ALL lt1 GUYS IN HERE!!

[z28rob18]

alright so ive been talkin to someone from qtp because im a bit irritated that lt1's cant run the quick 8 class in there efi challenge. so i asked if they thought of a lt1 quick 8 and he said that there's not many fast lt1's let alone 8. so if i can get atleast 8 quick lt1's they might consider this class. so who here has an lt1 runnin 10 and lower anyone?!

[NJSPEEDER]

Most of the fastest LT1 cars aren't local. There are some fairly quick ones around here, but beyond a few in the 9's and some low 10 second cars, pickings are thin for a quick 8 class for LT1's. A lot of the fastest LT1 guys are up in MI area and in the southwest.

Not that the cars don't exist, just there aren't many in the area.

If you really wanna get this going, get in touch with guys on the Caprice/ImpalaSS and Corvette sites too.

[z28rob18]

Most of the fastest LT1 cars aren't local. There are some fairly quick ones around here, but beyond a few in the 9's and some low 10 second cars, pickings are thin for a quick 8 class for LT1's. A lot of the fastest LT1 guys are up in MI area and in the southwest.

Not that the cars don't exist, just there aren't many in the area.

If you really wanna get this going, get in touch with guys on the Caprice/ImpalaSS and Corvette sites too.

alright do you know any of the site's? id love to try and get this goin

[LTb1ow]

Low 8s?

There are maybe 5 guys running that low.

[TheBandit]

so who here has an lt1 runnin 10 and lower anyone?!

Low 8s?

There are maybe 5 guys running that low.

Read much?

[LTb1ow]

Not really. I try to avoid it.

[TheBandit]

Obvi

[LTb1ow]

Low tens with what kinda combo?

Outlaw? Single power adder? Etc....

23degree heads?

[z28rob18]

its a quick 8 class in an event so the 8 quickest cars get in no restrictions except for an lt based motor.

[LTb1ow]

What defines an "LT1"?

[z28rob18]

um lt1 found in a 93-97 fbody or i think 92-96 vette and in the caprice's and impalas in those days. you know the motors with the optispark. not the gen1 lt1

[LTb1ow]

Yes I know, but you can run a single plane, converted SBC heads, heck you can even run an LS1 cam shaft....

Your familar with the LTX shootout classes right?

[z28rob18]

Yes I know, but you can run a single plane, converted SBC heads, heck you can even run an LS1 cam shaft....

Your familar with the LTX shootout classes right?

yes im familiar im registered on the ltxshootout site and im plannin to go and run 2 events. i just thought id try to see if there was anyone s i could try and have qtp make a ltx quick 8 class so i could have somthin to run in in the event

[miketa95]

it shouldn't be titled alll lt1 guys in here. Some of us only run 14.

[LTb1ow]

Then some of us should be changing that!

[z28rob18]

i put all because if i put all 10 second and lower lt1 guys noone would even look at it i dont think this will be happenin i dont see myself findin 7 other lt1's fast enough

[ar0ck]

QTP can eat a bag of dicks. I wouldn't give support to that company even if it were the last one on earth.

[z28rob18]

QTP can eat a bag of dicks. I wouldn't give support to that company even if it were the last one on earth.

have some sort of issue wit them? cause im not exactly happy with how the quick 8 is lsx only. i think its BS how in an efi race the quick 8 is lsx only im sure theres other efi car that should be in that class (me next year) and aren't allowed i think a quick 8 should be for everyone and after qualifying the fastest 8 cars race and if the fastest 8 are all lsx cars then thats great

[baddest434]

What defines an "LT1"?

a slower version of an ls1 :rofl:

[LTb1ow]

a slower version of an ls1 :rofl:

Woah, lets be honest now. LS1s are slow and sound bad. :lol:

[sweetbmxrider]

i'm sl0w

[baddest434]

Woah, lets be honest now. LS1s are slow and sound bad. :lol:

eh just stirring the pot :lol:

[Pampered-Z]

I certainly love the idea and would try my hand at the Q8 once I get a rear in the car. BUT,,,,,

There isn't that much interest in the LT1s anymore. With the LSX blocks now being so affordable the LT1s are basically done with R+D so we can't even come close to the cubic inches the LS based engines are getting. So getting a vendor to do anything like this is going to be tuff,they aren't going to get that much publicity or business from it. After one race there will probably be one really quick LT! and it will be a class killer and the LT1 quick 8 will be money looser.

In the tristate area N2ODave is the fastest LT1 that I'm aware of. 396 LT1 block, SB2 heads, clutchless 5 speed. Went 9s on a soft launch and all motor. Easy 8 second car on the spray. but that monster is big money! He has almost as much in his motor alone as I have in my entire car!

[z28rob18]

i didnt know nitrous dave had an lt1 car and i didnt know he was in the tri state area lol and your right with everything. there'd be one class killer and also that lt1's r falling off everyone that has an lt1 wants to go ls. im stickin with the lt1 for now see wat i can do with it then one day ill probably make the change

[LTb1ow]

All I have to do is run a 10?

[z28rob18]

that would be it but it aint gonna happen because id have to get at least 6 more cars. and they might not consider a high ten good for a quick 8

[racerz]

10s r possible with motor only on an lt car but its street manners would b affected.(but runnin 10s streetebility is not really a concern.I know someone through a mutual friend that has three NHRA stock record holders runnin mid tens with lt all motor

[NastyEllEssWon]

seems like your having trouble finding just one. :lol:
most lt1's nowadays are used for Marine Weights.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

seems like your having trouble finding just one. :lol:
most lt1's nowadays are used for Marine Weights.

Man you love getting a shot in on LT1's any chance you have....Big words for a almost stock LS1 :rofl:

[NastyEllEssWon]

http://s71.photobucket.com/albums/i125/Jsaul83/runningfourteens.jpg

[sweetbmxrider]

Man you love getting a shot in on LT1's any chance you have....Big words for a almost stock LS1 :rofl:

nasty? :lol:

[NastyEllEssWon]

you rang?



haha yeah he's speaking of my ''beast''. i just like to take a few pop shots here and there. its all in good fun. :rofl: my current z is actually going to be going away very shortly. might even become a daily driver for me. im purchasing my buddies six speed/ttop z. i just need time to drive it back from san jose (where i used to live) to trenton . :-P

[sweetbmxrider]

what happened to your c5 quest?

[Batman]

heck you can even run an LS1 cam shaft....

?

Huh? I don't think that will work.

[LTb1ow]

Yup, its basically a revised firing order. You need a new tune. And some wiring switching.

[BarneyMobile]

Yup, its basically a revised firing order. You need a new tune. And some wiring switching.
An LS1 cam physically wont fit in anything but and LSX style motor. The cam journals are larger on the LSX cam and wouldn't even slide into an LTX motor.

[LTb1ow]

I meant a LT1 cam speced to a revised firing order, LS1 style.

[NastyEllEssWon]

what happened to your c5 quest?



nothing suitable with the mileage wise...every c5 between 10-15k has a bunch of miles. if something pops up ill snag it...but this is the plan for now

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

you rang?



haha yeah he's speaking of my ''beast''. i just like to take a few pop shots here and there. its all in good fun. :rofl: my current z is actually going to be going away very shortly. might even become a daily driver for me. im purchasing my buddies six speed/ttop z. i just need time to drive it back from san jose (where i used to live) to trenton . :-P

Wow thats a hell of a drive :shock: . Guess you'll find out if its reliable or not.

[NastyEllEssWon]

Wow thats a hell of a drive :shock: . Guess you'll find out if its reliable or not.


haha ive known this car since it was brand new. it has like 80k on it right now. cali cars are clean celan clean thouhg

[z28rob18]

i know your just jokin but when im done my little old lt1 will kick the **** outta most ls1's and hang with most of the rest ls1's. to bad i cant find anyone else :(:banghead:

[LTb1ow]

I just need tires and about a 300 shot.....

[Pampered-Z]

I just need money for a dana rear and good sticky tires and i should be in the 10s, Right now I easing out of the hole and rolling it into the boost I'm trapping 124MPH and not hitting the shift light at the finish line.

I plan to go to a bigger super charger and up the boost until i get to 10.0, that's my goal.

[97transam]

The Carol won't let me go that fast.
Change out the 3:42s, suspension parts and a few more stickers and I should be able to move down from 12.2 to the 11's, but 10's is too far on the pocket book with kid in college...

[Pampered-Z]

The Carol won't let me go that fast.
Change out the 3:42s, suspension parts and a few more stickers and I should be able to move down from 12.2 to the 11's, but 10's is too far on the pocket book with kid in college...

Go for the 10's! ~ Harold's but his S+W rollbar for sale! And it's powder coated BLACK!

[kazman]

I just need money for a dana rear and good sticky tires and i should be in the 10s, Right now I easing out of the hole and rolling it into the boost I'm trapping 124MPH and not hitting the shift light at the finish line.

I plan to go to a bigger super charger and up the boost until i get to 10.0, that's my goal.


I'm only going 12.0 at 118mph. Think something is wrong with my car?

[kazman]

The Carol won't let me go that fast.
Change out the 3:42s, suspension parts and a few more stickers and I should be able to move down from 12.2 to the 11's, but 10's is too far on the pocket book with kid in college...


Take out a "student" loan. To quote you BHAHAHAHHAHAHH.

[Knipps]

I'm only going 12.0 at 118mph. Think something is wrong with my car?
full suspension?

[kazman]

full suspension?


Sorry, it was a smart a$$ question to Pamperd-Z. My car is a "bracket" car set up to run a 12.0 index (deep staged foot breaking). Launching off the trans brake and shifting at 7k instead of 5K does produce a bit quicker ET. Just a tad harder on the equipment.

To answer you question I have a chrome moly front k-frame, subframe connectors, Sphon adjustable link, wolf drag rear sway bar, relocation brackets, and competetion engineering rear shocks. 8 point roll bar ties eveything together, no front sway bar or shock tower brace. Lifts straight and will hook on spit.

[LTb1ow]

What kind of tires?

[Tru2Chevy]

What kind of tires?

Here's his car (2.5 years ago though):

http://www.njfboa.org/JustinImages/Clash/P1010011.JPG
http://www.njfboa.org/JustinImages/Clash/P1010024.JPG
http://www.njfboa.org/JustinImages/Clash/P1010033.JPG
http://www.njfboa.org/JustinImages/Clash/P1010047.JPG

- Justin

[kazman]

What kind of tires?

Hoosier Quick Time Pro 27-10.5x15 no tubes, rim screws on Centerline Telstar 7x15. Front are Pep Boys VW Bug tires on Telstar 4x15 rims. Had 27-11.5x15 QTP's on the back and they stuck out 1" , gave the same traction but slowed the car by 2-3 mph. I swithchd the front from Moroso racing tires to the pep boys in order to meet the "dot" requirements for Street Class. I didn't see any changes from the front tire switch since the tire diameters were the same. I also deep stage so front tire changes have almost no impact on rollout.

[kazman]

Here's his car (2.5 years ago though):

http://www.njfboa.org/JustinImages/Clash/P1010011.JPG
http://www.njfboa.org/JustinImages/Clash/P1010024.JPG
http://www.njfboa.org/JustinImages/Clash/P1010033.JPG
http://www.njfboa.org/JustinImages/Clash/P1010047.JPG

- Justin

Wow, I forgot about those pictures. I think that was in 2006. Looks like I was a tad late on that one light, well a lot late. :(

[LTb1ow]

What kinda engine setup are you running?

[kazman]

What kinda engine setup are you running?

LT1, 383 stroker, 4 bolt mains, crowler forged crank and rods. Rapidmotors stage 2 heads, Joe Overton cam. Installed dished pistons on last rebuild to run pump gas. Lost about 25-30 hp over previous engine due to the pistons. I think it now has 10:1 compression and runs nicely on WAWA 93 octane fuel. Ported intake, bigger injectors, fuel pump, etc. Turbo 400 auto with reverse manual valve body, moser 12 bolt spool, 31spline axles, 411 gears. Bracket tune (LT1 edit on the rich side). Hooker headers, moroso oil pan, underdirve pully and of course kept the opti spark.

[LTb1ow]

Nice, I guess you don't spin it high if you kept the stock PCM and opti?

[kazman]

Nice, I guess you don't spin it high if you kept the stock PCM and opti?

I can take it to 7000rmp when necessary. I usually shift it at 5500 for bracket racing. The car wasn't raced last season and most likley won't be used this year either. When it is used I usually double enter and run every weekend. That accounts for the 400 passes per season.

[Pampered-Z]

I'm only going 12.0 at 118mph. Think something is wrong with my car?


Well nothing wrong, cause you're dialing 12.0,,,, (whopping the throttle at 1,000 feet!) :kneeslap:


I spin the DRs so bad I can't even put it under serious boost until I'm in 3rd gear. The one time I tries I broke the posi! My runs were leaving soft, 2.0+ 60s, and short shifting until 3rd gear, then mashing it! ETs were 12.4s and 124 and still putting hard thru the traps.

honestly, I think it's got a 10 ( high 10 ) at 127-128 MPH in it. Low 10's aren't going to happen until the blower gets upgraded. The goal is 10.0s in the 133-134 range so i don't need to do all the ET/speed equipement of going faster. It's just a street car you know. :angel:

[z28rob18]

you guys all run at atco or etown?

[Pampered-Z]

Mostly Numida (I live exactly 1 mile from the track, and work there) or maple grove. Years ago when I lived in Langhorn I raced at E-town allot, but not recently, that's about a 150 miles away from home. Haven't raced at Acto in probably 8-10 years.

[kazman]

I'm running street at Raceway and Maple Grove. Don't plan to make Atco this year. I haven't been back to Atco since last March when the little pony made it to the winners circle. May 31st will be decision day on where to finish the season. Depends on where I'm at in the points race. I will be running my mustang again this season because it's a bit cheaper to race. I will most likely loose my job by the end of this year. Can you guess for which major pharmaceutical company I work for? If you guessed Pfizer you guess wrong. Bradenton 2010?

John, whomping the gas at 1000' shaves a lot of mph but not ET. Need the brake pedel to do that. I'm to the point where I can hold and shave 1.5 in the Formula and .10 in the Mustang. God willing my knees will be fully working this year. :) I was going to borrow a box and run Super Pro in the bird off the button. Will have to see how I footbrake.

[z28rob18]

im gonna run a good amount of gamblers races at atco this year try and win some and just have fun. not lookin to go every week

[Pampered-Z]

John, whomping the gas at 1000' shaves a lot of mph but not ET. Need the brake pedel to do that. I'm to the point where I can hold and shave 1.5 in the Formula and .10 in the Mustang. God willing my knees will be fully working this year. :) I was going to borrow a box and run Super Pro in the bird off the button. Will have to see how I footbrake.


I wasn't going to give out any secrets. :oops:

[Pampered-Z]

im gonna run a good amount of gamblers races at atco this year try and win some and just have fun. not lookin to go every week

I'm undecided what I will run this year, Probably not points, I want to build something with an auto and maybe run pro. Problem is that the top guys at Numidia are so consistent you can't afford to miss many weekends, I'm guaranteed to miss at least 5 weekends due to attending NHRA events and others such as superchevy, Our Nat's

Numidia does have “Friday night Street legal drags”, it has a payout and you can run points in the classes as well. I'm thinking of doing that, and it should be less rounds , and less need to compete every weekend. If I start running consistent I'll just into some of the weekend footbrake money races.

I'll see what happens when the car gets back together, and how long it takes to get it and the driver dialed-in!

Does look like Maple Grove is having some type of Street Wars event happening once a month on Saturdays. I want to get details and look into that. MG is about 60-70 miles from me, just sucks towing up and down the mountains!

[Tru2Chevy]

Wow, I forgot about those pictures. I think that was in 2006. Looks like I was a tad late on that one light, well a lot late. :(

That was Father's Day 2006, at the F-Body Clash.

- Justin

[97transam]

Take out a "student" loan. To quote you BHAHAHAHHAHAHH.

Bahahahhaha... you got me lmao....

Yeah yeah yeah... I hear ya on the "student" loan. Normal I get $2K to put into the car. But The Carol has cut my budget citing the "econ no me, econ no you". I'm putting in an appeal to Obama for some bailout money for the car, because unlike the banks, I'll spend it!!! Suspension, gears, front wheel skinnies, chrom-molly K member, loom-in-um drive shaft.... but I'll still be aways from 10s. And from what I see of you guys, I'm not inclined to go faster only to break parts faster!!! bahahahahhahaha

[LTb1ow]

All you need is juiiiiceeeeee

[z28rob18]

so i think im goin to convert my lt1 to coil packs using the LTCC computer. what you think?

[LTb1ow]

Why?

You still maintain opti.
Expensive way to do things.

[z28rob18]

Why?

You still maintain opti.
Expensive way to do things.

but u only use it for the crank trigger

[LTb1ow]

And? The opti is still there.

[z28rob18]

but it gets rid of the electrical job of the opti no? bad idea? im lookin for a way to reliably make 650whp and n2o and spin 6800rpm without a problem is my best bet stickin with the opti?

[LTb1ow]

The optical sensor is still used, which between the two parts is probably the more reliable but still opti. Have you considered running a megasquirt or FAST setup?

[z28rob18]

The optical sensor is still used, which between the two parts is probably the more reliable but still opti. Have you considered running a megasquirt or FAST setup?

ive considered a ton of things but most are hard on the wallet im 19 workin 71hrs a week to fund this build im tryin not to add to it. how would the fast set up work?

[LTb1ow]

Well I would beef up the rotor by ditching the rivets or get the LTCC setup. And then not spin it that high. Why 6800?

[z28rob18]

6800 is the max were willing to spin it 6500 is really where we want the powerband to end but i figured when i told AI my goals thats what id tell them. and what you mean beef it up by ditching the rivets?

[Pampered-Z]

There is a really good discusion in the tech section concerning the opti.

http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=39359&highlight=Electromotive&page=3

From what I've been reading on some other boards the LS1 retro fit ECM is nearly ready for release. Right now it seems like it is going to be the easiest system to install and have allot of value.

[LTb1ow]

The rotor is held together by rivets and you drill them out and replace with something more substantial if I am not mistaken.

[kazman]

Bahahahhaha... you got me lmao....
And from what I see of you guys, I'm not inclined to go faster only to break parts faster!!! bahahahahhahaha


Haven't broken anything since the explosing and fire. Car did a self oil change on Atco's 1000' marker. lol. That was back in '05 with the "fast" motor. Car has been pretty solid. I did have issues until I learned how to "bleed" air from the cooling system. Once I restrained myself from going faster and focused on slowing the car down the parts stayed together. Everything in the car is rated for twice the current HP which also helps. The car has 1500+ runs on it and is still good for another season. After that I will do a tear down and a freshen up. Hummm high compression pistons ..... uh oh.

[LTb1ow]

What CR are you running?

What kinda pistons?
Rods?

If you don't mind that is... ;)

[kazman]

What CR are you running?

What kinda pistons?
Rods?

If you don't mind that is... ;)

Crowler forged crank for the LT1.
Crowler 6" forged stroker rods. No need to notch the block.
Don't know what pistons, left that up the the machine shop. He is local and specializes in building roundy round car engines. Can u say durable. He figured out the necessary dished size to let me run on 92-93 octane and got a matched set.

[LTb1ow]

Damn, thats an expensive engine you are running.
Crower > Callies correct?

[kazman]

Damn, thats an expensive engine you are running.
Crower > Callies correct?

I got $4K into the short block unassembled. But it stays together. Crank was like $2k, rods another grand. Had the block drilled for 4bolt mains, align bored, yada, yada, yada. Yes expensive to run 12.0's. Divide the cost by the amount of runs and it then makes sense. Try running you car down the track 1500 times without braking something.

[LTb1ow]

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o4/roadtrip120/Jesselbeltdriveinstall001.jpg


Opti delete mod!

[Pampered-Z]

I got $4K into the short block unassembled. But it stays together. Crank was like $2k, rods another grand. Had the block drilled for 4bolt mains, align bored, yada, yada, yada. Yes expensive to run 12.0's. Divide the cost by the amount of runs and it then makes sense. Try running you car down the track 1500 times without braking something.


Damn, I did the same and came up 1492 passes short! :cbrrmike:

[z28rob18]

http://i116.photobucket.com/albums/o4/roadtrip120/Jesselbeltdriveinstall001.jpg


Opti delete mod!

hows that set up work?

[LTb1ow]

Um you buy a really expensive Jesel belt drive, and use it to turn a dizzy. Then you run a remote waterpump. Simple.

[z28rob18]

Um you buy a REALLY EXPENSIVE Jesel belt drive, and use it to turn a dizzy. Then you run a remote waterpump. Simple.

thats a problem for me

[LTb1ow]

So you buy a 500 dollar MSD opti, a master blaster coil, and 6AL.