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BigAls87Z28
02-19-2009, 03:13 AM
Cant sleep, so its time for the military channel's lists of greatest wepons. They are talking about the greatest fighters.
Can someone tell me why the F-117 is still considered a fighter plane? Its really just a neat-o plane. Its more of a marvel of technology then anything else. It has no gun, cannot go supersonic, no air to air abilities, and carries two bombs? If anything, its like a concept car. Debuts cool technology that will hopefully be used in future models. Its stealth technologies are obsolete now with aircraft using smoother surfaces and not jagged sharp lines to deflect radar.
Before I was a car nut, I was a plane nut. What is your favorite fighter plane?
Outside of the F22, the F/A-18 Superhornets are hawt!!
I also like the clean and sleek lines of the F-86 Saber. Id love to have one if I was a multi billionare.
TAdan
02-19-2009, 07:23 AM
As far as the F-117 goes, the F designation was mainly added to keep it's true role a bit more hidden. Your right it isnt much of a fighter, it would be more realistic if it was called the F/A or just A. They were first used in Grenada, but didnt go public until Desert storm. EIther way it dosent matter much anymore as most of them are retired and in moth balls. I think a couple are still flying doing R&D work.
The Raptor is nice and so is the SuperBug, but I am into warbirds. I love the P-40's specifically the early models.
EchoMirage
02-19-2009, 08:04 AM
P-51D mustang
alamantia
02-19-2009, 08:09 AM
There is still an F-86 saber in Monroe Ny, they built it into a slide, pretty cool if you axe me.
LTb1ow
02-19-2009, 08:12 AM
Valkyrie.
misterjuice
02-19-2009, 08:17 AM
F4 Phantom II. very intimidating looking plane.
Nothing is better than SR-71. :nod:
LTb1ow
02-19-2009, 08:24 AM
I beg to differ.
XB-70 FTW.
1. Looks like Concorde :lol: - no go.
2. The top speed of Vakyrie doesn't even match the cruising speed of the Blackbird.
But anyways different strokes for different folks. Neither of them are fighter planes though :lol:
LTb1ow
02-19-2009, 08:39 AM
I thought the XB was supposed to eclipse the speeds on the SR? That is, until they decided to blow up and all....
In 1966 XB-70 reached Mach 3.06 and flew at Mach 3 for 32 minutes...
Blackbirds cruising speed was Mach 3.2.
LTb1ow
02-19-2009, 08:54 AM
Ah, still looked cooler. ;)
7pointoh
02-19-2009, 08:57 AM
I'd say the F-14. Only because it was used as a true interceptor. It can be armed with ground attack stuff but it's role was simply Air to Air.
Ah, still looked cooler. ;)
If you prefer the look of Concorde, sure! :lol:
TAdan
02-19-2009, 09:23 AM
I thought the XB was supposed to eclipse the speeds on the SR? That is, until they decided to blow up and all....
The Valkyrie was designed as a high speed bomber. The SR-71/A-12 was a recon aircraft. None of the Valkyries blew up. One is on display at the NMUSAF in Dayton OH, the other was destroyed during a a mid air collision with an F-104. The F-104 was flying a bit too close in formation and lost control because of a vortex coming off of the XB-70's wing.
TAdan
02-19-2009, 09:25 AM
There is still an F-86 saber in Monroe Ny, they built it into a slide, pretty cool if you axe me.
Thats kind of like taking an F-body out of the junkyard and turning it into a jungle-gym...
88Z-Man
02-19-2009, 09:26 AM
F14 and F15 awesome jets
And the Phantom.
There is still an F-86 saber in Monroe Ny, they built it into a slide, pretty cool if you axe me.
Like this?
http://english.boisestate.edu/lzaerr/images/axelo.jpg
WildBillyT
02-19-2009, 09:47 AM
I'd say the F-14. Only because it was used as a true interceptor. It can be armed with ground attack stuff but it's role was simply Air to Air.
I agree. When somebody says "fighter" I think F-14.
SR-71 is awesome but it's no fighter.
Anybody ever go to the Udvar-Hazy museum in Dulles, VA? Coooooool stuff there. Like an SR-71, and the Enola Gay.
jims69camaro
02-19-2009, 06:24 PM
MiG-35D
it's nice to be patriotic, but when there is better technology you have to acknowledge it.
MiG-35D
I'm personally a bigger fan of SU-37 Terminator, that thing looks badass! :lol:
alamantia
02-19-2009, 06:40 PM
Fokker Eindecker
HeadlessNorseman
02-19-2009, 07:03 PM
I was also into military planes and tanks and crap when i was younger. My favorite has always been the f8 crusader. In the few games ive played with it, it was also my favorite. And there pretty impressive in person too. Last of the gunfighters :)
BigAls87Z28
02-19-2009, 07:08 PM
SR-71 was supposed to be a fighter plane for the CIA.
SR-71 is a great plane, but not a fighter.
Mig 29 always looked cool to me, but the F14 and F15 were great fighter interceptors. I love the F14's long distance Pheonix air to air missle.
I also have a soft spot for the A-6...
SR-71 is a great plane, but not a fighter.
Post 9 and 19 :lol:
It's still my favorite aircraft of all time! :mrgreen:
alamantia
02-19-2009, 07:21 PM
Snoopys Dog House was pretty bad ass too
BigAls87Z28
02-19-2009, 07:51 PM
Post 9 and 19 :lol:
It's still my favorite aircraft of all time! :mrgreen:
I know, I saw. I just wanted to say it too.
Tru2Chevy
02-22-2009, 05:28 PM
F-14 is my favorite fighter for sure....I've also always liked the A-10
- Justin
ar0ck
02-22-2009, 06:01 PM
I've always been a huge fan of the A-10 & a bigger fan of the AH-1 Zulu Super Cobra :drool:
http://rickardandersson.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/10/ah-1z.jpg
^ definitely wrong thread...
ar0ck
02-22-2009, 06:13 PM
^ definitely wrong thread...
Why not it can carry stinger air-air missiles. :lol:
Fine Fine... Vought F4U Corsair:
http://www.vbf-85.com/Beautifully%20Restored%20Corsair.jpg
Z28 Heritage
02-22-2009, 10:16 PM
F-4 Phantom! A-10 is not a fighter.
FIcamaroRE92
02-22-2009, 10:19 PM
BF-109G FTW
bubba428
02-22-2009, 10:44 PM
I like the F-15 my self. But the A-10 is baddest mofo EVA, vulcans are sexy...
Tru2Chevy
02-22-2009, 10:47 PM
Best Fighter Ever!!!
http://www.losanjealous.com/img/airwolf.jpg
:D
- Justin
bubba428
02-22-2009, 10:51 PM
whats with the f'n rainbow?
Dilley
02-23-2009, 07:46 PM
that is what is really at the end of rainbows no pot of gold with leprechauns just a modified Bell 222
WildBillyT
02-23-2009, 07:48 PM
Best Fighter Ever!!!
http://www.losanjealous.com/img/airwolf.jpg
:D
- Justin
Can I wear the eye patch?
Dark_Knight7096
02-23-2009, 08:13 PM
I have always been partial to the F-14s and F-15s myself. Now if we want to talk Helicopters AH-64 FTW
Tru2Chevy
02-23-2009, 08:16 PM
I have always been partial to the F-14s and F-15s myself. Now if we want to talk Helicopters AH-64 FTW
Airwolf would pwn the crap out of an Apache :nod:
- Justin
Dark_Knight7096
02-23-2009, 08:17 PM
oh, and THIS (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AC130) > A-10 Warthog
Dark_Knight7096
02-23-2009, 08:17 PM
Airwolf would pwn the crap out of an Apache :nod:
- Justin
not if Chuck Norris were flying.
twozs
02-23-2009, 10:39 PM
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh155/stinsonz/Focke-Wulf_Fw_190_050602-F-1234P-00.jpg heres one can you name it? BTW the black bird is not a fighter it a reconnaissance plane with no arms on it at all
twozs
02-23-2009, 10:43 PM
helicopters aren't fighters they are ground support gun ships and are easily brought down with a rpg or even small arms ground fire http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:J6FbUzQX_vcJ:en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fighter_aircraft+fighter+planes&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=6&gl=us
who cares what that is? some allied fighter shot it down after that picture
twozs
02-23-2009, 10:49 PM
how about this one http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh155/stinsonz/me262_01.jpg
BTW the black bird is not a fighter it a reconnaissance plane with no arms on it at all
you cant be serious....
ar0ck
02-23-2009, 11:21 PM
They actually produced the SR-71 originally as the YF-12 which was a high speed nuclear bomber interceptor armed with rockets.
BigAls87Z28
02-23-2009, 11:30 PM
http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh155/stinsonz/Focke-Wulf_Fw_190_050602-F-1234P-00.jpg heres one can you name it? BTW the black bird is not a fighter it a reconnaissance plane with no arms on it at all
FW190...and now your link says it so that makes it easier...dur
FW190 was a tank with wings. Surprisingly as agile if not more so then the ME 109.
how about this one http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh155/stinsonz/me262_01.jpg
ME 262 First operational jet powerd fighter plane. First one was shot down by John Glenn.
Z28 Heritage
02-24-2009, 12:12 PM
Choppers? The coolest chopper is the legend UH1 Huey gunship......badass!
Slow-V6
02-24-2009, 12:43 PM
From working on the F14,FA 18, and F4 in the navy I would say the best is the F14. It is the fastest and can carry the Pheonix missile!! The coolest thing is seeing a F14 passing between a Aircraft carrier and a Destroyer while only 50 feet off the water!! Another cool thing is seeing a Tomcat pass by the ship at over 1500 mph!! Simply amazing!!
5.7TA
02-24-2009, 04:56 PM
F-16 and F-22 Raptor IMO but then Im not exactly :| either
HeadlessNorseman
02-24-2009, 05:28 PM
This may be off topic, but are they any good modern fighter games? i had one of those janes games back in the day with like 8 or 9 or 10 planes, russian and american, it had the harrier, the f14, the f8 crusader, and a few others. Any good ones out? Just reading boxes and websites its hard to tell
Edit: The game was called jane's USNF 97. It is probably still worth checking out i guess.
5.7TA
02-24-2009, 06:02 PM
This may be off topic, but are they any good modern fighter games? i had one of those janes games back in the day with like 8 or 9 or 10 planes, russian and american, it had the harrier, the f14, the f8 crusader, and a few others. Any good ones out? Just reading boxes and websites its hard to tell
Edit: The game was called jane's USNF 97. It is probably still worth checking out i guess.
Off Topic but Falcon 4.0 is great.
twozs
02-24-2009, 07:22 PM
you cant be serious....
quite serious! remember google is freind of the uniformed The Lockheed SR-71 was an advanced, long-range, Mach 3 strategic reconnaissance aircraft developed from the Lockheed A-12 and YF-12A aircraft by the Lockheed Skunk Works. The SR-71 was unofficially named the Blackbird, and called the Habu by its crews. Clarence "Kelly" Johnson was responsible for many of the design's innovative concepts. A defensive feature of the aircraft was its high speed and operating altitude, whereby, if a surface-to-air missile launch were detected, standard evasive action was simply to accelerate. The SR-71 line was in service from 1964 to 1998, with 12 of the 32 aircraft being destroyed in accidents, though none were lost to enemy action http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR-71_Blackbird#Specifications_.28SR-71A.29 find where it says its a fighter or it has any weapons systems so again yes in serious, and yes im right
twozs
02-24-2009, 07:31 PM
They actually produced the SR-71 originally as the YF-12 which was a high speed nuclear bomber interceptor armed with rockets. they only built 3 and they were armed with air to air missiles not nuclear warheadshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_YF-12
Slow-V6
02-24-2009, 07:58 PM
This may be off topic, but are they any good modern fighter games? i had one of those janes games back in the day with like 8 or 9 or 10 planes, russian and american, it had the harrier, the f14, the f8 crusader, and a few others. Any good ones out? Just reading boxes and websites its hard to tell
Edit: The game was called jane's USNF 97. It is probably still worth checking out i guess.
Ace Combat on Xbox 360 was pretty good. Also Tom Clanceys Hawkz is suppose to be good!!
5.7TA
02-24-2009, 08:13 PM
they only built 3 and they were armed with air to air missiles not nuclear warheadshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_YF-12
a lot of this information is good I would like to post this from a website that is considered IMO to be a more credible source than widipedia.
"The SR-71 was designed by a team of Lockheed personnel led by Clarence "Kelly" Johnson, at that time vice president of the company's Advanced Development Projects, known as the "Skunk Works." The first version, a CIA reconnaissance aircraft that first flew in April 1962 was called the A-11. Upon retrofitting with J-58 engine, it was designated the A-12. An interceptor version was developed in 1963 under the designation YF-12A. A USAF reconnaissance variant, called the SR-71, was first flown in 1964. The A-12 and SR-71 designs included leading and trailing edges made of high-temperature fiberglass-asbestos laminates which among other features contributed to their reduced radar signature. Its existence was publicly announced by President Lyndon Johnson on Feb. 29, 1964, when he announced that an SR-71 had flown at sustained speeds of over 2000 mph during tests at Edwards, Calif."
[URL="http://www.fas.org/irp/program/collect/sr-71.htm"]
Thank you for the great information on the SR-71. I personally find this a/c to be one of the more amazing jets to fly the air.
quite serious! remember google is freind of the uniformed The Lockheed SR-71 was an advanced, long-range, Mach 3 strategic reconnaissance aircraft developed from the Lockheed A-12 and YF-12A aircraft by the Lockheed Skunk Works. The SR-71 was unofficially named the Blackbird, and called the Habu by its crews. Clarence "Kelly" Johnson was responsible for many of the design's innovative concepts. A defensive feature of the aircraft was its high speed and operating altitude, whereby, if a surface-to-air missile launch were detected, standard evasive action was simply to accelerate. The SR-71 line was in service from 1964 to 1998, with 12 of the 32 aircraft being destroyed in accidents, though none were lost to enemy action http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SR-71_Blackbird#Specifications_.28SR-71A.29 find where it says its a fighter or it has any weapons systems so again yes in serious, and yes im right
WOW... REALLY???!?!?!
way over your head....
you mean wikipedia and google have top secret clearance and know everything that was aboard the plane?
HeadlessNorseman
02-24-2009, 09:44 PM
Its not a fighter because it wasnt designed to fight other aircraft even if it can or not. You could out maneuver that plane with a cesna
Wow, people who continue to argue are dumb :lol: Keep, going.... :rofl:
twozs
02-25-2009, 07:56 AM
Wow, people who continue to argue are dumb :lol: Keep, going.... :rofl: seems to be keeping you interested(like shiny objects)
BigAls87Z28
02-25-2009, 10:43 AM
Is it me or does the new F35 JSF look like a bad plane for the navy? Single engine and one plane for all forces...
TAdan
02-25-2009, 11:41 AM
FW190...and now your link says it so that makes it easier...dur
FW190 was a tank with wings. Surprisingly as agile if not more so then the ME 109.
ME 262 First operational jet powerd fighter plane. First one was shot down by John Glenn.
The same "first american to orbit the earth" John Glenn? If so, I doubt he flew his Corsair over to Europe from the Pacific and knocked down a 262...
5.7TA
02-25-2009, 12:13 PM
Is it me or does the new F35 JSF look like a bad plane for the navy? Single engine and one plane for all forces...
I think that this airframe has many advantages that each branch will be able to take advantage of. Each Airframe could be configured based on branch requirements. It is similar to F-22 but with joint services requirements in mind.
seems to be keeping you interested(like shiny objects)
I love shiny objects and clueless people. I still think they have no idea what I'm referring too :lol:
jin1481
02-25-2009, 09:18 PM
the f-35 also has vtol and stol capabilities, thats why john mclane was able to surf one in die hard 4
BigAls87Z28
02-25-2009, 09:22 PM
The same "first american to orbit the earth" John Glenn? If so, I doubt he flew his Corsair over to Europe from the Pacific and knocked down a 262...
Sorry...Chuck Yeager, sorry.
TAdan
02-26-2009, 07:34 AM
Sorry...Chuck Yeager, sorry.
Chuck Yeager didnt shoot down the first one either.
He is quoted as saying something like "I shot down the first Jet I ever saw." :wink:
Looks like it was Maj. J Myers on August 28, 1944 in his P-47... :)
http://www.wwiiaircraftperformance.org/p-47/er/78-myers-28aug44.jpg
Knipps
03-02-2009, 11:23 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUACSCxZdgE
all I have to say on the matter
Savage_Messiah
03-03-2009, 04:25 PM
I've always been partial to Protoss Carriers.
alamantia
03-12-2009, 11:22 AM
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/Riverside2007/Highlights/RiversideZero07.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/Riverside2007/Highlights/index.html&usg=__j5q9i-zjCUw5onWL4_ru-fSStFQ=&h=692&w=980&sz=36&hl=en&start=28&um=1&tbnid=Lq1LC5PAsKlHzM:&tbnh=105&tbnw=149&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmitsubishi%2Bzero%26ndsp%3D20%26hl%3D en%26sa%3DN%26start%3D20%26um%3D1
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