GTO

[miketa95]

Soo I was driving past the Pontiac dealership today, on my way to get my 4th alignment this year because my car is a peice of crap, when I saw this for sale...
http://i384.photobucket.com/albums/oo281/MikeTA95/The%20Camaro/gto.jpg

It's really nice, its an 04 with a sunroof, black leather, LS1, auto trans, and a 05-06 hood, with the taller spoiler and the grille insert things. I like it alot, I have a problem with the fact it's an automatic though. it's $15,000 with 56,000 miles. I don't know if I want to go through with it, what do you guys think?

[TronsBird]

if it was an LS2 id say do it no question

im not too keen on LS1 gto's, but if your discontent with your car , and can afford it

im sure a GTO could fill the void

[Blackbirdws6]

Not bad but not great either.

Will it do the job you want it to do? I would stick with a LS2 car if I was buying a Goat but that's personal preference.

[TronsBird]

if you have money to mod it, then you could get it moving, either than that, an LS2 car is just prime meat

but, its nice either way man

[miketa95]

I've driven my friends ls2 6 speed before I did like it a lot, but looking on auto trader it seems like all the ls2's are above 20k. I'm thinking maybe they can bring that price down too, it's a little steep.

[Mike]

personally i wouldn't buy that car..........


gto's weren't available with sunroofs.....someone cut that roof out

[TronsBird]

very good point

[BonzoHansen]

personally i wouldn't buy that car..........


gto's weren't available with sunroofs.....someone cut that roof out

...I agree....pass...

Why can't your car hold alignment??

[LTb1ow]

And no offense, but where do you plan on getting 15k from? I thought you were having a hard time maintaining the TA due to being in financial straights?

[Mike]

And no offense, but where do you plan on getting 15k from? I thought you were having a hard time maintaining the TA due to being in financial straights?

a loan?

[BonzoHansen]

Damn, SNM may be right, lol.

[LTb1ow]

a loan?

Great advice for a kid in college.

[Mike]

i did it

[mtg6486]

i like it now buy

[BonzoHansen]

You have a pretty good job, Mike. I don;t get the impression the OP is in the same kind of situation. Plus being too far in debt as a young adult is usually not a good idea.

[Mike]

Oh boy, a Tsar wannabe.

how? because its easier to pay a loan then come up with the money every time your 15 year old 130+ thousand mile car breaks? your right its a stupid fiscal decision.

and if you want to make personal attacks or be a cool name caller, please pm, or im me. and stop ****ing up threads

[Mike]

You have a pretty good job, Mike. I don;t get the impression the OP is in the same kind of situation. Plus being too far in debt as a young adult is usually not a good idea.

i DID not have this job in college, and i AM NOT talking about now

[BonzoHansen]

Then based on what I have seen too many people go through, good job. Most fail. Realize your experience is not the norm.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Bro your in school, you dont need the payment...Just look for an ls1 fbody for 4-7k. 1/2 the price, same engine and same performance. When i was your age I made the same mistake..and its not fun being broke for your car. Try to sell the Lt1, save a little and buy it cash...At your age full insurance is no fun...My Ls1 is costing me 14 dollars a mth extra because I have the title. Just think about it w/ the payment and full insurance will you still beable to do what you want to the car?

[TronsBird]

you know what, i think i knew the bitch who owned that car

[miketa95]

That's the problem, with a fixed payment and a warranty I could at least know what expense was coming to me and when. With the ta, one month nothing is wrong, the next I'm replacing a list of things. For example, my car has been fine for like two months, then the other day they engine started making all kinds of noise and vibrating and shaking, and i noticed today the outside of my tires were all screwed up and it needed an alignment again. Honestly, I'm tired of the upkeep on the TA, but I really do need a car at the same time. I spent 6k on my TA when I bought it, and over the past 2 and a half years spent about another 6k on repairs. (this post won't help me sell it, thats for sure.)

This really isn't the most practical car I guess, since I do landscaping in the summer I should get a truck, but I work at domino's in the winter, and a car is more practical. I commute to school, so basically a car payment for me is inevitable in the near future. I know I will be getting a car in the coming months, I can't decide what though.

I was unaware there were no sunroofs available for these though, I don't think I'd want a car that was cut into like that. If i don't get a truck, I need a car my dad won't mind driving when I'm using his truck.

[TronsBird]

see what you can get for your car and look around on craigslist and ebay

id look for an LS1 car

they're pretty good stock and are reliable, if they havent had the living crap beaten out of them, and they have a 1st gear lock out for snow , from what ive been told

[miketa95]

And no offense, but where do you plan on getting 15k from? I thought you were having a hard time maintaining the TA due to being in financial straights?

It's more like the car's condition and the list of things that need fixing, combined with the fact the value is like 3k tops and since money is hard to come by as a 20 year old, I wouldn't want to spend it constantly repairing my car. I could justify spending it on a down payment of a car under warranty with lower mileage I could rely on.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Its the nature of these cars...Its always something, especially if you race it...At your age you would be insane to own anything performance wise without owning it outright. I could have went out and bought a 15k ws6 no problem but i know how I am w/ cars. I always wanna do something new to it. I bought the car i have now for 3500 bux w/ a lsx in it w/ around a 100k. Motor still has plently of life and I can still afford to do whatever repairs are needed without effecting my lifestyle...If anything look into a small bank loan...I took 4k out and I pay about 100 bux a mth.

[lastcall190]

FWIW a sunroof could be had as a dealer installed option, correct in NOT coming from GM that way. That is the only constructive input I have. Good luck on your decision.

-J

[NJSPEEDER]

I took out a loan and paid off my first Camaro while in college. Don't see why some one else couldn't do it.

[TronsBird]

i bought my birds straight cash son!

(this would be the reason they are/were in just "eh" condition)

[sweetbmxrider]

hmmm the way the economy/banks are right now, i doubt you would get approved for a loan never mind suggest getting one. you gotta do what you gotta do though.

also, you need to cut a roof to install a sunroof no matter what. so i don't get that argument. if its done correctly, it isn't going to be an issue.

[Mike]

the point is, you wont know if its done right untill the first major storm......and even then since this is someone that will obviously modding the car, its unknown how that giant hole with affect the chassis of the car.

[91chevywt]

In my opinion, as a college student myself, something should go, and you should go after a decent pickup. A truck will be very dependable for you as long as you drive it nice and don't modify it extensively. Then again so can an F-body, but you can't haul your landscaping supplies or pull a trailer with an F-body or GTO. Also, it'll give you something solid you won't be afraid to drive when theres snow on the ground.

Looking at that car, I think for 15K its too good to be true. I'm sure at 56k miles it won't take long before you begin running into problems. Who knows if the car had the piss beaten out of it, or whatever else. Save some money, when you can afford it buy something like that new.

[Tsar]

Um.. I was brought up in this thread, wtf? College kids aren't allowed to have loans?

[miketa95]

I was looking for something more practical, came across a bunch of nissan xterras (05,06) at autolender's in the 15-16k range with 30-40k miles. Anyone own one of these, hear any horror stories, etc?

[TronsBird]

my old gym teacher owned one, he said he liked it, decent mileage, reliable, had room and was pretty good in bad weather

[Kat]

I love my GTO but thye do have their down falls. Like the suspension is crap in them. I've read about 9k mile and less 06's needing struts and stuff. To do it properly you're looking at 2k (thats the later on this summer mod to the GTO) An 04 auto car thats 4.5 years old with that many miles I'd offer 13.5 for it. But it does have some of the SAP stuff. Spoiler and kidney grilles.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

I was looking for something more practical, came across a bunch of nissan xterras (05,06) at autolender's in the 15-16k range with 30-40k miles. Anyone own one of these, hear any horror stories, etc?

Had 2 friends w/ them, inside was cheap, low on power, fuel economy sucked. Good for towing though. I didnt know the history of my one friends but her tranny went. W/ Nissan though if you take care of them it'll run forever.

[Iroc-z86]

as a fellow college student with a car loan....dont do it. or at least make sure its dirt cheap like 200 a month. 15 plus warranty and tax at least 20. so roughly 380$ a month depending on interest rate.. IMO i wouldnt do it, im sorry i did because i have to work more than i used to and miss out on events because i cant afford not to work. but you live and you learn. The only good thing is that my credit score is awesome and i can get approved for a house....but i cant afford one lol


on the other hand, nice car! except the sunroof part. My old car had a aftermarket non dealer sunroof that leaked all the time and because there was no name or anything on it i couldnt find any parts to replace it.

[Crayface]

as a college student myself, only get a loan if u got a good job. My friend had a job and just got fired but still has to keep up payments on his GTI, i wouldnt do it at this time with all this great economy we got going for us

[NJ346]

I'd stay away from the LS1 GTO's. They have grown on me recently, but a car that weighs like 400 lbs more than mine making the same power= not as much fun. I'd get a LS2 GTO or bust. I have seen them in the upper teens and with the economy I'm sure you can find a dealer willing to talk on those prices.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

I'd stay away from the LS1 GTO's. They have grown on me recently, but a car that weighs like 400 lbs more than mine making the same power= not as much fun. I'd get a LS2 GTO or bust. I have seen them in the upper teens and with the economy I'm sure you can find a dealer willing to talk on those prices.

GTO is a much more refined car then the fbody, and ive seen numerous 6spd ls1 versions run low 13's stock.

[7998]

It's a nice car, and I wouldn't sweat it not being an LS2. There about $5k + more for an LS2. That being said I wouldn't spend the money being in college. And if you reservations about it being an automatic now They'll only get worse.

[NastyEllEssWon]

ls2's i heard are harder to tune because of the cpu....also the ls2 is fly by wire iirc and the ls1 gto has a better basis for modding than the ls2

[Mike]

the basis of modding would be the same..other than the throttle body

and they are just as easy to tune, just have to get the software

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

the basis of modding would be the same..other than the throttle body

and they are just as easy to tune, just have to get the software
He took the words outta my mouth :|