DAYTONA 500 RACE

[baddest434]

once again it's kick off for NASCAR. i'll be hoping JR or TRUEX can pull off a victory. how about you? your pick?

oh and save the nascar sux jokes ok. there old!

[Mike]

vickers.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/ba/Brian_Vickers_2008_Red_Bull_Toyota_Camry.jpg/800px-Brian_Vickers_2008_Red_Bull_Toyota_Camry.jpg
but the outlooks not looking great with the 80% chance of thunderstorms

[Tsar]

I wanted to see the new camaro... when does it start? I'm tired of them yapping away....

[baddest434]

vickers.

but the outlooks not looking great with the 80% chance of thunderstorms

that figures:evil:

[baddest434]

I wanted to see the new camaro... when does it start? I'm tired of them yapping away....

it says 2pm that is if it's not rained out.

[Tsar]

it says 2pm that is if it's not rained out.
Holy COW! I cant watch that much nascar coverage. thanks for the heads up :lol:

[deadtrend1]

I am going to be routing for Truex

[Mike]

lol its hard for fans to watch these talking heads

[87GTA]

i pick Jeff Gordon!!!!! i think he just might do good this year from what he did at the 150's and the shoot out!! GO GORDON #24!!!!!!!!!! and i think his new paint on the car is awsome!!

[GP99GT]

i'll be watching hockey :lol:

[baddest434]

i'll be watching hockey and drinking :lol:

some how i knew that matt:wink:

[GP99GT]

rangers flyers at 12:30, devils sharks at 3...turns into a solid 5+ hours of hockey watching

[Mike]

what channel is devils/sharks? vs?

[jraney]

Coverage is at 2, green flag waves at 3:30 weather permitting. I hope Tony Stewart, Dale Earnhardt Jr., Jamie McMurray, and Mark Martin do well today since they are my picks in the NASCAR Pool for this race.

[GP99GT]

what channel is devils/sharks? vs?

nay, MSG+

[Mike]

hmm time to check my fios schedule

edit, i get it, thanks for the rain delay/ caution option

[BurninrubberGT]

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/6349/38772811wx8.jpg

nuff said

[NJSPEEDER]

A caution because it rained this morning? Seriously?

What a bunch of pussies.

[Featherburner]

A caution because it rained this morning? Seriously?

What a bunch of pussies.Right...200mph and they're pussies. OK.

[bandit88]

i'm routing for truex..... he's in the back again ..... yey

[NJSPEEDER]

Right...200mph and they're pussies. OK.


Yes, stopping because it rained in the past makes them pussies. Bad enough there is no other racing to watch, they have to take a break because the lawn is wet from 4 or 5 hours ago.

[Featherburner]

Yes, stopping because it rained in the past makes them pussies. Bad enough there is no other racing to watch, they have to take a break because the lawn is wet from 4 or 5 hours ago.

It's called safety but you don't care. You're not out there driving.

[baddest434]

It's called safety but you don't care. You're not out there driving.

timmy's mad because there is no F1 race on today :lol:

i believe it was a safety caution to check on the tire wear.

[JW]

Eh I don't watch the skittles go around the toilet... err... I mean nascar :-P

JW :D

[Tru2Chevy]

http://www.jayski.com/schemes/2009/cup/24dupont-front.jpg

Leading now.... :w00t:

Would also be happy to see Mark Martin win it.....

- Justin

[BurninrubberGT]

200mph+slicks+water=disaster

[Tru2Chevy]

200mph+slicks+water=disaster

The track was perfectly fine. Goodyear, once again, brought a crap tire.....guys have been complaining about right rears all week, and it all came to a head yesterday when Newman popped one and took out himself and Tony Stewart, forcing them both into backup cars for today.

- Justin

[NJSPEEDER]

It's called safety but you don't care. You're not out there driving.


Is there something inherently unsafe about going around a dry racing surface that wasn't a problem last week, last month, or last year?

[LTb1ow]

Getting dizzy?

[baddest434]

Is there something inherently unsafe about going around a dry racing surface that wasn't a problem last week, last month, or last year?

Goodyear, once again, brought a crap tire.....

- Justin

maybe that :shrug:

[Z28 Heritage]

LOL Dale JR sucks

[Tru2Chevy]

LOL Dale JR sucks

I'm not watching (at work w/o TV) but it sounds like Vickers came down on him.

- Justin

[Mike]

****ing earnhardt takes out half the field and they wont dare give him a penalty

yesterday leffler did that **** and got a 5 lap penalty, give one to jr too nascar

[NJSPEEDER]

Vickers caused that accident. That block was wwwaaayayyyyyyy late and completely uncalled for.

By the wording of the rule Jr. is indeed at fault for not "blending" back in safely, but Vickers really started the problem.

I still question this idea of "out of bounds", if you don't want them to drive there DON'T PAVE IT!!!!

[Mike]

I'm not watching (at work w/o TV) but it sounds like Vickers came down on him.

- Justin

vickers blocked the "yellow lines" and instead of backing off and coming back up legally, he turned right and took vickers and half the field out

[Mike]

the entire move would have been below the out of bounds line that YOU bitched about tim...

[BurninrubberGT]

i officially love jr
vickers needed that, you block like that, your getting wrecked, plus its a little payback from when vickers wrecked jr on the last lap at talladega
and he took out the toyota's, sucks that mcmurray got caught in it though


and does anyone else think dw is way too for toyota, its annoying


and i want to correct my other post-
200mph+goodyear tires=disaster :rofl:


edit: busch is a little prick

[NJ346]

haha....Nascar...geh

[Mike]

i officially love jr
vickers needed that, you block like that, your getting wrecked, plus its a little payback from when vickers wrecked jr on the last lap at talladega
and he took out the toyota's, sucks that mcmurray got caught in it though


and does anyone else think dw is way too for toyota, its annoying


and i want to correct my other post-
200mph+goodyear tires=disaster :rofl:


edit: busch is a little prick


he took out his teammate too, reasoning for that one?

your post couldnt be any more typical btw.

[LTb1ow]

You can block?

[NJSPEEDER]

Yes, NASCAR uses the "one move" rule.

[baddest434]

well JR is my favorite driver but i gotta say that sure looked like he caused that crash.

[NJSPEEDER]

I doubt it was intentional, but that is of course what a lot of people are going to say. Really, drivers don't spend a lot of time in the car worrying about pay back or anything else.

It is compounded by the fact that it is really really hard to see out of these cars. There are tubes and pads going in every direction and the seats are set vry very low.

Did Jr. cause the contact, yes. Was it his intention, I strongly doubt it.

I place more of the blame on the late block that created the situation. Legal or not, throwing a late block is just asking for trouble.

[baddest434]

oh no RAIN!! i'd hate to see it end this way especially w/48 laps to go.

[NJ346]

what a great ending.:rollseye:

[NJSPEEDER]

ehhhh, If they started the race at 1 instead of starting the hours of prerace BS they would have gotten it in.

[Tru2Chevy]

They pushed the start time back a few years ago for a "more exciting finish under the lights"

- Justin

[Fleetwiz]

Disappointing to say the least...Lost my taste for Nascar a couple years back...

[maroman88]

stupid rain.... this is the only race ill watch all season, happens every year, once it gets nice out whose guna sit inside and watch that all day sunday???

[baddest434]

stupid rain.... this is the only race ill watch all season, happens every year, once it gets nice out whose guna sit inside and watch that all day sunday???

exactly it's nascar's "superbowl" of races and it ends like that.
i'll watch the races from talledega though. there always interesting.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

anybody make a left turn?

[Featherburner]

anybody make a left turn?

Vickers. :rofl:

[mc73nova]

damn rain

[edpontiac91]

WOW, WHAT AN EXCITING FINISH. THE CAR THAT WINS LEAD 1/2 LAP. Another suck ending. NASCAR really is getting old fast. The #18 (Camery) had the whole field covered, just like last year. You mean to tell me that after all the testing and money spent during the off season, NOBODY could figure out how to get ahead of Kyle's M&M Camery! :moon: :bs:

[Mike]

WOW, WHAT AN EXCITING FINISH. THE CAR THAT WINS LEAD 1/2 LAP. Another suck ending. NASCAR really is getting old fast. The #18 (Camery) had the whole field covered, just like last year. You mean to tell me that after all the testing and money spent during the off season, NOBODY could figure out how to get ahead of Kyle's M&M Camery! :moon: :bs:

there was no testing in the off season this year......and last i checked, if kyle was in the lead he would have missed that wreck

[edpontiac91]

there was no testing in the off season this year......and last i checked, if kyle was in the lead he would have missed that wreck

Sorry for misinformation. He WAS the man to beat IF he had not been taken out of the race by an earlier wreck. Plus Jr. was trying to make up some time because he missed his PIT box AGAIN. He was later heard saying all the PIT signs looked pink, but hell, all the other 42 drivers had the same things to look at. At that level of racing, those mistakes should not happen!

[NJSPEEDER]

Yeah, no one should ever make mistakes and a lot of "what if's" win races from the bleachers. Who could have or should have won any race on any given day is meaningless, it is only about who actually won.

Lead 500 miles or the last 5 inches, only leading the last time across the stripe gets the prize.

[BurninrubberGT]

he took out his teammate too, reasoning for that one?

your post couldnt be any more typical btw.

when? which teamate did he take out? please share

and typical?
vickers had it coming
busch rips on everyone he see's, he acts like he's the perfect racer
since mikey has gone with toyota thats all dw care about
typical my ass


WOW, WHAT AN EXCITING FINISH. THE CAR THAT WINS LEAD 1/2 LAP. Another suck ending. NASCAR really is getting old fast. The #18 (Camery) had the whole field covered, just like last year. You mean to tell me that after all the testing and money spent during the off season, NOBODY could figure out how to get ahead of Kyle's M&M Camery! :moon: :bs:

thats daytona, the one who dominates never wins lol



great to see matt win, but ya if it started at 12 or 1, would have easily got it in....but thats ratings i guess

[wretched73]

hey at least the new camaro looked sexy.... and i won $15 :)

[baddest434]

when? which teamate did he take out? please share

the crash that JR had ahand in took out jimmy johnson iirc

[Mike]

when? which teamate did he take out? please share

and typical?
vickers had it coming
busch rips on everyone he see's, he acts like he's the perfect racer
since mikey has gone with toyota thats all dw care about
typical my ass


easy, put on the replay and watch his wreck collect jimmie johnson.

vickers had it coming? your saying he has been waiting 2 years to collect revenge on somthing? your crazy.

and yes typical, jr lovin toyota hatin typical.

[jims69camaro]

hey at least the new camaro looked sexy....

that's all i was looking for...after the first few minutes (and the typical yellow flags) there really weren't any real good shots of it, anyway. i'm waiting to hear if they are going to reproduce any or if they'll let yet another easy one get away from them... :rolleyes:

[BurninrubberGT]

he didnt take out johnson, johnson spun by himself, he even said on the radio "chad i just did a perfect 360 and kept it going, pretty good"

and if you throw a block like that, you better expect to be wrecked, if it was kyle busch instead of jr i would of backed busch


i hate import companies, im an american car guy, so sue me


not typical, im not even a jr fan, hell im barely a nascar fan anymore

[WildBillyT]

when? which teamate did he take out? please share

and typical?
vickers had it coming
busch rips on everyone he see's, he acts like he's the perfect racer
since mikey has gone with toyota thats all dw care about
typical my ass




thats daytona, the one who dominates never wins lol



great to see matt win, but ya if it started at 12 or 1, would have easily got it in....but thats ratings i guess

I've seen 2x4s with more personality than Matt Kenseth.

[NJSPEEDER]

he didnt take out johnson, johnson spun by himself, he even said on the radio "chad i just did a perfect 360 and kept it going, pretty good"

and if you throw a block like that, you better expect to be wrecked, if it was kyle busch instead of jr i would of backed busch


i hate import companies, im an american car guy, so sue me


not typical, im not even a jr fan, hell im barely a nascar fan anymore

Do you think transitioning off of the banking onto the flat apron was good for the splitter? Those cars are not set up to take big, tire off the ground bounces. He wasn't any sort of factor after the spin.

There is one body template for all brands to follow and the parts have nothing to do with who's stickers are on the sheet metal. Get over the import vs domestic thing, it's not 1985 anymore.

Picking and choosing who is right or wrong in an incident based on who is involved makes you a lot more like a typical NASCAR fanboi than an actual racing fan. In racing everyone wrecks, at some point they are the victim, at some point they are the cause, doesn't matter what your name is.

[Mike]

i officially love jr

not typical, im not even a jr fan,

make up your mind

[jraney]

Do you think transitioning off of the banking onto the flat apron was good for the splitter? Those cars are not set up to take big, tire off the ground bounces. He wasn't any sort of factor after the spin.

There is one body template for all brands to follow and the parts have nothing to do with who's stickers are on the sheet metal. Get over the import vs domestic thing, it's not 1985 anymore.

Picking and choosing who is right or wrong in an incident based on who is involved makes you a lot more like a typical NASCAR fanboi than an actual racing fan. In racing everyone wrecks, at some point they are the victim, at some point they are the cause, doesn't matter what your name is.

+1 on that

[firehawk1120]

haahha it's funny to me to read alot of the comments here. I'm not a die hard but since footballs not on and I hate baseball and basketball, and Hockey is EH, i watch if I'm not working. 1st Kyle Busch lead alot of the race in his normal fashion like in 2008 unfortunately he got smushed in the wreck so what he did the previous 100+ laps is irrelevant outside of the fact that other teams know he's still the # 1 toyota or car for that matter to beat.

2nd as far as the no passing rule I think that either needs to be changed or the yellow line needs to be reinforced with a concrete wall like it is on the right side of the track. if you don't want people passing make it so they can't. Don't say if your car is faster and you go to rip past someone who is all the way up in the middle of the track they have the right to drop down in front of you and make you slow down because the yellow like is out of bounds and you can't advance if your below the line. Oh yeah and when you're going 200 mph out of bounds please make sure it's safe to move back in line of the other 41 cars doing 200 mph so you don't crash.

I know kyle did the same thing last year and everyone was saying good for him block blah blah blah. Only difference is a wreck didn't happen but it's still cheap driving if a car is faster you should have to let them pass, cars that are a lap down usually move out of the way of the lead lap cars don't they????

If Jr. tapped him for a cheap move then he desrved to get bumped. Gotta expect that to happen and realize you are going to cause a HUGE wreck because of the position and # of cars behind you. Most people watch for the wreck anyway.

and as for the rain issue if they knew it was going to rain they should have started earlier. It takes 2 hours to dry the track according to what I've read so if it rained early on they had time to dry it and start early so it could have been run in it's entirety. BUT, if of course because of tv rights and sponsors complaining BS they had to wait then sorry driving in the rain at 200 mph on slicks is just stupid and anyone who says they should do it is being immature because they want to see people die or get really hurt or find more accidents to complain about.

Hell boxers shouldn't wear gloves over the tap the tap should have shards of broken glass in it make it a bloodsport, football players can't wear helmets, pad or cups be men. come on gimme a break.

[nj85z28]

IMO, the cars to beat were Gordon ,Stewart and Jr. Carl Edwards and Johnson looked terrible, and it was only a matter of time before Kyle Busch wrecked himself or got wrecked.

[BurninrubberGT]

Picking and choosing who is right or wrong in an incident based on who is involved makes you a lot more like a typical NASCAR fanboi than an actual racing fan. In racing everyone wrecks, at some point they are the victim, at some point they are the cause, doesn't matter what your name is.


what are you talking about? i said it didnt matter who was behind vickers, it was vickers fault. in any other racing series they would have seen that as an uneccesary block and would have penalized vickers (if he was still running), dont say im not an actual racing fan, i live for racing, the only reason why i still watch nascar is because ive met matt kenseth a couple times and i follow him and mark martin is one of my favorite drivers across the board. i watch every ALMS, nhra, rolex, koni, f1 race, scca races on speed, championship offroading, austrailian v8, occasionally a1 gp, formula d, lucas oil on the edge, autocross, occasionally motogp, WRC.....dont say **** about me when you dont even know me



make up your mind

it was a joke


everything i post has to be ****ing argued, let me tell you it makes for great entertainment

[firehawk1120]

everything i post has to be ****ing argued, let me tell you it makes for great entertainment

didn't you know the internet tough guys know you better then you, and they can do everything you can do better then you, and their dad's can beat up your dad. At least you have a good sense of humor about it.

Do what I do and use the ignore feature the word is the beginning of the word ignorance which is the type of people you shouldn't pay attention to esp. some of the ones on here who really have nothing better to do all day then argue. Wise man once say never argue with an idiot from a distance people can't tell the difference.

[Mike]

eh its only a race that happened 3 days ago, they are in California now, new arguments to be had