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racerx520
02-09-2009, 07:11 PM
this summer im looking to buy a motor for my 87 t/a, it currently has a 305 tpi, but i want to put in a 350 tpi...i called blewett's scrap yard for a price and they coudnt give me one, they said that they sell the minute they get a car with a 350 tpi cuz they are in such high demand that they actually have a waiting list...anyone know about that in other areas than this area? i really want to get a new motor to do some work to it (preferably a long block)

NJSPEEDER
02-09-2009, 07:20 PM
We have sponsors that can build a motor for you if you want something beefy or special.

If you are just looking for a long block to mess with you may also want to look into just getting a GMPP long block. For a fair low price you get an engine that is all new parts and comes with a warranty.

No need to worry about finding an actual TPI motor, at the end of the day it is just a small block. If you look specifically for a TPI motor you are just gonna end up paying extra for the RPO and nothing to do with the actual motor.

racerx520
02-09-2009, 07:58 PM
well i was looking to mess around with something, my father is a mechanic and i was hoping he could teach me about working on a motor...and you dont need a tpi? i thought that you needed a tpi motor for the intake manifold bolt pattern to bolt on to it? so i could pretty much either pick up a long block thats a '72 up to '08 small block and they'd all have the same bolt patterns that would match up for a tpi? kinda doesnt sound right to me...but i will look into it.

also how much would a long block run? i got one price for a long block online not too long ago and it was 200 bucks, anywhere around there or would it be like 2k? lol

NJSPEEDER
02-09-2009, 08:05 PM
The only things that changed were blocks after 1987 having the lugs on the center ridge for the spider for the roller lifter set up. Which isn't that important since they can easily be machined in when the block is cleaned up or you can do it yourself after you get the bare block back from the machine shop with a drill and tap set and a small spacer.

As for the intake bolting up, that has to do with the intake bolt pattern on the heads. Any gen1 SBC head can bolt to any gen1 SBC block, so all you really need to do is pick heads and intake that match one another.

The only other thing that changed was the rear main seal. They went from 2 piece to 1 piece, nothing that makes a massive difference. Both of which you would change anyway if you built a motor

The top end of stock TPI stuff is the same between the 305 and 350, all GM changed was the pph of the injectors and the chip in the computer.

LTb1ow
02-09-2009, 08:09 PM
You should get an LT1 ;)

Then you have cool stuff to learn. Reverse cooling, an opti and cam driven waterpump!

Fun!

racerx520
02-09-2009, 08:09 PM
ok, thanks for the info, and how much do these motors run?

Jared1970Chevelle
02-09-2009, 08:11 PM
350 tpi vs 305 tpi... 350 has like 30 more horse....stock.... so put a good exhaust and k&n and your rite there....

you can get a 305 to go pretty good with a good head and cam combo and still keep the tpi intake....

bubba428
02-09-2009, 08:22 PM
I've got a buddy with a few of them laying around...make an offer

racerx520
02-09-2009, 09:14 PM
well it depends on how much he wants...im looking for like 300-500 to spend on a long block, i wont be able to spend money on getting one till summer if he has them then still...im working a crappy job right now with no hours, inthesummer i'll have a better job and can afford to buy a new motor.

and i have a 305 right now, im not too happy but the main reason why i want to get a 350 is cuz my motor has 160,000 miles on it and i want to get a motor, and rebuild it so it essensially would then have 0 miles on it lol

and about the lt1, yeah ive thought about it, but i dont want to bite off more than i can chew with that, i'd need a whole new computer system and wiring for the car lol, a little bit too much work for me, im 22 yrs old and this is going to be the most work ive done on the car (well, re-painting it was a bit of a challenge too lol) and i think by keeping it a tpi i'd be just keeping it simple

NJSPEEDER
02-09-2009, 09:16 PM
I would suggest talking to some of our sponsors. Many of them keep healthy blocks around and can even get deals on machine work for members.

If you are doing a from scratch build you would do just as well grabbing a good casting from a junkyard for way less than $500, most likely a good amount below $300.

sweetbmxrider
02-09-2009, 09:19 PM
i think my dad's 96 suburban has a 5.7 in it. i could be completely wrong though. 180k on it. i'll check it out.

racerx520
02-09-2009, 10:07 PM
well im thinkin of a new cam anyway, so really all i need is a block and heads.. pretty much everything froma 305 can go ton a 350 from what ive heard a ready and i plan on doin that i think...most of my stuff is good still, but i also would kinda hope to get a motor that i wouldnthave to break down my current motor for lol

NJSPEEDER
02-09-2009, 10:18 PM
If you do the related TPI upgrades to take advantage of a new cam, most of the switch over would be just wiring. Upgrading the intake, injectors, heads, TB, and put in a good cam to pull it all together will make for an engine that is both drivable and powerful. :)

racerx520
02-09-2009, 10:39 PM
thats the plan lol...but unfortunately for now, my bird is my daily driver, its my only means of transportation until i can get a real job and afford a nicer vehicle, so i may havet o find a 5.7 tpi all together and build it up lol

NJSPEEDER
02-09-2009, 10:47 PM
Even once you have the money to do the engine, don't go rushing around to get it all done fast. Take your time, plan, and spend wisely. Don't let the initial excitement compromise the result. If you need an extra thing or two or something costs more than you expected, wait and save so you can do it right. Better to get it done a little behind schedule that to cheap out and have it fail because of a corner cut.

unstable bob gable
02-09-2009, 10:56 PM
Talk to that hillbilly :mrgreen: Josh from JS Performance. Sponsor info on side----------->
He'll price you out something dayum worthwhile, and his work is second to none. Plus the nice thing about dealing with a person and not a junkyard or big place is Josh himself will answer the phone if you have a question. And just take a look at how fast his own stuff is running! :shock: He's DA MAN in my book!!!

racerx520
02-09-2009, 11:02 PM
yeah, i found out why not to hurry with the exterior of the car wheni painted and preped it and stuff lol...some spots im not too much of a fanof how they came out cuz iwas in a hurry but i also didnt have the time or the ability (again, daily driver) to take off every ground effect and stuff to paint them individually so its not as great looking as it could be, but hell...it was my first paint job and i think it came out pretty good lol...ive won 3 trophies with it aleast lol (howell cruise night, ifyou got a nice looking car you get a trophy anyway lol)

but the engine, i was planning on making it a winter project anyway...do it little by little, make sure its all nice...if i can save enough money too i may just try to get a t-56 tranny too and do a manual to auto conversion lol, if and when i pull the motor it should be pretty easy to do a trans swap and i also figure that it will probably be decently easy after building a motor lol

but again, im not gonna rush with it, especially with motors, i dont want to screw up one little thing cuz these motors suck to work on, i found that out whenit took me two days to do headers lol...the smog lines were rusted onto the stock manifolds so i had to get a hacksaw blade and cut each one individually lol, the work wasnt thathard, just took while to get it done lol

NjbadSS
02-10-2009, 12:37 AM
My first car was handed down from my father who passed away and was an 85 TA, looked just like yours. It had a 305 TPI in it and me and my brother swapped it out with a 350. I got one out of a mid 80's chevy truck actually and built it up with cam and heads.. basically a full rebuild of the engine and it was a relatively simple task. You shouldn't have a hard time at all finding a decent running 350 to do the same for your car. Check around and you can definitely find one for 300 or so if you are going to build it yourself. I'll keep an eye out for you and see what I can come across, have a lot of connections with that stuff

LTb1ow
02-10-2009, 08:29 AM
BBC!

racerx520
02-10-2009, 04:45 PM
i checked out online, most of these motors run for about 1.5-2k...i am not willing to spend that much yet lol

NJSPEEDER
02-10-2009, 05:32 PM
Unless you are building a race motor, big blocks are a financial waste of time more often than not.

racerx520
02-10-2009, 05:37 PM
im not planning on a big block...planning on a small block...even drag racing, small blocks are technically more efficient due to weight...but to put a big block in my bird would mean i'd have to get rid of myheaders or my fenders lol...cuz big blocks + headers + third gen f-bodies = fail lol

sweetbmxrider
02-10-2009, 08:02 PM
wouldn't it be a t-5 swap and not a t-56?

LTb1ow
02-10-2009, 08:42 PM
im not planning on a big block...planning on a small block...even drag racing, small blocks are technically more efficient due to weight...but to put a big block in my bird would mean i'd have to get rid of myheaders or my fenders lol...cuz big blocks + headers + third gen f-bodies = fail lol

To continue off topic here, if you can fit a BBC in a 4th gen, I think it will fit in a 3rd gen. :wink:

NJSPEEDER
02-10-2009, 09:05 PM
It's more a matter of what it does to the way the car works. 3rd gens have terrible weight distribution with a V6, putting in a big block is just a mess.

LTb1ow
02-10-2009, 09:12 PM
It's more a matter of what it does to the way the car works. 3rd gens have terrible weight distribution with a V6, putting in a big block is just a mess.


Ah ok, now back on topic.

You can build a budget 383 build.
Do it piece by piece and you should be under budget.
All SBC parts are interchangeable excluding LT1s and LSXs right?

And I mean crank, rods, pistons etc. Obviously flat tappet vs hydraulic is out.

racerx520
02-10-2009, 09:21 PM
eh...i dont really want to do 383...i want to keep it somewhat stock, therefore the350...not really looking to make it into a racing car, just a 350 with some extra pep i.e. the upgraded cam and other smaller parts.

and to answer your question about t-5 and t-56, i did some research when i had to replace my 700r4 and found that t-5's are not compatible with 350's cuz they arent strong enough, t-56's are though.

i would really like to do the engine/tranny swap, but i know it will be quite expensive lol

LTb1ow
02-10-2009, 09:26 PM
IMO if I were doing a rebuild it would be a 383. You will regret it if you don't. Even a 355.

camaroAL
02-10-2009, 09:26 PM
if done right, a budget minded 350-383 will still cost around $6000.00
that includes complete block prep,intake, pan, oil pump, push rods, rotator kit w/ pistons, rods, rings, bearings, and crank. carb, timing chain & gear set, cam, roller lifters, cam bearings, full gasket kit, complete cylinder head re-build, arp bolt kit for everything, water pump, and i believe thats about all. block work would include all the necessary, such as, milling the decks, honing lifter bores, r&r cam bearings, boring , boiling, magna fluxing, adding priority oiling ports, line boring, sonic checking, etc...
cylinder head overhaul would consist of a competition valve job, bronze guides, decking, valve seals, springs, and setting installed heights, etc..... when ur doing something the right way there really is no cheap way out.. just some food for thought if u want reliability!

racerx520
02-10-2009, 10:21 PM
well thats why i want to get a 350 and build it up...right now this t/a is my only means oftransportation, by the time i get done witht he motor (i'll be taking my time to make sure its all right) i should have another vehicle at that point so i dont really mind how long it would cost, and again, i plan on not doin it in a week so cost wise i would consider the 6k and taking a while to do it.

and i dont think i'll regret it if i dont do a 383, there are some pretty tough 350 motors out there...and this isnt going to be a racecar, its going to be a 'restored' car (i have it in quotes cuz its kinda my own vision of restored seeing as how the color isnt stock and i have 4th gen seats in it) but anyway, its goin to be a sorta restored car with more pep than it came with stock...a 383 would be too far out of stock for me i think. i appreciate the thought though.

camaros_4life34
02-11-2009, 05:50 AM
pm sent

camaros_4life34
02-11-2009, 05:55 AM
if done right, a budget minded 350-383 will still cost around $6000.00
that includes complete block prep,intake, pan, oil pump, push rods, rotator kit w/ pistons, rods, rings, bearings, and crank. carb, timing chain & gear set, cam, roller lifters, cam bearings, full gasket kit, complete cylinder head re-build, arp bolt kit for everything, water pump, and i believe thats about all. block work would include all the necessary, such as, milling the decks, honing lifter bores, r&r cam bearings, boring , boiling, magna fluxing, adding priority oiling ports, line boring, sonic checking, etc...
cylinder head overhaul would consist of a competition valve job, bronze guides, decking, valve seals, springs, and setting installed heights, etc..... when ur doing something the right way there really is no cheap way out.. just some food for thought if u want reliability!





not all true i built a 383 for a buddy for less then 3 grand n its still running and its not driving very easily either

NastyEllEssWon
02-12-2009, 12:29 AM
there are tons of t-5's bolted to 350's that hold up fine if gone through well enough.


t56's will also bolt up and is usually the way most people are going now

racerx520
02-12-2009, 05:08 PM
from what ive read, the reason why they never put the t-5 on GTA trans am's and i-roc z28's was cuz they couldnt withstand the power of a 350...t-56's are rated for a lot more power and with the swap i can use the stock torque arm and stock 700r4 driveshaft cuz the t-56 is longer than the t-5, the same lenght as the 700r4

Tru2Chevy
02-15-2009, 07:55 PM
from what ive read, the reason why they never put the t-5 on GTA trans am's and i-roc z28's was cuz they couldnt withstand the power of a 350...t-56's are rated for a lot more power and with the swap i can use the stock torque arm and stock 700r4 driveshaft cuz the t-56 is longer than the t-5, the same lenght as the 700r4

Yes, the stock T-5s are known to break when you flow some real power through them, but they can be built to handle plenty more power.

- Justin

NJSPEEDER
02-15-2009, 08:41 PM
not all true i built a 383 for a buddy for less then 3 grand n its still running and its not driving very easily either

Is that based on getting lucky deals on parts or being lucky that it worked out?

If you wanna do things correctly, machine work and the bottom end components should be $3k easily.

racerx520
02-15-2009, 08:46 PM
well first igotta find a tpi motor for kinda sorta cheap...not looking to spend over 500 for it come summer time...i'd be willing to drive pretty much anywhere in nj, and pretty much be willing to drive to a half state radius lol

but are tpi motors hard to find in nj? i cant seem to be able to locate any junk yards that have any around me, they say theres pretty much a waiting list for 350 tpi's. i know that there are some people on thirdgen.org who seem to make their living by scouring the forums there and then going to the junkyard to find parts and sell them to people...i wasnt sureif there was anyone here that was into that at all lol

LTb1ow
02-15-2009, 08:48 PM
Emolinuoeusussxx has an LT1 with wiring harness for 400.

racerx520
02-15-2009, 09:25 PM
i really like the lt1 and think its great, only thing is that im trying to make this car 'modernized restored' as i like to call it...keep it generally like it iwas in 87 except with a fourth gen wing, more modern paint color, and 4th gen seats...and i wanted the tpi just to keep the 'restored' part of the look goin lol

racerx520
02-15-2009, 09:32 PM
actually now that i keep thinkin about it...an lt1 would be pretty nice lol...more power than a 350 tpi, just not as nice looking in myown opinion...tpi's just have a nice look to them with the whole headered intake....damn, im torn now lol...whats the power difference between the two? cuz depending how quickly i can get the money, i may consider the lt1

LTb1ow
02-15-2009, 09:33 PM
TPI is for crazy people wearing parachute pants. :)

But I would say the both have the same potential.

Tru2Chevy
02-15-2009, 09:34 PM
stock for stock LT1 makes 30 more HP, and has 15 less TQ than a late 350 TPI

LT1 - 275 / 330
TPI - 245 / 345

- Justin

racerx520
02-15-2009, 09:40 PM
hmmm...i think i may just stick with the tpi

and hey, parachute pants arent a bad thing...what if you fall out of a plane? ever think of that?...and i like the look of tpi's, just have a lot more goin on intake wise than the other newer motors, its a nice looking motor i think

NastyEllEssWon
02-15-2009, 10:29 PM
good luck finding a tuner that still tunes tpi motors

racerx520
02-15-2009, 10:42 PM
my dad can im sure...he was a mechanic for two different chevy dealerships from about 80 to 99....he knows a lot about this stuff, used to rebuild motors from vettes and just regular beater f.i. motors for old trucks and stuff he'd get for cheap then sell lol. i think he could do it....im trying to do this as kinda a learning experience.

i did just find a 350 tpi from a vette (only difference from a vette and a camaro/bird is vette has aluminum heads) he wants 400, only thing is i dont have that much money lol oh well, would take the fun out of it seeing as how its rebuilt already lol

camaros_4life34
02-16-2009, 11:36 AM
my buddy has your motor sent you pm

HeadlessNorseman
02-16-2009, 11:46 AM
If you would have listened to the people in the thread, you dont need a TPI specfic 350. You just need to get any old 350 block with pistons, and 86+ heads. Whatever the year is, im not sure. You are going to pay a lot more for a complete tpi 350 that you dont even need. All you need to do is switch to the 350 injectors and 350 ECU. The accessories will all bolt up. Then you wont need to mess with the wiring or anything like that. And what are you goals for this project? Youve said summer project, winter project, now your back to the summer. Make sure you dont need the car for a few weeks when you start. Stuff will happen that you cant plan for. Any why not a 383? The only different part is the crank and rods. If you need a new crank its not worth it to not do it. It doesnt look different on the outside. And you already have different parts on the car trying to keep it looking like its an 87 beyond that is kind of silly. If you want an LT1 go with that if not, dont worry about it. And choosing a motor because it looks cool is just...well a weird reason.

racerx520
02-16-2009, 02:07 PM
well the project part of your post, im tring to save up this summer to purchase it, then work on it in the winter. and i dont want a 383 cuz whats the point? i dont race my car or anything, i just want to more or less make it into a gta clone, i plan on doing some minor ups to the motor like a new cam and that would probably be it lol. i understand what everyone is saying about 'get a 350 block and then just get the heads you need' this car is my daily driver so i cant really afford to spend more time to take off the intake and put iton the new engine before putting it in also, and i also kinda want to sell the 305 for cheap to just kinda get a little money back, although im sure no one would want it lol

and engines looking nice a wierd reason?
http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v134/125/92/81403451/n81403451_30477411_2087.jpg

so this motor above doesnt look nicer and bring out the car more than say.....this motor below?

http://datsun1200.com/modules/myalbum/photos/9978.jpg

NJSPEEDER
02-16-2009, 02:25 PM
You don't need to change the computer to go from 305-350. If the motor is upgraded, just have JSPerformance do a chip for you.

For injectors, you can grab stockers from an LT1 and have plenty of fuel for a mild 350.

As afar as upgrading the heads, you aren't talking about doing anything radical. A quick trip to the junkyard can yield a good enough set of heads for a cruiser engine. If you look at a lot of later LO5 (350 TBI) engines, they actually come with the same head castings as the L98 (350 TPI) you are trying to emulate. It would also have the same intake bolt pattern as your 305, so you can just swap that over.

Really, it all depends on how far you wanna go with it. What I am drawing from what you are saying is that you want a little more pep when you hit the fun peddle and a nice exhaust note at idle. That's a pretty straight forward idea to build on a reasonable budget and expect to last a good long time.

racerx520
02-16-2009, 02:51 PM
What I am drawing from what you are saying is that you want a little more pep when you hit the fun peddle and a nice exhaust note at idle. That's a pretty straight forward idea to build on a reasonable budget and expect to last a good long time.

yeah, thats kinda really it lol...and yes i understand what everyone has said about the heads and everything...let me explain it again, hopefully clarify any issues anyone isnt understanding:

my car is a daily driver, i dont have any other cars that i can use, i dont have a job that i can claim vacation time to just work on the car for a week...i need to either have another car, or have a motor thats all set and ready to go as soon as the motor is done being worked on, it can go in the car, do the work over a weekend. i cannot afford to take the heads off the motor, replace them with new heads and go from there and spend atleast 3 weeks worth of work on the motor, i am planning on doing the engine work over an extended period of time to try to hold onto as much money as i can.

the car is a 1987, i would like to keep MOST of it as 1987 appearing, thats why i didnt put a 4th gen dash in, or center console, or newer style rims, yes i did a spoiler from a 4th gen and seats, but thats it...i dont plan on doing the same with a motor otherwise i'd just save up my money for the next year and get a new vette motor lol

LTb1ow
02-16-2009, 02:53 PM
yeah, thats kinda really it lol...and yes i understand what everyone has said about the heads and everything...let me explain it again, hopefully clarify any issues anyone isnt understanding:

my car is a daily driver, i dont have any other cars that i can use, i dont have a job that i can claim vacation time to just work on the car for a week...i need to either have another car, or have a motor thats all set and ready to go as soon as the motor is done being worked on, it can go in the car, do the work over a weekend. i cannot afford to take the heads off the motor, replace them with new heads and go from there and spend atleast 3 weeks worth of work on the motor, i am planning on doing the engine work over an extended period of time to try to hold onto as much money as i can.

the car is a 1987, i would like to keep MOST of it as 1987 appearing, thats why i didnt put a 4th gen dash in, or center console, or newer style rims, yes i did a spoiler from a 4th gen and seats, but thats it...i dont plan on doing the same with a motor otherwise i'd just save up my money for the next year and get a new vette motor lol


Setting yourself up for a fail man.

racerx520
02-16-2009, 03:29 PM
how do you figure? its less of a fail than not having a car for more than a month...so what if it takes more than a weekend, atleast i'll still have a car while building the new motor

Tru2Chevy
02-16-2009, 04:44 PM
It'll be far easier to pull the 305 and install the 350 without the TPI intake installed anyway. Removing and reinstalling the intake should only take a matter of hours.

- Justin

racerx520
02-16-2009, 05:13 PM
yeah, ive seen cars being installed from the cherrypickers, they always have the intake off so that a plate can be screwed on there, but i may try to sell the 305 when im done with it which is kinda why i wanted to have that all together too...but im still on the fence about that, cuz i dont think many people would want to buy a 305 tpi

Tru2Chevy
02-16-2009, 05:23 PM
You'll prolly find a buyer for a 305 TPI, but the money difference w/o an intake on it is probably not enough to offset the extra money you're going to have to spend to find an actual L98 350 TPI motor, when any 350 with 86+ heads will work for you.

- Justin

racerx520
02-16-2009, 05:44 PM
i will keep that in mind...but i do have to find a motor that has a 4bolt main....i understand most truck motors have only a 2bolt...i will keep in mind the other motor if i cannot find a tpi for a decent amount of time for a reasonable price though. i want to get the motor and start the project by winter so i still have time to shop and primarily to learn about this stuff before making a purchase

LTb1ow
02-16-2009, 05:55 PM
LT4s have 4bolt mains ;)

Tru2Chevy
02-16-2009, 07:03 PM
Camaro / Firebird L98s are only 2 bolt mains, vette L98s are 4 bolt. With your goal of a mildly warmed over street cruiser I wouldn't even bother trying to look for a block with 4 bolt mains - it just isn't needed.

- Justin

racerx520
02-16-2009, 07:28 PM
you sure? my father distintly remembers tearing down motors on these cars when they were new and having 4 bolt mains. either way, im still holding steady on the type of motor that im going to plan on working on. i know that i can use parts from a 68 vette and patch it together with a crank off a 98 dodge and then use some super glue to hold together the honda parts...but i just want a complete motor, i want to work on it, i want to put it in my car, and i want to drive my car...i dont want to get parts that people are getting rid of that i dont know if they even ever worked and spend twice as long working on the motor to try to piece together everything just to find that someone lied about something being in working order

HeadlessNorseman
02-16-2009, 09:11 PM
You dont even need to worry about 4 bolt mains. It doesnt matter. If it has them cool, if not dont worry about it. If you want to find a complete motor, your looking for an l98 motor. Thats a 350 TPI. Your going to have to track down parts, fix stuff, and replace stuff. Trying to avoid that is impossible, Its going to happen. Based on your level of knowledge and experience, you definatley should look for a 2nd car before doing this. Im speaking from experience. Ive tried to DD project cars before and it just totally sucks.

racerx520
02-16-2009, 10:02 PM
well i mean im partially hoping that my fathers knowledge will fill the huge gaps that im missing when it comes to working on cars lol....he knows a lot about this stuff, used to put motors in his trucks from pieces of other motors that he'd work on...he pieced together parts from a k-5 blazer to put into his 91 pickup once. he was the one who told me that these motors are supposed to have 4 bolt mains as they were found in performance cars, 2 bolt mains were generally for trucks and normal cars...im gonna try to research the topic though, see what this haynes manual says atleast lol

racerx520
02-16-2009, 10:09 PM
nope nothing in chilton about how many bolts for the crankshaft....oh well lol

camaros_4life34
02-16-2009, 10:22 PM
idk your dad could be right but based on my knowledge that ive noticed over the yrs every engine i ever rebuilt that came out of a truck was a 4 bolt main and the 2 bolts were in the cars

WildBillyT
02-16-2009, 10:24 PM
idk your dad could be right but based on my knowledge that ive noticed over the yrs every engine i ever rebuilt that came out of a truck was a 4 bolt main and the 2 bolts were in the cars

I don't know about the 3rd gen stuff (year range) but the 60s and 70s truck motors I've had (4 of them) were all 4 bolt mains.

camaros_4life34
02-16-2009, 10:29 PM
I don't know about the 3rd gen stuff (year range) but the 60s and 70s truck motors I've had (4 of them) were all 4 bolt mains.

the only 2 bolt main engine i ever took out of a truck was 2 wheel drive it was an 89 chevy 1500 so maybe its 4x4s that came with the 4 bolts idk i just know from my experience on them it ight be something they started doin in the 3rd generations :-?

racerx520
02-16-2009, 10:33 PM
i dunno either...i think by truck he meant just your basic run of the mill 1500 pickup with nothing special at all...he made it a point to say that more along the line of high performance motors have the 4 bolt main....too bad i just missed it, someone near me was selling a vette motor all polished up (tpi fully assembled) for 400...just missed it by a couple days lol

HeadlessNorseman
02-17-2009, 04:16 PM
4 bolts went into big heavy duty stuff. bigger trucks, usually 4wd, 2500 and 3500s, and corvettes. I dont think(not 100%) the f body ever got a 4 bolt 350 from the factory, because there was no need.

LTb1ow
02-17-2009, 04:40 PM
LT4 has em....

HeadlessNorseman
02-19-2009, 12:18 AM
LT4 has em....

We are talking about SBCs and third gens

racerx520
02-19-2009, 10:28 PM
i think in these 3 pages the original question was never answered lol............................................... ...


is it hard to find a 350 tpi in central jersey area? or am i just looking in the wrong junk yards?

HeadlessNorseman
02-21-2009, 11:11 PM
i think in these 3 pages the original question was never answered lol............................................... ...


is it hard to find a 350 tpi in central jersey area? or am i just looking in the wrong junk yards?

Jesus...YES they are hard to find. thats why they are more expensive. And you dont need one. You already have the "TPI" part you just need the "350" part to go along with it. Have you done anything in this thread besides argue everyones answer?

racerx520
02-22-2009, 12:06 AM
actually if youve read the thread, you'd realize that i said that i agree that i could get the heads off another car, BUT!!!! this car is my daily driver, i cannot afford a truck, honda, toyota, or even a ****ing GEO...i have to build something, thentake time off work to put it in. that is why im looking for a complete engine, preferably a 350 so thati dont have to spend 500 on a 305, then hunt down 350 heads for another 150-200 just to take the old 305 heads and throw them out...i dont see how this is so hard for people to concieve

you dont take your house with all of your furniture inside and say 'screw it, i want a new house!' demolish the thing and then wait for a year or two for a new one to be built while you live in the abandoned lot!


and again, i'll state what i said above so people dont have to argue back at me....

350 tpi= less work then going out to get a 305, then 350 heads, then the distributor off a 72 datsun, then get the crankshaft from a 02 toyota, then get some silly puddy and make myself a damn exhaust system!

and yeah, im sure you guys know what youre doing, im sure that you guys have plenty of experience/time to work on a project motor, i dont, and i dont have any experience short of doing valve seals in my car, my father has a lot of experience but he's not always around to help.


thanks for those of you who tried to answer my questions rather than just stating the way YOU would build an engine on YOUR time

Knipps
02-22-2009, 12:27 PM
OR you could just not start the project til you have all the parts :idea:

WildBillyT
02-22-2009, 04:49 PM
OR you could just not start the project til you have all the parts :idea:

I agree.

RacerX- If you are under this tight a time/$ limit you might not want to kick this off. If you run into a problem then you will really be hosed.