NJ State inspection question

[97ws6]

My car has been put back to stock, thanks for the advice guys!

[NJ Torque]

PCM doesnt have a VIN, IIRC.

[maroman88]

wats the computer have to do with anything? u need the sticker on the car... am i missing sumthin?

[ar0ck]

Let alone swapping modded or unmodded PCM's would throw every possible light.

[WildBillyT]

My car has considerable mods, and I need to take it to inspection. The PCM in my car came from EBAY, I had it programmed by Bryan. I have an idea, my brother has the same car, with no mods, I have the original PCM, If i put it in his car, and take it to my buddies garage, can I get him to inspect my brothers car, with my PCM? I believe the PCM has the serial number stored in it! The only difference is mines a 6 speed, his is an A-4.

What do you think you will fail for?

[LTb1ow]

My car has considerable mods, and I need to take it to inspection. The PCM in my car came from EBAY, I had it programmed by Bryan. I have an idea, my brother has the same car, with no mods, I have the original PCM, If i put it in his car, and take it to my buddies garage, can I get him to inspect my brothers car, with my PCM? I believe the PCM has the serial number stored in it! The only difference is mines a 6 speed, his is an A-4.

WTH is that going to solve other than your brother's car passing inspection?

[sweetbmxrider]

the state computer reads the PCM to ensure all monitors are set and no codes are present. it also reads the VIN.

[97ws6]

I think I am confusing some of you, My car is heavily modded, it wont pass inspection. My brother has the same vehicle, ( a 97 Firebird Formula) with no mods. If i put my stock PCM in his car, and my friend inspects it, I believe that it will show up as my car. Because the PCM has my serial number. Then he hands me the sticker, and I put it on my car. My brothers car already has a good sticker. I want one for my car.

[LTb1ow]

Why even bother with all that if he can just give you the sticker?

[NastyEllEssWon]

since your car is a 97 you wont have to go through emissions. if you have no check engine light on and its tuned you can bring it through private inspection. they only scan your cpu to make sure theres no monitors on or to make sure it hasnt been reset recently (like 100 miles).

[97ws6]

For one they will see the PCM has a different VIN,

2 They will know I have longtube headers, and no cats because they check

3 All inspection stickers are accounted for, no one can just give you one, they risk losing there license

I guess I was just checking to see if any of you guys had tried this? I dont want to get my buddy in any trouble, It should work like a charm. Your PCM info, is sent back to Trenton via modem during your inspection. What that means gentleman, is if you have a fake sticker, and a cop pulls you over, he knows that your car has not been inspected, before he walks up and checks your window sticker. And that can mean a heavy fine.

[Tru2Chevy]

Well, your buddy also can't legally give you the sticker to put on your car after he inspects your brother's car.

- Justin

[97ws6]

Thats true! But he wont get caught this way. He will give me the sticker, I am the one worried he will get caught. I would rather get a no inspection sticker, I value my friends. I would bet most guys on this site, have a modification that this State deams illegal, Window tint, no air, no egr, gutted cat, longtube headers, pcm tune, New Jersey says you cant do any of these things. But we all have stickers dont we. I would have figured someone would have tried this technique already. I will keep you guys posted!

[sweetbmxrider]

dude you make no sense. if he won't pass your car, why the **** would he give you a sticker after passing your brothers car with your old computer? that is the dumbest thing i have ever heard. if your car has his sticker on it, no matter what scam you try to pull, it still traces back to him. get your vin programed to your pcm via dealership, get all the crap you don't have tuned out, and go get inspected. you would be better off dropping in a stock lt1 or reverting back to stock on your current setup than this whole stupid computer/car thing. also, IIRC, an a4 computer won't work in an m6 car. but good luck with all this nonsense.

[NJSPEEDER]

If you wanna play the who will or won't get caught game you are already going about this all wrong. If the car won't pass, it won't pass. If you try to play the system to get by you are gambling with your car, a whole bunch of money, and your buddy's inspection license and money.

If you are considering doing something like this, it isn't a good idea to discuss on an open forum where a lot of law enforcement officers are members.

[LTb1ow]

I think you should go to the DMV and see if you will pass. Never know.

[wretched73]

Can you pass emissions with long tubes?

[LTb1ow]

LOL sniff test or visual?

Technically NO. But for the OBDII cars, if the guy looking is an idiot, more than likely you will pass. For a sniff test, its gonna require two cats and a good tune.

[wretched73]

Yea i didnt think so, but your right, he should just go to state and get it over with. Or have his buddy over look all of the mods that might make him fail IMO

[JL8Jeff]

You should have someone program your VIN into the modified computer, add some cats to the y-pipe and you should be able to pass. Unless the car is so modified it can't possibly pass a visual, then it would be risky for anyone to inspect and pass it as they could be liable when you get pulled over.

[LTb1ow]

Jeff, odds are he has the same setup I have, unless hell freezes over he won't pass a sniff test.

[sweetbmxrider]

these threads should just get locked. its the same as street racing, completely ILLEGAL!

edit: Matt, 97. plug in test not tailpipe

[LTb1ow]

I know, I was just implying why even bother? No way its gonna "clean" it up any.

[sweetbmxrider]

emissions stuff for the visual portion....

[LTb1ow]

Yea, I know, but why not just cheat and tack on heat shields?

But really, who runs LTs anyways... geez.

[97ws6]

Now I am sorry I ever started this thread. It seems everybody has an opinion, but this is to advanced for a few to understand, and it should not have been discussed in an open forum. Thanks for your input guys!

[sweetbmxrider]

its not too advanced. its stupid. its illegal. you should think it through a little better. sorry to sound like a dick but you really are re-engineering the wheel here. best of luck though.

[NastyEllEssWon]

take your car to a private inspection. have them run the obdII test on your car. its not illegal to have an aftermarket pcm

[sweetbmxrider]

i don't think he has the vin programmed into the ebay pcm somehow and his car won't run off his stock pcm :shrug: i dono its too advanced for me

[NastyEllEssWon]

ebay parts ftl get your stock pcm and hit up a dyno.

[WildBillyT]

Now I am sorry I ever started this thread. It seems everybody has an opinion, but this is to advanced for a few to understand, and it should not have been discussed in an open forum. Thanks for your input guys!

Well, inspection sticker fraud is illegal so it really shouldn't be made public. We get this a LOT on here. Everybody is used to the "I need an inspection sticker and I won't pass legally..." threads so some posts will practically be canned responses. But since you asked I'll try my best to answer what I can.

1.) They will ask to see your registration. If it doesn't match the car then you fail. You will also have to swap license plates. If you don't to that, then you will fail.

2.) Assuming your brother's car is a clone of yours then of course you can put your PCM in it. I don't know if that's going to make any difference though. I installed a mail order PCM in my '97 GTP and sent my original back as a core. I did not tell the mail order company my VIN ahead of time.
I have never failed inspection and the VIN on my inspection printout sheet matches the one that's on the car- which would lead me to believe that they don't always pull the VIN from the PCM. If they did, then mine wouldn't match.

3.) He should never "hand you a sticker" to install yourself. He should be the one that installs it. So he would scrape your brother's good sticker off and put the new one on, leaving you with nothing. If he was going to just hand you a sticker and tell you to be on your merry way you might as well just buy a damn sticker from him outright.

[emolineaux]

well this insnt asking for illegal advice but if i do a 243 head and gmpp asa cam running long tubes and catted y should i be able to pass state inspection as long as i dont have a cel on?

[WildBillyT]

well this insnt asking for illegal advice but if i do a 243 head and gmpp asa cam running long tubes and catted y should i be able to pass state inspection as long as i dont have a cel on?

If you get lucky, yes. Long tubes are not legal.

[emolineaux]

ok i still have another year on inspection and another 2 years in jersey till i get to move to florida so if i have to ill just wait a year after inspection lol

[Mike]

if you have the computer in the car........and the car runs...the computer will not cause you to fail inspection. it wont come up with the wrong vin

[sweetbmxrider]

well if you switch out the computers, the monitors will go to "not ready" status. i believe the OP has an m6 and the other car is an a4. the m6 PCM won't tell the 4L60E to shift so the car won't be drivable. that is a portion of the test and it won't allow the monitors to be set. this will cause the OP to fail.

[Mike]

ehh dosent matter anyway vin numbers arent on the sticker anymore

[sweetbmxrider]

it is on the inspection report, the registration, and transmitted electronically to the state :wink: