View Full Version : FERARRI MAY LEAVE F1?!?!?!?!
NJSPEEDER
10-28-2008, 08:02 AM
In a response to the FIA floating the idea of another completely misguided "cost savings" plan by requiring a single engine formula, Ferrari has announced that if the rules go that way, they intend to leave.
After 58 years, the winningest team in F1 history seems to be the only one prepared to take any sort of stand against Mad Max Mosley and his completely distorted idea of what the top level of racing is supposed to be.
I have a serious issue with any sanctioning body going through the trouble of "cost saving measures" for the teams when they require a $20mill a year regitration fee for each car, not team, CAR!!! while requiring that each team field two cars, both with the same exact sponsorship. Then teams gt to pay additional fees to enter each race, each paddock pass for each member of the team, a paddock license for each traveling member of the team, and the host of other BS fees that the FIA likes to pile on.
If they want to save teams money because they fear for the smaller teams, how about making the racing more competitive so that the smaller teams have a shot at the money too. Allow single car teams and allow the existing two car teams to accept more than one primary livery for the two cars, thus introducing more opportunities for sponsorship and handing more of it to the smaller teams that struggle to put together the $300-700million dollar a year primary sponsorship deals that i takes to run a season at the back of the pack.
Spec series are fine at the lwoer ranks, they allow driver development and team evaluation outside of the realm of the haves and have nots. But for hte top level of motorsports, the most radically developed cars in the world, to turn into just another overpriced, overhyped, BS spec series, would be a tragedy of epic proportion.
Knowing the FIA, they won't give a flying ****. They will claim to have some other team lined up with the same money and somehow in their retarded little heads it will be good enough. Too bad money and ambition doesn't buy the prestige of the winningest team in the sport.
/Rant
-Tim
That's not cool. If Ferrari goes I'll stop watching F1, not that they would care about me, or anything..
BigAls87Z28
10-28-2008, 09:10 AM
Toyota will just blow more money on it.
Maybe that means that Ferrari could move its financial power to ALMS GT1. Corvette should have stayed...damn it!
Blacdout96
10-28-2008, 09:59 AM
Good, that will keep Ferrari from being so distracted from F1, that they could come back and compete in ALMS against the Audi's, Peugeot's, or the Porsche sypders and the Acura's. Ill be honest, Le Mans sucks without the two top dogs in that racing series at the front of the field, Porsche and Ferrari. And hey, who knows, maybe Mercedes will follow, and they will come back, and BMW as well!!! I can only hope since those two teams dropped out of the series after 99 when the FIA changed the rules.
Blacdout96
10-28-2008, 10:06 AM
But you really think the FIA will just let it's most highly beloved team in any automotive sport they suport to leave? this is not the first time they stepped away from F1. They did it in the late 60's when they couldnt get a decent F1 car together, and then couldnt get a 312P to work as well. they left twice in fact! But we all know how persuasive Ferrari is. that ****ign orchestrated pass at the Chinese Grand Prix, it was so obvious, the announcers were poking fun....and theres a rule against that, but Ferrari gets away with that again. Ferrari is a whiney team, who complain when they dont get there way. just like in 1964 when the Cobra Daytona coupes were about to win the championship....and some how Mr. Enzo got the organizers to cancel the race....a whole ****ing race!!! So I give Ferrari for their record and such, but stop always sayign your gonna leave this and that because you dont like something, just do it, cause im sick of them complaining. Go back and try to win Le Mans again.
NJSPEEDER
10-28-2008, 10:07 AM
I think the return of the closed cockpit rules will drive a lot of the top brands back to LeMans and world endurance racing in general. It is a formula that hangs a better face and more possibilities for street product development on the race car.
I woudl hate to see Ferrari leave simply because they are the only team that has been so consistant in pace and winning ways for so long. Even when the team was at it's worst they were finishing in 2nd and 3rd in the constructors championship. That is a hell fo a record to maintain for nearly 6 decades. I just can't imagine an F1 field without that glorious prancing horse chasing the win.
-Tim
Blacdout96
10-28-2008, 10:12 AM
I think the return of the closed cockpit rules will drive a lot of the top brands back to LeMans and world endurance racing in general. It is a formula that hangs a better face and more possibilities for street product development on the race car.
I woudl hate to see Ferrari leave simply because they are the only team that has been so consistant in pace and winning ways for so long. Even when the team was at it's worst they were finishing in 2nd and 3rd in the constructors championship. That is a hell fo a record to maintain for nearly 6 decades. I just can't imagine an F1 field without that glorious prancing horse chasing the win.
-Tim
I do agree that bringing back closed cockpits will bring back some names. Ill be honest, I would also liek to see Toyota come back or Nissan, and see if tey can finally win it after all they both supposidly spent over a couple BILLION dollars when they were racing through the 80's and 90's, and never capture the greatest race in the world. I would like to see Ferrari duke it out. And i will say that F1 would be direly bland if Ferrari left.
and they are the only consistent company to stay in F1. they've always been inhouse with their products, never needing an outside source. Its funny how back in the late 80's Mercedes was working with Sauber, and in the early 90's BMW was workign with McLaren. ( im speaking of Group C and the GT1 catagory) and now today in F1 its Sauber BMW and Mercedes McLaren lol.
BurninrubberGT
10-28-2008, 10:13 AM
if the FIA institutes standered engines the following teams WILL leave F1
Ferrari (already said they would)
Mclaren (have yet to say they would definately leave, but said they are srtongly against standered engines)
BMW (have yet to say they would definately leave, but said they are srtongly against standered engines)
Renault (have yet to say they would definately leave, but said they are srtongly against standered engines)
Honda (whats the point of being a manufacturer in a series if you dont use your own engines? bye bye)
Toyota (whats the point of being a manufacturer in a series if you dont use your own engines? bye bye)
pretty sure that would speel the end of F1, so i doubt they will have spec/standered engines
NJSPEEDER
10-28-2008, 10:17 AM
If Ferrari leaves, that means their car development leaves, what happens to Torro Rosso? Since that is basically a customer program with Ferrari leasing them engines and selling them the previous seasons outdated chassis data every year, I guess they are screwed.
-Tim
BigAls87Z28
10-28-2008, 10:22 AM
Ferrari to go back to LMP1 would be cool. Id like them to field a solid GT2 car like the 599.
SteveR
10-28-2008, 01:52 PM
Ferrari to go back to LMP1 would be cool. Id like them to field a solid GT2 car like the 599.
That would be amazing.
And what class was the Forza 2 F430 running last year?
SteveR
10-28-2008, 01:53 PM
If Ferrari leaves, that means their car development leaves, what happens to Torro Rosso? Since that is basically a customer program with Ferrari leasing them engines and selling them the previous seasons outdated chassis data every year, I guess they are screwed.
-Tim
Didn't another team announce a few weeks ago that they were switching over to Ferrari engines next year too? That would make at least three teams affected negatively by this.
NJSPEEDER
10-29-2008, 06:45 AM
That would be amazing.
And what class was the Forza 2 F430 running last year?
That is the Rissi Competition car, GT2.
Currently Ferrari and Porsche are having all the fun in GT2, but there are some cool development cars. Some mega rich nut case is even trying to make the Ford GT competitive without any factory support. lol
-Tim
BigAls87Z28
10-29-2008, 09:24 AM
Falken Tire showed us thier Ford GT car that will race GT2 for 09. It will be colored like thier drift cars.
Looks like GT2 is shaping up to be a killer series.
Blacdout96
10-29-2008, 10:23 AM
Falken Tire showed us thier Ford GT car that will race GT2 for 09. It will be colored like thier drift cars.
Looks like GT2 is shaping up to be a killer series.
I love that car, and I root for that guy. I think I saw two actually running in the series. 1 is Falken,and the other is a silver one runing around. Glad to see someone FINALLY made a racing version of the car.
NJSPEEDER
10-29-2008, 01:00 PM
That car is a joke. I am shocked that Falken, with all their money, didn't get themselves onto an established car. I believe the Corvette will continue to wear Michelins next season.
BigAls87Z28
10-29-2008, 02:53 PM
I always found it funny that the C6.R's "production" version wears Goodyears. Only the ZR1 wears Michelins.
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