tint laws

[nuttyprofessor]

Still trying to figure out why tint in NJ is illegal. the only thing I can figure is that it is a source of revenue, except for all the law enforcement officers who have dark as hell tint and get away with it.

I love having my windows dark - stops sun glare, head light glare, and allows for some decent action while even in a parking lot. I mean if someone is going to shot a cop I don't think it will matter if windows are tinted or not.

Sorry for the rant

[ar0ck]

Side windows are completely illegal, back hatch go to town.

[Tru2Chevy]

Side windows are completely illegal, back hatch go to town.

I don't think he's asking what the law is....I think he's just complaining about them....

- Justin

[Knipps]

:threadsu:

[nuttyprofessor]

just trying to see the rationale behind the law? I know there are LEO's on the site...i got on a tangent to...I apologized

[JerzyIroc]

is it ALL the windows on the side that you cant put tints or just the front windows?

[ar0ck]

is it ALL the windows on the side that you cant put tints or just the front windows?

Drivers & Passengers side windows cannot be tinted.

It is what it is, nothing will change it. Just gotta suck it up and deal.

[Knipps]

is it ALL the windows on the side that you cant put tints or just the front windows?

just the front

[Slow96LT1]

i just tinted everything including the winsheld

[Tru2Chevy]

is it ALL the windows on the side that you cant put tints or just the front windows?

You aren't allowed to tint the windshield or the front side windows. You can tint the hatch as dark as you want as long as you have both side mirrors.

- Justin

[LTb1ow]

So when a cop pulls you over, he doesn't have to worry that much about you having a gun behind the window. My take on it.

[79T/A]

Here we go again!

The statute is 39:3-75, "Safety Glass." The majority of it states that all vehicles made after 1935 MUST have safety glass or "approved safety glazing" for the purpose of safety in accidents. The very last paragraph is what people get pulled over and ticketed for:

"No person shall drive any motor vehicle equipped with safety glazing material which causes undue or unsafe distortion of visibility or equipped with unduly fractured, discolored or deteriorated safety glazing material, and the director may revoke the registration of any such vehicle."

arOck, NOWHERE in the statute does it say the the side windows and rear windows are alright to tint. If it seems too dark, the officer can stop you for it no matter where it is. It basically leaves window tinting to the discretion of the officer. If you've actually seen this in print somewhere, please let me know, I'm genuinely curious as I've heard the same thing throughout my life but never actually seen it.

There is definitely a safety issue for officers when a lot of window tinting is involved, especially at night. But that's not anywhere in the statute either.

39:3-75.1 says that tinting is allowed for medical reasons.

Hope this helps.

[ar0ck]

arOck, NOWHERE in the statute does it say the the side windows and rear windows are alright to tint. If it seems too dark, the officer can stop you for it no matter where it is. It basically leaves window tinting to the discretion of the officer. If you've actually seen this in print somewhere, please let me know, I'm genuinely curious as I've heard the same thing throughout my life but never actually seen it.



Drivers & Passengers side windows cannot be tinted.

It is what it is, nothing will change it. Just gotta suck it up and deal.

Side windows are completely illegal, back hatch go to town.

:scratch:

[Tru2Chevy]

79T/A - I've never seen the "tint the rear sides and back as dark as you want" in a law book, but that's what's listed for NJ in every tint website, and every tint discussion I've ever seen.

http://www.tintcenter.com/laws/NJ/

- Justin

[79T/A]

And until you see it in a law book, the traffic guys will keep on writing it.

[sweetbmxrider]

and it will get thrown out, every time. from behind the driver seat, you do not need windows. what difference does tint make?

until every cop car pulls the tint off, i will keep it. the whole "safety" aspect for the cop, thats just bitch. admit it. many, MANY other states allow it which have far greater incidents regarding this/similar matters on cop related injuries/deaths. its all about the money and its always been that way.

[Teds89IROC]

anything behind you is game, that's why the hatch on the iroc is 5% :fidget:

[Tru2Chevy]

And until you see it in a law book, the traffic guys will keep on writing it.

Don't get me wrong, I wasn't arguing, just stating what I have seen.

But I have never once seen a ticket for tint on rear side windows or a back window stand up in court.

- Justin

[Knipps]

arOck, NOWHERE in the statute does it say the the side windows and rear windows are alright to tint. If it seems too dark, the officer can stop you for it no matter where it is. It basically leaves window tinting to the discretion of the officer. If you've actually seen this in print somewhere, please let me know, I'm genuinely curious as I've heard the same thing throughout my life but never actually seen it.

There is definitely a safety issue for officers when a lot of window tinting is involved, especially at night. But that's not anywhere in the statute either.

39:3-75.1 says that tinting is allowed for medical reasons.

Hope this helps.


So because it doesn't say you CAN do something it means you can't?

[shane27]

:threadsu:
:stupid:

[79T/A]

So because it doesn't say you CAN do something it means you can't?


Depends of which cop writes you and what the judge decides in court. Basically, it's a big gray area. Many people just pay it because the $54 isn't worth paying hundreds or thousands in lawyer fees to fight it. All I'm saying is that while most of the time cops will ignore the tint if it doesn't cover the windshield and driver/passenger windows, that doesn't mean you won't get a ticket for it.

The only place that really clarifies circumstances where tint is allowed is the medical statute, which states that it can be used with a doctor's note for people with certain medical issues.

[sweetbmxrider]

they can't ticket you for a factory option on a motor vehicle, i'm sorry. SAE DOT approved > town statues. /end

[79T/A]

they can't ticket you for a factory option on a motor vehicle, i'm sorry. SAE DOT approved > town statues. /end


Correct. Also included in the statute is that any "safety glass" must be numbered as such. If it comes from the factory, you are okay.

[WildBillyT]

they can't ticket you for a factory option on a motor vehicle, i'm sorry. SAE DOT approved > town statues. /end

SAE DOT? Huh?

[sweetbmxrider]

SAE/DOT i don't know who approves automobile glass/tint

[jims69camaro]

you knew i'd be in here sooner or later. try this on for size:

(cliff's notes: if you don't have a medical condition requiring reduction of light, you cannot have window tint to the left and right of the driver or on the windshield.)

this first part talks about the seller of a motor vehicle equipped with tint telling the buyer what the statute is. otherwise, they can be fined by the state, as well as you getting a ticket for it.

CHAPTER 21

An Act concerning motor vehicle window tinting and supplementing P.L.1960, c.39 (C.56:8-1 et seq.).

Be It Enacted by the Senate and General Assembly of the State of New Jersey:

C.56:8-117 Motor vehicle window tinting, informing customer of State restrictions; required. 1. It shall be an unlawful practice for a person engaged in the retail sale and installation of motor vehicle window tinting materials or film to:
a. Sell any such material or film without first notifying the purchaser that the application of these materials or film to the windshield or the front windows to the left and right of the driver of any motor vehicle registered in the State is a violation of State law and regulation. The notice required under this paragraph shall be given by the conspicuous posting of a sign at the point where the window tinting materials or film are offered for sale. The sign shall state substantially the following:
"NJ STATE LAW PROHIBITS ADD-ON TINTING ON WINDSHIELDS AND FRONT SIDE WINDOWS"
The notice required under this paragraph shall not apply to catalog sales of motor vehicle tinting materials or film where the purchase and payment are made by mail, telephone or other telecommunications or electronic method; or
b. Install or apply any such material or film on or to the windshield or the windows to the left and right of the driver of any motor vehicle registered in the State unless the purchaser exhibits a certificate or card, issued pursuant to P.L.1999, c.308 (C.39:3-75.1 et seq.), authorizing the installation or application of the material or film on or to the windshield or front windows to the left and right of the driver of that car for medical reasons involving ophthalmic or dermatologic photosensitivity.

C.56:8-118 Rules, regulations; public information program.
2. The Director of the Division of Consumer Affairs in the Department of Law and Public Safety shall:
a. Pursuant to the provisions of the "Administrative Procedure Act," P.L.1968, c.410 (C.52:14B-1 et seq.), promulgate rules and regulations to effectuate the purposes of this act; and
b. Develop and undertake a public information program to inform persons engaged in the retail sale and installation of motor vehicle window tinting materials and film and the general public of the provisions of this act.

3. This act shall take effect on the first day of the fourth month following enactment.

Approved February 27, 2003.

so, when we look up C.39:3-75.1, we get:
P.L. 1999, CHAPTER 308, approved January 4, 2000Assembly, No. 670A N A CT concerning the windshields and windows of certain motor
1vehicles and supplementing chapter 3 of Title 39 of the Revised
2Statutes.
3
4B E I T E NACTED by the Senate and General Assembly of the State
5of New Jersey:
6
71. Notwithstanding the provisions of any other law to the contrary,
8the owner or lessee of a motor vehicle that is driven by or is used to
9regularly transport a person who has a medical condition involving
10ophthalmic or dermatologic photosensitivity may apply to the director
11for permission to have the windshield and windows of that vehicle
12covered by or treated with a product or material that increases its light
13reflectance or reduces its light transmittance.
14The application shall be in a form and manner prescribed by the
15director and shall include, but not be limited to, a written certification
16by a certified ophthalmologist or a physician with a plenary license to
17practice medicine and surgery in this State or a bordering state that the
18person for whom the application is submitted has a medical condition
19involving ophthalmic or dermatologic photosensitivity. For the
20purposes of this act, medical conditions involving ophthalmic or
21dermatologic photosensitivity shall include:
22a. polymorphous light eruption;
23b. persistent light reactivity;
24c. actinic reticuloid;
25d. porphyrins;
26e. solar urticaria;
27f. lupus erythematosus; and
28g. such other photosensitive disorders or conditions as the director
29shall determine.
30
312. The director, pursuant to the "Administrative Procedure Act,"
32P.L.1968, c.410 (C.52:14B-1 et seq.), shall promulgate rules and
33regulations to effectuate the purposes of this act. The rules and
34regulations shall include, but shall not be limited to:
35a. Standards and specifications governing the types of materials
36and products that may be applied to a motor vehicle windshield and
37windows under this act. These standards and specifications shall
38include the color of the materials or products, the maximum allowable
39percentage of total light reflectance of the materials or products, the
40maximum allowable percentage of the light transmittance and
41ultraviolet transmittance of the materials or products, and such other
42
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matters as the director shall deem appropriate and necessary. In
1establishing the standards and specifications, the director shall
2consider, to the greatest extent possible, the safety of law enforcement
3officers, who during the performance of their duties may find it
4necessary to inspect or otherwise observe the interior of a motor
5vehicle having a windshield and windows to which an approved
6material or product is applied.
7b. The issuance of a certificate or card to each approved applicant
8authorizing the approved covering or treatment. The certificate or
9card shall be valid for a period of not more than 48 months and shall
10be exhibited to any law enforcement officer, when so requested, and
11to a designated motor vehicle examiner whenever the motor vehicle is
12inspected.
13c. Standards and specifications governing the installation and
14application of approved materials and products, including the
15affixation of an appropriate label, in a manner and form prescribed by
16the director, on each windshield and window to which an approved
17material or product is applied. The label may identify the name and
18the location of the installer and the name of the manufacturer of the
19material or product applied.
20d. The registration of persons in the business of installing or
21applying approved materials and products, including the establishment
22of a fee to cover the costs of that registration.
23
243. a. A person who violates the provisions of subsection b. of
25section 2 of P.L. , c. (C. ) (now pending before the Legislature as
26this bill) shall be subject to a fine not exceeding $100; provided,
27however, if a person charged with such a violation can exhibit a
28certificate or card which was valid on the day he was charged to the
29judge of the municipal court before whom he is summoned to answer
30the charge, the judge may dismiss the charge. The judge, however,
31may impose court costs.
32b. A person who violates the provisions of the regulations adopted
33pursuant to subsection c. or d. of section 2 of P.L., c. (C. )
34(now pending before the Legislature as this bill) shall be subject to a
35fine not to exceed $1,000 for a first offense and not to exceed $5,000
36for a second or subsequent offense.
37
384. This act shall take effect on the first day of the13th month
39following enactment, except that section 2 shall take effect
40immediately.
41
42
43
44Permits application of certain tinting materials on motor vehicle
45windows and windshields for medical reasons.
46

so, the bottom line is that if you don't have a medical condition, certified by a doctor, of the skin or eyes where you need to have natural light reduced or you will suffer ill effects, then you cannot have tint on the front windows or on the windshield. cops will and do ticket you.

the first part basically says that the seller has to tell you about the law in NJ if the car is equipped with window tint. cops will and do ticket you.

bottom bottom line: no window tint or the cops will and do ticket you. no way out. no grandfather clause. period. end of story.

[jims69camaro]

Correct. Also included in the statute is that any "safety glass" must be numbered as such. If it comes from the factory, you are okay.

this is untrue. if the seller has the windows so tinted, they have to tell you what the statute says in NJ. it's ok in other states, because they don't forbid the windows being tinted, but in NJ they will ticket you whether it is "factory" installed or installed by your cousin willy.

[91DropTop]

long story short...get a doctors note :lol:

[Knipps]

bottom bottom line: no window tint on the windshield or front side windows or the cops will and do ticket you. no way out. no grandfather clause. period. end of story.

fixed.

Also, I'm trying to figure out what they mean by porphyrins.. they're a part of red blood cells

Edit::
Pretty sure they mean porphyria (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porphyria)

[ryanfx]

this is the worst thread ever

[sweetbmxrider]

:rofl: yeah who cares

[79T/A]

Good find, Jim. If it isn't in Title 39, most cops aren't going to know it. Thank you.

[jims69camaro]

Good find, Jim. If it isn't in Title 39, most cops aren't going to know it. Thank you.

if the law is currently enforceable, i will find it. i've got a nose for it. :rock:

and it's true that not all cops know all laws. some will write something but had meant to write something completely different. this is why we have our day in court.

[sweetbmxrider]

one cop wrote the description as unsafe glazing. i showed it to two other cops who were going to write me the same thing and they laughed.

[madness410]

i agree with u man...i got madd action in parking lots and on the road with my tints. i took them off and never got that action again..

all you people with front window tints enjoy that action..while it lasts..

[WildBillyT]

one cop wrote the description as unsafe glazing. i showed it to two other cops who were going to write me the same thing and they laughed.

Kudos to you for not dropping the obvious doughnut joke.

[Knipps]

Kudos to you for not dropping the obvious doughnut joke.

:rofl:

[sweetbmxrider]

:lol: didn't even think of that! damn!!

[Clutch Master]

we do inspections at my dealer and it says in the inspection booklet from the state that you are allowed to tint back window glass and rear windows if equipped with a 4 door vehicle, just 2 front windows and windshield are illegal to tint.

[transamkid]

well just to add to discussion and see how many ppl complain about it, my ws6 has 5%s all around

=D

[sweetbmxrider]

no one cares. i have tint on everything i own. whoopie

[transamkid]

:fidget:

theres your award for having all the tint :wink:

[sweetbmxrider]

:clap: look at em go!

[MilanR]

http://74.125.45.132/search?q=cache:QyhdJ2m9tY0J:www.njleg.state.nj.us/2002/Bills/A3000/2924_I1.PDF+nj+window+tint+laws&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us&client=firefox-a

pretty sure that's what it is right there. windshield and front sides no tint. back okay. I mean it only makes sense just look at alll the minivans with tints. As long as you have both mirrors just as tru2chevy said. You will probably get pulled over, but you can fight it at court and win. there are plenty of vehicles on the road that dont have windows in the back at all. so why would they bother other people for tinting cars that do

[sweetbmxrider]

because you could see out and the cop can't see in :lol: safety thing

[LTb1ow]

I have no back seat.

[sweetbmxrider]

i do, its just not in my car :lol:

[chevrolet02z28]

I just want to throw one question out in the crowd. IF cops are so worried about someone having a gun on the other side of the window.................. Then why do 90% of cops when they see a car with tinted windows pull around like they are in some high speed pursuit with a drug dealer and armed robber to go after a car with tinted windows? I think it is a revenue thing IMO.

Tinted windows shouldn't be an issue. Any time I have gotten pulled over with tint(5%) my windows were down before the cop got out of his car. And if night time. Light was on.

With the except of the day in WashingtonTwp when my window motor was shot. And I only got the window down a 1/4 of an inch and had to yell out my window motors busted. LMAO.... Needless to say he practicaly almost had his gun out of the holster.

[sweetbmxrider]

yeah well you are cool but some people aren't. you never know who you are stopping....

[LTb1ow]

I can ride my bike with no handle bars, no handle bars.

[Mike]

its also worth saying, since many people on this forum drag race, that full window tint is not nhra legal.........

[HeadlessNorseman]

I remember hearing a story of someone finding a dead NJ state trooper on the highway with a shotgun wound to the chest and shattered tinted glass everywhere, and that was when they did something about the tint laws, although i have no idea how true that is. I mean, cops can be ********** but nobody should ever get killed for doing their job, and if it helps at all, i dont mind one bit

[chevrolet02z28]

I remember hearing a story of someone finding a dead NJ state trooper on the highway with a shotgun wound to the chest and shattered tinted glass everywhere, and that was when they did something about the tint laws, although i have no idea how true that is. I mean, cops can be ********** but nobody should ever get killed for doing their job, and if it helps at all, i dont mind one bit

From what I have heard. Is there was actually a lady who shot and killed a state trooper. And that is when tint law went in effect. As stated above IDK if it is 100% true or not. But I have seen a pic of this women. And I believe they said she fled to somewhere in South America. Whether this is the reasoning or just another incident. I do not know.

[WildBillyT]

yeah well you are cool but some people aren't. you never know who you are stopping....

Exactly. Sounds like he is on the straight and narrow but some people aren't. Another example of many being punished by actions of a few, but that's the way it is.

[79T/A]

From what I have heard. Is there was actually a lady who shot and killed a state trooper. And that is when tint law went in effect. As stated above IDK if it is 100% true or not. But I have seen a pic of this women. And I believe they said she fled to somewhere in South America. Whether this is the reasoning or just another incident. I do not know.

Nothing to do with window tint.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/fugitives/dt/chesimard_jd.htm

[chevrolet02z28]

Nothing to do with window tint.

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/fugitives/dt/chesimard_jd.htm

A. Says she was stopped for a motor vehicle violation. Doesn't say why she was stopped and tint could have definitely been a reasoning for being pulled over..

B. I said not to quote me on it as well...... I wasn't 100% sure. That is what I heard, but if you can find the exact reasoning on it. That would be grateful.

[Stupercharged]

Here we go again!

The statute is 39:3-75, "Safety Glass." The majority of it states that all vehicles made after 1935 MUST have safety glass or "approved safety glazing" for the purpose of safety in accidents. The very last paragraph is what people get pulled over and ticketed for:

"No person shall drive any motor vehicle equipped with safety glazing material which causes undue or unsafe distortion of visibility or equipped with unduly fractured, discolored or deteriorated safety glazing material, and the director may revoke the registration of any such vehicle."

arOck, NOWHERE in the statute does it say the the side windows and rear windows are alright to tint. If it seems too dark, the officer can stop you for it no matter where it is. It basically leaves window tinting to the discretion of the officer. If you've actually seen this in print somewhere, please let me know, I'm genuinely curious as I've heard the same thing throughout my life but never actually seen it.

There is definitely a safety issue for officers when a lot of window tinting is involved, especially at night. But that's not anywhere in the statute either.

39:3-75.1 says that tinting is allowed for medical reasons.

Hope this helps.


So what do I have to do so that my doctor can proscribe me tinted windows :lol:

[79T/A]

A. Says she was stopped for a motor vehicle violation. Doesn't say why she was stopped and tint could have definitely been a reasoning for being pulled over..

B. I said not to quote me on it as well...... I wasn't 100% sure. That is what I heard, but if you can find the exact reasoning on it. That would be grateful.

Didn't mean to sound like a tool bag; cop killers just make me angry, especially one that remains at large and insists that she is innocent. The car Chesimard was in was stopped for a defective tail light on the Turnpike. Three people in the car, all members of the Black Panthers and/or the Black Liberation Army. The driver was pulled from the vehicle during a pat down search, the trooper who responded as backup found a magazine (Or clip, for those who watch too much TV). He held it up for the other trooper and said, "Hey, look what I found!" Chesimard reportedly opened fire with an automatic weapon. One of the suspects was killed and Trooper Werner Foerster was shot and killed with his own gun.

She subsequently escaped from prison and fled to Cuba, where she reportedly lives. What really grinds my gears (To quote Peter Griffin) is that she had the audacity to publish an autobiography making herself out to be a hero of the "revolution against the pig powers of amerika." Today, there are many liberals of all races who still openly support this animal, which is why I get a bit touchy. Sorry again to sound like a tool bag.

[chevrolet02z28]

Didn't mean to sound like a tool bag; cop killers just make me angry, especially one that remains at large and insists that she is innocent. The car Chesimard was in was stopped for a defective tail light on the Turnpike. Three people in the car, all members of the Black Panthers and/or the Black Liberation Army. The driver was pulled from the vehicle during a pat down search, the trooper who responded as backup found a magazine (Or clip, for those who watch too much TV). He held it up for the other trooper and said, "Hey, look what I found!" Chesimard reportedly opened fire with an automatic weapon. One of the suspects was killed and Trooper Werner Foerster was shot and killed with his own gun.

She subsequently escaped from prison and fled to Cuba, where she reportedly lives. What really grinds my gears (To quote Peter Griffin) is that she had the audacity to publish an autobiography making herself out to be a hero of the "revolution against the pig powers of amerika." Today, there are many liberals of all races who still openly support this animal, which is why I get a bit touchy. Sorry again to sound like a tool bag.


Hummm thanks for the clarification. Just reading the comment seemed like it was a .. U idiot yer effing wrong comment. Although mine was dickish as well. But that definitely helps. As far as cop killing. Amen to that. I don't blame you. Sure cops are ********, but i know allot of cops as well who I'm very close with. She isn't heroic in any way. I still don't understand why we don't just march on in and nab that hoe. Screw the laws. This is America we stick troops every where else. Lets just start **** with Cuba too... Should just send someone to assassinate her.

personally not to go off topic, but the laws in this country are a joke.murderers get off too easy. Should go back to death sentence.

[Mike]

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Licenses/sunscreening.htm

theres the information on prescribed tint

[sweetbmxrider]

i know a parts delivery guy with a skin condition who has tinted windows on his minivan.