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fire95bird
04-01-2009, 11:45 AM
Ok so Nick and Mike have been going at it for awhile and i think its time to get the views from everyone else

Anti_Rice_Guy
04-01-2009, 11:47 AM
Vert FTMFW

KirkEvil
04-01-2009, 11:47 AM
T-Tops!

BarneyMobile
04-01-2009, 11:48 AM
T-Tops, Wouldn't have it any other way!

FlyingDutchman
04-01-2009, 11:48 AM
hard top FTW

i swear im not biased...

fire95bird
04-01-2009, 11:50 AM
lol Nick told me not to put hardtop but i just wanted to be fair to you HT guys :)

madness410
04-01-2009, 11:50 AM
t-top doesnt take away from the body style...but theres nothing like driving in a vert

Frosty
04-01-2009, 11:51 AM
Ttop

Scrat's_Camaro
04-01-2009, 11:51 AM
im gona have to go with t-tops

fire95bird
04-01-2009, 11:52 AM
Nick is failing

Anti_Rice_Guy
04-01-2009, 11:56 AM
You just don't realize the awesomeness just yet. I count as wayyy more than one person.

fire95bird
04-01-2009, 11:56 AM
lmfao

Tsar
04-01-2009, 12:26 PM
If I had to chose one I would get the ttop, but I prefer a normal roof - it will never leak. Verts are generally uglier than their hardtop counterpart too.

WildBillyT
04-01-2009, 12:27 PM
T-Tops. Huge vert blind spot FTMFL.

LuvMyF8LWS6
04-01-2009, 12:29 PM
I have all 3, and I highly recommend the vert. With a touch of a button, the tops goes bye-bye! T-Tops involve work and hard top = ahhh no wind thru your hair!

sweetbmxrider
04-01-2009, 12:56 PM
ttop. if verts weren't so god damn ugly with the top up i'd go that route. unless its a hard top vert. they rock!

Anti_Rice_Guy
04-01-2009, 01:00 PM
ttop. if verts weren't so god damn ugly with the top up i'd go that route. unless its a hard top vert. they rock!

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v315/161/67/1330380016/n1330380016_30212950_6726.jpg
Still:?:

sweetbmxrider
04-01-2009, 01:04 PM
its not terrible, i'm just not a fan. topless, YES!

Tsar
04-01-2009, 01:12 PM
ttop. if verts weren't so god damn ugly with the top up i'd go that route. unless its a hard top vert. they rock!
Funny, we agree on the epic ugliness of the turd gens and the ugliness of verts, but disagree about everything else. :lol:

sweetbmxrider
04-01-2009, 01:15 PM
i smell a sitcom!!!!! :rofl:

fire95bird
04-01-2009, 01:23 PM
Say it Nick :)

procamaroz28
04-01-2009, 01:37 PM
o absolutely hardtop..

BurninrubberGT
04-01-2009, 01:39 PM
Vert FTMFW

FAIL

hahahahhahahahaha

told you ttops were the best nick

ty for the poll for proof lol

LuvMyF8LWS6
04-01-2009, 01:46 PM
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v367/124/115/198600312/n198600312_30836781_4164.jpg

But verts are so purty! (minus my missing paint in the front!)

ZeroCool8891
04-01-2009, 01:53 PM
VERT, i live my iroc vert.

fire95bird
04-01-2009, 02:00 PM
Its cause i love you Mike lol

jola
04-01-2009, 02:03 PM
T-tops all the way. Maintain the body lines and still have an open air experience whenever you have an extra 30 seconds to take the tops off.

Teds89IROC
04-01-2009, 02:25 PM
t-tops all the way

Teds89IROC
04-01-2009, 02:26 PM
http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v315/161/67/1330380016/n1330380016_30212950_6726.jpg
Still:?:


FAIL! :lol:

wretched73
04-01-2009, 02:30 PM
I would feel like less of a man if i was driving a vert hahah but obviously my opinion isnt shared by some people on here

Dilley
04-01-2009, 02:39 PM
imo a vert is 100% ugly there is not a think about the look of those cars that is apealing at all

Anti_Rice_Guy
04-01-2009, 03:04 PM
FAIL! :lol:

That's your nickname and our chat last night proved that :lol:

And Mike, I will never cave in! You are just not a member of the elite group.

maroman88
04-01-2009, 03:34 PM
never had a vert so i couldnt say fist hand... TTop def owns hardtop tho

Teds89IROC
04-01-2009, 03:37 PM
That's your nickname and our chat last night proved that :lol:



oh please, just because you and your army of yourself commit to going to the movies friday and the rest of north east jersey have plans either day does not mean I lose.

GOOD DAY SIR! :lol:

Anti_Rice_Guy
04-01-2009, 03:42 PM
oh please, just because you and your army of yourself commit to going to the movies friday and the rest of north east jersey have plans either day does not mean I lose.

GOOD DAY SIR! :lol:

Woah now, there was more than just me chief. It means you lose.

GOOD DAY MA'AM! :lol:

Teds89IROC
04-01-2009, 03:45 PM
back to topic, clearly majority of the people prefer t-top over vert, so as said before...you lose :lol:

mtg6486
04-01-2009, 06:13 PM
t tops

madness410
04-01-2009, 06:34 PM
back to topic, clearly majority of the people prefer t-top over vert, so as said before...you lose :lol:

yeah! u lose! loser!

lolz jk

fire95bird
04-01-2009, 07:19 PM
HaHa thanks everyone for helping me prove Nick was horribly wrong and now Mike can get back at him. Hard top even beat you tsk tsk tsk

NJSPEEDER
04-01-2009, 07:37 PM
Hardtop for racing/spirited driving, Vert for cruising

BonzoHansen
04-01-2009, 07:41 PM
Used for racing - HT
Nice DD - T-Top
Sunday Car - Vert

BurninrubberGT
04-01-2009, 07:55 PM
best thread ever

Anti_Rice_Guy
04-01-2009, 07:58 PM
I hate you all, except 88 iroc vert, 91droptop, luvmyf8lws6 and zeek. kthnxbi

BurninrubberGT
04-01-2009, 08:09 PM
I hate you all, except 88 iroc vert, 91droptop, luvmyf8lws6 and zeek. kthnxbi

someone is a little pissy that he lost :rofl:

Anti_Rice_Guy
04-01-2009, 08:29 PM
My mommy says I'm still a winner. :nod:

NJ Torque
04-01-2009, 08:32 PM
i have both for this reason.

maroman88
04-01-2009, 11:44 PM
lol all the votes for vert are by vert owners... we must all be missing out on sumthin! i do have a feeling that if i had a vert i just couldnt go back to anything else so they may be onto sumthin :roll:

LTb1ow
04-01-2009, 11:46 PM
Hardtop!

fire95bird
04-01-2009, 11:52 PM
Correct me if im wrong but don't the hard tops and ttops have the same roof design? Don't they have the same strength? IDR were i heard that from maybe it was ls1tech

LTb1ow
04-01-2009, 11:53 PM
Yup, the skin peels off and voila, T tops.

NJ Torque
04-01-2009, 11:58 PM
on these cars, yes.... g bodies.. whole 'nother car

NastyEllEssWon
04-02-2009, 03:26 AM
correction. on 4th gens the hardtop and ttop got the same structure. all other generations they were cut into an existing hardtop.



ive owned one of all. i have to say i enjoy ttops immensely but theres nothing like pushing a button and letting the sun soak in. verts are only good for cruising anything else and youd need a more rigid structure

LuvMyF8LWS6
04-02-2009, 08:54 AM
I hate you all, except 88 iroc vert, 91droptop, luvmyf8lws6 and zeek. kthnxbi

Awww Nick!

lol all the votes for vert are by vert owners... we must all be missing out on sumthin! i do have a feeling that if i had a vert i just couldnt go back to anything else so they may be onto sumthin :roll:

Uuuh yeah! I didn't know the joys of a vert until I got my hands on one! Totally effortless! I don't think I've taken my T-Tops off my Formula in over a year cuz I'm too lazy. lol

Ian
04-02-2009, 11:06 AM
I think T tops are cool, but I prefer the simplicity of hard tops. I wouldn't dismiss a car because of T tops, but I definitely wouldn't own a convertible.

Featherburner
04-02-2009, 05:23 PM
Correct me if im wrong but don't the hard tops and ttops have the same roof design? Don't they have the same strength? IDR were i heard that from maybe it was ls1tech

Yup, the skin peels off and voila, T tops.

correction. on 4th gens the hardtop and ttop got the same structure. all other generations they were cut into an existing hardtop.

You guys are saying that a 4th gen t-top car is as structurally sound as a hardtop car?

LTb1ow
04-02-2009, 05:24 PM
Kinda sorta, yea.
Have you seen the T top conversion write ups?

LTb1ow
04-02-2009, 05:27 PM
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/2059/101/5145050161_medium.jpg

You only cut the side bars out, so yea you are weakening the car, but I always figured the hard top had more under it.

miketa95
04-02-2009, 05:29 PM
i've never experienced t tops or a convertible (fbody).

Featherburner
04-02-2009, 05:35 PM
http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/1/2059/101/5145050161_medium.jpg

You only cut the side bars out, so yea you are weakening the car, but I always figured the hard top had more under it.OK, you corrected yourself. Thanks.

LTb1ow
04-02-2009, 05:36 PM
Yup, although its still not much to really be removing.

Featherburner
04-02-2009, 05:43 PM
Yup, although its still not much to really be removing.You're cutting a section of steel that connects points a and b and replacing it with something that "latches" in. Now, I'm not an engineer but, I don't think it takes one to figure out which one is stronger.

FIcamaroRE92
04-02-2009, 06:00 PM
t-tops

sweetbmxrider
04-02-2009, 06:01 PM
You're cutting a section of steel that connects points a and b and replacing it with something that "latches" in. Now, I'm not an engineer but, I don't think it takes one to figure out which one is stronger.

yeah but how much of a difference does it really make?

Ian
04-02-2009, 06:11 PM
yeah but how much of a difference does it really make?

the roof of a car, especially a unibody car, is a significant structural piece. can you get away with cutting it? Sure. would it be stronger if it was left intact? Yes.

ETA: think about it like this. all the weight between the front and rear wheels is pushing down on the floor, which in turn is trying to push the top of the front windshield towards the top of the rear hatch.

LTb1ow
04-02-2009, 06:20 PM
Yea, install SFCs and you will see how weak the cars are.

sweetbmxrider
04-02-2009, 06:41 PM
ok i understand. i do have subframe connectors i need to weld in, eventually

JL8Jeff
04-02-2009, 07:43 PM
I've been through enough t-top and convertibles and I have no need for either any more. I hate the leaks and squeaks with t-tops and I don't care to have the sun beating on me while driving the car so I prefer a hard top. I don't even take the t-tops shades out of my SS. I get enough sun out on the golf course and in my boat.

LTb1ow
04-02-2009, 09:15 PM
Woohoo! I figured I was the only one. LOL hardtop FTW.

7998
04-03-2009, 07:57 AM
Vert hands down, I'd almost rather have an LT1 vert than my t-top LS1, almost.

jims69camaro
04-05-2009, 09:13 PM
My mommy says I'm still a weiner. :nod:

s'ok. you've got a face even a mother couldn't love. :mrgreen: we can't all be gorgeous george.

ar0ck
04-05-2009, 09:19 PM
T-Tops hand down.

I only like T/A drop tops, especially Brian's (BlackBird) & Franks (Fozzi).

3rd & 4th gen cars need a B-Pillar, it just defines the shape of the car to me.

Anti_Rice_Guy
04-05-2009, 09:29 PM
Vert hands down

:nod::nod::nod::nod::nod::nod:

s'ok. you've got a face even a mother couldn't love. :mrgreen: we can't all be gorgeous george.

No, and even fewer can be a nice looking nick.

bad64chevelle
04-05-2009, 09:33 PM
T-Tops, AND I should be biased in other directions.

Savage_Messiah
04-06-2009, 01:09 AM
t-tops

ib4200
04-18-2009, 09:13 PM
verts are for the west coast and florida, hard tops are for up north like in canada, main, NH, and other cold places i wouldnt wanna be and t-tops are for all the other place

enRo
04-18-2009, 09:28 PM
5 out of 7 cars I've owned had T-tops for a reason :nod: (The other 2 had sunroofs :lol: )

JerzLT1
04-18-2009, 09:39 PM
i cant believe no one has said it yet... chicks dig convertibles!

racerz
04-19-2009, 05:19 PM
475LBS. lighter than convertable. that's almost half a second on the strip. nuff said

Stupercharged
11-02-2010, 07:49 PM
T TOPS FTMFW I owned a hard top and it sucked in the summer :(

WiMiMc
11-02-2010, 07:54 PM
i cant believe no one has said it yet... chicks dig t-tops!

fixed :-D

Frosty
11-02-2010, 08:04 PM
Was there really a need to bump a thread that's over a year and a half old?

omarcamaro
11-02-2010, 08:24 PM
t-tops i had to cut my roof so i could have them

Anti_Rice_Guy
11-02-2010, 08:32 PM
Was there really a need to bump a thread that's over a year and a half old?

It was linked to in a thread within the past week or so, so it's not completely their fault. I remember seeing it somewhere

1_Hot_SOM_WS6
11-02-2010, 10:14 PM
T-tops are highly sexy!!

T69SS
11-02-2010, 10:21 PM
T-tops

redsoxsstink
11-02-2010, 11:24 PM
verts=:gay::barf:

RU_Weskot
11-03-2010, 01:52 AM
i cant believe no one has said it yet... chicks dig convertibles!

meanwhile every chick screams when i drive up with my t tops off... :P

fixed :-D

+1!!

verts=:gay::barf:

i concur, lol and i find it funny how I AM the one driving with t tops... Fania. xD jk jk


besides, i claim that the t tops hold onto the older camaros / TA heritage. Converting to a vert is like converting to the modern age.

thunder
11-03-2010, 02:01 AM
meanwhile every chick screams when i drive up with my t tops off... :P

maybe its cause u suck at driving

Featherburner
11-03-2010, 06:50 AM
besides, i claim that the t tops hold onto the older camaros / TA heritage. Converting to a vert is like converting to the modern age.
What the hell are you talking about?

Frosty
11-03-2010, 06:57 AM
It was linked to in a thread within the past week or so, so it's not completely their fault. I remember seeing it somewhere

Ahhhh OK, makes sense then :D

What the hell are you talking about?

:rofl:

BigRocsFirebird
11-03-2010, 07:29 AM
It was linked to in a thread within the past week or so, so it's not completely their fault. I remember seeing it somewhere

I'd have to say t-tops ftw! i can't bust balls on a vert cause i've never been in one. don't take it the wrong way but i look at verts more as a girls car than anything. i'm sure when the tops down and its all open is pretty sweet but i wouldn't know. I'd have the say if i was to own a vert it would be a ferrari since some ferrari models only come as verts.

Anti_Rice_Guy
11-03-2010, 08:24 AM
i can't bust balls on a vert cause i've never been in one. i'm sure when the tops down and its all open is pretty sweet but i wouldn't know. .

Exactly why most of you shouldn't be able to vote in this contest. :wink:
We've had all three combos and I've spent a good deal of time in all of them.

Frosty
11-03-2010, 08:31 AM
Awwww, the 14 second vert guy is getting all upset. :D:D:D:D:D

BurninrubberGT
11-03-2010, 08:51 AM
Was there really a need to bump a thread that's over a year and a half old?

it gets nick mad so yes we did :rofl:

BonzoHansen
11-03-2010, 08:52 AM
What the hell are you talking about?

lol

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v309/JSBOWSE/67%20Exterior/SSMarch2009478.jpg

redsoxsstink
11-03-2010, 09:11 AM
besides, i claim that the t tops hold onto the older camaros / TA heritage. Converting to a vert is like converting to the modern age.
yea ya dropped the ball on that one, verts were around befor t-tops. yea i have to agree with rock on this one, verts seem girly. my girlfriend has a vert sebring (almost a camaro:rofl:) and it is pretty cool i have to admit. the only thing holding me back buying a vert is the looks and the wind noise while on the highway

WiMiMc
11-03-2010, 09:50 AM
the only thing holding me back buying a vert is the looks and the wind noise while on the highway

:nod: my friend had a convertible 88 cabriolet with the sole purpose of beating it to death. the only thing the convertible was good for was jumping in and out of the car

Anti_Rice_Guy
11-03-2010, 10:42 AM
the only thing holding me back buying a vert is the looks and the wind noise while on the highway

Looks are completely up to you, so I'll leave you alone on that one.

If you're worried about wind noise, I have to say there is very little wind noise due to the 19 degree windshield. Several members have ridden in my car at highway speeds and can attest to this (1994lt1, redbird99, etc). I know for one there's more wind noise in my truck at 30 than the Camaro at 70. My ex was surprised too, we could have a normal conversation just like if we were in a regular car at 70 mph.

Brendan713
11-03-2010, 12:44 PM
T-Tops are the best of both worlds in all senses. Verts are sweet only when the top is down, if you can get me a hardtop vert F-Body im won, TTops also make those people who wish to have a solid roof happy as well.

For me TTops are the best i can get in and out of the car much easier with the TTops off because its a pain for me to climb in and out of these cars. i am 6'4 enough said.

BigRocsFirebird
11-03-2010, 05:41 PM
Exactly why most of you shouldn't be able to vote in this contest. :wink:
We've had all three combos and I've spent a good deal of time in all of them.

i didn't vote! what now, wanna fight about it.