are great.

where the hell do you live?

[WildBillyT]

where the hell do you live?

And why haven't you moved??

[Mike]

hamilton

[bubba428]

And why haven't you moved??

good question? I wanna know how you can strangle somebody for 30min and be unsuccessful?

[CamaroGirlie]

good question? I wanna know how you can strangle somebody for 30min and be unsuccessful?

I walked in on my dad strangling my mom and I tried pulling him of her and after I called the cops, it took them 30 mins to get there....but my dad got away with it cuz he's a lawyer....and yea I live in Hamilton.....1 min from trenton..

[bubba428]

o0o...wow

[madness410]

i dont really want to post my story online but i had an instance where a police officer literally changed my life. he actually made me steer in the direction of law enforcement for my future career, to actually try to help other people like he helped me. he also made me realize on my own the path i was choosing at that time was the wrong way to go, after that i ended up getting better grades and stopping all the stupid stuff. he really helped me out and i dont even know if he knows it..

yeah, ive ran into some real jerk officers but honestly, they are human and allowed to have bad days too, and some people are just a-holes but thats life. but bottom line, they do their job and protect us, and today they may be writing you a ticket, and the next day taking a bullet for you, or pulling you out of a burning car.

to all LEO on here thank you for doing the jobs that you do

[Savage_Messiah]

I only voted yes because Mike said he'd break my kneecaps if I didn't......










:lol:

[DevilDougWS6]

I voted yes. I was in the Toms River Police Explorer program for about 5 years (when i was younger) and did a lot of cool stuff with them. I know a lot of local cops and MOST are cool. ALL are respectful if you respect them right back. A lot of the younger rookies are a little arrogant and think they are the top cop but are still learning. I have seen what they have to put up with and I think that everyone should have the chance to see it as well, and they would feel very different about police officers.

Yeah, they will bust you for stupid crap like talking on the phone, but that law is dumb anyway, it should only apply to people that can't multitask. all officers have to be able to drive, type, talk on the radio etc. at the same time lol. and they dont get paid **** compared to easier jobs. and to whoever said "six figure meter maids" that is one of the most ignorant statements next to "all cops are dirty" they might make $28k a year if they have been doing it for a long time.

I have always had good experiences with cops and have gotten out of a lot of tickets just by being polite. atleast an excess of 25+ mph over and the cop let me off with a no seatbelt ticket (50 bucks and no points?) even though I ALWAYS wear it i have a clean driving record he let me off easy.

I have to admit family members and even military get off easy sometimes, (my ID has gotten me out of tickets before) BUT again the violation was "serious" by law standards, but in reality they were not that serious. Most laws are money makers for the state, so they dont have to raise taxes, which in a sense is good but somewhat BS....so I cant complain. just dont be a dick to them, dont drive like an ******* every where you go, and you will be fine.

I don't understand all these "tough" "gangster" kids that hate on the police because they think its cool or something. Gangs are cowards any way when they pick on one person or outnumber 2 or 3 people just so they have the upper hand. everyone is tough when they are with a big group of people. but can't fight for **** on their own. What they don't realize is that if the police didn't exist, they would probably not be alive, because their parents wouldnt even be alive, because their grandparents would have been killed by a robber that could do anything because who is going to stop him? and that nice car you got? yeah who is going to help you when that gets stolen? go ahead and try to find it yourself.....

One time i was pulled over the cop asked me for my credentials, handed him DL, Military ID, ins. card, regs.....he looks at it, hands it back says have a good night and walks away. I was so confused...he followed me pretty far too before pulling me over, he actually got up next to me then dropped back behind me. he didnt tell me what i did wrong, didnt ask me where i was going nothing! lol it was odd but w/e.

[shane27]

i realize they have a job to do but most of them are sneaky ******* hypocrites

[Icemansghost]

I'm neutral for having met both good and bad cops..

[Knipps]

One time i was pulled over the cop asked me for my credentials, handed him DL, Military ID, ins. card, regs.....he looks at it, hands it back says have a good night and walks away. I was so confused...he followed me pretty far too before pulling me over, he actually got up next to me then dropped back behind me. he didnt tell me what i did wrong, didnt ask me where i was going nothing! lol it was odd but w/e.

that's most likely why.

I voted neutral as I've had good/bad experiences.

[DevilDougWS6]

that's most likely why.

I voted neutral as I've had good/bad experiences.

yeah..more than likely....but you gotta admit. alot of things that you get pulled over for should not even be a big deal at all.

[redbanditZ28]

I voted no. I realize they are just doing their job, but I have had way too many bad experiences with police officers not doing their job right. And you don't have to be a police officer to understand the wrong things I've witnessed.

1. They are never around when you need them (in my experience at least). My house got paintballed and a punk kid spray painted the back of my garage, and the officer didn't come until an hour after the fact. On top of that, the police in my town rarely if at all patrol. It is a small town I live in and I never see them parked anywhere or driving around when the kids get out of school. I also got stuck on 287 twice in my friend's car and any other time the state troopers are driving up and down 287, but a cop car didn't show up until after the tow truck was already there and even then, he acted mean and rushed us to get the car off the road when the truck was clearly loading my friend's car up.

2. I had a bad scenario where I got pulled over for doing the speed limit in So. Bound Brook. Apparently me driving with the windshield wipers on when it was misting out at 12:30 AM and doing 25 in a 25 zone was seen as conspicuous. I was coming home late at night from work and it was a long day and the officer pulls me over for impeding traffic. Bare in mind there is no one on the street at all except me and the cop car. Even then, I was not impeding the speed limit when he said he clocked me as doing 25 in a 25. Insert foot in mouth for him. He then accussed me of drinking because my eyelids looked heavy and I was slightly tearing from being tired from not getting any sleep the night before and working a double shift as I explained to the officer. I gave the officer attitude because he started accusing me after I told him what I told him, and I completly disagreed with him as to why he pulled me over. I even asked him point blank "Are you accusing me of something?" I let that be known to him in a serious voice. Unlike what everyone else thinks, he actually didn't give me attitude back. He ran my license and just said have a good night. One for me, zero for the cop who is ticket hungry. Bare in mind, I take pride in the fact that I never speed when I drive and also that I don't drink alcohol or do any drugs at all. The cop was trying to do nothing more than to give the only car going by (me) a ticket for something and he didn't have squat to get me on and I called him on it. Doing nothing more than wasting my time.

Never get intimidated by the cop. All you have to do is ask for their badge number (assuming you did nothing wrong like me) and they realize they are in serious trouble for doing something that they shouldn't have done to a pedestrian. There is also the media if you feel that you have been wronged. That rarely happens though.

3. Lastly, I stopped to check on two cars in a fender bender on 287 and to see if both drivers were okay. They were and exchanged info. The lady who got hit from behind drives off and the guy that hit her is left talking to me. A plain white unmarked Dodge Durango pulls and starts beeping the horn at us. This SUV has no identifying police decals or anything on it. It looked like some random white Durango. I don't really pay attention to what the guy is beeping at and the guy I am talking to does a hand motion like "hold on a sec" or "it's okay, move on". Neither of us realize it is an unmarked police car. The less than intelligent state trooper doesn't put on the lights or sound the signal and is behind tinted windows. He also waits for about 3 mins before he gets himself out of his SUV to come up and talk to us. He yells at the guy who hit the girl with his car for not acknowledging him. The trooper acted very cruel and stupid in this situation. He gave no indication that he was a trooper until he stepped out of his car, and by that time, he was already mad for the guy I was talking to for not acknowleding him. He then yells at the poor old guy to move his car off the road ASAP. If he never got out of his White Durango, neither of us would have never known he was a state trooper at all. Thats what you get for having an unmarked, tinted window vehicle and not getting hitting the sirens or flashing the lights.

4. I am at a German festival in Chester and as my family and I are walking around, we see this old couple. A husband is trying to get his wife to wake up and he is shaking her and her body is limp. She isn't responding and the husband is yelling for help and random people at the festival are just passing by and doing nothing. It was surreal. So I act quickly and run to a police officer patrolling the event telling him that an old lady either fainted or isn't responding. First he doesn't even acknowledge me and is talking to a guy he knows, while I am standing there and he knows I am trying to talk to him. Second, I tell him what I saw and I tried showing him where the couple was and he continues to talk to his friend for like a 1 min afterwards and then he slowly walks behind me following me to the old couple. He didn't perform CPR or anything and just tried yelling at the lady to wake her up. The guy was useless. He acted like he didn't even care. I mean if that was one of my family members, I would have had a field day reporting this guy for not doing his job. Fortunately, the rescue squad got there and eventually woke her up.

It is true that there are good and bad cops, but their sense of duty often clouds their judgment and actions. And like someone else said, I feel that police should get in as much trouble for doing things wrong as pedestrians do. I almost feel they should get even a harsher penalty because they are the authoritative figures on upholding the law and they should know better than an average pedestrian. I often see cop cars making illegal u-turns or doing something illegal and they aren't responding to a call either when doing the things. I mean I am like you guys. I have friends that are cops, but the job gets to their head too much at times depending on the person. But these are just my personal experiences. To each his or her own. In my experiences, their motto isn't to serve and protect, its to annoy and harass. I respect them for putting their lives on the line and my response doesn't go for all cops everywhere, but there are some bad ones within NJ. But I always tell my friends that are police officers to keep safe out there.

[lastcall190]

Most of the cops I have encountered in the past 5 out of my 6 years of driving have been relatively young and pretty cool. If you show them respect they will return the favor most of the time.

I've managed to talk myself out of A LOT of tickets by just being polite & honest.

Bingo +1000000

[79CamaroDiva]

I've only gotten one COMPLETELY BS ticket in my life, and don't judge all officers by the one ass i've met. It was around 11pm one night in Lodi, I was making a right turn that was at a light but the right turn lane had a yield, and there was a dip in the road, so my lights went down. Next thing I know the cherries go on behind me and I'm like wtf? I pull over, he comes up and asked me why I flashed the oncoming car? I was completely dumbfounded and just gave him a blank stare and then said "huh?" It was one of those moments when I was expecting something completely different; maybe a tail light out, going 2 over the speed limit, loud exhaust, SOMETHING. He repeated himself and I said I didn't. He goes "I saw you," I said "Officer, really, I didn't. There's a dip there, maybe you saw my lights go down there, I don't know." Then he proceeded to tell me that there were so many violations on my car that he could write me up for and I told him everything on it was 50 state legal. I handed him one of my PBA cards, but at the time didn't know that the guy who's card I had was Bergen Co Sheriffs Dept, I thoguht he was Clifton, so when he called in, it was wrong.

The cop gave me an obstruction of vision ticket for my HS tassle hanging in the rear view mirror. I'm dead serious.

Other than that, I've never gotten a ticket I didn't deserve, like someone else said. I've met my share of pricks on a power trip, but I appreciate the nice ones, and I'm glad that they are a visible force.

[bubba428]

this thread is chock full o long posts....

[jts98z28]

im pretty neutral...the cop at my H.S. is the coolest guy ever, last year i fought sum kid outside of school and video taped it and showed ppl,, and the cop didnt get me in any trouble in/out of school. and he told me 1 day that i should put my seat belt on cause he saw me drivin without it, but he didnt write me a ticket of anything...but theres sum cops that are just dicks, its just their personality though,like they were ******* b4 they became a cop

[Knipps]

Never get intimidated by the cop. All you have to do is ask for their badge number (assuming you did nothing wrong like me) and they realize they are in serious trouble for doing something that they shouldn't have done to a pedestrian. There is also the media if you feel that you have been wronged. That rarely happens though.

If you're driving a car, you're not a pedestrian.

[redbanditZ28]

If you're driving a car, you're not a pedestrian.

I meant citizen or civilians. I couldn't think of the words when I was posting that.

Either way, you get my point.

[Blacdout96]

Neutral cause ive had both worlds upon me. some are nice, some take their job too seriously, and some are dicks or sneak ****s.

[SupermanX24]

i'm neutral. Yes, we need police to keep the idiots out of our streets and we need them to protect and serve. But I have friends that are cops, and they say that there's alot of cops out there that get their jollys off giving out BS tickets and what not.

[01blackz28]

50:50 Therefore neutral. Some arrogant pricks. Some pretty cool guys

[79T/A]

Wow! Been off the forum for a bit due to work and I'm impressed with the four pages this thread has gotten.

I've been a police officer for eight years now and despite what I see every day, I still enjoy my job. I've wanted to be a cop since I was very young because my dad was a cop. He retired recently and could not wait to do so because the world is a completely different place than it was in the late 70s when he first got on the job. Back then, it was cops and robbers, good guys and bad guys, no in between.

The police officer of today has to deal with a lot of different issues. We are expected to be counselors, mediators, fixers of everyone's problems. We have to think before we do anything, from a simple traffic stop to whether or not to stop and frisk someone on the street. The words 'reasonable suspicion' and 'probable cause' are at the front of our brains, and the fact that everyone in this day and age has a camera phone sometimes makes us hesitate (Which can get us killed).

Here's a story for some of you who don't understand what we go through. I swear this really happened.

I showed up for work one day in a sour mood (And I take pride in the fact that I have never taken a bad day out on the public). Wasn't feeling my best. I went to fetch a cup of coffee and a woman recognized me and said, "Do you remember me?" I told her I didn't. She went on to explain that a year or two before, I had shown up at her home when her child was having a seizure. It turned out to be related to a fever and I was able to calm the parents until the ambulance arrived. Anyway, while I didn't think I really did anything of note on that call, she went on to thank me as if I'd reached inside her kid and pulled Satan himself out of his little body. She finished by saying how much she appreciated my coworkers and I.

I left the store feeling ten feet tall and my day was instantly improved. Not even an hour later, I was dispatched to an apartment building to check a 9-1-1 hangup. I rang the doorbell. No answer. I rang another doorbell to gain entry to the building and this little old lady shuffled out and opened the door. Here's our conversation:

LADY: "What do YOU want?"
ME: "Your neighbor called 9-1-1. I need to see if they're alright."
LADY: "Why'd you ring MY bell?"
ME: "I'm sorry but they didn't answer their door."
LADY: "Well, I hope you get shot up there!"

Needless to say, I didn't get 'shot up there,' and the call turned out to be made in error, but my mood was in the toilet again. I'd managed to have one person treat me like gold and one person treat me like poo in less than an hour in the same day. This is what we signed up for, whether we like it or not. But we're human. We're people. We have a job to do. We go to work, deal with everyone's poo, get pooed on, and are expected to do it all without emotion and above all else, with professionalism.

Now, I'm not saying that's an excuse for cops to treat people like poo. But it does happen. I'm also not going to pretend that all of my brethren are angels, either. I'm not stupid enough to believe we're all perfect. Some of us are indeed criminals in uniform. I pray everyday never to become one of them.

By the way, I'm not intimidated by anyone who asks me for my name and badge number when I'm working. Sometimes, I give it before they even ask. That is because I make it a point not to say something to someone or do something to someone that I know in my heart is wrong. Am I perfect? Of course not. I try to make it a point not to treat the public like crap, even though there are many who deserve to be. For every bad cop, there are ten bad civilians. Our jails and prisons are full of "innocent" people, right Mike? (Not that I know you, but I'm sure you'll agree).

Is there a brotherhood? You're damned right there is, and I'm damned proud to be a member. Again, I won't pretend that everyone of my brothers or sisters is right every time, but I will be sure to find out the facts surrounding something before I condemn one of them.

The truth is, unless you are a cop (Or in some cases, military personnel and God bless you if you are), you don't know what we go through. You don't know the feeling of chasing someone and not knowing how it's going to turn out if you catch them. You don't know what it is to fight for your life (Okay, some of you might, but this is an occupational hazard for me). You don't know what it is to have a firearm in your hand, pointed at another human being, and having to decide whether or not to shoot and where the round is going to go if you miss in a split second (I thank God everyday I've never had to shoot anyone and pray I never do). Worst of all, you don't know what it's like to kiss your family goodbye, walk out the door, and not know whether or not you're ever going to kiss them...or even see them...again.

I'm sorry a good deal of you have had negative experiences, but I really wish folks would not just paint all of us with a broad brush. As stated by someone earlier, we are individuals and yes, some ***holes do become cops and remain ***hole cops until they retire. I'm not asking for violins, or a hug and a pat on the back. I'm just asking that before you condemn every cop because you got a traffic ticket or twelve, or because a cop didn't tousle your hair and say, "Run along, ya little scamp!" instead of locking you up, remember that we're all different and we're all human. Hate the player, not the whole team.

Me? I grew up wanting to be a cop and driving a Camaro. Did I get out of a ticket or two because of my dad's PBA card? Sure. So have a lot of people who didn't grow up to be cops. I won't pretend that I don't speed once in awhile (Although I do make it a point to pull over to talk on the phone, because I don't want to be labeled a hypocrite) or that I'm perfect, but you don't know me personally, so don't assume that just because I wear a badge for a living that I'm garbage because of what I do for a living. It's a JOB. Like most people, I do the best I can at my job because I like it, but it's much more important to me to go home at the end of my shift, be with my family and play with my toys!

Sorry for the monologue Bubba, but being who I am and doing what I do, this thread definitely hit home, especially since I freely give answers and opinions when someone posts up legal questions. I wonder what some of you would think of me if you'd met me before finding out I'm a cop? But that's kind of impossible since my Trans Am probably won't be done until I retire and I just outed myself. :wink:

Anyway, I thank all of you who have an open or neutral mind on the subject, but I don't think that anyone who said no is an ***hole, either. I don't know you well enough to judge, and if you live in my town, I'll go just as fast to help you as I would anyone else if you were in need because that's what I'm paid to do.

And no, you can't have a PBA card. I'm all out of them and don't know any of you personally.

[2RARE84s]

Well said! I am really glad I read that whole post. :nod:

[ShadowHawk]

**** DA POLICE!!!:rofl: Just kidding...please don't pull me over...again!

It depends on where you go, can't answer either way. My hometown of Edison is great, the police do their jobs and don't bother you for stupid ****. And many are car guys too, so they'll let you slide to an extent.

Seaside, Metuchen, and Woodbridge cops should be NUKED! They look for ANY/EVERY reason to give you crap! Sneaze, and they will ticket you. Take a dump, and they ticket find you. BREATHE, and they WILL ticket you!

It's my personal opinion that any cop that pulls someone over for tint/no front plate/colored marker lights/etc/etc is a total DOUCHEBAG with nothing better to do. They should worry about speeders & wreckless drivers and not petty ****.

Other than that, I have no gripe with police. Just do your job and leave me alone and we're cool.:mrgreen:

[creeper]

typically i just try to stay away from them. i don't do anything stupid so police respect me for the most part. i've heard some pretty bad stories but all the cops i've run into were pretty cool.

only time i was annoyed with a cop was when my z28 got hit. got rear ended and pushed into the truck in front of me. while filling out the report or whatever the cop came up to me and was like "soooo what happened is you hit that truck and then the other car hit you correct?" and so i was like no, that is not what happened. she hit me and pushed me into the truck. seemed like he was trying to put some of the blame on me, but it may have been an honest mistake. not sure.

another night some punks threw some eggs at my car. i hunted them down and called the police as i was chasing them. after the cops caught em they came over and were talking to us abt how fun chases are. they seemed really down to earth and you could tell they were nice guys. gained a lot of respect for them that night.

[r0nin89]

Most of the cops I have encountered in the past 5 out of my 6 years of driving have been relatively young and pretty cool. If you show them respect they will return the favor most of the time.

I've managed to talk myself out of A LOT of tickets by just being polite & honest.

After my first offense Ditto on this statement.

If you treat a cop with respect that he deserves than usually he will treat you back with gratitude for not being a dick in plain english.

[JerzyIroc]

i voted yes but i should have but Neutral. it really depends on where you are. here in jersey city the cops are pretty chill. they'll cruise next to you doing 40 in a 25 as long as everyone is going with the flow and not driving like a prick. stuff like that they'll let you go. I personally like the way the JC cops are. they have more important things to worry about. as long as you dont do anything stupid they tend to leave you alone. even in newark its the same. and even when you do get pulled over they're chill as hell. as long as you're honest and not a prick, theyll usually let you go. Often with a lesser ticket than you deserve if you even get one. However, towns like Montclair, Bayonne, nutley, and smaller towns from my personal experience, they're just bored. im convinced a lot of the cops in the smaller towns are really just bored and have nothing better to do than to find something just stupid to pull you over. ive been either pulled over, or in a car thats been pulled over for literally doing 28 in a 25 at 3 am with NOBODY else on the road in Bayonne and in Montclair. Its just rediculous. They follow you for miles just waiting for you to do the most retarded and simply insignificant vilation kown to man to just pull you over. And no matter how nice you are they're dicks. I personally know two cops in montclair and a few in JC. Im as nice as possible to cops cuz at the end of the day they are there to protect and serve so i ALWAYS give the upmost respect to cops whether they're being pricks or not. But unfortunatly not every cops is like 79t/a, an honest cop who is doing their job. A lot of times they reallyt are just ******** with a big head giving every other good cop a bad name.

[NJ346]

I voted yes because I've never had a problem with them even though everytime I leave high school my radar detector get's pinned(profiling?). Anyway, leaving work today I definitely felt like I deserved a ticked for what I did and a cop was going the other way and either didn't notice,didn't care, or realized I wasn't about to do anything else stupid. So anyway this is what I did: leaving work about 20 minutes ago I had these kids yelling "light em up", so I opened my cutout but wasn't about to do a burn out in the place i work. So anyway as I'm getting on rt. 9 I punch it, and let me say this is the first time I really thought I was going to loose the car, the ass end came out and next thing I knew I was staring at a telephone pole. With luck on my side I corrected it and next thing I knew, there was a cop passing me going the other way. I was having a pretty bad day so I was pretty sure I was getting a ticket. Anyway I just wanted to share my story and btw, my uncle is a retired irvington cop so I have a lot of respect for what they do.