busted

[DevilDougWS6]

haha yeah i got pulled over for doing 61 in a 40 im a jackass.

oh well im just curious if anyone knows how much this ticket costs? he wrote it up as a 39:4-98 which is up to 14 mph over, so its a 2 point ticket but i dont know how much it costs. even though i was doing 14-29 over which is a 4 point ticket. and he set the court date for may 20th.....and ill be in Iraq haha, so im going to call the clerk tomorrow to see if i can get it changed.

so if he wrote it wrong (should be a 39:4-99) what does that mean? ive never been to court for a ticket and i have 0 points on my license, so any input would be appreciated.

[maroman88]

39:4-98 is speeding, then they can check off the amount over the limit, just call up to find out the amount, but according to a tickt im looking at now it says on the back 10-14mph over is 95$, but its about 2 years old

[DevilDougWS6]

oh thats not too bad. i have to call anyway about the court date.

but if he wrote it up as a 39:4-98, but wrote in the offense description "speeding 61 mph in a posted 40 mph zone" (which should be a 39:4-99) does that affect anything?

[madness410]

shouldnt set you back too much. if you do go to court im sure you could talk the prosecutor down.

did you tell the police officer that you were in the service?

[DevilDougWS6]

shouldnt set you back too much. if you do go to court im sure you could talk the prosecutor down.

did you tell the police officer that you were in the service?

yeah i told him i was going to be leaving for iraq may 18th. he told me to call the court clerk.

but again if he messed up on the ticket and wrote the wrong statute, does it get dropped, do they just charge me with the statute number, or the offense description? id rather have no points on my license and just pay the fine, but i know i did wrong and would just plead guilty.

[NJSPEEDER]

All of that would be discussed at court. They can throw out the ticket for certain kinds of mistakes, but not everything.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Yea just show up, talk to the prosecuter if you have a clean record they'll throw the points out but the ticket will be more expensive.

[DevilDougWS6]

called the clerk and my court date is now april 29th. can anyone give me a quick walk through of how this going to court thing works? i have never been and was hoping to keep it that way. what should i say to the prosecutor?

[GP99GT]

well you go to court, sign in, they call each person one by one to talk to the prosecutor(as long as you make your plea of not guilty before you go!) then you tell the prosecutor whatever you feel will help you (clean record, in the service, etc etc) and go from there...usually they will lower the offense.

[DevilDougWS6]

ah ok. that helps a bit. i was just going to plead guilty but with his mistake maybe i can get the points dropped atleast. and maybe only pay like $100 instead of $200.

[NJSPEEDER]

Even if you end up paying a few extra bucks, the points cost you more money in the long run. Just be honest with them and say you were int eh wrong, you accept that, and just let them know you would prefer to avoid the points so that you have a clean driving record when you get back from your deployment. 99 times out of 100 they are understanding and cool with it. Even if it costs you a few extra bucks now, it will save you a ton on your insurance when you get home.

[DevilDougWS6]

so i can say "i did it, i know i was being stupid" even if i plead not guilty? doesnt really make sense but alright.

[SuperSweet]

dont say that you did it and all that..been through this too many times lol. Most of the prosecutors i've delt with didnt even take the time to hear what I had to say. Just be like look...I keep your freedom, hook a brotha up!

Or, lol, they will see your clean record and just give you a break and a decent fine, usually upwards of $200.

[BigAls87Z28]

How the hell did they give you a ticket? USMC doesnt pay off like it used too.

[NastyEllEssWon]

How the hell did they give you a ticket? USMC doesnt pay off like it used too.




it shouldnt when it comes to breaking the law.

[madness410]

from what i hear most police officers use CPR: courtesy, professionalism, and respect. i respect anyone serving in any service

[DevilDougWS6]

hes a DOD cop though, they deal with dumbass soldiers all day. did i mention this was near ft monmouth? i probably forgot but oh well. i could care less about paying, as long as its not like $1000. but i really dont want the points.

and how can i NOT admit that i did it? im an honest person but i wont **** myself over.

[LTb1ow]

Bahah you be screwed, thats a federal ticket man.

[Triple-A]

Last time I was in court judge told everyone that we have right to have 0 points twice in five years.

Good Luck!
Alex.

[CamaroGirlie]

i think he was giving u a break if he cited u for only going up to 14 mph over the speed limit...thats what happened when i got pulled over....i was doing 105 in a 55 and he cited me as doing 90 in a 55 i wasnt gonna dispute it since it helped me out

[DevilDougWS6]

i think he was giving u a break if he cited u for only going up to 14 mph over the speed limit...thats what happened when i got pulled over....i was doing 105 in a 55 and he cited me as doing 90 in a 55 i wasnt gonna dispute it since it helped me out

the statute number he wrote was for UP TO 14 MPH OVER. but in the description he still wrote 61 in a 40.

[CamaroGirlie]

i believe the statute number is all that the judge gets not the written comments. I doubt it will be thrown out because of what he did since the statute is lower then what u should have gotten and i wouldnt cause a big stink cuz then the judge might change it to the 4 point ticket.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

well you go to court, sign in, they call each person one by one to talk to the prosecutor(as long as you make your plea of not guilty before you go!) then you tell the prosecutor whatever you feel will help you (clean record, in the service, etc etc) and go from there...usually they will lower the offense.
There ya go right there.....

[DevilDougWS6]

i may just go in, plead not guilty, and hopefully like said above the prosecutor only gets the statute number and ill try to get 0 points instead of 2 for that particular statute and pay a little extra.

[DaSkinnyGuy]

maybe $439

[DevilDougWS6]

439?! thats a little more than i want to spend.

[NJ Torque]

Yup... they'll knock you down... be prepared to spend 500+

[sweetbmxrider]

its around $400 for unsafe operation, which you can only do twice in 5 years. not sure about the whole ft monmouth thing. plead it down via plea bargain with the prosecutor. don't nit pick the ticket, thats why pencils have erasers. trust me. stop speeding!

[DevilDougWS6]

yeah. i dont speed that much though. lol only when i have a nice empty road, i kind of just got up to a cruise speed but didnt pay attention to the signs. oh wellll.

[Tru2Chevy]

439?! thats a little more than i want to spend.

Unsafe is what most tickets are reduced to so you can keep your 0 point status, and it generally runs between $400 and $500, depending on court costs and such.

Talk to your insurance company and see if they'll raise your rates for the ticket you got....if you trust yourself to stay out of trouble for a while, it may be cheaper to just pay the ticket and accept the points.

- Justin

[DevilDougWS6]

well ill be leaving for iraq in may so i think i can stay out of trouble for a while. how long does it take for 4 points to go away, just out of curiosity?

[LTb1ow]

2 points every year? I thinlk?

[DevilDougWS6]

blah. well if the prosecutor only gets the statute number then im only getting 2 points. so i dunno if its worth fighting. what happens if i dont tell my insurance company? lol

[ShitOnWheels]

Court depends on where you are going. When I went, I walked in, and got in line to talk with the prosecutor. When I spoke with him, all he did was "you did x, I can drop it to y or z, which is a and b cost...which do you want?" I didn't say a word other than I wanted unsafe and "thank you sir." Then I sat in the court room and waited for my name to be called. I stood in front of the judge, he detailed the offense, asked me a question about it, then said the prosecutor agreed to drop it to unsafe, do you plead guilty to the new offense willingly etc etc?

Just make sure you bring cash/check. The court I went to didn't take credit card, and I was kind of banking that they would. He let me go to bring him a check the next day, but it might have something to do with I'm female, married, and clean driving record for 9 years, and I was extremely polite. There was a younger male who didn't have the clean record and wasn't as polite, and the judge decided he wasn't going to let him go til the next day, he had to scrounge up the money that night if he didn't want to spend the night in jail.

[ShitOnWheels]

blah. well if the prosecutor only gets the statute number then im only getting 2 points. so i dunno if its worth fighting. what happens if i dont tell my insurance company? lol

Prosecutor gets everything on the ticket I'm pretty sure. But they may go by what the cop wrote as the statute.

[sweetbmxrider]

well ill be leaving for iraq in may so i think i can stay out of trouble for a while. how long does it take for 4 points to go away, just out of curiosity?

2 points every year? I thinlk?

3 points every year free of moving violations and suspensions. your accumulated points can not go below 0.

you should call the courts asap though and tell them about your deployment. you may have to higher a lawyer to act as an affidavit on your behalf. you could request a written affidavit where you write a letter explaining how you are not guilty, but that is usually for out of state residents. call them up and ask a bunch of questions!

[DevilDougWS6]

3 points every year free of moving violations and suspensions. your accumulated points can not go below 0.

you should call the courts asap though and tell them about your deployment. you may have to higher a lawyer to act as an affidavit on your behalf. you could request a written affidavit where you write a letter explaining how you are not guilty, but that is usually for out of state residents. call them up and ask a bunch of questions!

i already called the court clerk and got my court date changed to april 29th. did i not post that?

[79T/A]

At first I was horrified to see that a cop would write an active duty Marine, on his way to Iraq, ANY ticket. Then I saw the part about Fort Monmouth and understood. The majority of the population they serve are service men and women. Not as easy for them to give breaks. Still, sucks rhino and if you'd have been stopped by me, you'd be asked to slow down, thanked for your service and given best wishes for a safe return from the desert.

As stated above, bring cash to court. If they have any heart at all, they MAY reduce it to "Causing risk of accident" (Part of the "Delaying Traffic" statute, 39:4-56) but in all liklihood, they'll hit you with "Unsafe Operation" which, sadly, will cost between $420 and $450 as stated above.

And since I didn't stop you, thank you for your service and be careful over there!

[sweetbmxrider]

i already called the court clerk and got my court date changed to april 29th. did i not post that?

unless you are counting this post, NOPE! :mrgreen:

[Tru2Chevy]

unless you are counting this post, NOPE! :mrgreen:

Try again: http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showpost.php?p=549081&postcount=8

- Justin

[sweetbmxrider]

Try again: http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showpost.php?p=549081&postcount=8

- Justin

see i have this thing about reading post 8.....:oops: :banghead:

[DevilDougWS6]

haha, pwned!

[ryanfx]

just go in there and ask the prosecutor to plead to unsafe driving. He will probably drop all the points and its a 450 dollar fine.