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Blackbirdws6
03-13-2009, 06:42 PM
I briefly recall hearing some stories about a turbo 3.1L Camaro. This the car?

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Turbo-31-Camaro-From-Hell_640912.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Turbo-31-Camaro-From-Hell_640913.htm

qwikz28
03-13-2009, 06:50 PM
thats his tag name, street lethal

LTb1ow
03-13-2009, 06:59 PM
The half turbo charged six banger guy?

project89
03-13-2009, 07:02 PM
actually thats not me on streetfire but it is my car.
and the car is being dynoed tommorow

Street Lethal
03-13-2009, 09:37 PM
thats his tag name, street lethal

.... thats not my car. ;)

Mike
03-13-2009, 10:03 PM
.... thats not my car. ;)

funny...color is the same, color of the hood is the same, and the windshield banner is the same

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee127/strngedaysNdeed/randomnats/lethal.jpg

19 seconds into the second video....same car you had at the nats

Tsar
03-13-2009, 10:21 PM
Detective mike strikes again!

Time for a career change?

project89
03-13-2009, 10:27 PM
wow u ****ing idiots are dumb,
i already posted ITS MY CAR
not street lethals

look up 1badv63rdgen on street fire, and then check the comments on street lethals vids of my car



2 completly different people
he just happened to be the one filming when i took the car out for those 2 9psi test runs to see if the block repairs we made were gonna hold up for the dyno tommorow

Mike
03-13-2009, 10:29 PM
ok, leave the ****ing idiot **** to your redneck friends, your the one that hasnt gotten the picture every other time you have logged into the site......

and make up your mind

NJSPEEDER
03-13-2009, 10:30 PM
So you guys made exact copies of each others rides down to the stickers and not bothering to paint the hood? Both happen to be gnarly supa bad ass turbo 6cyls too?

Even if it isn't your car currently, it much too closely resembles the vehicle that became the punch line of many jokes on several sites with an owner that got himself chased off of several sites for massive amounts of shadyness.

Tsar
03-13-2009, 10:33 PM
This thread has potential.


:popcorn:

project89
03-13-2009, 10:38 PM
So you guys made exact copies of each others rides down to the stickers and not bothering to paint the hood? Both happen to be gnarly supa bad ass turbo 6cyls too?

Even if it isn't your car currently, it much too closely resembles the vehicle that became the punch line of many jokes on several sites with an owner that got himself chased off of several sites for massive amounts of shadyness.

hmm there is only one car, he took vids for me cause i dont have a video camera right now,so he uploaded them under his account, his account has been around wayyy before i was ever on here or thirdgen.

that car has always been MINE

Mike
03-13-2009, 10:42 PM
hmm there is only one car, he took vids for me cause i dont have a video camera right now,so he uploaded them under his account, his account has been around wayyy before i was ever on here or thirdgen.

that car has always been MINE

no, he became a member on steetfire since may 30 2007, you have been a member on this name longer than that, as well as the other 3 names you have had before this one...............

Jersyboyy
03-13-2009, 10:45 PM
Tsar gave me a badass idea...brb im getting popcorn....

project89
03-13-2009, 10:50 PM
no, he became a member on steetfire since may 30 2007, you have been a member on this name longer than that, as well as the other 3 names you have had before this one...............

3 other names huh try 2 this is my second, why dont u go ask tru2chevy since hes the one that merged my accounts

project89
03-13-2009, 10:51 PM
no, he became a member on steetfire since may 30 2007, you have been a member on this name longer than that, as well as the other 3 names you have had before this one...............

did i say anything about streetfire no i said thirdgen hes had that name before i was even signed up on thirdgen or here

Mike
03-13-2009, 10:53 PM
did i say anything about streetfire no i said thirdgen hes had that name before i was even signed up on thirdgen or here

maybe im just not getting it......you know how that is right? i mean, you are still coming to this site after all

madness410
03-13-2009, 11:14 PM
Tsar gave me a badass idea...brb im getting popcorn....

grab me some too...extra butter please..

madness410
03-13-2009, 11:15 PM
and nothing wrong with blue camaro with black hoods

http://i349.photobucket.com/albums/q365/kuligojo/n40707367_31838269_1842000.jpg

Mike
03-13-2009, 11:15 PM
3 other names huh try 2 this is my second, why dont u go ask tru2chevy since hes the one that merged my accounts

damn musta been talking to the wrong admins

Blackbirdws6
03-14-2009, 06:09 AM
Couple more vids....

I spend too much time on streetfire.net

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/TURBO-V6-CAMARO-TEST-RUN_640976.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/TURBO-V6-CAMARO-TEST-RUN_640977.htm

project89
03-14-2009, 06:16 AM
if ya wait till later tongiht the dyno vids will be up.

car should be putting down over 400rwhp at mid boost levels,car has already made 307rwhp on the old tiny turbo @ 9psi

Blackbirdws6
03-14-2009, 06:20 AM
if ya wait till later tongiht the dyno vids will be up.

car should be putting down over 400rwhp at mid boost levels,car has already made 307rwhp on the old tiny turbo @ 9psi

You going to the dyno day that an unnamed person on the forums was pitching?

project89
03-14-2009, 06:33 AM
You going to the dyno day that an unnamed person on the forums was pitching?

yeah im about to go load the car on the trailer and head over to khc prolly get there round 10:30

Street Lethal
03-14-2009, 06:35 AM
funny...color is the same, color of the hood is the same, and the windshield banner is the same 19 seconds into the second video....same car you had at the nats

Dude, WTF are you talking about lmao? I was never at your F-Body Nationals, that was Dave (aka; project89, boosted89, twinturbo89RS, daves12secv6, etc.). That is not my car, I just filmed and hosted it because he has no camera....

-Rob

Street Lethal
03-14-2009, 06:43 AM
His old UserID.....;

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/member.php?u=43719

His NEW UserID....;

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/member.php?u=79910

His recent threads....;

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/v6/515192-new-vid-clips-today.html

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/power-adder/515017-getting-dynoed-finally-3-a.html#post4079546

.... and here's my UserID;

http://www.thirdgen.org/techboard/member.php?u=23911

transmaro93
03-14-2009, 09:06 AM
does that car still have the turbo running on only one bank.... i think thats the car i heard of.... what kind of block repair did you man.... JB weld somthing closed or somthing.... hah... good luck at your dyno day tho... only sucks it sounds like a mazda mx-6 with exhaust.... do somthing about that...

sweetbmxrider
03-14-2009, 11:26 AM
i was here for this

SamhainZ28
03-14-2009, 11:35 AM
posting

V
03-14-2009, 11:35 AM
bhahahaha... memories......

project89
03-14-2009, 01:00 PM
does that car still have the turbo running on only one bank.... i think thats the car i heard of.... what kind of block repair did you man.... JB weld somthing closed or somthing.... hah... good luck at your dyno day tho... only sucks it sounds like a mazda mx-6 with exhaust.... do somthing about that...
no the block cracked below the deck between the middle and rear cyls it wasnt really bad just enough to seep water so i tig welded the crack up with nirod till i can swap blocks.


we had issues at the dyno today and i made another appointment for wensday 2pm so i could fix the timing issue.

for some reason timing was not advancing but we tried to make the pulls anyway

with timing locked at 8* btdc car only made 268rwhp & 367.6 ftlbs @ 10 psi.
we didnt even get a full pull in as the car would not rev up over 5k rpms

im surprised it made it that high with only 8* so when i go back wensday ill have issue fixed and should be able to increase that to around 350whp @ 10 psi with no other changes

ill post up the graphs and dyno vids soon as i can

GrandmasterCow
03-14-2009, 01:12 PM
sweet

NJ Torque
03-14-2009, 01:55 PM
umm. ok.

baddest434
03-14-2009, 02:13 PM
:w00t: :w00t:

Blackbirdws6
03-14-2009, 04:11 PM
yeah im about to go load the car on the trailer and head over to khc prolly get there round 10:30

Hmmm. I was there until about 11AM and didn't see your car roll in. Got a graph of the run?

My buddies WRX did well with just a stage 2 and cobb accessport tune.

project89
03-14-2009, 04:17 PM
vid
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Turbo-31-Camaro-Dyno-Day_641050.htm

one the second pull after i let off u can her an air hose rupture under the dyno.we all thought for sure that i kicked the rods out of the motor,i shut the motor off soon as i heard it but after about 30 seconds we relized it wasnt the car making the noise

will have the graphs posted up in a lil while

NJSPEEDER
03-14-2009, 04:34 PM
Nice bent left rear wheel. lol

project89
03-14-2009, 04:38 PM
Nice bent left rear wheel. lol


pretty sure its not a bent wheel, car has a spool in in the rear now. i think i ended up with a bent axle.Didnt notice it till it was on the rollers, ill swap out that axle tommorow

BigAls87Z28
03-14-2009, 04:43 PM
Well that was a big waste of 5 mins.

project89
03-14-2009, 04:56 PM
http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa58/Street-Lethal/Turbo31CamaroDynoDay-2.jpg

sweetbmxrider
03-14-2009, 05:55 PM
haggard

DaSkinnyGuy
03-14-2009, 05:58 PM
Wow every where this guy goes everyone gives him a problem. At least hes trying something new, not many if any besides him turbo a 3.1L. I use to watch all the controversy on thirdgen.org. Then the user name changed because someone possibly took his password, when the new name came things were a little respective. O well as long as its getting faster and can make the pass down the track.

project89
03-14-2009, 06:03 PM
Wow every where this guy goes everyone gives him a problem. At least hes trying something new, not many if any besides him turbo a 3.1L. I use to watch all the controversy on thirdgen.org. Then the user name changed because someone possibly took his password, when the new name came things were a little respective. O well as long as its getting faster and can make the pass down the track.

lmao its all good i could give a **** less what anyone thinks,ppl who actually know my car knows what it does,they also know the turbo was NEVER RUN off one bank.

ill be the one lol,ing when i get my 10.90 time slip this year, car hits the track first week in april after i install the cage

sweetbmxrider
03-14-2009, 06:06 PM
don't lie

Ian
03-14-2009, 06:09 PM
why did it take so long for them to make the actual pull on the dyno? your car was on there for like 5 minutes before they made the pull.

Tsar
03-14-2009, 06:17 PM
ill be the one lol,ing when i get my 10.90 time slip this year, It will never happen.

project89
03-14-2009, 06:50 PM
why did it take so long for them to make the actual pull on the dyno? your car was on there for like 5 minutes before they made the pull.
he was setting the dyno up and i took a few mins to setup my wideband and datalogger

project89
03-14-2009, 06:51 PM
It will never happen.

yes it will
i can show u a car that dynoed 370rwhp on the same dyno that runs 10.70's

Mike
03-14-2009, 06:53 PM
yes it will
i can show u a car that dynoed 370rwhp on the same dyno that runs 10.70's

because dyno numbers mean EVERYTHING

band77one
03-14-2009, 08:51 PM
because dyno numbers mean EVERYTHING

owned

Jersyboyy
03-14-2009, 09:55 PM
Where is the love guys?
Brian I showed up just after 11 with a bbq in the back of my camaro had the hatch tied to the hitch.
A few nice cars rolled by many opted to go out binge drinking at one of the many St patties day parades tho.
Mystic mustang put down somewhere in the mid 500 range with power and almost 600 in torque if I heard correctly.
It was pretty fun and alot of cool rides cruised in and out the entire day.

As for the turbo 3.1l he had MAJOR issues today like "I slapped some **** together just to prove **** to some jerkoffs on some site where their is no love any more and should have just waited another day to make sure every thing was right on point because then I would have make jaws drop" kinda of problems but hopefully it will prove most of the haters wrong next time around.

Im just happy he has a thirdgen, is working on it and doing something completely different then everyone else and their mamas. Why cant you guys cut any one a break?

DaSkinnyGuy
03-14-2009, 10:35 PM
because dyno numbers mean EVERYTHING

endless possibiltys, elevation, weather conditions, track conditions, driver,car weight, what that car is that made 370hp could be a diesel pickup that weighs 6,000lbs, gears, so much

Mike
03-14-2009, 11:10 PM
Where is the love guys?
Brian I showed up just after 11 with a bbq in the back of my camaro had the hatch tied to the hitch.
A few nice cars rolled by many opted to go out binge drinking at one of the many St patties day parades tho.
Mystic mustang put down somewhere in the mid 500 range with power and almost 600 in torque if I heard correctly.
It was pretty fun and alot of cool rides cruised in and out the entire day.

As for the turbo 3.1l he had MAJOR issues today like "I slapped some **** together just to prove **** to some jerkoffs on some site where their is no love any more and should have just waited another day to make sure every thing was right on point because then I would have make jaws drop" kinda of problems but hopefully it will prove most of the haters wrong next time around.

Im just happy he has a thirdgen, is working on it and doing something completely different then everyone else and their mamas. Why cant you guys cut any one a break?

been 3 years, what will one day do him

NJ Torque
03-14-2009, 11:14 PM
was this the heap at the track that i saw like 6 guys running around with laptops in the staging lanes at etown?

project89
03-14-2009, 11:22 PM
the timing issue was totally unexpected,had i known before hand i would have called and just come up during the week.i didnt knwo about it till after the second pull and i threw the timing light on it and seen that timing was not advancing.
it only would have taken about 10 mins to fix but i didnt want to hold the dyno up

other then that the only other issue i had was for some reason i could not get the boost to increase no matter how much i cranked down on my boost controller, but limited timing can cause that as well

also gota remeber the day before today my engine block had 2 big ass cracks in it, by the time i finished repairing that alls i had time was to give it those 2 test shots up the street



it dont matter i setup an apointment with jay to get the car redynoed with it fixed for this comming wensday.

deadtrend1
03-15-2009, 07:02 AM
the timing issue was totally unexpected,had i known before hand i would have called and just come up during the week.i didnt knwo about it till after the second pull and i threw the timing light on it and seen that timing was not advancing.
it only would have taken about 10 mins to fix but i didnt want to hold the dyno up

other then that the only other issue i had was for some reason i could not get the boost to increase no matter how much i cranked down on my boost controller, but limited timing can cause that as well

also gota remeber the day before today my engine block had 2 big ass cracks in it, by the time i finished repairing that alls i had time was to give it those 2 test shots up the street



it dont matter i setup an apointment with jay to get the car redynoed with it fixed for this comming wensday.

http://www.videoservicecorp.com/images/Teddy%20V1.JPG

Blackbirdws6
03-15-2009, 07:14 AM
Where is the love guys?
Brian I showed up just after 11 with a bbq in the back of my camaro had the hatch tied to the hitch.
A few nice cars rolled by many opted to go out binge drinking at one of the many St patties day parades tho.
Mystic mustang put down somewhere in the mid 500 range with power and almost 600 in torque if I heard correctly.
It was pretty fun and alot of cool rides cruised in and out the entire day.


I must have just missed you then. I didn't stick around because it was pretty dead in the morning. I did tell the guy running the dyno that I was referred by you. I also had to get back to my place to pack since I'm moving into my new house in a week. Nice shop though and my buddies WRX put down some respectable #'s for just a cobb stage 2 basemap.

98tadriver
03-15-2009, 10:55 AM
lmao its all good i could give a **** less what anyone thinks,ppl who actually know my car knows what it does,they also know the turbo was NEVER RUN off one bank.

ill be the one lol,ing when i get my 10.90 time slip this year, car hits the track first week in april after i install the cage

so youre saying that you still give a *****, just less than what youd normally give? and youll need more than 268whp to run a 10.9 my friend :lol:

NJSPEEDER
03-15-2009, 11:28 AM
so youre saying that you still give a *****, just less than what youd normally give? and youll need more than 268whp to run a 10.9 my friend :lol:

No he doesn't Ron, because he KNOWS someone else who got into the 10's with 370. I guess you haven't been watching the mags lately, the latest go fast mod is knowing someone with more power than you. :moon:

LTb1ow
03-15-2009, 11:35 AM
so youre saying that you still give a *****, just less than what youd normally give? and youll need more than 268whp to run a 10.9 my friend :lol:

Not if its on a bike. :lol:

NjbadSS
03-15-2009, 12:16 PM
No he doesn't Ron, because he KNOWS someone else who got into the 10's with 370. I guess you haven't been watching the mags lately, the latest go fast mod is knowing someone with more power than you. :moon:

awchhhhhhh:rofl:

BigAls87Z28
03-15-2009, 12:20 PM
lmao its all good i could give a **** less what anyone thinks,ppl who actually know my car knows what it does,they also know the turbo was NEVER RUN off one bank.



Uh, we know your car. We saw it run 17's, 18's and then a bind-blowing 23 sec 1/4 at Island durring the Nats.
We saw the single bank turbo, we hears you complain about it not "getting enough boost" and that you were pulling all sorts of parts out to push it "over 20psi" when you made that record setting pass.

Please. 10's in the 1/8th? I can see that. Even at 470hp, I dont see you running anywhere near 10's. Id save your money on that cage, I dont think you will be needing it for some time.

project89
03-15-2009, 01:58 PM
and now u can see me go 13.0 breaking in the new motor before the nats last year, with the old turbo which was much smaller then the one i dynoed with

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/130_641187.htm

cars been even faster already
so keep ur **** talking up so i can keep track of who talks the most **** and embarrass u at ur own f-body event :D

sweetbmxrider
03-15-2009, 02:13 PM
and now u can see me go 13.0 breaking in the new motor before the nats last year, with the old turbo which was much smaller then the one i dynoed with

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/130_641187.htm

cars been even faster already
so keep ur **** talking up so i can keep track of who talks the most **** and embarrass u at ur own f-body event :D

where was the 13.0 run? why did the tree turn red?

what size turbo is on the car now?

being a member of the club, wouldn't it be our own f-body event?

Mike
03-15-2009, 02:24 PM
then we saw you get the boot from last years nats.......

project89
03-15-2009, 02:28 PM
where was the 13.0 run? why did the tree turn red?

what size turbo is on the car now?

being a member of the club, wouldn't it be our own f-body event?

13.0 was at e-town few weeks before the nats ran the car really rich that night 10.5 afrs with only 10 psi.i couldnt hold the car on the line against the converter that night. i didnt have a line lock so i kept overheating the rear brakes in the burnout box.sucked when trying to get the turbo spooled up when staged.

even though its redlights the times are still accurate, the second run was a planed head start anyway against my friends low 10 sec gn

old turbo was a 50mm turbo the new one is a 61mm unit

only time i come here is when somone decides to talk **** or post one of my vids off streetfire

project89
03-15-2009, 02:29 PM
then we saw you get the boot from last years nats.......

yeah and i fixed the catch can hose that came off and was on my way back to the lanes and it decided to friggen rain

Mike
03-15-2009, 02:34 PM
then you drove home with no wipers in your high quality, awesomely engineered car..........why not make it safe to drive before driving to the track?

NJSPEEDER
03-15-2009, 02:41 PM
If you really wanna show everyone up I have a proposition for you. The members here go to the track all the time, so just let us know when you are ready and we will see how many people can be there to witness your can put up the numbers you are shooting for.

If you accomplish your goal I will be the first person to shake your hand and say congrats and I will even buy yoru first round at the bar after. If you wanna line up next to someone I will even be happy to fill that role, but I will warn you that my car is not fast and I sit on street tires, so I won't be a good car to pace you to your 10 second goal.

Let me know when you are ready. I have video camera mounts and I am sure we can get other cameras there to document your glorious achievement.

Mike
03-15-2009, 02:43 PM
If you really wanna show everyone up I have a proposition for you. The members here go to the track all the time, so just let us know when you are ready and we will see how many people can be there to witness your can put up the numbers you are shooting for.

If you accomplish your goal I will be the first person to shake your hand and say congrats and I will even buy yoru first round at the bar after. If you wanna line up next to someone I will even be happy to fill that role, but I will warn you that my car is not fast and I sit on street tires, so I won't be a good car to pace you to your 10 second goal.

Let me know when you are ready. I have video camera mounts and I am sure we can get other cameras there to document your glorious achievement.

the one post in this thread he wont answer

sweetbmxrider
03-15-2009, 02:44 PM
meh, little turbos.

project89
03-15-2009, 02:50 PM
If you really wanna show everyone up I have a proposition for you. The members here go to the track all the time, so just let us know when you are ready and we will see how many people can be there to witness your can put up the numbers you are shooting for.

If you accomplish your goal I will be the first person to shake your hand and say congrats and I will even buy yoru first round at the bar after. If you wanna line up next to someone I will even be happy to fill that role, but I will warn you that my car is not fast and I sit on street tires, so I won't be a good car to pace you to your 10 second goal.

Let me know when you are ready. I have video camera mounts and I am sure we can get other cameras there to document your glorious achievement.

sure soon as i get this new turbo dialed in.The dyno was the first time ive boosted with that new turbo,with the exception of the 2 street vids

Mike
03-15-2009, 02:53 PM
so it will be done weds you said?

etown next saturday then

project89
03-15-2009, 02:53 PM
then you drove home with no wipers in your high quality, awesomely engineered car..........why not make it safe to drive before driving to the track?

i always figured if it rained while i had the car out at e-town my house is only a 5 mins drive away it wouldnt be that bad.


the wipers went back into the car after that day at island,i really dont go far with the car often, and i dont need it for a dd so i was in the middle of removing them to get rid of the wieght.

Mike
03-15-2009, 02:56 PM
mine stayed on because most "street" classes require them.......

blades are about 4 years old though

project89
03-15-2009, 02:56 PM
so it will be done weds you said?

etown next saturday then

should be done wensday, thats when im going back to the dyno, well see how much tuning a accomplish on the dyno wensday.may have to take it back one more time after to get it were i want (25-28 psi is were im looking to get this thing)

this weekend wont work celebrating my b-day out in nyc this comming weekend, and im possibly going away the last weekend in march.

prolly end up being first week or 2 of april.
friday nights are better btw

NJSPEEDER
03-15-2009, 02:56 PM
sure soon as i get this new turbo dialed in.The dyno was the first time ive boosted with that new turbo,with the exception of the 2 street vids

So give it a few weeks, make sure it is all sorted out, and let me know when you are ready. As of April 1st, Wednesdays won't be any good for me but I should be around pretty much every weekend.

LTb1ow
03-15-2009, 02:58 PM
Not to be a downer here, but your shooting for 13s and you have sunk how much money into this?

Mike
03-15-2009, 02:58 PM
should be done wensday, thats when im going back to the dyno, well see how much tuning a accomplish on the dyno wensday.may have to take it back one more time after to get it were i want (25-28 psi is were im looking to get this thing)

this weekend wont work celebrating my b-day out in nyc this comming weekend, and im possibly going away the last weekend in march.

prolly end up being first week or 2 of april.
friday nights are better btw


tuesday......atco
weds..........englishtown
thurs..........atco
fri..............atco englishtown island
sat.............atco englishtown island
sun..............atco englishtown island

pick one

project89
03-15-2009, 03:00 PM
So give it a few weeks, make sure it is all sorted out, and let me know when you are ready. As of April 1st, Wednesdays won't be any good for me but I should be around pretty much every weekend.

that works i wont even bother trying to run on a wensday to many dam ppl there,i like fridays cause we can usually get 5-6 runs in when we go down

Not to be a downer here, but your shooting for 13s and you have sunk how much money into this?

in 4 years ive spent under 2,200 bucks, and the 13's was just a test car should into the 11's at 10 psi once i fix the ignition issue, car was pulling good 12 sec passes on the small turbo at the same boost level,just gota get that boost cranked back up on it now and retuned

LTb1ow
03-15-2009, 03:06 PM
I guess to each his own....

WayFast84
03-15-2009, 03:47 PM
should be this.

this went wrong.

Blah blah blah.

STFU. It still doesn't change the fact You posted other peoples time slips on TGO, Had a turbo off one bank, And wanted to build me the ****tiest motor ever!(thanks BIGAL) I'm calling you out. Lets go to atco and race.

LTb1ow
03-15-2009, 03:57 PM
should be this.

this went wrong.

Blah blah blah.

STFU. It still doesn't change the fact You posted other peoples time slips on TGO, Had a turbo off one bank, And wanted to build me the ****tiest motor ever!(thanks BIGAL) I'm calling you out. Lets go to atco and race.

This is gonna be good. :rofl:

project89
03-15-2009, 03:57 PM
should be this.

this went wrong.

Blah blah blah.

STFU. It still doesn't change the fact You posted other peoples time slips on TGO, Had a turbo off one bank, And wanted to build me the ****tiest motor ever!(thanks BIGAL) I'm calling you out. Lets go to atco and race.

lmao @ posting other ppls times slips, NEVER HAPPENED.

turbo off one bank = NEVER HAPPENED

the whole build was posted day by day on tgo up until the very first fire, it NEVER EVER RAN OFF ONE SIDE.post is still there to this day

just the same as everyone belives my car really has a 3.1 one it with some high $ heads --- NOPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

WayFast84
03-15-2009, 04:00 PM
lmao @ posting other ppls times slips, NEVER HAPPENED.

turbo off one bank = NEVER HAPPENED

the whole build was posted day by day on tgo up until the very first fire, it NEVER EVER RAN OFF ONE SIDE.post is still there to this day

just the same as everyone belives my car really has a 3.1 one it with some high $ heads --- NOPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

so you dont want to race?

LTb1ow
03-15-2009, 04:02 PM
so you dont want to race?

You need a working car to be able to race, unless of course you plan on pushing yours....

ar0ck
03-15-2009, 04:02 PM
Pick a date, let me know & I'll bring the Camera for documents sake.

NJSPEEDER
03-15-2009, 04:25 PM
so you dont want to race?

When did you put your car back together?

sweetbmxrider
03-15-2009, 04:50 PM
first off, http://www.njfboa.org/forums/images/buttons/multiquote_off.gif is the multiquote button. click it in each post you want to quote then click quote in any of those posts.

should be done wensday, thats when im going back to the dyno, well see how much tuning a accomplish on the dyno wensday.may have to take it back one more time after to get it were i want (25-28 psi is were im looking to get this thing)

in 4 years ive spent under 2,200 bucks, and the 13's was just a test car should into the 11's at 10 psi once i fix the ignition issue, car was pulling good 12 sec passes on the small turbo at the same boost level,just gota get that boost cranked back up on it now and retuned

so how much boost are you shooting for and what et you want?

project89
03-15-2009, 05:02 PM
first off, http://www.njfboa.org/forums/images/buttons/multiquote_off.gif is the multiquote button. click it in each post you want to quote then click quote in any of those posts.





so how much boost are you shooting for and what et you want?

im only trying to get the car to go 10.70 tops, class im building the car around is super street and has a 10.90 index.

im only gonna boost high enough to hit the goal but it will prolly take atleast21 pounds of boost to hit it unless i seriously lighten up the car, i am allowed a min wieght of 2,000 pounds though

GrandmasterCow
03-15-2009, 06:07 PM
Wait, what is all done to this car? From what i've read, he's pushing 20-26# through a stock or built 3.1L (whats the cr, specs,etc.) ? what's the car's weight?

NJSPEEDER
03-15-2009, 06:10 PM
Most of the info is in his sig.

GrandmasterCow
03-15-2009, 06:22 PM
Most of the info is in his sig.
sometimes i worry about my eyes... lol

BigAls87Z28
03-15-2009, 06:23 PM
So let me get this straight...

You put down 270hp to the wheels, which is 30hp short of what stock LS1 guys put down, which on average lay down low 13's, and some how you are going to be 3 seconds faster through the traps?
You do understand that going faster requires exponentially more power? So going 100hp seperates a 200hp LB9 car doing 15's and a 300hp LS1 car going 13's. But a 400hp car like the GTO usually hit low 12's. Not nearly the same gap.
500hp car like the Z06 are mid to low 11's, and thats with a lighter Z06.
The ZR1, which puts down 640hp hits tens with 140hp more then the Z06....
So you are saying that your car that you have there, can hit the same times as the ZR1?

Ill be second to shake your hand if you can go faster then 12.0.

Tru2Chevy
03-15-2009, 06:24 PM
And he said last night in the chat that the car was 3400lbs with no driver....

- Justin

DaSkinnyGuy
03-15-2009, 06:26 PM
I honestly hope he does make the car run high 10's. So many people have been giving him crap for years and at this point it doesnt look out of the question. Dont they have turbo 3.8L regals in the 8's so why wouldnt a 3.1L be out of the question for high 10's. I could see if his goal was 9's then all the smack talk could go on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIup8dTHnZA

Please make that 10 sec pass. ( once you do so many people on so many forums will be hiding in the woodwork incomplete shame of themselves for spending hours on a forum smack talking a guy whos got a goal, started out a stock 17 secs car and has made 12 sec passes)

BigAls87Z28
03-15-2009, 06:27 PM
And he said last night in the chat that the car was 3400lbs with no driver....

- Justin

So, he's gunna run ZR1 times with a car that weighs 200lbs more, and with 370hp less.

BigAls87Z28
03-15-2009, 06:31 PM
Please make that 10 sec pass. ( once you do so many people on so many forums will be hiding in the woodwork incomplete shame of themselves for spending hours on a forum smack talking a guy whos got a goal, started out a stock 17 secs car and has made 12 sec passes)

Uh, he was making 17 to 23 sec passes with his magical turbo 3.1.

8 sec 3.8T cars with thousands of dollars invested hit 8's is one thing. This is a totally different animal.

Ive seen the car, Ive seen it race, and it has yet to impress anyone. He has duped a lot of people over the internet, he has made a lot of promises that he has yet to show. There are a million variables and thousands of things against him, but if he somehow defies physics, then not only should we appluause, but he should probably get the Nobel Peace Prize for Science for making a sub 300hp car into the 10's.

Tsar
03-15-2009, 06:32 PM
I honestly hope he does make the car run high 10's. So many people have been giving him crap for years and at this point it doesnt look out of the question. Dont they have turbo 3.8L regals in the 8's so why wouldnt a 3.1L be out of the question for high 10's. I could see if his goal was 9's then all the smack talk could go on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIup8dTHnZA

Please make that 10 sec pass. ( once you do so many people on so many forums will be hiding in the woodwork incomplete shame of themselves for spending hours on a forum smack talking a guy whos got a goal, started out a stock 17 secs car and has made 12 sec passes)
Don't get your hopes up. I will put money against him and his current car. Wanna bet?

Tru2Chevy
03-15-2009, 06:33 PM
So, he's gunna run ZR1 times with a car that weighs 200lbs more, and with 370hp less.

When / if he gets the issues with the car ironed out, it should put down way more hp, and he's going to be taking weight out of the car as well.

The hp number posted in this thread is a rwhp number from a Mustang dyno @ only 10 psi with the timing fixed @ 8* BTDC. More boost with the timing issue fixed should give a much better hp number.

Still think 10s are a lofty goal without major changes to the setup, but we'll just have to wait and see what happens.

- Justin

project89
03-15-2009, 06:39 PM
Wait, what is all done to this car? From what i've read, he's pushing 20-26# through a stock or built 3.1L (whats the cr, specs,etc.) ? what's the car's weight?

lots of the info posted isnt lets say exact,im saving that for when i tear the motor back down.

the jist of it is a pretty much a factory shortblock,arp rod bolts/good bearings and kb pistons/w plasma moly rings. all high speed balanced

cr is actually 8.5-1 and i can drop it down to almost 8.0-1 with a simple head gasket change if i need to.

custom spec cam thats in my sig is no longer in the motor, i have a diff grind in it now,the heads are ported but are not cnc'ed, i had issues witht he cnc ported heads and had to remove them.intake is just a ported stocker.

and thats pretty much it, other then the pushrods/springs/locks and retianers, which is all god comp cams stuff.

that leaves the custom stainless turboheaders t3/60-1 turbo, the megasquirt,
and the wet nitrous kit i havent even used yet(35-150 shot)

we did some testing at very high boost with the old turbo upto 28 pounds and methanol actually.but i wasnt about to try that with bolting a much larger turbo onto the car without retuning it first

other then that the car has a spool in the rear 4:10 gears a 4,500 9 inch stall converter front drag springs,rear drag shocks, boxed lca's,lcarbs

the bolt on frame connectors are gone,and im doing my own threw the floor connectors when the cage goes in

So let me get this straight...

You put down 270hp to the wheels, which is 30hp short of what stock LS1 guys put down, which on average lay down low 13's, and some how you are going to be 3 seconds faster through the traps?
You do understand that going faster requires exponentially more power? So going 100hp seperates a 200hp LB9 car doing 15's and a 300hp LS1 car going 13's. But a 400hp car like the GTO usually hit low 12's. Not nearly the same gap.
500hp car like the Z06 are mid to low 11's, and thats with a lighter Z06.
The ZR1, which puts down 640hp hits tens with 140hp more then the Z06....
So you are saying that your car that you have there, can hit the same times as the ZR1?

Ill be second to shake your hand if you can go faster then 12.0.

well we already know my car is faster then 13 flat,and we also know that my dyno numbers are nowere near acurate.

take any car dyno it,then lock out the ignition timing to *8 btdc then redyno it.Whats gonna happen???? how much power do u think the cars gonna lose?

hell i was lucky i could get it to pull to 5 grand on the dyno and the only reason it made it that far prolly was cause of my converter

NJSPEEDER
03-15-2009, 06:42 PM
Instead of debating the cars potential everyone can just come to the track. He is planning to let me know when he is ready and I will let everyone know. We will hit E-town since it is local to him and we can all see the results first hand.

He is planning a lot of changes for the car, let him take the time to get it ironed out to his satisfaction and we can get the results on video.

Anyone who comes can feel free to see who is on which side of the debate and put up their bets then.

98tadriver
03-15-2009, 06:43 PM
i wonder if i could hit 11s on street tires before he hits 12s.....

project89
03-15-2009, 06:44 PM
i wonder if i could hit 11s on street tires before he hits 12s.....
its already hit 12's if u read the thread


btw what does a stock ls1 put down for tq numbers at the rear wheels?

NJSPEEDER
03-15-2009, 06:46 PM
Most dead stock dyno's I have seen of LS 4th gens put them in the high 280's for both. Some do a bit better, some a little worse, but taht seems to be about the average. They also routinely weigh in at 3500-3600lbs

DaSkinnyGuy
03-15-2009, 06:53 PM
To many people seem stuck on the fact seeing this car put down this pass with these dyno numbers.

So lets say he put in that new head gasket drops the compression ratio down, throws 10lbs more boost to the motor has all the tune set the way he needs it to then what power will he be making?

Throw 10lbs of boost into you car how much power will you be making? now throw 20lbs of boost into your car with lower compression ratio how much power will it be making?

:-?

project89
03-15-2009, 06:54 PM
k im sure u see were i was going with that

even with as low as my numbers were i put down 370ftlbs
anyway my cars the same wieght as a ls1 4thgen with me in it.
Gota put it back on a diet again

bubba428
03-15-2009, 08:34 PM
so sense this is aboutr what cars SHOULD do, when ever they might be ready...wanna race my regal? non-turbo, P&P heads/intake, decent size cam, 11:1 cr POS trans/rear. should be a good race. hell I'll race you with the 2.xx 10 bolt and crap trans, we'll see who gets farther before it breaks

NJSPEEDER
03-15-2009, 09:54 PM
we'll see who gets farther before it breaks

Isn't that a bit much of a gamble for any car you have worked on? :rofl:

Sorry, had to, you just made that way too easy.

NJSPEEDER
03-15-2009, 09:56 PM
To many people seem stuck on the fact seeing this car put down this pass with these dyno numbers.

So lets say he put in that new head gasket drops the compression ratio down, throws 10lbs more boost to the motor has all the tune set the way he needs it to then what power will he be making?

Throw 10lbs of boost into you car how much power will you be making? now throw 20lbs of boost into your car with lower compression ratio how much power will it be making?

:-?

Let's say I have a Ferrari running down hill with the most powerful quad turbo V72 in history and super duper wings all over it, generating elevnty billion ft/lbs of down force and I can theoretically take the corner at the bottom of the hill at 900mph.

Sounds awesome in theory, but theories don't run as well as actual cars. Drop the whole "let's say" thing, it is beyond bench racing especially when it isn't your car.

bubba428
03-15-2009, 10:27 PM
Isn't that a bit much of a gamble for any car you have worked on? :rofl:

Sorry, had to, you just made that way too easy.

funny, being i'm one of the 1st people to offer free help to anyone in a reasonable radius...even done headers for a member so eat it...

besides your just jealous that my hoopty buick will be faster than your car :moon:

bubba428
03-15-2009, 10:29 PM
Let's say I have a Ferrari running down hill with the most powerful quad turbo V72 in history and super duper wings all over it, generating elevnty billion ft/lbs of down force and I can theoretically take the corner at the bottom of the hill at 900mph.

Sounds awesome in theory, but theories don't run as well as actual cars. Drop the whole "let's say" thing, it is beyond bench racing especially when it isn't your car.

I think i saw that on youtube

NJSPEEDER
03-15-2009, 10:29 PM
Is it? We will have to see about that and I will even wait until you have all your good parts together, better trans, rear, and whatever else you need to buy/get done. Let me Know when yer ready.

BTW, did you see that link I sent you?

bubba428
03-15-2009, 10:36 PM
yup. i'm kinda confused as to if moser really made a 7.5in rear? maybe he's a dumbass and I can get it dirt cheap, I mean it is smallblockposse after all

NJSPEEDER
03-15-2009, 10:39 PM
It is just Moser parts in a 7.5 and you can prolly get a good deal on it. Doesn't hurt to ask at least.

sweetbmxrider
03-15-2009, 10:43 PM
we all seem to be overlooking the fact that he has two, yes two, cracks in the block. he welded them together and is trying to make some sort of respectable pass. dude get your car right before someone, including yourself, gets hurt or even KILLED! *******.

bubba428
03-15-2009, 10:46 PM
we all seem to be overlooking the fact that he has two, yes two, cracks in the block. he welded them together and is trying to make some sort of respectable pass. dude get your car right before someone, including yourself, gets hurt or even KILLED! *******.

no it doesn't matter if he dies now...he's already reproduced...

Mike
03-15-2009, 10:49 PM
no it doesn't matter if he dies now...he's already reproduced...

:redblob:best bubba post ever :redblob:

BigAls87Z28
03-16-2009, 12:27 AM
Im still amazing that you think that this car should be pushing near 700hp. Thats what it comes down too.
Even if you magicly doubled your current output, had no problems, you STILL woulnt have enough to make 11's.
Its not going to happen. Id say that when you fail, you pay ALL of our pit passes that show up to see it. Im not gunna waste my 25 bucks to sit there and see you destroy the 14 second barrier.
You better start looking through old Army surplus for some rocket motors if you expect 10s.

NastyEllEssWon
03-16-2009, 12:38 AM
im going to e-town to witness this trainwreck in person. if its half as entertaining as my last 10 minutes reading 6 pages filled with wtf's and desktop dyno numbers.


boosting a block with two welded holes in it doesnt seem like a solid start for your platform build. might i suggest replacing that 3.1 with a later model 3.8...hell even a 3.4.

iirc the 3.1 and 3.4 are both 60 degree v6's and are interchangable. hell it might be worth it to you to look into www.60degreev6.com. also im not sure but you might be able to toss on some heads from the newer fwd 3500 v6's. if you can id look into going that way because they flow better than 3400 heads ported and polished at their best.

theres plenty of options for the 60 degree v6's that you should look into if your actually serious.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Corsica-goes-129-106_193741.htm

thats a video of a 3400 v6 turbo at 10 psi doing 12.9 in a fwd corsica. the guy is on 60degv6 i believe and has tons of info on this type of application and tuning.

BigAls87Z28
03-16-2009, 12:42 AM
I belive that with the 3.5/3.9 the intake is different as they redesigned it to get rid of teh massive problems they had with intake gasket failure.

bubba428
03-16-2009, 12:52 AM
im going to e-town to witness this trainwreck in person. if its half as entertaining as my last 10 minutes reading 6 pages filled with wtf's and desktop dyno numbers.


boosting a block with two welded holes in it doesnt seem like a solid start for your platform build. might i suggest replacing that 3.1 with a later model 3.8...hell even a 3.4.

iirc the 3.1 and 3.4 are both 60 degree v6's and are interchangable. hell it might be worth it to you to look into www.60degreev6.com. also im not sure but you might be able to toss on some heads from the newer fwd 3500 v6's. if you can id look into going that way because they flow better than 3400 heads ported and polished at their best.

theres plenty of options for the 60 degree v6's that you should look into if your actually serious.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Corsica-goes-129-106_193741.htm

thats a video of a 3400 v6 turbo at 10 psi doing 12.9 in a fwd corsica. the guy is on 60degv6 i believe and has tons of info on this type of application and tuning.

werd, due to money, space, and family issues I've been on the fence about selling my 3.4 for the right price I'd let it go, but I don't even know why I'm posting this because I wouldn't sell it to him anyway

I belive that with the 3.5/3.9 the intake is different as they redesigned it to get rid of teh massive problems they had with intake gasket failure.

the 3500 and 3400 upper manifold is interchangable so the gaskit design is the same. the 3.9, while yes it still is a 60* V6 is a whole different motor entirely

NastyEllEssWon
03-16-2009, 12:52 AM
yeah but the new style top end should still bolt to a 3.4 bottom end, maybe even a 3.1 since they basically mirror images with minor tweaks. its worth the hp gains especially since no one makes mods for these motors and the newer gm manifolds are getting really efficient on the 60 degree motors as the design fades out to the newer ohc motors

bubba428
03-16-2009, 12:53 AM
o0o NOW every jumps on the 3.4/3400 bandwagon....WTF you were all making fun of it 2 years ago when I started playing with my 3.4

NastyEllEssWon
03-16-2009, 12:57 AM
o0o NOW every jumps on the 3.4/3400 bandwagon....WTF you were all making fun of it 2 years ago when I started playing with my 3.4




ive been modding 60 degree motors since i was 18. i have a closet addiction for lbody cars (berettas and corsicas) and have owned quite a few over the years.
the beretta boards are teeming with people modding 60 degrees.


heres a vid of two members on the site that have recently broken into the high thirteens with n/a 3400/3500 hybrid and stalled built auto lsd's.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rAiyc1njpAw&feature=related


ive only been on this site for a year. so dont say i knocked you for your 60 degrees.

bubba428
03-16-2009, 01:02 AM
my 3.4/3400 is a few steps beyond that. .512 lift and24# injectors, and a few other little tid bits. I should finish it just for the pimp points...thats it. dropping the 3.4 back in wednesday, ordering the last parts tomorrow...buick is on indeffinite stand by

NastyEllEssWon
03-16-2009, 01:07 AM
the pink one is cammed

bubba428
03-16-2009, 01:10 AM
my cam is better lol dude your getting me all exited...I've go too much crap to do already

BigAls87Z28
03-16-2009, 01:46 AM
The 3.5 and 3.9 are of the same beast.
the 3.6 is a different animal.
The 3.5 and 3.9 are of the OHV 60* V6. And I was under the imperssion that the updated 3.5/3.9 intakes are different. I know that the 3.9's is with teh dual runner set up.
Both the current 3.5 and 3.9 offer VVT as well.

bubba428
03-16-2009, 04:25 AM
I know the 3500 upper/lower intake combo doesn't fit under an F-body cowl, but you can use the 3400 upper on the 3500 lower

98tadriver
03-16-2009, 06:20 AM
lol @ bubba post! skinnyguy, its best you keep quiet before you are on the same boat as the single bank turbo guy :lol:

98tadriver
03-16-2009, 06:22 AM
Im still amazing that you think that this car should be pushing near 700hp. Thats what it comes down too.
Even if you magicly doubled your current output, had no problems, you STILL woulnt have enough to make 11's.
Its not going to happen. Id say that when you fail, you pay ALL of our pit passes that show up to see it. Im not gunna waste my 25 bucks to sit there and see you destroy the 14 second barrier.
You better start looking through old Army surplus for some rocket motors if you expect 10s.

JATO FTW!!!

12secondv6
03-16-2009, 08:27 AM
10's???? You should set a realistic goal.

With the power, mods and speculation, I would say maybe a 4 or 3 second 1/4 mile. I wouldn't be surprised to see a 2 sec 1/4 mile if you up the boost

:nod::rofl:

project89
03-16-2009, 09:13 AM
im going to e-town to witness this trainwreck in person. if its half as entertaining as my last 10 minutes reading 6 pages filled with wtf's and desktop dyno numbers.


boosting a block with two welded holes in it doesnt seem like a solid start for your platform build. might i suggest replacing that 3.1 with a later model 3.8...hell even a 3.4.

iirc the 3.1 and 3.4 are both 60 degree v6's and are interchangable. hell it might be worth it to you to look into www.60degreev6.com. also im not sure but you might be able to toss on some heads from the newer fwd 3500 v6's. if you can id look into going that way because they flow better than 3400 heads ported and polished at their best.

theres plenty of options for the 60 degree v6's that you should look into if your actually serious.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/Corsica-goes-129-106_193741.htm

thats a video of a 3400 v6 turbo at 10 psi doing 12.9 in a fwd corsica. the guy is on 60degv6 i believe and has tons of info on this type of application and tuning.


block dosent have "holes" in it and it was only a quick repair for the dyno,
i just droped off my spare block at the machine shop to have it line bored and honed, soon as i get it back my internals are getting swaped over to it

as far as that corrsica ive matched his times.every time he went out and ran last year i would go out the next week and run the same time if not faster with the same amount of boost with a smaller turbo.

3xxx topend swaps dont impress me,for as much more as those heads flow on paper,my car and the alumin head cars are all within .1 of a second et wise, and ive gfot 173ci compared to the 200+ those guys are using


i will give the alumin heads are much nicer in an n/a application with guys making almost 300 hp na but there having trouble with spinning rod bearings

60degreev6 is the whole reason my car even went to the dyno

NastyEllEssWon
03-16-2009, 04:19 PM
block dosent have "holes" in it and it was only a quick repair for the dyno,
i just droped off my spare block at the machine shop to have it line bored and honed, soon as i get it back my internals are getting swaped over to it

as far as that corrsica ive matched his times.every time he went out and ran last year i would go out the next week and run the same time if not faster with the same amount of boost with a smaller turbo.

3xxx topend swaps dont impress me,for as much more as those heads flow on paper,my car and the alumin head cars are all within .1 of a second et wise, and ive gfot 173ci compared to the 200+ those guys are using


i will give the alumin heads are much nicer in an n/a application with guys making almost 300 hp na but there having trouble with spinning rod bearings

60degreev6 is the whole reason my car even went to the dyno




look at the numbers. 3400 heads outflow 3.1 heads. 3500 heads outflow ported and polished 3400 heads. ask anyone over on 60degree its true.



you know that vid you posted i just watched it. the only time i could see clearly was the 13.4. the last one kinda looked likea 13.9.


i wanna see your car in person and seriously look into the intake swaps. 3.1s are pretty choked on the top end

project89
03-16-2009, 06:18 PM
look at the numbers. 3400 heads outflow 3.1 heads. 3500 heads outflow ported and polished 3400 heads. ask anyone over on 60degree its true.



you know that vid you posted i just watched it. the only time i could see clearly was the 13.4. the last one kinda looked likea 13.9.


i wanna see your car in person and seriously look into the intake swaps. 3.1s are pretty choked on the top end

i know the 3400 and 3500 heads flow more on a flow bench but ive also kept up with all the boosted head swap cars, so obviously somethign is wrong with those heads in boosted apps.

in n/a applications those heads have proven themselves as the way to go.

when i ran faster then the Corsica, it was with a much smaller motor,smaller turbo and the same boost, that should not be for a head that flows 50 or whatever cfm better

pause the video again when the scoreboard lights up it clearly reads 13.008 @104.65

hell give me a few mins to find my slips from that night and ill post those

as far as intakes i have a sheet metal manifold that i have yet to run

Jersyboyy
03-16-2009, 06:21 PM
My beater has a 3.4 bottem end with a 2.8 top end swap already :)

project89
03-16-2009, 06:22 PM
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/slip.jpg
http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j39/lethalrides2k3/club%20mystify/0917082257.jpg

12secondv6
03-16-2009, 07:22 PM
Times of my wife's elantra:
http://www.viperalley.com/gallery/data/500/medium/11_107_jeep.jpg

Posting time slips are silly

bubba428
03-16-2009, 08:15 PM
is that the infamous tgo slip?

NJ346
03-16-2009, 08:25 PM
ummm....it's still a V6...that's real cool:banghead:

NastyEllEssWon
03-16-2009, 08:27 PM
its all how you match up the intakes. iirc the 3400 upper intake flows better than the 3500 upper intake but the 3500 lower intake outflows the 3400 intake. you know just kicking **** in a bucket here but you have a turbo car. dont you want the air/fuel getting through your motor the quickest way possible? if not then you dont wanna run 10s. cause its not gonna happen on a stock 3.1 intake thats for sure

bubba428
03-16-2009, 08:49 PM
stop wasting your breath, I know your trying to save face for the 60*v6 but its just not worth it. this guys got a head full of mush. I've tried to do what your doing now. Just walk away before you get too involved.

project89
03-16-2009, 09:06 PM
stop wasting your breath, I know your trying to save face for the 60*v6 but its just not worth it. this guys got a head full of mush. I've tried to do what your doing now. Just walk away before you get too involved.
tried and failed.



anyways i already have a new sheet metal manifold its just a matter of time before i get it on.

LTb1ow
03-16-2009, 09:09 PM
Why?

sweetbmxrider
03-16-2009, 09:15 PM
i wanna see this thing go in person. please post when you go racing!

BigAls87Z28
03-16-2009, 09:25 PM
Oh, there will most deff be a shore gathering.
The Black Sheep of NJFBOA will be there to show an total lack of support.

NastyEllEssWon
03-16-2009, 09:27 PM
oh yeah sheet metal works real well for an intake manifold. how hot do you plan on running this thing? you know the colder the air is the more dense it is which means more air you can volumetrically fit inside the combustion chamber, which means more fuel require which means more power.



im done. your dumb. lock this damn thread someone please

project89
03-16-2009, 09:38 PM
oh yeah sheet metal works real well for an intake manifold. how hot do you plan on running this thing? you know the colder the air is the more dense it is which means more air you can volumetrically fit inside the combustion chamber, which means more fuel require which means more power.



im done. your dumb. lock this damn thread someone please

yeah cause tons and tons of ppl dont use sheet metal intakes.
i quess there doing it wrong to.

j0n
03-16-2009, 10:54 PM
So I was linked to this thread and while it started out entertaining, it's turned into the typical lethalrides BS. So here's a public offer for you Dave, Rob, w/e your name is. Name the date, time, track, and how much money you'd like to lose. I will be bringing a true bolt-on only street car. Best of 3 passes wins. Time to put up or shut up.

bubba428
03-16-2009, 11:35 PM
tried and failed.

I did fail, obviously your dumbassedness is so great you can even realize when somebody says they tried to help you not be retarded. cause the 1st thing I do when I **** up and somebody says "i tried to help" is say "AND YOU FAILED!!"

Oh, there will most deff be a shore gathering.
The Black Sheep of NJFBOA will be there to show an total lack of support.

sweet, is that a mandatory appearance for me?

Car pool and heavy drinking?

sounds like a plan

Back to the possibility of a 300hp car running 10's.

well the way I figure it, if he took out the rear and front passenger seats, the heat/ac box, carpet and sound material, head liner, center console, interior trim, dash pad/dash, inner fenders, front sway bar, bumper support, bumper, fenders, head lights, tail lights, seat belts, hatch, doors, took the fluid out of the trans, ran with no coolant (again), and windsheild. he should theroetically be able to make the car just about light enough

Tru2Chevy
03-17-2009, 04:34 PM
oh yeah sheet metal works real well for an intake manifold. how hot do you plan on running this thing? you know the colder the air is the more dense it is which means more air you can volumetrically fit inside the combustion chamber, which means more fuel require which means more power.

http://www.hogansracingmanifolds.com/index.aspx

Sheet metal intakes are A+ when it comes to cramming the most air you can into an engine....

- Justin

Street Lethal
03-17-2009, 05:50 PM
Name the date, time, track, and how much money you'd like to lose. I will be bringing a true bolt-on only street car. Best of 3 passes wins. Time to put up or shut up.....

.... a little info on your ride please?

NJSPEEDER
03-17-2009, 05:53 PM
j0n = C5 6spd, full weight, bolt ons w/tire

Perhaps this can go down the same night that you and I go to Etown. He is fairly local to the track as well I believe. If/when, let me know so I can video tape.

j0n
03-17-2009, 06:02 PM
.... a little info on your ride please?

True bolt-on LS1 street car.

Also, I need at least 2 weeks notice since I actually work for a living, and will need to get the day off if I'm scheduled to work

Street Lethal
03-17-2009, 06:13 PM
True bolt-on LS1 street car. Also, I need at least 2 weeks notice since I actually work for a living, and will need to get the day off if I'm scheduled to work....

Not sure what your trying to imply with you actually working for a living, but I can assure you that I do as well, so all sarcasm aside, is it safe to assume by your response that you want to race me instead of Dave....?

Street Lethal
03-17-2009, 06:17 PM
Perhaps this can go down the same night that you and I go to Etown. He is fairly local to the track as well I believe. If/when, let me know so I can video tape....

I don't think we ever met yet speeder, but I'm always down to put some actual faces on some of the UserID's I come across <smile>. I see your a mod over at thirdgen.org, but you rarely post over there though. Can't say I don't blame ya, it's gotten a little too commercial over there to tell you the truth....

-Rob

j0n
03-17-2009, 06:27 PM
Not sure what your trying to imply with you actually working for a living, but I can assure you that I do as well, so all sarcasm aside, is it safe to assume by your response that you want to race me instead of Dave....?

I really don't care.... whoever claims to own the steaming pile of crap car on that particular day, seeing as how the owner seems to change by the hour.

Tru2Chevy
03-17-2009, 06:33 PM
Street Lethal:

No one is talking about you here - Dave's old screen name on this site was Lethalrides 2k3, so when people refer to lethal or lethalrides in this thread they are talking about him.

- Justin

sweetbmxrider
03-17-2009, 06:34 PM
wait who is who and owns what now? i so confused

NJSPEEDER
03-17-2009, 06:35 PM
I don't think we ever met yet speeder, but I'm always down to put some actual faces on some of the UserID's I come across <smile>. I see your a mod over at thirdgen.org, but you rarely post over there though. Can't say I don't blame ya, it's gotten a little too commercial over there to tell you the truth....

-Rob

I left there long long before they sold to internet brands. That site went to crap a long long time ago. 99% of their tech info is wrong or misleading, they have some really really bad mods, and they have no interest in correcting any of it.

Shame is that I was a member of that site when it was still on the original host and there were maybe 100 members.

Street Lethal
03-17-2009, 06:42 PM
Street Lethal:

No one is talking about you here - Dave's old screen name on this site was Lethalrides 2k3, so when people refer to lethal or lethalrides in this thread they are talking about him.

- Justin

Hey Justin, how are you. I hear ya, but look at the post above you, he's getting lost in his own words because he's relating Dave to me. I just asked what he was running, mainly because if money is involved both sides need to be embellished beforehand. But anyways, yeah, I'm glad I found this thread so I can clear that up with everyone. I'd like to meet up with some of you guys soon, and the beers will be on me.... :)

-Rob

Tru2Chevy
03-17-2009, 06:42 PM
wait who is who and owns what now? i so confused

Project89 = Dave = owner of the turbo v6 3rd gen. His old screen name here was Lethalrides 2k3

Street Lethal = Rob = Apparently a friend of Dave's....

- Justin

Street Lethal
03-17-2009, 06:49 PM
I left there long long before they sold to internet brands. That site went to crap a long long time ago. 99% of their tech info is wrong or misleading, they have some really really bad mods, and they have no interest in correcting any of it. Shame is that I was a member of that site when it was still on the original host and there were maybe 100 members....

I was there way back then too, then I lost my account and reopened it in '03. With Tim (Traxion) bolting to the STI crowd, Pablo heading over to Turbo Buicks, and with Grumpy passing away, it was never really the same anymore w/tech. Hell, even Vader rarely posts there anymore. I definitely agree w/you regarding the mods....

project89
03-17-2009, 06:50 PM
Project89 = Dave = owner of the turbo v6 3rd gen. His old screen name here was Lethalrides 2k3

Street Lethal = Rob = Apparently a friend of Dave's....

- Justin
holy hell it took u dam guys long enough, even though it was stated at like post #6
:rofl:

Tsar
03-17-2009, 06:57 PM
I really don't care.... whoever claims to own the steaming pile of crap car

This is priceless. I hope I can make this!

Street Lethal
03-17-2009, 07:06 PM
holy hell it took u dam guys long enough, even though it was stated at like post #6 :rofl:

.... set something up with one of them already will ya. It's obviously going to have to happen over at Atco, so pick a day in which will give everyone involved enough time to plan for it.

sweetbmxrider
03-17-2009, 07:31 PM
holy hell it took u dam guys long enough, even though it was stated at like post #6
:rofl:

i never read post 6, EVER!

set it up!

bubba428
03-17-2009, 07:32 PM
O man crunch time...what car to take, do I slap my 350 back together and run a half assed buick? or do I drop the V6 back in and beat on it untuned?

either way it'll be awesome to finally see this guy get owned

Tsar
03-17-2009, 07:44 PM
O man crunch time...what car to take, do I slap my 350 back together and run a half assed buick? or do I drop the V6 back in and beat on it untuned?

either way it'll be awesome to finally see this guy get owned
j0n will take care of it, your car will just fall apart.

Blackbirdws6
03-17-2009, 07:54 PM
Since when did 13.0 slips become 12's? Got this comment off streetfire.

Posted by 1badv63rdgen (OP) -
"cars been into the 12's and should now easily go into the 11;s.once we get it dialed in and start cranking the boost i should be able to run 10.90's with it, which is the goal to hit with it "

Mike
03-17-2009, 08:24 PM
if anything conflicts with j0ns schedule, we can bring my bolt on only 99 t/a out as well. or hell, even the trailblazer

NJSPEEDER
03-17-2009, 08:27 PM
.... set something up with one of them already will ya. It's obviously going to have to happen over at Atco, so pick a day in which will give everyone involved enough time to plan for it.

Why would it have to be at Atco?

project89
03-17-2009, 08:32 PM
Why would it have to be at Atco?

cause thats were id want to run

im waiting on a few things for my car still

new drive shaft
install transbrake
still needs to be tuned
and my 4 inch ex which i have just need to install

ill be ready first week in april or atleast should be


but i think rob has a few challenges for u guys if ur up for it :rofl:

Street Lethal
03-17-2009, 08:38 PM
Why would it have to be at Atco?

My buddy Scott won't tech it for him unless another party drives it, they're not as anal w/tech over at Atco so it won't be a problem. If everyone would rather Englishtown though, something could be worked out I'm sure, that's if another driver doesn't bother anyone, of course. Would also like to get the Grand National in on the fun, any takers....?

project89
03-17-2009, 08:58 PM
:shrug:

NJSPEEDER
03-17-2009, 09:03 PM
My buddy Scott won't tech it for him unless another party drives it, they're not as anal w/tech over at Atco so it won't be a problem. If everyone would rather Englishtown though, something could be worked out I'm sure, that's if another driver doesn't bother anyone, of course. Would also like to get the Grand National in on the fun, any takers....?


So basically you are saying his car is a POS and won't pass even a mild tech? That's just friggin fantastic. I guess if we needed proof that your hand of hacker was involved in the car we just got it.

How does the GN sit? Depending on how far into the summer this goes I may have something for it.

j0n
03-17-2009, 09:07 PM
cause thats were id want to run

ill be ready first week in april or atleast should be

but i think rob has a few challenges for u guys if ur up for it :rofl:

My buddy Scott won't tech it for him unless another party drives it, they're not as anal w/tech over at Atco so it won't be a problem. If everyone would rather Englishtown though, something could be worked out I'm sure, that's if another driver doesn't bother anyone, of course. Would also like to get the Grand National in on the fun, any takers....?

Why am I not surprised with the "my friend/dad/mom/uncle/gay lover's/other car" BS? The turd-tacular piece of crap single-bank turbo v6 "little cutie" car was called out. I would prefer the owner of the car to drive it, in order to make the victory just that much sweeter, but I can compromise on driver if necessary.

Once again so there is no confusion... No buick's, no "my friend's father's grandma's lesbian lover's car", just the craptastic v6 turbo turd gen. Man up or go crawl back into your hole.

project89
03-17-2009, 09:10 PM
So basically you are saying his car is a POS and won't pass even a mild tech? That's just friggin fantastic. I guess if we needed proof that your hand of hacker was involved in the car we just got it.

How does the GN sit? Depending on how far into the summer this goes I may have something for it.


car passes tech just fine, i dont, liscence is suspended again

gn is a full street car with ac

edit


make the the only thing i get bitched about at tech is my non open ended lugs but it still passes

NJSPEEDER
03-17-2009, 09:13 PM
car passes tech just fine, i dont, liscence is suspended again

And? I have never had my license checked at the track. I just write the number on the tech card and hand that to them.

gn is a full street car with ac

Stock? Bolt ons? Built? Street or Strip tire?
Some information would be useful if you expect to get some action with it.

project89
03-17-2009, 09:17 PM
And? I have never had my license checked at the track. I just write the number on the tech card and hand that to them.



Stock? Bolt ons? Built? Street or Strip tire?
Some information would be useful if you expect to get some action with it.


the check mine, i got caught end of last season,so i cant run at e-town myself till may 19th i think is when ill have it back

dot drag radial,non gutted,upgraded turbo,heads, and roller cam,meth injection and a precision front mount

LTb1ow
03-17-2009, 09:17 PM
LT1 will take your car!

NJ346
03-17-2009, 09:24 PM
hell... put me in line...my cars got 185K on it and it'll still take your turbo car.

LTb1ow
03-17-2009, 09:24 PM
So when is this embarrassing day for ya going down?

NJSPEEDER
03-17-2009, 09:26 PM
dot drag radial,non gutted,upgraded turbo,heads, and roller cam,meth injection and a precision front mount

Interesting sounding piece, more than I have anything for right now, but if you are willing to talk about it in the future I should have something together later in the warm weather.

Street Lethal
03-17-2009, 09:37 PM
So basically you are saying his car is a POS and won't pass even a mild tech? That's just friggin fantastic. I guess if we needed proof that your hand of hacker was involved in the car we just got it. How does the GN sit? Depending on how far into the summer this goes I may have something for it....

It's not the car that won't pass, there was a little misunderstanding last year, that's all. The car itself will pass tech, but only w/another driver. It's really not that big of a deal. Atco won't be a problem though. Either way, a track is a track, you guys pick it. Just wanted to let everyone know ahead of time about that situation so there are no surprises later on....

Not a problem as far as the summer, as of right now the Grand National isn't going anywhere in terms of selling, and we pretty much live at the track anyways during the season, so whenever your build is finished will be fine. It doesn't matter to me what the opposition is running, so getting into the jist of the engines characteristics would be pointless on my end, nor would I ask you about your build in return. It's basically run what you brung....

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa58/Street-Lethal/GrandNational-1.jpg

LTb1ow
03-17-2009, 09:38 PM
There are more tubes than engine! :wink:

Looks sweet!

Street Lethal
03-17-2009, 09:44 PM
There are more tubes than engine! :wink: Looks sweet!

Thanks man.

project89
03-17-2009, 09:48 PM
speaking of witch we hitting e-town tom night??

It's not the car that won't pass, there was a little misunderstanding last year, that's all. The car itself will pass tech, but only w/another driver. It's really not that big of a deal. Atco won't be a problem though. Either way, a track is a track, you guys pick it. Just wanted to let everyone know ahead of time about that situation so there are no surprises later on....

Not a problem as far as the summer, as of right now the Grand National isn't going anywhere in terms of selling, and we pretty much live at the track anyways during the season, so whenever your build is finished will be fine. It doesn't matter to me what the opposition is running, so getting into the jist of the engines characteristics would be pointless on my end, nor would I ask you about your build in return. It's basically run what you brung....

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa58/Street-Lethal/GrandNational-1.jpg

Street Lethal
03-17-2009, 09:51 PM
speaking of witch we hitting e-town tom night??

I know I am, are you though lol....? ;)

j0n
03-17-2009, 09:53 PM
So should I take your complete lack of acknowledgment of my posts to mean you have no faith in your piece of crap car and refuse to race my slow bolt-on ride?

project89
03-17-2009, 09:54 PM
I know I am, are you though lol....? ;)
i have no clue, wanna drive my car out tommorow if i can get the ignition issue fixed intime?

LTb1ow
03-17-2009, 09:56 PM
i have no clue, wanna drive my car out tommorow if i can get the ignition issue fixed intime?

I would hope he has good life insurance....

project89
03-17-2009, 09:56 PM
So should I take your complete lack of acknowledgment of my posts to mean you have no faith in your piece of crap car and refuse to race my slow bolt-on ride?

see previous page of crap i need to finish before i race anyone, when the cars done well run

Mike
03-17-2009, 09:59 PM
i thought you said several times it just needed the tune fixed, and that you would be good after it got back on the dyno?

j0n
03-17-2009, 10:00 PM
see previous page of crap i need to finish before i race anyone, when the cars done well run

Date, track, and wager please. You said it should be done by April so pick a day and we can get the ball rolling. Otherwise all you're doing is spewing your typical BS.

Street Lethal
03-17-2009, 10:01 PM
i have no clue, wanna drive my car out tommorow if i can get the ignition issue fixed intime?

Can't, they're cracking down on tech about drivers in multiple cars, plus tomorrow night is going to be absolutely mobbed. Just get the ignition issue resolved man, there's always Sunday over by Atco....

project89
03-17-2009, 10:02 PM
i thought you said several times it just needed the tune fixed, and that you would be good after it got back on the dyno?

its fine to run after the dyno and retune, but since im going with a trans brake i highly doubt the stock ds is gonna last more then 1-2 passes so that kinda needs to be done.

u really didnt think i was gonna run anyone without a few more mods did ya

rob they dont care as long as u have a tech card for each car ur driving

Street Lethal
03-17-2009, 10:03 PM
I would hope he has good life insurance....

.... lol! :D

NJ346
03-17-2009, 10:04 PM
its fine to run after the dyno and retune, but since im going with a trans brake i highly doubt the stock ds is gonna last more then 1-2 passes so that kinda needs to be done.


You really think that dud has enough power to break the ds:rofl: