If I spent over $20K on drivetrain mods....

[Frosty]

....and only got 401HP to the wheels I'd shoot myself :lol:

Yes, I know it's only a 4 cylinder going through an AWD system but still.....

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/vehicles-sale-non-lsx-powered/1058559-fs-2004-sti-38k-aftermarket-parts-401awhp.html

[miketa95]

that red z06 in the backround is sooo much nicer too.

[lastcall190]

The title and first line of this post was hilarious.

-J

[Frosty]

:lol: I'm surprised no one has responded to the posts on 'tech.

[Saitin]

I think the best part is the picture of his license plate

[cdacda13]

Any more power and pump gas won't do. 400 HP is a lot for those cars. A friend has one pushing that much power, its neck snapping when he floors it.
If I had the money, I'd buy it.

[Scrat's_Camaro]

he'll never sell it for what he's askin

[Teds89IROC]

Any more power and pump gas won't do. 400 HP is a lot for those cars. A friend has one pushing that much power, its neck snapping when he floors it.
If I had the money, I'd buy it.

The point is that 400 hp isn't worth $20 grand. Even if 400hp is a lot for those cars, why waste your money.

[alamantia]

It has a cool CB

[BurninrubberGT]

30-40k for the car
38k parts

80k....coulda bought a z06 or a viper

shoulda went twin turbo

[FBODS4EVER]

no thanks. id spent 3500 for a t/a or formula and add a few mods. if not done already. and save alot of money.....

[Knipps]

The pink rad. cap makes it all worth it!

[maroman88]

will trade for a viper LOL see he got the idea to late

[WildBillyT]

The point is that 400 hp isn't worth $20 grand. Even if 400hp is a lot for those cars, why waste your money.

Exactly. 400hp for $20k is a terrible way to spend your money. I'm not even going to be charitible and call it "investing 20 grand" because I don't think it's a real investment if you know you aren't going to get a return.

[Tsar]

no thanks. id spent 3500 for a t/a or formula and add a few mods. if not done already. and save alot of money.....

Nice ricer argument. One can buy a civic hatch do <30k in mods and whoop some vettes ass at the drag strip. I've seen hatches run low 10's. Does that mean the Civic is better? :rofl: Hey you are saving a ton by buying a honda....

[FIcamaroRE92]

Nice ricer argument. One can buy a civic hatch do <30k in mods and whoop some vettes ass at the drag strip. I've seen hatches run low 10's. Does that mean the Civic is better? :rofl: Hey you are saving a ton by buying a honda....

what kind of vette, stock?

[Knipps]

what kind of vette, stock?
you're missing the point. :|

[FIcamaroRE92]

no, I get the point, just asking

[Tsar]

what kind of vette, stock?
Of course stock. I'm talking about a z06 here too. So take that 75k and spend it on a civic hatch or a 1g awd dsm.... Surely it will be faster in a straight line. I've seen both run low 10's....

[BigAls87Z28]

If you spent that 75k on a Civic and only got 400hp out of it...thats what we are talking about.

[NJSPEEDER]

what kind of vette, stock?

Corvette = 3200lbs
Civic = 2600 if it is completely decked out with every available option

You figure out how they make up the difference.

There are Civics, street legal(plates, insurance, inspection), running low 8's and tempting 7's, just like the Corvette crowd.

[69BirdX]

400hp to an AWD car is alot thats a nasty car

[Tsar]

If you spent that 75k on a Civic and only got 400hp out of it...thats what we are talking about.
Well:

1. I would hope I didn't need that much money to go low 10's in a hatch or a dsm.
2. Personally I wouldn't even spend 20k modding a car, no matter what it was.
3. My response was dedicated to the dude who said he would rather drive his turd gen. I really dislike when people make that stupid ricer analogy. "Duurrr, I can buy a turd gen for 500 bucks and make it 500 horsepower and its the best car in the world"... No not really.
4. Do we know the the Subaru driver was going for all out possible power? and some sweet 1/4 mile times? I doubt it. But if it was his intention than yea, he is pretty dumb. Although it is his money, and he may spend it as he wishes, it is not for me to judge.


:shrug:

[GP99GT]

judging by the suspension, chassis, and other mods...im gonna say its not for drag racing

and i'd liek to see the powerband also, just cuase it doesnt have a high peak HP doesnt mean its not making some sweet power across the board

edit: also note that the injectors are maxed out so its tuned safely im sure...

[FIcamaroRE92]

Well:

1. I would hope I didn't need that much money to go low 10's in a hatch or a dsm.
2. Personally I wouldn't even spend 20k modding a car, no matter what it was.
3. My response was dedicated to the dude who said he would rather drive his turd gen. I really dislike when people make that stupid ricer analogy. "Duurrr, I can buy a turd gen for 500 bucks and make it 500 horsepower and its the best car in the world"... No not really.
4. Do we know the the Subaru driver was going for all out possible power? and some sweet 1/4 mile times? I doubt it. But if it was his intention than yea, he is pretty dumb. Although it is his money, and he may spend it as he wishes, it is not for me to judge.


:shrug:

WTF are you trying to say????
:|

[Knipps]

WTF are you trying to say????
:|
that if you dump enough money into any car you can be better than someone else.

[Tsar]

that if you dump enough money into any car you can be better than someone else.
Correction, you can THINK you are better, but it will be far from the truth. Gutted Civic hatch that runs lot tens is not better than fully loaded C6z which runs slower. At least not to me. Same applies to a turd gen and that STI. Although it is ugly inside too.

[FIcamaroRE92]

I never said anything about a Third gen...............

[Knipps]

I never said anything about a Third gen...............
then it is quite possible he wasn't addressing you. :|

[FIcamaroRE92]

then it is quite possible he wasn't addressing you. :|

whatever, Iam in no mood to argue tonight. :rollseye:

[BurninrubberGT]

400hp to an AWD car is alot thats a nasty car

eh theres a bunch of 1000+ hp skylines that are awd

[Knipps]

no thanks. id spent 3500 for a t/a or formula and add a few mods. if not done already. and save alot of money.....

Nice ricer argument. One can buy a civic hatch do <30k in mods and whoop some vettes ass at the drag strip. I've seen hatches run low 10's. Does that mean the Civic is better? :rofl: Hey you are saving a ton by buying a honda....
No need to argue, the comment wasn't addressing you.

[Tsar]

No need to argue, the comment wasn't addressing you.
I wasn't arguing just pointing out an idiotic comment.

[Knipps]

I wasn't arguing just pointing out an idiotic comment.
and I wasn't talking to you :moon:

[FIcamaroRE92]

My bad, i thought he was talking about me, iam a stupid **** :rofl:

[FIcamaroRE92]

He stated "the dude with the thirdgen" thought he was talking about me....

[LTb1ow]

What, you think your the only one with a turd gen?


;)

[Tsar]

He stated "the dude with the thirdgen" thought he was talking about me....
I was talking to Fbods4ever... I guess everyone did too much assuming :lol:

[BlueGTS]

Lets see he wants to trade a 401awd modded car for a Viper that puts out more wheel stock. I doubt he will be finding many takers. I am sure he will get good money for his car, but there not many Viper owners wishing they had a STI instead.

[Slo86Bird]

if i was to spend 40k itd be on a supra. or a nice 440 for my durango and twin turbo for it and a ton of ****. lol

[GP99GT]

problem is...a **** load of people dont seem to understand that horsepower/peak horsepower isnt the be all end all of a car

[Tsar]

problem is...a **** load of people dont seem to understand that horsepower/peak horsepower isnt the be all end all of a car

Lies, peak horsepower and 1/4 performance are the only things that matter in life!

[BonzoHansen]

Lies, peak horsepower and 1/4 performance are the only things that matter in life!

I was told when you peak you win!
http://www.jonesology.com/nrj_images/Danica_PKLL_web.jpg
^^^by her...

She wouldn't lie to me, would she???

[Tsar]

I was told when you peak you win!
http://www.jonesology.com/nrj_images/Danica_PKLL_web.jpg
^^^by her...

She wouldn't lie to me, would she???
Women never lie ;)

[WildBillyT]

problem is...a **** load of people dont seem to understand that horsepower/peak horsepower isnt the be all end all of a car

Very true. Just do us all a favor and tell the Supra guys that.

In addition, a **** of people seem to throw away money when they are modifying thier cars. I've seen $20k thrown into a vette drivetrain to only get 550 flywheel.

[BlueGTS]

Yeah I guess you guys are right, HP sucks it is so over rated. Fast cars scare me. :rofl:

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Yeah I guess you guys are right, HP sucks it is so over rated. Fast cars scare me. :rofl:

Feel free to give me your Viper then :lol:

[WildBillyT]

Yeah I guess you guys are right, HP sucks it is so over rated. Fast cars scare me. :rofl:

If you can't use the power properly, or your power curve is a big spike then you are pissing away money and performance as it's not a balanced combo.

[JL8Jeff]

$38K worth of mods to a car is pretty hefty. No reason to compare modding car A to car B since the mods depend on the intended use of the car. Road race vs drag race vs drifting vs show car. Seems crazy to dump that much into it and come up way short with the fueling and power though.

[Scrat's_Camaro]

:bunny: the rabbit will out run all of you!!

[79CamaroDiva]

http://www.islanddragway.com/melissa/monkeyfootball.jpg



this is what this thread has come to.

[sweetbmxrider]

that is an amazing looking sti and it was built properly.

It currently makes 401awhp at 6500rpm on pump, tuned by Jorge at P&L. The injectors are maxed out, so more fuel delivery will net this car much more power. There are many ways to get more fuel, so I will not get into specific options. The car is well over built, it can easily handle power greater than 550awhp. The motor can spin to 8,000rpm also.

this car will clearly make great power and be extremely reliable.

[NJ Torque]

he posted the same car over on turbobuick.com and got the same reply... no one was really interested @ his prices. did anyone see the $190 PINK lugnuts???

[sweetbmxrider]

haha no. he does have some dumb stuff listed like arm rest extensions and other crap