Dodge Viper goes 10's STOCK

[12secondv6]

Stock 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 Convertible runs 10’s

March 24th, 2009

Most would agree that the latest Dodge Viper with its dyno proven 600+ HP and 3,450 curb weight “should” be able to run 10’s in the 1/4 mile while still in stock form. Although there have been many attempts that have come close, nobody had cracked into the 10’s in a bone stock Viper until now.

Jamie Furman took his brand new 2008 Dodge Viper SRT10 convertible with just 100 miles on the odometer out to Maryland International Raceway during a private track rental to give it a try. After 4 runs in the very low 11’s, he ended up running a 10.92 @ 129.79 MPH with a 1.76 60′ time. Weather was in the 50’s for the run with a Density Altitude (DA) of around -915 feet.

Jamie’s previous attempts at a 10 second stock Viper pass was done ins his new 2009 Viper ACR back in October 2008 running an 11.07 @ 129.8 MPH. By looking at the timeslips, it looks like either Viper can make it into the 10’s with the proper launch, shifting and weather. Congrats to Jamie for a great record breaking run.

http://www.dragtimes.com/images_timeslip/17936-2009-Dodge-Viper-Timeslip.jpg



Video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gTevFbLfm3g


Daaaayum!

[DevilDougWS6]

nice. about time. i think with 600hp to the wheels anything should be able to do better than 10s. barely a 10 second run at that.

[Tsar]

In before everyone hates on dodge for whatever reason.


Funny if sub it with some GM car it would be one hell of a nutswinging party.

[NJSPEEDER]

Damn! I wanna see what it does on a tire, it may go 9's

[DevilDougWS6]

seems they got the driver mod down....definitely run it on some drs.....or dare i say it....SLICKS

most guys buy vipers to look snobby and rich...this guys beats his up lol

[baddest434]

nice run! talk about hot lapping, look at the times on the last 2 timeslips:rofl:

[Featherburner]

Very impressive!

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Some DAMN good driving right there.

[NJSPEEDER]

nice run! talk about hot lapping, look at the times on the last 2 timeslips:rofl:

damn, didn't even notice that. Looks like he took 3 passes, went and got lunch and came back with a launch idea that worked.

[Batman]

Wow and it only took 100+HP more then a Z06 which there are now 2 that have gone 10's on stock tires. Still friggin impressive though, trap speed is sick!

[sweetbmxrider]

that trap speed is ridic. sick though.

aren't you still supposed to be breaking in the engine with only 100 miles on the odometer? or do they come broken in already?

[98tadriver]

it will get faster once its broken in and loosened up a lil. he only cut a 60' that was .07 faster than my 60' and i was on 245's. :lol: what do vipers come with? 345's? he couldve shifted faster too

[DevilDougWS6]

maybe if he had a faceplated t56 he could shift like you ron.

[Frosty]

Wow, cool...they accomplished what the Z06 did with less power..:woot:

It's about time, the drive was pretty consistent.

[98tadriver]

maybe if he had a faceplated t56 he could shift like you ron.

its not the transmission, its the driver ;) faceplated just saves me the trouble of replacing synchros. i have older videos with the stock t56s and me in action

[98tadriver]

Wow, cool...they accomplished what the Z06 did with less power..:woot:

It's about time, the drive was pretty consistent.

lol thats what im saying!

[Clark]

If I were watching runs 3 and 4, I would have been yelling "That light ain't gettin any greener!!"

Any particular reason he was waiting?

Even on my first and only track day in my Iroc I was cutting < .1 and even one .003 leaving on 3rd yellow.

[BigAls87Z28]

Mehhh.....how exactly is a 2008 a "New" car? Its 2 model years old now. Sitting on lots much?

[NJ Torque]

Not so impressed.

[Mike]

If I were watching runs 3 and 4, I would have been yelling "That light ain't gettin any greener!!"

Any particular reason he was waiting?

Even on my first and only track day in my Iroc I was cutting < .1 and even one .003 leaving on 3rd yellow.

because if your not racing a car next to you it doesn't matter at all?

[NJSPEEDER]

Mehhh.....how exactly is a 2008 a "New" car? Its 2 model years old now. Sitting on lots much?


It's March 2009, so a 2008 model is not exactly an outdated piece.

[NJSPEEDER]

If I were watching runs 3 and 4, I would have been yelling "That light ain't gettin any greener!!"

Any particular reason he was waiting?

Even on my first and only track day in my Iroc I was cutting < .1 and even one .003 leaving on 3rd yellow.

Reaction times don't effect ET, so if you are only there to try to get a perfect run there is no reason to rush around at the tree.

[Ian]

hell of a lot faster than my car! not sure if it sounds better than my car though :lol:

[Tsar]

Not so impressed.
Why is that? give me a list of cars that can go 10's STOCK.

[GP99GT]

Why is that? give me a list of cars that can go 10's STOCK.

any LS1 vehicle

[Tsar]

any LS1 vehicle
sure :lol:

[WildBillyT]

10s stock are impressive regardless of make. Car may sound like **** :lol: but there's no denying that it's fast.

[Tsar]

10s stock are impressive regardless of make. Car may sound like **** :lol: but there's no denying that it's fast.
How can this be? according to a few "experts" in this thread the car is pitiful and not impressive at all! I'm all confused! what am I missing?

[HeadlessNorseman]

Pretty impressive. I would say itll definatley do high 9s with good tires. That is definatley not something i would be doing with 100 miles on the car either. I love the whole idea of the viper. Stuff a giant motor in a little car!

[DevilDougWS6]

its not the transmission, its the driver ;) faceplated just saves me the trouble of replacing synchros. i have older videos with the stock t56s and me in action

exactly.

[NJSPEEDER]

How can this be? according to a few "experts" in this thread the car is pitiful and not impressive at all! I'm all confused! what am I missing?

The fanboi mod

Corvette is rated at 100 hp less but also weighs 200-300 lbs less and has better weight distribution. Basically you have to decide which advantage you want, weight and weight distribution or even more brutal HP to play with.

Either way, I wouldn't refuse either one.

[Tsar]

The fanboi mod

Corvette is rated at 100 hp less but also weighs 200-300 lbs less and has better weight distribution. Basically you have to decide which advantage you want, weight and weight distribution or even more brutal HP to play with.

Either way, I wouldn't refuse either one.

Well I think it's fair to say that we all know about the Corvette. But to say that Viper isn't impressive is an asinine statement, imo. If Viper isn't impressive than neither is McLaren F1, Ferrari Enzo, or Pagani Zonda. :shrug:

[WildBillyT]

Well I think it's fair to say that we all know about the Corvette. But to say that Viper isn't impressive is an asinine statement, imo. If Viper isn't impressive than neither is McLaren F1, Ferrari Enzo, or Pagani Zonda. :shrug:


Here's a formula for impressiveness:

Given that:

e = Horsepower+Torque numbers
r = redline in RPM
t = number of gears in the transmission
c = 1 for automatic, 2 for manual, 4 for paddle shifter
g = number of g's on the skidpad
i = how many useless gee-gaws are in the interior
cf = how much carbon fiber is on it
l = overall looks and styling, equal to the number of people who say that they would buy one on a message board and then never do
bd = 1 if it has a bow tie or dart on it, 0 if it does not

IMP = .375(e)(r) + .125(t)(c) + .25(g) + .125(i)(cf) + .125(l) + 99999(bd)

[BigAls87Z28]

Here's a formula for impressiveness:

Given that:

e = Horsepower+Torque numbers
r = redline in RPM
t = number of gears in the transmission
c = 1 for automatic, 2 for manual, 4 for paddle shifter
g = number of g's on the skidpad
i = how many useless gee-gaws are in the interior
cf = how much carbon fiber is on it
l = overall looks and styling, equal to the number of people who say that they would buy one on a message board and then never do
bd = 1 if it has a bow tie or dart on it, 0 if it does not

IMP = .375(e)(r) + .125(t)(c) + .25(g) + .125(i)(cf) + .125(l) + 99999(bd)



WINNAR!!

http://image.automobilemag.com/f/multimedia/photo_gallery/8108878/0712_11z_1024x768+2009_chevrolet_corvette_ZR1+fron t_three_quarter_view.jpg

[Tsar]

Here's a formula for impressiveness:

Given that:

e = Horsepower+Torque numbers
r = redline in RPM
t = number of gears in the transmission
c = 1 for automatic, 2 for manual, 4 for paddle shifter
g = number of g's on the skidpad
i = how many useless gee-gaws are in the interior
cf = how much carbon fiber is on it
l = overall looks and styling, equal to the number of people who say that they would buy one on a message board and then never do
bd = 1 if it has a bow tie or dart on it, 0 if it does not

IMP = .375(e)(r) + .125(t)(c) + .25(g) + .125(i)(cf) + .125(l) + 99999(bd)
wtf is that?

[BigAls87Z28]

It's March 2009, so a 2008 model is not exactly an outdated piece.

MY and CY are different.
MY 2008 shows up mid 2007.
That would make it nearly a 2 year old car.

Viper is an overhyped, overhorsepowerd, overscalloped and scooped, overrated sports car.
You have to go full on balls out ACR race car with full race suspension aka you cant drive it on a single road in NJ, to beat a Corvette of similar power.

Viper sucks my ass. Great, it ran 10's. Congrats. Color me not impressed from EIGHT POINT THREE LITER V10 when Corvette does it with 1.3 liters and 2 cyls less.
Sure, are they all faster then all my cars combined, sure. But in the relm that the Viper plays it, its a big sledgehammer in a class of sexy carbon fiber and leather coverd scalpels.

[Tsar]

MY and CY are different.
MY 2008 shows up mid 2007.
That would make it nearly a 2 year old car.

Viper is an overhyped, overhorsepowerd, overscalloped and scooped, overrated sports car.
You have to go full on balls out ACR race car with full race suspension aka you cant drive it on a single road in NJ, to beat a Corvette of similar power.

Viper sucks my ass. Great, it ran 10's. Congrats. Color me not impressed from EIGHT POINT THREE LITER V10 when Corvette does it with 1.3 liters and 2 cyls less.
Sure, are they all faster then all my cars combined, sure. But in the relm that the Viper plays it, its a big sledgehammer in a class of sexy carbon fiber and leather coverd scalpels.
ahh, this is like explaining calculus to a monkey :lol:

[BigAls87Z28]

There is nothing here involving calc at all!!
Its straight up math. Its so easy, a Commie Russian can do it.

Viper is impressive in that its a big massive muscular performance sports car, but sit int he car for more then 30 mins, you will be dripping in sweat from the heat. Lets not get into the fact that the passanger space is ZILCH!! PLEASE sit in one...please. Check out that passanger side bucket-sized hole where the person puts thier feet. I had to keep my feet together, almost crossed, to fit into the car.

[Tsar]

There is nothing here involving calc at all!!
Its straight up math. Its so easy, a Commie Russian can do it.

Viper is impressive in that its a big massive muscular performance sports car, but sit int he car for more then 30 mins, you will be dripping in sweat from the heat. Lets not get into the fact that the passanger space is ZILCH!! PLEASE sit in one...please. Check out that passanger side bucket-sized hole where the person puts thier feet. I had to keep my feet together, almost crossed, to fit into the car.
Bad monkey,

1. None of the people on this board will buy one, neither will they buy a ZR1. But sure I'll sit in one next time.
2. I do not about you but I have never bought a car for the passenger seat. I buy it for me.
3. If I was to buy either a Vette or a Viper, I would go with the Viper hands down. That's a personal preference.
4. Saying a car that runs 10's stock is not impressive is asinine, as I said before. How many cars run tens STOCK? Veyron, Viper, and? and yes swapping tires does not make the car stock.
5. I can use the ricer argument too. i.e. We did it with less displacement and weight blah blah blah. I have seen Honda run in single digits they must be better than anything else.

wooohooo

[BigAls87Z28]

Getting a honda to run 9's is very good, and I have nothing but respect.
But when a Viper JUST got into the 10's, not that impressed when it makes 600hp.

Yes, 10's are fast, no doubt. Its as fast as a turbocharged 3.1 liter V6 Third gen.

But Im not totaly impressed with it.

[NJSPEEDER]

So GM and Dodge both have cars, at similar price points, in similar performance categories, directed at similar markets, and one is impressive and one isn't?

There are two cars on the planet for under 100K that run 10's, the Z06 and the Viper. How is one impressive and one not? You want to talk all about the weight being a huge difference in performance when it is the Camaro vs Challenger conversation, where is all that chatter now that the weight gap is even bigger and it still put up the number?

And save the Corvette at the Ring speech, those track numbers are with professional drivers and the details always seem to come back questionable. So they don't really apply.

[BigAls87Z28]

Oh, I forgot my grandmother drove the Viper ACR.
Again, Im not impressed that the Viper does what a Z06 does with 100 less hp.

And no one picked up on my little joke....damn it, I slipped it in there so well...

[NJSPEEDER]

Once again, you are willing to overlook the weight thing that you made such a big deal out of in the past. I guess it isn't a convenient argument this time so you have to fall back to the "well it has more HP".

[BigAls87Z28]

What weight thing? That the Viper is heavier?

[GP99GT]

who gives a god damn flying ****. you people fight like little girls about what $100,000 car is better like it really matters, none of you own one. 10's is fast for ANY car from the factory, regardless of horsepower, weight, whatever. bunch of little bitches

[Mike]

blah blah, 08 or 09.......it had 100 miles on it, its a new car

[12secondv6]

:moon:

Al, you are a great guy but come on...... it IS possible for a non GM car to be impressive.... and dare I say it.... in some peoples opinions, BETTER.

[98tadriver]

lol i just read this whole thread. i picked up on your joke Al. :lol:

[12secondv6]

Same driver
Same track

And the viper was quicker......OMG..... a GM was beat?!?!?!

http://i26.photobucket.com/albums/c112/cbonds14/10secc6z06.jpg

[sweetbmxrider]

lol i just read this whole thread. i picked up on your joke Al. :lol:

hahaha me too

does the ford gt do 10's?

[Tru2Chevy]

does the ford gt do 10's?

11.2 @ 131ish is what I found via quick google search.

- Justin

[NJSPEEDER]

11.540 according to a few sites I found.

[Tru2Chevy]

Not 10's either way....

- Justin

[Mike]

http://s79.photobucket.com/albums/j142/cbrrmike/?action=view&current=englishtownMARCH27016.flv

makes both the vette and the viper impressive........../thread

[sweetbmxrider]

ah! i bet someone FINALLY got a ford gt into the 10's :wink:

edit: mike, gallardo?

[BigAls87Z28]

http://s79.photobucket.com/albums/j142/cbrrmike/?action=view&current=englishtownMARCH27016.flv

makes both the vette and the viper impressive........../thread

Thats the little Lambo. Still packing 500hp and in a surprisingly light weight (I can only find it coming in at 3200lbs) it should post better then 11.7.

[sweetbmxrider]

and turd gens should break 15's :D burnnnnnnnnnnn


hahaha i kid i kid

[BigAls87Z28]

:moon:

Al, you are a great guy but come on...... it IS possible for a non GM car to be impressive.... and dare I say it.... in some peoples opinions, BETTER.

Cars that are NOT GM, but are Impressive...

http://www.zcars.com.au/images/novitec-rosso-ferrari-599-gtb1.jpg

http://www.thetorquereport.com/ferrari_f430_scuderia_brand_spankin_new_image001.j pg

http://www.cargurus.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/10/aston_martin_vanquish.jpg

http://www.carforums.net/reviews/makes/pictures/astonmartin01.jpg

http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i166/f430spiderv8/8C/2007AlfaRomeo8cCompetizione-full.jpg

http://www.privatefleet.com.au/images/upload/Image/2006-Alfa-Romeo-159-Sleek-and-US-Ready-J-640.jpg

http://images.paultan.org/images/New_Fiat_500_Abarth_2_Large.jpg

http://www.egmcartech.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/porsche_911_gt3_rs_official.jpg

http://www.thesupercars.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/bmw-m3-2007.jpg


Just a few....

[BigAls87Z28]

I also like how I can be a bad guy when I think that a GM product is more impressive then a Viper, or if I think Camaro is a better car then Challenger or Mustang or Genny coupe, but no one else is yelled at for thinking otherwised.

I never said that your opinion is ****. I just said that its NOT impressive to me. I guess Big Al cant have an opinion?

Big Al's Opinion: The Viper is the most overhyped sports car in the history of sports cars. If you want one, thats fine. Its my opinion, if you dont like it, suck my ass.

[LTb1ow]

I also like how I can be a bad guy when I think that a GM product is more impressive then a Viper, or if I think Camaro is a better car then Challenger or Mustang or Genny coupe, but no one else is yelled at for thinking otherwised.

I never said that your opinion is ****. I just said that its NOT impressive to me. I guess Big Al cant have an opinion?

Big Al's Opinion: The Viper is the most overhyped sports car in the history of sports cars. If you want one, thats fine. Its my opinion, if you dont like it, suck my ass.

Assmints?

[NJSPEEDER]

Al, I think it has more to do with the way you come off like the American version of Clarkson. You come off as having a very clearly defined range of what is or isn't good based on certain brands and when something comes along that is similar in anyway it is instantly reduced to being inferior.

It comes off as you just acting like a huge GM fanboi and ignoring any possibility of market appeal or a place in any segment for any car that falls outside of your views of the automotive world.

We all have our opinions, I think yours draw a lot of static because they are so predictable.

[Mike]

Assmints?

postwhore?

[LTb1ow]

postwhore?

Hmmm sure?

Whatever floats your boat.

[Mike]

Hmmm sure?

Whatever floats your boat.

no, you just are

[LTb1ow]

Sweet, I feel better now.

[BigAls87Z28]

Al, I think it has more to do with the way you come off like the American version of Clarkson. You come off as having a very clearly defined range of what is or isn't good based on certain brands and when something comes along that is similar in anyway it is instantly reduced to being inferior.

It comes off as you just acting like a huge GM fanboi and ignoring any possibility of market appeal or a place in any segment for any car that falls outside of your views of the automotive world.

We all have our opinions, I think yours draw a lot of static because they are so predictable.


********, look at pics of vehicles posted above.

If there is a thread that talks about Challenger vs Camaro, I expect as anyone else would on an Fbody site, a huge outpouring for Camaro.
If there is a thread about Viper vs Vette, expect me to pick the Vette.
I dont ignore the appeal of other cars. I understand there is an appeal for different cars, and thats fine. I have no problem with other peoples opinion, its when I display my opinion on something, people tell ME im wrong.

I have a vaste aray of feelings for different cars. Sorry if nothing Chrysler makes appeals to me.

[12secondv6]

Big Al's Opinion: The Viper is the most overhyped sports car in the history of sports cars. If you want one, thats fine. Its my opinion, if you dont like it, suck my ass.

No thank you - not interested in sucking your ass :rofl::rofl:

Al, you crack me up

[sweetbmxrider]

i always thought the vette and viper were a great matchup

[69BirdX]

Vipers arent geared for the track. They are made for road course and top speed.

[JL8Jeff]

Would the Viper coupe be quicker than the vert due to less body flex?

[BigAls87Z28]

Vipers arent geared for the track. They are made for road course and top speed.

I forgot that the Z06 was tuned to be a drag racer.
And ******** on road course. Viper is a glorified track car that cant get traction.

[HeadlessNorseman]

I forgot that the Z06 was tuned to be a drag racer.
And ******** on road course. Viper is a glorified track car that cant get traction.

I bet if you compare the engineering and R&D money in both cars, that is where your comparison lies. The vette may have 100 less hp but i bet it has 1 million more dollars in design behind it. Im not saying its a plus or a negative, and im not sure at all on specfic numbers, But im sure GM has a lot of resources to throw at the vette than chrysler is willing to at their respective cars. But on another note, some people(me) like the sledgehammer in an army of scalpels approach. Reminds me of the Shelby Cobra. I would still enver choose a viper over a z06 or even a base c6 and some bolt ons, but its still an awesome car

[BigAls87Z28]

It is an awesome car, no doubt. I am not doubting its awesomeness, but people put the car up into this epic level of performance, when its probably one of the hardest performance cars to drive correctly. Whats the point....
GM has done a lot more work, but pulled off a better package for a lower price.

[69BirdX]

The viper actuly can get really good traction. the rear ends are special designed. but the have low gearing in the rear. i belive its like a 295. plus IRS cars never do good compared to a Solid rear car. Both the vett and viper would be faster if you replace the Irs for a rearend.