NJFBOA @ NJMP

[NJSPEEDER]

OK kids, time for the final details to get this off the ground.

I need to know who is seriously interested in attending an NJFBOA Track Day at New Jersey Motorsports Park. This day will end up involving more than just our members and we are not going to be snobs and say f-bodies only.

The first group that spaces will be offered to is the membership of this club, bring any vehicle that passes a basic safety check along with your helmet and you are in.

The target date is Monday, June 15th. The date is a Monday simply because the economics of renting the facility for a weekend event are completely unrealistic.

The costs are estimated to be $250 per driver AT MOST. The costs will most likely come in under that, but we would rather warn everyone what the highest possible cost may be instead of surprising everyone later. As we work on sponsorship and such for this event, we will apply those funds to lowering the per driver cost of the event.

The day will consist of 5-6 lapping sessions per run group. Run groups will be decided based primarily on driver experience. There will also be professional instruction available all day. The instructors are a part of the entry price, no additional fees if you decide to take advantage of their help.

The target to fill the day is 50-55 driver slots. Not all of the slots will have to be filled from with in our membership, but we would obviously like to see as many of our members out there as possible

The day at the track will be run by a professional track day company with years of experience. They have a successful track record and just need to know if we have enough people interested to make this a reality.

Date: Monday, June 15th
Location: New Jersey Motorsports Park
Cost: $250/driver

Who's Planning to be there:

1. NJSPEEDER (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=902)
2. cbrrmike (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=1007)
3. BigAls87Z28 (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=903)
4. 1QWIKBIRD (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=1556)
5. EchoMirage (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=2221)
6. SupermanX24 (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=1897)
7. qwikz28 (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=1190)
8. unstable bob gable (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=1417)
9. sweetbmxrider (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=3216)
10. xrelapse13 (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=3371)
11. 69BirdX (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=1120)
12. scooter (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=1832)
13. TNTramair (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=1893)
14. Jensend (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=3588)
15. 1BadRS (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=1199)
16. miketa95 (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=3595)
17. Stevoone (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=2304)
18. 87IROCmadman (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=1172)
19. Blacdout96 (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=1175)
20. BlackBADaSS02 (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=1547)
21. Little G (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=904)
22. FESTER (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=1737)
23. GTwhOa (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=2274)
24. camaro2you (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=1132)
25. lifbaprez (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=1293)
26. HiddenSnake (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=3576)
27. yamakawazuki (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=1796)
28. JSPERFORMANCE (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=1681)
29. cdubbzz (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=2003)
30. sk8rshorty (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=3628)
31. lisaWS6 (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=3634)
32. Jersyboyy (http://www.njfboa.org/forums/member.php?u=3318)
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[Mike]

rgr, time to make like my sig and lap the truck

[BigAls87Z28]

Im in. I guess that means Ill have to get the 87's suspension stuff done asap. That or im gunna have to fix the 72..

[1QWIKBIRD]

I'm in.

[EchoMirage]

i should be slotted in as a given

[SupermanX24]

Unless god forbids me to have a job til then, count me in. lol

[sweetbmxrider]

do you need a license to run?

[NJSPEEDER]

Not sure, I will look into it.

[qwikz28]

i'm in of course :)

[EchoMirage]

do you need a license to run?

for a rented track day, i highly doubt it.

[sweetbmxrider]

cool cool. let me know for sure. i would love to do this, have to get the car in shape though

[unstable bob gable]

VERY COOL! ubg is in, and having it on a Monday is a good idea. Less cost+long weekend= WIN!!!!

ubg will promote this on his site, and will get word out to his AMC cohorts. And ubg will also let his buddy Monteque J Monibags know. Monte races Porsches and could prolly fill a seat or 3...

[NJSPEEDER]

This is already a massive response and we didn't event send the newsletter yet. After that goes out tomorrow I am sure we will have plenty of interest to move this into all systems go mode :)

Remember, NJFBOA Members get first shot at signing up. Once we have everything in writing and locked in we will announce it here first. So start planning now!!!

BTW, I already have a verbal agreement for a few door prizes at the track day :) We will work out how they will be given away.

Keep spreading the word kids!!! :drive:

[xrelapse13]

Will definitely be in, should have my full suspension in by then too instead of 101k shocks

[69BirdX]

Should be good for me and my Buddy in his mach. Might even get my best friend and his srt8 magnum down.

[PolarBear]

I am in. Helmet is needed right? Ill probably buy one soon

[Stevoone]

Sound's like a lot of fun. If I can ever get around to getting the heads/cam in my car I would like to go. If not maybe I can make it down to watch.

[TNTramair]

count me in. what are the safety requirements for said rental?? do we need monkey bars and 6 point harness' or no? i know alot of tracks are pretty strict with that stuff so i just wanna make sure before i commit.

[Jensend]

As long as there isn't a schedule conflict, I'd be interested, probably my son as well. We won't know our actual schedules until after the first of the new year.

[NJSPEEDER]

I am in. Helmet is needed right? Ill probably buy one soon

Yes, helmet will be required. I am working on a deal with a company to sponsor the club that may be able to help with this. Won't come together until after New Year most likely, if you can wait.

Sound's like a lot of fun. If I can ever get around to getting the heads/cam in my car I would like to go. If not maybe I can make it down to watch.

What do you need heads and cam for? If the car is running, show up. This isn't going to be in any way a competitive day, just lapping and laughs.

count me in. what are the safety requirements for said rental?? do we need monkey bars and 6 point harness' or no? i know alot of tracks are pretty strict with that stuff so i just wanna make sure before i commit.

As of now the only requirement will be helmet and a safe car. It will be a general overview of the car safety, no loose stuff flying around, battery held down properly, brakes in good shape, windshield not about to cave in, good seat/safety belts......you get the idea.

As time draws closer we will have a write up on how to be sure your vehicle is properly prepared for a lapping day.

Keep spreading the word kids. It's going to be a great day :drive:

[Stevoone]

What do you need heads and cam for? If the car is running, show up. This isn't going to be in any way a competitive day, just lapping and laughs.


I'll be there. I may also have someone else interested in going.

[NJSPEEDER]

Cool.

If anyone has friends that are interested in attending, it may be a good idea to have them join the club and post up here. Since the slots available will be put out to members first and we are receiving such a positive response, it would be a shame to see your friends locked out because we ran out of slots.

[TNTramair]

As of now the only requirement will be helmet and a safe car. It will be a general overview of the car safety, no loose stuff flying around, battery held down properly, brakes in good shape, windshield not about to cave in, good seat/safety belts......you get the idea.

:

sounds good...im in with the Formula!

[ar0ck]

I'll most likely be busting my hump in Quantico by then, but if things change you better believe I'll be there.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Stupid question, but what about rain?

[NJSPEEDER]

We run in the rain. :drive:

[69BirdX]

Yea im down for that but i dunno if the track officals willl like it ha ha

[NJSPEEDER]

Track officials not like your car or running in the rain? This ain't NASCAR, we don't have to run and hide because some water decided to fall from the sky.

Get your car ready to go and come on safe tires and we will rock it in any weather.

[1BadRS]

I would be interested in joining this event. Count me in.

[PolarBear]

I would be interested in joining this event. Count me in.

I doubt your car is going to live up to your user name :moon:
Finally I get you to join and you dont live in Trenton :rofl:

[miketa95]

I'm in.

[PolarBear]

Are we going to get lap times or be able to pass on this? My impression is mostly for instructional purposes?

[NJSPEEDER]

Passing will be courtesty/waive by only. This isn't a competition and we aren't going out there to risk anyone's car.

I don't think there are going to be any official lap times or tracking. There are systems available for you to track your laps and such from in the car if you are interested.

[Mike]

or, since we will be in different groups and there will be spectators, we could arrange for stopwatches or similar timing equipment for grudge purposes

[PolarBear]

or, since we will be in different groups and there will be spectators, we could arrange for stopwatches or similar timing equipment for grudge purposes

Yeah that was my friend thinks this is but I was pretty sure it was more for fun and less for grudges :| His car is supposed to be "better" than mine :rofl: He wants to see some numbers so there is something definitive

[NJSPEEDER]

Just be warned that if anyone starts getting stupid out there or acting competitive, they will be bounced. This is to be a safe and fun day above all else.

[IROCZman15]

this sounds like an awesome idea. its too far in advance for me to be 100% in, but i will def. try to organize my work schedule to allow me to go and run. sounds totally awesome

[Blacdout96]

We run in the rain. :drive:

QFT. Im in. Finally time to see what the sick 3.8's got in her around the twisties lol.

[69BirdX]

Ill be getting my Gf to come and another to take pics and video ha ha

[BlackBADaSS02]

Count me in.

[unstable bob gable]

ubg's buddy Monteque J Monibags says he'll be able to fill any empty spots w/ guys from his Porsche club. Monte is a really nice guy and has tons o' track experience, so he'd be a good guy to have along.

[Little G]

My LTTLGXP will be there. Looking forward to it!

g

Ninjedit: Hopefully will have the Stage II installed by then!!

[FESTER]

I'm in this will be fun... now what to bring? 99 T/A LS1 or 04 CTS-V LS6:nod:

[sweetbmxrider]

V!!!!

[GTwhOa]

Been signed up on the board for about a year and half but this is actually my first post - count me in as a definite if you don't mind a GTO on the track with you. I'm in.

-Steve

[NJSPEEDER]

The track day is open to all members, even the ones with family cars :p j/k

We don't mind, we have an N/A Solstice, Solstice GXP, Buick T-Type, a few Corvettes, and who knows what else planing to show up. Even if we don't all have a perfect day on the track it will be a hell of a car show :)

[camaro2you]

im down!

[lifbaprez]

Can a Long Islander get in on this? I would love to do something like this with my Hawk...

[PolarBear]

The track day is open to all members, even the ones with family cars :p j/k

We don't mind, we have an N/A Solstice, Solstice GXP, Buick T-Type, a few Corvettes, and who knows what else planing to show up. Even if we don't all have a perfect day on the track it will be a hell of a car show :)

Hey! I may bring the 91 GTA :-x

[NJSPEEDER]

Can a Long Islander get in on this? I would love to do something like this with my Hawk...

Sure thing, it is for all members. Be sure to pass along word to your crew. Members get first dibs on spots, so if they wanna be sure to get in they should get signed up.

Looking forward to seeing you there.

We are going to see how fast we can get the final details hammered out and start the registration process. This is going to be a hell of a day. I can't wait.

[unstable bob gable]

The track day is open to all members, even the ones with family cars :p j/k

We don't mind, we have an N/A Solstice, Solstice GXP, Buick T-Type, a few Corvettes, and who knows what else planing to show up. Even if we don't all have a perfect day on the track it will be a hell of a car show :)

Yeah, it'll be fun just crawling around all the cars picking up some ideas...

[69BirdX]

My friends bringin his Srt 8 magnum. they were designed for road racing and handle amazing for there size and weight

[HiddenSnake]

$250!! Put me on that list! If you cant get a hold of me ask jersey Boy for me. Wonder what you guys will think of an IRS Mustang going with you guys.

[NJSPEEDER]

Same thing I usually think when I see an IRS Mustang, "I wonder how long until the half shaft snaps?" lol

Yes, a cheap shot, but you set yourself up. :moon:

[PolarBear]

Wonder what you guys will think of an IRS Mustang going with you guys.

Same thing I think when I see any rustang, "look at that POS"

[sweetbmxrider]

eh, avatar looks badass. the amount of different cars lining up should make for a great day!

[yamakawazuki]

Put me on the list. 250 for a day on the track cant be passed up.

[JSPERFORMANCE]

We are in, some way or another we will be there. Maybe bring the tools and scales too in case some guys want to try to change up your set ups.
Tim there should also be a thread as this gets closer for tips on prepping your car for adjustability/handeling and proper corner weighing..

I just watched tokyo drift so I think I know all I need to about road racing. Just need to get used to using the steering wheel to turn the car instead of as a handle.

[sweetbmxrider]

We are in, some way or another we will be there. Maybe bring the tools and scales too in case some guys want to try to change up your set ups.
Tim there should also be a thread as this gets closer for tips on prepping your car for adjustability/handeling and proper corner weighing..

I just watched tokyo drift so I think I know all I need to about road racing. Just need to get used to using the steering wheel to turn the car instead of as a handle.

that would be awesome if you brought tools and scales!

[baddest434]

ugh my car don't take corners to well:lol:
count me out- have fun though!!

[Mike]

eh, avatar looks badass. the amount of different cars lining up should make for a great day!

right because everyone has their own car as the avitar :)

[Jersyboyy]

right because everyone has their own car as the avitar :)

Lol yea thats def not his mustang sorry, but he did just build his rear and he's waiting on some upgraded half shafts right now so hopefully they wont snap come track day either way itll be fun to mix it up a bit with a ford and a bunch of fbodys.

[EchoMirage]

right because everyone has their own car as the avitar :)

mine is

[SupermanX24]

mine is

There's a car in your avatar?

[sweetbmxrider]

i never said it was his car /coveringmyass :D

[cdubbzz]

count me in
did some Pocono races a few yrs ago and had a blast

[HiddenSnake]

eh, avatar looks badass. the amount of different cars lining up should make for a great day!

What are you talking bout? thats my 69 Boss 302 with a fully built IRS in the rear and lowered 18" rims with Bear 6pistion calipers. You guys stupid?:twisted:

[sk8rshorty]

hey im dave LIFBA Prez is my uncle and i am very interested going to see how my pick up does

[Tru2Chevy]

hey im dave LIFBA Prez is my uncle and i am very interested going to see how my pick up does

What kind of pickup do you have?

- Justin

[sk8rshorty]

What kind of pickup do you have?

- Justin

2005 GMC Sierra regular cab stepside
fire red Z71 with some goodies

[lifbaprez]

2005 GMC Sierra regular cab stepside
fire red Z71 with some goodies

Yeah, Just a 5000 pound 4 wheel drive full size pickup that runs 12.95's


LOL

[EchoMirage]

uh huh.....either way, i doubt theyd let a 4wd pickup race. unless it was a lightning, srt10, 454SS, or something lowered and the like, i highly doubt youd be allowed. no matter how fast you might be in a straight line.

[lifbaprez]

It is lowered and will out handle a SRT10 or a lightning too....It is an all over truck, Not a big lifted 4x4


But if NJSPEEDER says no..... he can drive my Hawk

[NJSPEEDER]

I will get clarification about the truck thing.

[04RST]

Look OUT! Pickups are racing... I'm def in with my truck...
I can out handle an srt-10 no prob...

2004 Silverado RST 5spd 2wd...2/4 drop...K&N Intake, Pacesetter LTs w/ory, Ls1 Fans, Hotchkis F&R Sway Bars, KYB shocks, BFG KDWs, 3.73 gears, Detroit TruTrac, cam, injectors, 160* stat, Ported TB, Caltracs, Magnaflow, DMH Cutout, Tuned by Kaltech Tuning and Performance

http://inlinethumb58.webshots.com/42425/2630786510050986487S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2630786510050986487LICMlp)

http://inlinethumb05.webshots.com/3076/2437602780050986487S600x600Q85.jpg (http://rides.webshots.com/photo/2437602780050986487NymtQL)

[SupermanX24]

That's a sweet lookin truck

[sweetbmxrider]

this is going to be insane. i will deffffff bring multimedia, whether i race or not!!

[sk8rshorty]

will be greatly appreciated would definately like to get some seat time other than on the strip

[Appel1999]

Hey everyone... Visiting from LIFBA/ Fastlsx.com.

Do you know if a vert needs a roolbar? Thanks...

[EchoMirage]

even on track days, a rollbar is more then likely needed for a convertable. 95% sure

[lisaWS6]

:drive: Im also visiting from LIFBA looking for 2 spots in the road coarse if still available!

[Jersyboyy]

Hell yea were going to have some islander's on the track with us this is going to be and INSANE DAY! Hope my car is running by then

[lisaWS6]

anyone know what the helmet spects are? need to get one.

[EchoMirage]

probabaly SA2000 or newer. dont think an M helmet will pass.

[NJSPEEDER]

OK, got some clarifications.

Verts will need a roll bar. I am going to get the specifics and post them up.

Truck and SUV owners, sorry but we won't be able to allow them.

[lisaWS6]

I need one more spot for tim-1987 Turbo Regal

[sweetbmxrider]

no suv's??? what about cbrrmike? i wanted to see that ss rip up the corners :(

[Tru2Chevy]

no suv's??? what about cbrrmike? i wanted to see that ss rip up the corners :(

Yea, we did too. Rules are rules though....

- Justin

[Mike]

no suv's??? what about cbrrmike? i wanted to see that ss rip up the corners :(

eh, maybe ill just spend some money and set the ta up for a road course for a little while

[Little G]

welp... count me out since I am sans roll bar.

g

[sk8rshorty]

count me out then

[PolarBear]

welp... count me out since I am sans roll bar.

g

Yeah I'll have to bring the GTA then :cry:

There isnt anyway around the vert rule? These are factory spec cars and it isnt like there will be bumping or anything.

[EchoMirage]

its a NJ state rule. any and all convertables need a rollbar. regardless of other cars on track.

[Appel1999]

Maybe I'll catch up with you guys on a straight line event.

[sweetbmxrider]

you should update the first post with helmet and vert rules as well as any others you come across :) i need to get a helmet

[unstable bob gable]

I wonder why they won't allow trux? I could see not allowing lifted 4 X 4s with big knobby tires or such, but trux like Mike's or say a Syclone or Typhoon are made to be able to take turns...

[Jensend]

Even for novices, the cornering loads and G forces are easily high enough to pose a serious risk for SUVs, trucks and vehicles with a lot of mass and relatively high roll centers. That's why most groups and tracks do not allow them even in modified form.

Stock 4th Gen F-bodies have surprising amounts of body roll and brake dive on road courses- especially with OEM suspension and ride height. This isn't because they're bad cars, it's just a matter of the cornering forces acting on the relatively heavy mass of the car and the grip level of large sticky tires.

It's all about the physics.

[unstable bob gable]

Even for novices, the cornering loads and G forces are easily high enough to pose a serious risk for SUVs, trucks and vehicles with a lot of mass and relatively high roll centers. That's why most groups and tracks do not allow them even in modified form.

Stock 4th Gen F-bodies have surprising amounts of body roll and brake dive on road courses- especially with OEM suspension and ride height. This isn't because they're bad cars, it's just a matter of the cornering forces acting on the relatively heavy mass of the car and the grip level of large sticky tires.

It's all about the physics.

http://bani.anime.net/o_rly.jpg

Makes sense.

[IROCZman15]

^ ^ ^ hahaah UBG! ^ ^ ^

[Stevoone]

Are there any restrictions on T-Top cars? Or is it just convertibles there worried about?

[NJSPEEDER]

The restrictions are just on soft top cars, your t-tops are in a solid frame, so you are good.

[A 2000 SS in Jersey]

Is this an oval track or a road course track???

I am definitely interested in either :)

I might drag my Bro and his 2001 Cobra in for fun.

Like I keep telling him...........ponies are for LiL girls........:)

[JSPERFORMANCE]

As long as there are some good straight aways I should be OK. I have no problem using the grass and killing some cones.

[sweetbmxrider]

As long as there are some good straight aways I should be OK. I have no problem using the grass and killing some cones.

:lol: i'll be doin that too! and i'm in a boat anchor hahaha

[NJSPEEDER]

Is this an oval track or a road course track???

I am definitely interested in either :)

I might drag my Bro and his 2001 Cobra in for fun.

Like I keep telling him...........ponies are for LiL girls........:)

It is a road course.

[unstable bob gable]

Hey Josh, will you install some 2.73s so I can go 200 MPH? :mrgreen:

[Jensend]

The link below is for anyone interested in getting an idea about the track configuration of the Lightning Circuit at NJMSP. It is an in-car track day video of a stock Miata. Notice that the car carries both a driver and instructor and still manages a good bit of speed and momentum. Considering the limited power of the stock Miata, this is a respectable lap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OKodsHjEYc

[sweetbmxrider]

oh damn, thanks for the video. that miata was definitely holding its own. i'm getting excited!

[LTb1ow]

Mario cart!

[Mike]

you mean stock miata with a roll cage? or are other people more special than us

[NJSPEEDER]

Miatas also have a bolt on hardtop available. So the car could have either a roll bar or the hard top and be legal to run.

[Tru2Chevy]

Is this an oval track or a road course track???

I am definitely interested in either :)

I might drag my Bro and his 2001 Cobra in for fun.

Like I keep telling him...........ponies are for LiL girls........:)

http://www.njmotorsportspark.com/tracks.html

Lightning Raceway
The 1.9 mile Northern Circuit will be known as Lightning, this 10 corner circuit will be fast and challenging featuring some of the most interesting and dramatic corners and elevation changes in the park. The 20 acre paddock area will have a 4 acre skid pad and autocross area, as well as concession areas, timing towers and school and drivers meeting room facilities.

- Justin

[Batman]

If I can get the day off count me in so put me down for 80% sure, although I will probably want to test out the Subaru....

[Kat]

Now for verts does it need to be a 4 point bar or 6 point?

[EchoMirage]

probably just a 2pt rollbar. not a full cage

[1QWIKBIRD]

probably just a 2pt rollbar. not a full cage

I'd do some homework. Never heard of or seen a 2pt rollbar? Does such a thing exist? That's a hoop with with no front/rear struts? Probably meant 3pt?

[NJSPEEDER]

I am finding out abut the roll bar requirements.

[PolarBear]

What about tech requirements?

[NJSPEEDER]

I just talked to the company that we are doing this with and they are going back and forth with all of the paperwork and such with the track still.

Once the date and the insurance and everything else is locked in we will be able to post all of the technical requirements for the event.

[lifbaprez]

Cool Tim....Thanks for doing this

[Mike]

I'd do some homework. Never heard of or seen a 2pt rollbar? Does such a thing exist? That's a hoop with with no front/rear struts? Probably meant 3pt?

2 point would be what the old cobras have....and the miatas........i doubt they have anything like that for a 4 seat car

[1QWIKBIRD]

2 point would be what the old cobras have....and the miatas........i doubt they have anything like that for a 4 seat car

Pretty sure Cobras had 3pts....

http://www.autabuy.com/ViewPhoto/?I=/Photos/249375_175262189_Original.jpg&ShowAdSense=1&K=1966%20FORD%20AC%20COBRA%20427

I don't know what miata's had and if you are going to put a bar into a car, then you might as well install a bar that has at least 3pts, preferably 4 or more.

Chris

[Mike]

hmm good point thanks

[yanniotis]

OK, got some clarifications.

Verts will need a roll bar. I am going to get the specifics and post them up.

Truck and SUV owners, sorry but we won't be able to allow them.

Correct me if I am wrong because I would like to come....
I can run a Lightning @180+ mph during an open road race or run at other road courses, but I can not @ NJMP where it will out handle/run 80% of the other cars? :confused:

[PolarBear]

I doubt it will out handle the cars coming to our session but yeah you cant bring trucks or SUV's

[Mike]

Correct me if I am wrong because I would like to come....
I can run a Lightning @180+ mph during an open road race or run at other road courses, but I can not @ NJMP where it will out handle/run 80% of the other cars? :confused:

its not our rule.....

[yanniotis]

Stupid rule. My truck is very very far from a stock Lightning and is setup specifically to RR.

[Jensend]

It's true that some of the Lightnings are track worthy (several have run in the One Lap of America competitions), however, my guess is that NJMSP, like many other tracks, have insurance limitations that are established by their carriers. Insurance companies aren't interested in much beyond their own liability and tend to make broad generalizations to cover themselves.

[NJSPEEDER]

Stupid rule. My truck is very very far from a stock Lightning and is setup specifically to RR.

It is an insurance issue. There are events that are run by Lightning and TBSS clubs, perhaps one of them can offer you the opportunity you are seeking. Since we are running this event through another company, we are not able to speak to every insurance issue or split hairs to decide what does or doesn't qualify when it comes to allowing trucks.

[yanniotis]

I understand. I just never had, nor heard of a problem running the Lightnings at any tracks before. The TBSS I have heard of a fewtracks not allowing them.
I would bring the GTA, but it is not ready nor will it be for a while.

[lifbaprez]

Anybody staying at a hotel the night before? Thinking about goinf to A/C on Sunday and then to the track Monday

[Mike]

Anybody staying at a hotel the night before? Thinking about going to A/C on Sunday and then to the track Monday

i think tim was planning something like that, but was looking for something concrete before posting.........if i take the days off just to hang out (im one of the banned suv people) i would definitely be down for an ac trip

[EvilC]

Do you guys know yet the exact number of runs and time of each run. I may join you guys if my lil Z is allowed =). I read through the thread and can't find if this is for the Lighting or Thunderbolt course. Thanks.

Clive

[Mike]

Do you guys know yet the exact number of runs and time of each run. I may join you guys if my lil Z is allowed =). I read through the thread and can't find if this is for the Lighting or Thunderbolt course. Thanks.

Clive

lightning, dont have any other answers for you though, other than i dont see why your car wouldnt be allowed, and i for one would love to see it in person

[Rex Kars]

Count me in! I have been dying to see this place.

[Rex Kars]

count me in !