View Full Version : what do you think of this hood?
WayFast84
10-09-2008, 09:58 AM
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HardcoreZ28
10-09-2008, 10:11 AM
Personally I don't like it. It kills the body lines of the car and obstructs your view from inside the car.
WayFast84
10-09-2008, 10:39 AM
Personally I don't like it. It kills the body lines of the car and obstructs your view from inside the car.
Do you have any suggestions for another hood? I need the hood for clearance..
WildBillyT
10-09-2008, 10:46 AM
I don't think it's too bad. It might look a lot better with paint. I tried to look up some alternatives for you but it looks like the popular/affordable hoods are either cowl or 4th gen ram air style- not too much else.
bandit88
10-09-2008, 11:05 AM
i think it sits too high
here's a 2.5 how it looks
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i9/transamgodess83/nov07photomeet/2770093320053772090bXTVMh_fs.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i9/transamgodess83/nov07photomeet/2027114970053772090qMdIPr_fs-1.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i9/transamgodess83/nov07photomeet/2274342780053772090VqqYhm_fs.jpg
Keep in mind you cannot even see the top of the pass. side light when its on...... with these hoods you gain an extra blindspot
Fire_Chicken92
10-09-2008, 11:07 AM
I'm not feeling the cowl hood on it, but if you need the clearance def go for the 2.5 over the one you showed, it looks better in my opinion.
NJSPEEDER
10-09-2008, 12:00 PM
I think it is the ground effects that make the difference. Without them the hood doesn't really look right.
ar0ck
10-09-2008, 12:04 PM
Ram Air I hood without ground effects, 2.5 Cowl w/ ground effects.
KirkEvil
10-09-2008, 02:18 PM
Lower cowl looks better
98Gsxr750
10-09-2008, 02:26 PM
The 2.5 looks better. The other one looks out of place.
chrisfrom nj
10-09-2008, 02:48 PM
pick it up matt
I also like the 2.5 better.
JW :D
sweetbmxrider
10-09-2008, 05:57 PM
2.5 inch looks great. the other is too tall to for the width.
WayFast84
10-09-2008, 10:17 PM
the bird is going to get 1990+ bumpers with out ground effects and I am still undecided on the hood. Ill need the hood pretty soon though..
Ram Air I hood without ground effects, 2.5 Cowl w/ ground effects.
Why are you buying a hood for a car that doesn't run?
its called looking for a part..
and i just need a pushrod, a rocker arm stud, and a poly lock and the car can be put back together, so it might not run, but it only needs a couple bucks and an hour and its back up...
WayFast84
10-09-2008, 10:18 PM
what brand is that 2.5? harwood?
NJ Torque
10-10-2008, 01:05 AM
get the smaller cowl.
bandit88
10-10-2008, 03:46 AM
what brand is that 2.5? harwood?
yup
mc73nova
10-10-2008, 08:20 AM
The 2.5" looks better, the front of the scoop has a more natural flow. I have always gone with harwood hoods. Make sure you get the hood springs too. Harwood also sells them. Good Luck.
madness410
10-10-2008, 02:10 PM
takes away alot of the lines of your car. go with a smaller cowl or maybe try some ground effects?
rbaksi
10-13-2008, 05:55 PM
The smaller cowl is much better definitely.
Teds89IROC
10-13-2008, 09:47 PM
smaller cowl
camaroracer1992
10-13-2008, 10:27 PM
im not a fan of cowl's on firebirds, thats like putting a ram air scooped hood on a camaro, just doesnt look right. Thats my opinion though.
Blacdout96
10-17-2008, 03:55 AM
No offense to anyone on here, but IMO, the cowl hood has been played out so much anymore, its a boring design to me anymore. On some cars it looks ok, but unless its being functional, to most cars ( Mustangs, Camaro, Firebirds) it kills the lines, especially on 4th gen where the lines are more rounded and smoothed over. Now to 3rd gen firebirds, if your going with the 90+ front end, it would look fugly with a cowl hood, and buying that ram air style is even worse, I think those hoods have no place on a 3rd gen, and more so on Camaro's. If you really want to go out Mr. Money bags ( I say this cause your doing all this work on the car, and changing the front end to a 90+, when you could of just bought a 90+ Firebird and been done with it a long time ago) I would suggest building your own hood, make it unique, so when you pull into a car meet or show, instead of people saying oh, another cowl hood, you hear, wow look at that Firebird! Don't know how to build one or where to begine, look at other cars, look at their hoods, their designs, and get a general feeling for what might actually look good, and have a few people help you on teh build who have experiance with fabricating with metal/ wood/ fiberglass. You'd be amazed at how easy it is to construct your own hood.
that was a long post........his air cleaner dosent fit under his stock hood, half the people that posted said the cowl looks out of place, but again, his setup dosent fit under his stock hood
bandit88
10-17-2008, 06:33 AM
No offense to anyone on here, but IMO, the cowl hood has been played out so much anymore, its a boring design to me anymore. On some cars it looks ok, but unless its being functional, to most cars ( Mustangs, Camaro, Firebirds) it kills the lines, especially on 4th gen where the lines are more rounded and smoothed over. Now to 3rd gen firebirds, if your going with the 90+ front end, it would look fugly with a cowl hood, and buying that ram air style is even worse, I think those hoods have no place on a 3rd gen, and more so on Camaro's. If you really want to go out Mr. Money bags ( I say this cause your doing all this work on the car, and changing the front end to a 90+, when you could of just bought a 90+ Firebird and been done with it a long time ago) I would suggest building your own hood, make it unique, so when you pull into a car meet or show, instead of people saying oh, another cowl hood, you hear, wow look at that Firebird! Don't know how to build one or where to begine, look at other cars, look at their hoods, their designs, and get a general feeling for what might actually look good, and have a few people help you on teh build who have experiance with fabricating with metal/ wood/ fiberglass. You'd be amazed at how easy it is to construct your own hood.
listen here i love my cowl hood....... stop picxking on me :wink::rofl:
Blacdout96
10-17-2008, 07:54 AM
that was a long post........his air cleaner dosent fit under his stock hood, half the people that posted said the cowl looks out of place, but again, his setup dosent fit under his stock hood
that doesnt mean he should get a 4 inch cowl hood for it. like I said, he should find a hood thats not the norm on eBay, or on Harwoods site. make his own, or find someone that can help him make it.
i believe he settled on a 2.5 and not everyone want something crazy, original, and expensive when the normal alternative will do the job
Blacdout96
10-17-2008, 07:56 AM
listen here i love my cowl hood....... stop picxking on me :wink::rofl:
Im not picking on oyu, yours actually goes well with your car, i guess cause the GTA front end is more pleasing to the eye then that white car in the pics. But I will say your car put a curse on mine, mines not running, infact i just took the tags off to go return to the DMV later today :(
Blacdout96
10-17-2008, 07:59 AM
i believe he settled on a 2.5 and not everyone want something crazy, original, and expensive when the normal alternative will do the job
So thats it, you spend all this money on a car, and your gonna go the easy way out when you buy one of the most looked at part of the car? and thats just it, theres no original hoods for 3rd gens, they've all been around for 20+ years. plus, if he's gonna change the front and rear bumpers, why not take that extra step and make the car really unique, dont fall just short of different and original.
because to most people functional matters just a little bit more
Blacdout96
10-17-2008, 08:12 AM
But you could make it more functional when building custom. and thats like saying a cold air intake works without putting shrouds around the filter, and without wrapping the pipe ( the pip gets heat sinked, and the filter just sucks in hot air) with a cowl hood, you also need the plate to keep it from breathing in under hood heat, and to allow a smoother flow under the hood. when you see Hemi's, stage 2 olds and pontiacs and such, they have a gasket that seperates the filter from the engine bay heat, and gets more direct cold air. So unless he buys/builds that as well for his car, its not really functioning properly ;)
sooo failing to make one point you change the topic to cold air intakes?
not many people CAN build their own hood, just because you know fiberglass does not mean its a good recommendation to tell every 17 year old kid whose air cleaner wont fit to build a hood... he isnt looking to be all original, hes looking to make his **** work, and buying a hood will be cheaper than buying supplies and teaching yourself how to use them
Blacdout96
10-18-2008, 09:15 AM
because to most people functional matters just a little bit more
first off I didnt change any topic, i answered this. your saying people sometimes wants function over form, but what im saying is people buy cowl hoods, but arent functioning fully the way they were ment to perform. without something seperating the filter from the engine heat, its not functioning 100% it is ment to, thus creating a custom part or even hood to maximize the elimination of absorbing engine heat will better the performance of the hood. so end of discussion.
and FYI actually unless hes using Carbon fiber, its not that expensive compared to buyind a 300-400 dollar hood. and its not that hard to learn, thus why I said if he cant do certain things, have a friend who knows how to to help.
if he has never done it, and dosent have any friends that have, and dosent have a source for the supplies or the tools to do it, yes it is more expensive.
and i would call it VERY functional in his case since with the stock hood he COULDNT PUT AN AIR CLEANER ON THE CAR
WildBillyT
10-18-2008, 09:50 AM
first off I didnt change any topic, i answered this. your saying people sometimes wants function over form, but what im saying is people buy cowl hoods, but arent functioning fully the way they were ment to perform. without something seperating the filter from the engine heat, its not functioning 100% it is ment to, thus creating a custom part or even hood to maximize the elimination of absorbing engine heat will better the performance of the hood. so end of discussion.
and FYI actually unless hes using Carbon fiber, its not that expensive compared to buyind a 300-400 dollar hood. and its not that hard to learn, thus why I said if he cant do certain things, have a friend who knows how to to help.
Cold air is not the function in question. He needs to fit a high rise intake manifold under a hood that does not look hideous. That's the primary need. Not how to maximize power. If he wants that he can add it later with a 'turkey pan' or something like that.
And sure, he can try to make his own hood but the chance of success is pretty low (not a direct dig at you WF, plenty of people can't do this). Most people can't even attach a fiberglass scoop to a fiberglass hood and end up using pop rivets.
In this case spending the $200-300 bucks is a good idea, since building his own looks like it would be a whole bucket full of fail.
Blacdout96
10-18-2008, 12:58 PM
Cold air is not the function in question. He needs to fit a high rise intake manifold under a hood that does not look hideous. That's the primary need. Not how to maximize power. If he wants that he can add it later with a 'turkey pan' or something like that.
And sure, he can try to make his own hood but the chance of success is pretty low (not a direct dig at you WF, plenty of people can't do this). Most people can't even attach a fiberglass scoop to a fiberglass hood and end up using pop rivets.
In this case spending the $200-300 bucks is a good idea, since building his own looks like it would be a whole bucket full of fail.
Ah turkey, pan thats the name I was trying to think of. and :rofl: at the bucket of fail comment.
...im just saying for his car, it would be nice to have something other then the usual for clearance. if he wants, then go get a 2.5 cowl instead of a 4 inch cowl
WildBillyT
10-18-2008, 09:20 PM
im just saying for his car, it would be nice to have something other then the usual for clearance.
No arguement there. The shame of it is that there really isn't that much offered for a 3rd gen bird like that.
WayFast84
10-18-2008, 09:51 PM
There are no other options, Im not going to waste my time building a hood, to be different when the car is just your average firebird... I would love to have a formula hood on the car, with 90+ bumpers and a formula spoiler, but like Mike stated....
I CANT FIT THE PROPER AIR FILTER UNDERNEATH MY HOOD.
and thats with out the nitrous.
bubba428
10-19-2008, 05:33 PM
I really liked my Daytona style cowl hood....that wouldn't look to bad on a car with no GFX
WayFast84
10-19-2008, 06:24 PM
I really liked my Daytona style cowl hood....that wouldn't look to bad on a car with no GFX
Bad is an understatement. FUGLY as hell on my car...
I love the powerbuldge hood. I'm so pissed It wont work with my set up..
Bad is an understatement. FUGLY as hell on my car...
I love the powerbuldge hood. I'm so pissed It wont work with my set up..
how much clearence are you looking for?
if possible, track down and get a FUNCTIONAL puwerbuldge cowl induction hood and run like a 2" high air cleaner with a dropbase, or a base modified to clear fuel lines/linkage. The cowl induction into the top of the air cleaner would give additional air flow lost by the reduced filter height
Frosty
10-21-2008, 03:55 PM
2.5''...the 4'' doesn't look right and your car is too slow to warrant the "I have a ton of power" look.
TurboDiverArt
11-03-2008, 05:08 AM
If you need the height that that hood provides then I don't think you have too many choices. If it could be shorter and still provide the clearance I'd suggest that.
Art.
bandit88
11-03-2008, 06:59 AM
Im not picking on oyu, yours actually goes well with your car, i guess cause the GTA front end is more pleasing to the eye then that white car in the pics. But I will say your car put a curse on mine, mines not running, infact i just took the tags off to go return to the DMV later today :(
don't worry you car will be running soon cause....... .the trans is out of the CAVI!!!!!!!
i'm down a vehicle :wink:
wretched73
11-03-2008, 07:25 AM
Not a big fan of the cowl induction hood on third gen birds, no matter what size :/
//<86TA>\\
11-03-2008, 08:13 PM
Not a big fan of the cowl induction hood on third gen birds, no matter what size :/
:moon:
Im quite fond of mine actually. It follows the fender line and fits the car pretty well. Much better than all those ram airII hoods out there.
//<86TA>\\
11-03-2008, 08:18 PM
this is always an option.....
even looks similar to your car
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s209/Phil_9111/burnout1-1.jpg
TurboDiverArt
11-05-2008, 08:12 PM
this is always an option.....
even looks similar to your car
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s209/Phil_9111/burnout1-1.jpg
I vote to put a hood like the one on my 1992 (in my avatar). Not too sure the inspection guys will like it but what do they know. It only creates a "small" blind-spot of about 3 car lengths.... :wink:
thunder
03-04-2009, 09:17 AM
smaller cowl. the ground effects help too
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