View Full Version : Details...and pricing of the G8 Firehawk
Blackbirdws6
02-21-2009, 07:16 AM
FAIL....
http://www.slp-firehawk.com/pr/Firehawk%20Press%20Release.pdf
18,995 for
supercharger
exhaust
cai
suspension
flat black hood and grill
spoiler
rims
badges
car cover
portfolio
dash plaque
floor mats
headrests
4,995 extra for upgraded brakes
Soooo the price tag is: msrp: 34,100
Firehawk package 23,990
total: 58,090.00
Frosty
02-21-2009, 07:47 AM
Yeah I'm sure SLP will sell a ton of those :rolleyes::rofl:
1QWIKBIRD
02-21-2009, 07:58 AM
You'd think for the 20k, they include the whoooaaaaa to compliment the goooooo and the suspension upgrades. I love how they include all the silly paperwork line by line like its some sort of big deal, that' crap. I hope they sell a boat load, but don't sign me up. For 60k I can think of many other cars I'd rather own or just have a pile of cash in my bank account, that's always nice too.
Frosty
02-21-2009, 08:38 AM
I just copied your price breakdown and posted it in the Firehawk sticky in the G8 part of the board on ls1tech. I can't wait for the responses.
Damn $58k??? It's a shame SLP decided to go forward with this, for their sake. I don't think they will sell many considering a new G8 GXP is $38k. I mean $58k is appoaching CTS-V money. But what do I know
BonzoHansen
02-21-2009, 09:35 AM
Inb4BIGFAILURE
I think SLP already failed. So you are late. LOL
I think SLP already failed. So you are late. LOL
You had to piss in my cheerios, didn't you? :lol:
BonzoHansen
02-21-2009, 10:08 AM
Yes. Yes I did.
BigAls87Z28
02-21-2009, 10:19 AM
Well it better make about 500 in order to ask that kind of money. A new CTSV is the same price.
NJSPEEDER
02-21-2009, 10:19 AM
Wow.
And this pricing is on the heals of SLP announcing that they don't plan to sell any of the Firehawk parts separately. Even in a good economy I don't know how many they can move at that price, much less now.
BonzoHansen
02-21-2009, 10:43 AM
Well it better make about 500 in order to ask that kind of money. A new CTSV is the same price.
..and that is a prettier car....
Knipps
02-21-2009, 10:46 AM
Well it better make about 500 in order to ask that kind of money. A new CTSV is the same price.
:nod: That's exactly what I was thinking when I saw the price... GL SLP :rofl:
LS1Hawk
02-21-2009, 10:48 AM
Wow :shock: And people complained a 4th gen Firehawk was overpriced.
NJSPEEDER
02-21-2009, 10:53 AM
Well it better make about 500 in order to ask that kind of money. A new CTSV is the same price.
It is supposed to be north of 500 to the wheels.
It is supposed to be north of 500 to the wheels.
I'd still take the CTS-V :shrug:
BigAls87Z28
02-21-2009, 11:11 AM
Yeah ill take the caddy. Way more stuff in the cts such as the magnetic shocks.
Featherburner
02-21-2009, 04:26 PM
FAIL....
total: 58,090.00
:rofl::rofl::rofl:
ar0ck
02-21-2009, 05:15 PM
I'm sure you can do all of that to a GXP for less.
madness410
02-21-2009, 05:19 PM
ctsv > g8 firehawk. 60,000 for that? somebodys mom made them a fail sandwich for lunch today.
BurninrubberGT
02-21-2009, 05:28 PM
mallet charges less than that for all this into a solstice
400 HP V8 LS2 Engine - Rated at 400 HP @ 6,000 RPM and 400 LB-FT @ 4,400 RPM
360HP Rear Wheel
LUK Pro Gold Clutch Assembly
Mallett Custom Modified Lowered Shocks
Performance Springs
Polyurethane Rear Control Arm (A-Arm) Bushings
Polyurethane Differential Mount Bushing
Corsa Stainless Mufflers
Custom 2-core Aluminum Radiator
Carbon Fiber Coil Covers, Black
World famous Mallett body graphics
Mallett graphics embroidered on seat headrests
Show Car Detailing
Mallett serial number plaque and badging
2-year 24,000 mile warranty
^^rather have that, plus the solstice is cheaper msrp
Fast92RS
02-21-2009, 05:54 PM
For 58k Id rather buy a vette.
NjbadSS
02-21-2009, 06:15 PM
wow this is a bit to much.. I agree it is a bad move for SLP considering the hurting economy..and the fact that most people for this price tag would rather buy a c6 Z06.
NJ Torque
02-21-2009, 07:37 PM
wow.... goin down the tubes, eh.
NastyEllEssWon
02-21-2009, 08:10 PM
Wow.
And this pricing is on the heals of SLP announcing that they don't plan to sell any of the Firehawk parts separately. Even in a good economy I don't know how many they can move at that price, much less now.
totally
BurninrubberGT
02-21-2009, 09:05 PM
if they knew the g8 community, they would have created a package that includes a ecm/tcm tune, cai, LT headers, xpipe, and axleback...since thats what everyone does anyway
but the price of everything doesnt surprise me, they want $420 for axle back straight pipes that you can have done by your local shop for $80 lol
BigAls87Z28
02-22-2009, 10:44 AM
http://image.motortrend.com/f/aftermarket/slp-reveals-the-pontiac-g8-firehawk-reinstates-legendary-nameplate/10635338+cr1+re0+ar1/pontiac-g8-firehawk-teaser.jpg
or
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2318/2241921226_c6600be546.jpg
BonzoHansen
02-22-2009, 10:53 AM
B :nod:
WildBillyT
02-22-2009, 11:40 AM
I hereby dub it the SLP FailHawk.
Fast92RS
02-22-2009, 12:09 PM
I hereby dub it the SLP FailHawk.
I second that.
I hereby dub it the SLP FailHawk.
Can we get a photochop? :lol:
madness410
02-22-2009, 06:38 PM
I hereby dub it the SLP FailHawk.
third that. failhawk ftl
Frosty
03-03-2009, 08:39 PM
Hank from SLP just responded to the price bashing. :D
Hank from SLP just responded to the price bashing. :D
Link?
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/pontiac-g8-2008-2009/989909-confirmed-slp-firehawk-g8-discuss-46.html
NJSPEEDER
03-03-2009, 09:16 PM
Do you have to buy a G8 GT and then ship it to them for the conversion or will it be like the previous Firehawks that were available through dealership order? The way he phrases the part about price shopping with discounts is a bit confusing. Any dealership that is selling such a low production, special edition of a car is not going to be anxious to offer discounts.
Wasn't there also something about GM bringing in a very limited number of G8's this year? I wonder what that is going to do to SLP's production schedule.
Seemed like decent response from a businessman :shrug: Still don't like the car though.
LTb1ow
03-03-2009, 09:33 PM
Seemed like decent response from a businessman :shrug: Still don't like the car though.
Agree, seemed to say things correctly.
Saitin
03-03-2009, 10:41 PM
still a stupid idea to to assign a legendary name such as that to a another car.
Same thing every other company does just milking something good until every one is sick and tired of it.
BurninrubberGT
03-03-2009, 11:07 PM
yes we have sold many Firehawk G8's already
:bs:
lets see, you can talk a dealer down to about 24k-26k new gt, then add 3-5k in NA work and you have a solid 12 sec car, or spend 7k on a intercooled s/c or TT kit, then 2k on exhaust, and 500 on a tune, faster than a firehawk
so, 35-40k for a s/c or TT g8 that runs 11's :twisted:...or a 58k for g8 with some diffrent paint and a s/c that runs 12.6 :rofl:
lingenfelter did it the right way, performance pack (intercooled s/c, intake and such) for 11.5k, thats a good price for 500 hp
theres no way they are selling these things
BigAls87Z28
03-03-2009, 11:31 PM
Firehawk being a legendary name is stretching it. Its a name tied in with SLP, not with GM. SLP can sell Firehawk G3's if they want.
ar0ck
03-03-2009, 11:46 PM
Lingenfelters G8GT was shown & reviewed in this months Car & Driver. I believe as tested price was $56k for something like 500+HP.
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/roto-fab/G_71.jpg
:bs:
lets see, you can talk a dealer down to about 24k-26k new gt, then add 3-5k in NA work and you have a solid 12 sec car, or spend 7k on a intercooled s/c or TT kit, then 2k on exhaust, and 500 on a tune, faster than a firehawk
so, 35-40k for a s/c or TT g8 that runs 11's :twisted:...or a 58k for g8 with some diffrent paint and a s/c that runs 12.6 :rofl:
lingenfelter did it the right way, performance pack (intercooled s/c, intake and such) for 11.5k, thats a good price for 500 hp
theres no way they are selling these things
dont wave the flag if you dont have any facts to back it up. it is a FACT that they have orders already, i dont know how many it takes to consider it "many" but they have sold cars
WildBillyT
03-04-2009, 10:00 AM
Firehawk being a legendary name is stretching it. Its a name tied in with SLP, not with GM. SLP can sell Firehawk G3's if they want.
Absolutely. It's not a ledgendary name to most people. Just a few.
BigAls87Z28
03-04-2009, 10:22 AM
Its going to be faster, better handling, better quality, and offering more functonality then any Firehawk in its short past.
Same argument that the new Camaro is not a Camaro because it doesnt do something that the old one does, when it does everything better by a large margin.
i look at it this way........
every year the firehawk has existed, it was the pinnacle performance car available with Pontiac badging. so as long as this g8 lives up to THAT standard (which it does) than i have no gripes with the name
still a stupid idea to to assign a legendary name such as that to a another car.
Same thing every other company does just milking something good until every one is sick and tired of it.
Business is about $$$, not cute and cuddly feelings.
Frosty
03-04-2009, 12:58 PM
i look at it this way........
every year the firehawk has existed, it was the pinnacle performance car available with Pontiac badging. so as long as this g8 lives up to THAT standard (which it does) than i have no gripes with the name
Eh, I think it lost that pinnacle title with the LS1 4thgens, they're not really anything better than a WS6 IMO.
I think the actual mods that the G8 Firehawk have are great and it IS a big upgrade over the regular G8(can't really say that about the LS1 T/A Firehawks, a hood and some suspension pieces aren't a big deal).
I just think the price is ridiculous.
BurninrubberGT
03-04-2009, 01:05 PM
Lingenfelters G8GT was shown & reviewed in this months Car & Driver. I believe as tested price was $56k for something like 500+HP.
http://i291.photobucket.com/albums/ll297/roto-fab/G_71.jpg
thats with everything, like slp's, but they offer just a s/c package, with all you need for 11.5k, like slp should
MonmouthCtyAntz
03-04-2009, 01:19 PM
Tech guys are going nuts over there about it being called a firehawk. I can understand.
NJSPEEDER
03-04-2009, 02:51 PM
Business is about $$$, not cute and cuddly feelings.
Exactly. SLP is in a position to market a high performance version of a car GM is allowing them access to and I have no doubt they will move units, I just wonder if it is a viable mass to pay for all the R&D, marketing, and production costs at this point.
It's not like 500hp is terribly hard to find in that price range, so coming in with a niche vehicle may be a tough sell when the competition has a 100k warranty compared to your 36k miles. I see that as a massive dividing line.
The arguments of "I can do blah blah blah for cheaper" are also a pile of crap. Let's see you do whatever and still have a new car warranty. Comparing a new car to a home brew new car to a hot rodded used car is not a level playing field no matter how you want to slice it. You may as well talk about picking up the $500 3rd/4th gen V6 and spending 40k on mods, yeah it will be fast but it still ain't a new car.
jims69camaro
03-04-2009, 09:22 PM
Business is about $$$, not cute and cuddly feelings.
that's it in a nutshell.
jims69camaro
03-04-2009, 09:41 PM
picking up the $500 3rd/4th gen V6 and spending 40k on mods, yeah it will be fast but it still ain't a new car.
if you push the price tag north a little bit, you can end up with most all, if not all new parts in a 25 year old uni-body. but it still ain't a new car, with a new car warranty.
most of, if not all, the R&D is done. they own the prototype car. while this is not true in all instances (they are currently looking for a stock c6 for some R&D), they get off cheap if all they have to do is spend labor and a few discounts versus the pricetag of a new car plus the labor... not to mention the brain stew that is behind the modifications - that doesn't grow on trees.
i think it's more appropriate to say that most people would not have the idea for such a car. then the wherewithall to make the appropriate changes to the car to get the desired performance level all keeping the manufacturer happy enough to foot the bill for warranty work on the car. there is a big difference between that and taking an older car and dropping a motor in it (or making some other modification to it in your backyard). i don't buy that anyone, save a few well aged speed shops, could pull off something like that with a new car. none of the parts for the supercharger exist outside of the supercharger itself. that means making or modifying an intake, bringing a new belt in or modifying a serpentine belt to run the thing and the brackets... and where is it going to get the oil to keep it lubricated and... that's not even all that needs to be done for the SC, then you have to think about the proper modifications to the chassis in order to get the new power to the ground (you didn't think that it was just a supercharger, did you?)... and... and... it's outside the grasp of most people to even come up with the idea of modifying a new car to bring it to that performance level. copying what's already been done (like the guy who says he could build the exact same thing for less) doesn't count because it's not going to have the warranty (which might not seem like a lot to most people, but if you have one of the unfortunate cars that lean heavily on the warranty you'll be glad it has one)...
DevilDougWS6
03-08-2009, 10:19 PM
it looks ok....but their ad for "0-60 in 4.3 seconds and quarter mile in 12.6"?????!!!!!!! with "500hp" haha what a TURD.
xrelapse13
03-08-2009, 10:48 PM
it looks ok....but their ad for "0-60 in 4.3 seconds and quarter mile in 12.6"?????!!!!!!! with "500hp" haha what a TURD.
yeah seriously, wtf?? 500 hp to trap 115? thats pathetic....:moon:
but the ligenfelter one ran a 12.8.................so there goes that argument
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/automotive-news-media-press/1078673-car-driver-performance-file-lingenfelter-pontiac-g8.html
NJSPEEDER
03-08-2009, 11:33 PM
12.6 on plain old street tires, trying to put down that kind of power, in a heavy car(heavier than stock) doesn't sound too bad to me. The car is set up with a little better handling and still supposed to have a stockish ride, not exactly a 1320' killer as delivered.
DevilDougWS6
03-09-2009, 12:24 PM
very true...but im still not impressed.
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