What's going on with LS1tech? [Archive] - NJFBOA - Home of New Jersey's Camaros and Firebirds

red97z

03-21-2009, 11:55 AM

LS1tech was sold in 2007 to Internet Brands, like the InBev of beverage companies, but for automotive websites and various forums. They gave the owners, psj and nb 2 years to still have their hands in the site, then they were out. Well, that 2 years is up, and NB has started a new site, planetlsx.com using the member database from seatstaysup, not the ls1tech.com database. Internet Brands is filing legal action against them for this, although they didnt use the ls1tech member list for their new site. from what I understand that is what is going on, and this has caused many longtime members and moderators to boycott the site.

NJ346

03-21-2009, 12:10 PM

link to thread? i didn't even know anything was going on...

sweetbmxrider

03-21-2009, 12:27 PM

yeah what?

Tru2Chevy

03-21-2009, 06:29 PM

Wow....didn't realize that they were only keeping nineball and PSJ around for 2 years. Just based on a quick look at the Racer's Lounge on LS1Tech, I think things there will be getting much quieter soon. NB and PSJ both have a huge following, and I'm sure a lot of people will jump to PLSX and not look back save for the occasional search through old tech threads.

Of course, LS1Tech isn't going to be closing it's doors anytime soon - there will still be plenty of action there.

- Justin

Tru2Chevy

03-21-2009, 06:34 PM

link to thread? i didn't even know anything was going on...

Here's a few from the Racer's Lounge on LS1Tech:

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/racers-lounge/1086218-my-final-thread-lounge-moderator-super-moderator-ls1tech-com.html

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/racers-lounge/1086157-thank-you-ls1tech-but-goodbye.html

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/racers-lounge/1086483-leaving-site.html

Planet LSX forums: (335 threads and 3,285 posts in 2 days....not bad)

http://www.planetlsx.com/forums/index.php

- Justin

NJ346

03-21-2009, 06:43 PM

wow. 27 staff members have already stepped down
1. Onfire
2. unit213
3. blownchevy
4. XtinctZ28
5. BigBronco
6. Vendetta
7. horist
8. orangeapeel
9. cyphur
10. Toxic Texan
11. Patman
12. Reckless
13. frcefed98
14. Richiec77
15. Nine Ball
16. Pro Stock John
17. Brains
18. OctaneZ28
19. Scooter70
20. Speed Density
21. Supercharged
22. Project Camaro
23. phantomzer0
24. TAQuickness
25. StoleIt
26. Slow Z28
27. Ragtop_99

(goes to sign up on planetlsx.com)

BigAls87Z28

03-21-2009, 08:39 PM

LS1's suck anyway

LS3.com FTW!!

NastyEllEssWon

03-21-2009, 08:59 PM

ive already made the move to plsx. haha this is gonna be interesting to see where it leads.

foff667

03-21-2009, 11:01 PM

Yeah we are a sponsor over there but its gonna be utter chaos with all mods & even several admins stepping down over there.

NJ Torque

03-21-2009, 11:52 PM

hmm.. im already signed up apparenlty.

Mike

03-22-2009, 12:01 AM

hmm.. im already signed up apparenlty.

if your a member at ssu, then your already registered

NJ Torque

03-22-2009, 12:13 AM

if your a member at ssu, then your already registered

schwwing.

enRo

03-22-2009, 02:52 AM

Im curious to see how much they sold LS1tech for

GrandmasterCow

03-22-2009, 02:58 AM

oh that sucks

Knipps

03-22-2009, 03:13 AM

ahhh so that's what the email about plsx was about, I didn't even read it yet

MonmouthCtyAntz

03-22-2009, 06:09 AM

Yea your post counts start over though :rofl:

NJ Torque

03-22-2009, 07:29 AM

Apparently it was over google ads...

LuvMyF8LWS6

03-22-2009, 09:04 AM

Very Interesting. I loved LS1tech :-(

7998

03-22-2009, 09:15 AM

The biggest problem with Tech is the search is in utter chaos. Which in my opinion was the best part of the site. If you wanted to know how a certain mod i.e (header swap, intake install) peformed or the best way to do the job, Tech was great for that.

NJ346

03-22-2009, 10:26 AM

Im curious to see how much they sold LS1tech for

I'd imagine a couple million. Considering the garage that PSJ and Nine ball have.

Ian

03-22-2009, 10:49 AM

interesting. to see that many mods and admins step down like that really says something.

also, I didnt know Vendetta was from Jersey.

Tsar

03-22-2009, 11:14 AM

if your a member at ssu, then your already registered
And if you are a member of Ls1tech, you are automatically a member of ssu!

Sounds like the NYMEX v. Intercontinental Exchange inc. .. well a little :lol:

LTb1ow

03-22-2009, 11:32 AM

Wait, so the owners of LS1tech sell it, and then two years later when its official, start up another site and everyone leaves tech to join? Doesn't seem very ethical at all....

Mike

03-22-2009, 01:32 PM

And if you are a member of Ls1tech, you are automatically a member of ssu!

Sounds like the NYMEX v. Intercontinental Exchange inc. .. well a little :lol:

no.... if you joined ssu or ls1tech in the last 2 years (post IB purchasing tech) than you wouldn't automatically be on both because they didn't sell ssu.

but that is why IB is suing nineball and psj

Tsar

03-22-2009, 02:44 PM

no.... if you joined ssu or ls1tech in the last 2 years (post IB purchasing tech) than you wouldn't automatically be on both because they didn't sell ssu.

but that is why IB is suing nineball and psj
Are they claiming that the database is copyrightable material?

LTb1ow

03-22-2009, 02:57 PM

Prob. I would be pissed if I bought a company and then all the employees and contracts left to go join the same boss but in a different building...

Tsar

03-22-2009, 03:18 PM

Prob. I would be pissed if I bought a company and then all the employees and contracts left to go join the same boss but in a different building...

Well they are not paid (not employees or IC's) so they are free to go whenever they please, so are the people. If they stooped copying the database to ssu after they sold the site to IB than I think they will fail (IB suit that is). Plus a database is not always copyrightable. :shrug:

LTb1ow

03-22-2009, 03:24 PM

Granted but the members and mods of a site dictate how well the site gets sponsored and in turn makes money.

Tsar

03-22-2009, 03:27 PM

Granted but the members and mods of a site dictate how well the site gets sponsored and in turn makes money.
True, but you can't make them stay. :lol:

Were they suppose to leave after a certain period of time, after the take over? Or did they just decided to leave at the same time?

NJ346

03-22-2009, 03:37 PM

True, but you can't make them stay. :lol:

Were they suppose to leave after a certain period of time, after the take over? Or did they just decided to leave at the same time?

PSJ and Nineball agreed to stay on for 2 years to help transfer ownership. The 2 years ended last week, thus, all of the departures.

Tru2Chevy

03-22-2009, 03:53 PM

Internet Brands bought LS1Tech in the spring of 2007, and in their purchase agreement NineBall and ProStockJohn were going to stay on as forum administrators for 2 years, then they would be removed from their administrator positions. When IB bought LS1Tech (along with it's sister sites PerfomanceTrucks.net, Mod Motor Tech, and Modern Hemi) they either didn't want Seat Stays Up, or agreed to let NineBall and PSJ keep that forum for themselves. Before the sale to IB, the user databases of all 5 of these sites were the same. If you registered on one of these sites, your username and password would work on all of them.

What NineBall and PSJ did was take a backup of the userlist from SeatStaysUp that was taken just before the sale to IB, and use it on their new forum, PlanetLSX.

As far as what was written in the contract of the sale, we can only speculate, but if IB didn't have anything in the contract regarding "ownership" of the database in use on SeatStaysUp, I don't think they have any legal grounds to stand on here.

Of course, IB owns close to 100 automotive sites (along with tons of others, including vBulletin), so I would imagine that they have a pretty good contract developed by now.....but I guess we'll wait and see.

- Justin

BigAls87Z28

03-22-2009, 04:10 PM

Wow, very ugly indeed.
When AutoForums bought GMI, they were more then happy to leave us be and only support us with technical problems. They have been great so far, have not forced anyone out, or caused any problems. I do remember when we came out with the news, the regular base of people paniced and started losing thier mind, but then settled down.
So far, no problems and in fact have helped us improve our relationship and patch up problems with GM.

sweetbmxrider

03-22-2009, 07:41 PM

Well they are not paid (not employees or IC's) so they are free to go whenever they please, so are the people. If they stooped copying the database to ssu after they sold the site to IB than I think they will fail (IB suit that is). Plus a database is not always copyrightable. :shrug:

i believe they were paid + perks and freebies

Mike

03-22-2009, 07:45 PM

i believe they were paid + perks and freebies

mods were volunteers just like here........they did get special gp's and pricing from some sponsors though

sweetbmxrider

03-22-2009, 09:21 PM

mods were volunteers just like here........they did get special gp's and pricing from some sponsors though

really? i guess they all bull ****ted pretty good in this one thread :lol:

Mike

03-22-2009, 09:25 PM

the admins were payed, and MAYBE the supermods, not the rest

sweetbmxrider

03-22-2009, 09:26 PM

yeah i would think that as well

Mike

03-22-2009, 09:28 PM

as "honorable" as they seem with the mass departure, you think they would have left if they were collecting a paycheck to prune threads once a night? in this economy?

LTb1ow

03-22-2009, 09:29 PM

Better money could make you leave, right? ;)

DevilDougWS6

03-22-2009, 09:30 PM

thats friggin gay. all those articles, and mod threads, and **** like that hopefully stay there. but people are going to be heading to the new site now. its all such a huge mess.

LTb1ow

03-22-2009, 09:31 PM

Ohhh boo hoo, LS1 guys can't reset their oil lits now.... sooo sad. :(

NJ346

03-22-2009, 09:32 PM

thats friggin gay. all those articles, and mod threads, and **** like that hopefully stay there. but people are going to be heading to the new site now. its all such a huge mess.

I honestly don't think a lot of people know about it. All of the good bye threads and other cancer of LS1tech is in the racer's lounge. I didn't know about it until this thread. The new Admin IB Adrian is doing a pretty good job of deleting those good bye threads and it will probably take a while for every1 to figure out what's going on.

NJ346

03-22-2009, 09:32 PM

Ohhh boo hoo, LS1 guys can't reset their oil lits now.... sooo sad. :(

Matt...let me know when your lt1 is ready to run.....I'll be waiting:twisted:

Mike

03-22-2009, 09:34 PM

LTb1ow

03-22-2009, 09:41 PM

Matt...let me know when your lt1 is ready to run.....I'll be waiting:twisted:

Just needs tires.

And in all seriousness, LS1 cars are getting to where LT1 cars where when the LS1 came out, dirt cheap and falling.... Its hey day is over and the tech and knowledge is going to move to the newer platforms along with the sponsers and money....

Jersyboyy

03-22-2009, 09:55 PM

Just needs tires.

And in all seriousness, LS1 cars are getting to where LT1 cars where when the LS1 came out, dirt cheap and falling.... Its hey day is over and the tech and knowledge is going to move to the newer platforms along with the sponsers and money....

Basically my exact same words when having a conversation with a buddy of mine about todays cars. Well put my friend well put.

And like njnetsfan as soon as my cars done well have to see what that lt1s got. :lol:

LTb1ow

03-22-2009, 09:58 PM

It has an opti, and its better than you.

NJ346

03-23-2009, 05:32 AM

Just needs tires.

And in all seriousness, LS1 cars are getting to where LT1 cars where when the LS1 came out, dirt cheap and falling.... Its hey day is over and the tech and knowledge is going to move to the newer platforms along with the sponsers and money....

ehh, unlike the Lt1, the Ls1 was an all new design and all of the newer engines are based off of the LS1. Ls1 is still a very popular motor, yes, there are better engines out there(LS3). But like I said, any Lt1 is free to have a shot at my car. Instead of all these internet jokes, lets see what everyone has.:wink:

Frosty

03-23-2009, 07:26 AM

google adds suck, the new search function sucks, once people realize **** isnt getting edited or deleted or locked, all kinds of bs threads will start

its the beginning of the end for that site being useful

The same search is on Corvette Forum, in fact I think IB bought them too. I was searching for a thread I made selling F45 shocks and it wouldn't come up in search, same with Tech, apparently it takes a few WEEKS for the thread to come up in search. I don't know a damn thing about databases but I would assume it's a setting IB has control of.

35thls1ss19

03-23-2009, 08:14 AM

interesting. to see that many mods and admins step down like that really says something.

also, I didnt know Vendetta was from Jersey.

he lives down near boonton. i met him when he used to have a supercahrged lt1. nice kid