Official NJ State Inspection Thread

[WildBillyT]

Got a question? Here's where to ask.

Before you read further, here are some things to note. Keep in mind that these are FACTS and aren't just WBT running his mouth:


1a.) It is a violation of FEDERAL law to remove, hollow, or tamper with your cats. That means that it is still illegal to mess with them even if you are in states that don't check in all areas. Technically moving your cats for a long tube header install is tampering and therefore illegal. This is because cats operate best at a particular temperature and if you move them closer to or further from the engine then that changes their effectiveness. Cat location is not always checked for in NJ.

1b.) Today's catalytic converters are a lot more efficient than the old pellet-style ones of yesteryear. Don't expect a ton of power if you remove them, but expect a pain in the ass when you go to inspection.

2.) It is ILLEGAL to run a fraudulent inspection sticker or one you bought from a guy who knows a guy. Do not ask on this site where you can do that. Anybody who can answer you will probably not do so on a public forum. And yes, members of law enforcement organizations read the site regularly.

3.) State inspection facilities have been known to fail people with SLP Loudmouth and other very loud exhaust systems. If you have a loud exhaust, be prepared to have them bounce you.

4.) Tinted front windows are not legal without a medical reason to back it up. If you go to inspection, you will fail. If you leave your windows down, they will simply roll them up and fail you. If you pull the window fuse and say it's broken, guess what. They will fail you.

5.) If you have a collector's registration you will be issued a triangular inspection sticker and you will not have a formal inspection. They will only check to make sure that you have a working odometer. Please see the registration sticky if you think that this may be an avenue you wish to pursue.

Fake-quoted for readability.


If you have some more facts and have evidence to back it up, feel free to post it up and I will add it to this post. Your original post may be pruned but I will add your username to the fact so that people know who to talk to for clarification.

All off-topic posts will be deleted

If you have questions about what will pass, go for it. If you have some tips about how to get a car through state inspection without breaking any laws, do that here as well.

[//<86TA>\\]

here is a link to the EPA's regulations on engine switching (engine swaps)

I found it interesting

http://www.epa.gov/compliance/resources/policies/civil/caa/mobile/engswitch.pdf

From what im seeing, you can modify your car, remove equipment, move things, ect, as long as the car still passes the tail-pipe test. So long tubes and relocated cats are technically ok.

As for engines, you can swap a newer engine into a older chassis, but not an older engine into a newer chassis. Its legal if you retain all the systems and emissions controls as the original setup.


And as a side note to bills post, if you have collectors status, dont miss your instpection date! You will lose you status and have to re-apply, which is a much harder thing to do now than it used to be.

[sweetbmxrider]

i would recommend giving your car a good once over before going for inspection. replace any burnt out bulbs, remove everything from the windshield area including oil change stickers, and don't go if you are 1996+ and have a check engine light lit! it will save you time and aggravation. make sure you have your current driver's license, valid registration, and insurance card with you. also, for the manual guys especially, make sure your parking brake holds the car AND has sufficient reserve. you shouldn't have to pull the brake lever all the way to the stop for it to hold the car. autos should hold the car still in drive with the parking brake set.

[BonzoHansen]

I dealt directly with the state folks for 5 years and all they wanted to know is what happens from the second the customer presents a car for inspection until the end of the transaction. Never once was I told nor did I read anything about reporting stuff in non-inspection situations. I am not aware of any changes to that law since I left the business.

PS: expect WB to clean this thread soon, so this line of chatter may be condensed..

[89 Trans Am WS6]

1999 and older can have two monitors = not ready
2000 and newer can have one monitor = not ready

clearing the computer resets the monitors and each one has specific criteria to meet before it will read, "ready"

so no, that won't work. at all.

2001 and newer is one monitor not ready.
00 and older is two.

If you have a aftermarket cat and header and get no check engine light then your car will pass the OBD portion of the test. (assuming the monitors are ready) I cant tell you for sure tho if its going to pass the visual check it all really depends if the inspector looks and/or notices/cares.

[Mike]

you WILL pass nj inspection with an airbag light on

[89 Trans Am WS6]

Just a update for you guys.

The state has completely reworked the inspection program in NJ.This included mandatory recertification for all of its inspectors, including parsons employees. Some of the changes will be apparent right away, some of them nobody other than a inspector will even notice. It really depends on what you own, and how its registered. For the most part your fbodys wont be effected at all.

Commercial vehicles have a lot changing, one of the biggest being yearly inspection. Regardless of weight or fuel type if you have a vehicle registered as commercial (that includes limos and omnibuses) you will be required to get it inspected once a year. Buying a NEW commercial vehicle will no longer give you 4 years of inspection either. That new rack truck or mason dump (or anything new and commercial) needs to be inspected right away and then yearly after that. The thinking behind this is that commercial vehicles are used much differently, and harder then passenger cars and thus the state wants to inspect them more.

Omnibus 2 is a new registration category that probably has no interest for people here. Its for small buses that are not for hire. Think of it like a bus that is owned by a ski resort and is used to move people from the lodge to the slopes. You dont pay a fee directly for the bus, just to get into the ski resort. This does NOT include vehicles registered to churches or other religious organizations.

OBD Testing.

96 and up GASOLINE and now 97 and up LIGHT DUTY DIESEL receive OBD inspections. Previously light diesels (volkswagen, mercedes, jeep) received only a safety inspection and a pass. Now 97 and up LIGHT DUTY diesels are treated just like a 96 and up gasoline car. I will double check my new book to let you know the cut off weights, etc. Some have changed.

Medium duty diesels now get a visable smoke test. This is NOT the same as a opacity test used on heavy duty diesels.

PIFs and DECs are now the same thing. The programs and training were combined so any private inspection facility can now inspect heavy duty diesel trucks (over 16k? pounds) if they purchased the new opacity meter addition for the new inspection machines. This is funny because you DO NOT need a CDL to inspect the heavys, just a inspector license, however part of the testing for a heavy can include driving the rig. haha, smooth move jersey.

Some previous failures are now advisories, but nothing to major.

Dynos which have been dead since april are now dead for good. Anything pre obd and certain heavy weight gas vehicles will receive a tail pipe test. The exact type of test is determined by the weight of the vehicle.

Gas cap testing is no longer needed on 01 and newer vehicles, as it redundant anyway as these vehicles have enhanced evap systems.

All the facilities now had to purchase all new equipment. They are fully CAN compliant so there is no longer a exempt list at PIFs. Inspectors now login with a fingerprint, not a id card.

And the question I know all of you care about the most! The 2012 stickers are blue. They are the same design as the purple 2010, but I know how alot of us worry if the color is going to look goofy. My TA will have the blue.

Ill try to remember to grab my book and get you guys all the proper weights and stuff.

Hope its helpful.

Edit: WE have NO idea when this is going to take place. Our machine was just delivered and setup, but now its sitting idle until the state is ready. Still some people have not received their machines. The original go date was Jan 1st, but I have a feeling we wont use it till march.

Edit 2: http://njinspections.com is the new site the state is promoting now. Its supposed to have all the new updates.

[WildBillyT]

Thank you very, very much Joe. That information is great to have.

[sweetbmxrider]

they are saying mid january the new equipment will begin getting used. though software supposedly still isn't available? also, check with your local private shop to see what they opted for. they could have purchased equipment for just obd-II, obd-II and tailpipe, obd-II and diesel, or all three.

[89 Trans Am WS6]

Good point. We opted for both obd and the gas bench option, however if yourf a pre 96 guy or otherwise non obd and your used to going to a certain shop keep in mind they may not be able to help you anymore if they only bought the obd option.

And from what SGS is telling us the software is ready, we initalized our machine but they are just saying the state is not ready. Who really knows.

[89 Trans Am WS6]

Still dont know when the new equiptment will be used, but a message came over the wire the other day saying that the changes to commercial inspections will start january 1st. If you got a X plated vehicle and your due in <3 months you may wanna inspect it now so you can get 2 years instead of 1.

[NJ346]

quick question: I currently run no front plate on my car and can't seem to find it. Will I automatically fail for no front plate? Car is cammed so if I get an ******* can he fail me for the front plate? Everything else is "legal" on the car(high flow cats, no SES light, etc.)

[Tru2Chevy]

No, lack of a front plate is just an advisory during inspection.

- Justin

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

quick question: I currently run no front plate on my car and can't seem to find it. Will I automatically fail for no front plate? Car is cammed so if I get an ******* can he fail me for the front plate? Everything else is "legal" on the car(high flow cats, no SES light, etc.)

7 bucks to replace it...go get another one. You should always keep it in your car regardless...

[sweetbmxrider]

you only need one plate and it doesn't even need to be mounted to the car. hell, it could be crumbled into a ball and unreadable. just needs to be present.

[NJ346]

cool...thanks guys

[FASTEDDIE Z]

you only need one plate and it doesn't even need to be mounted to the car. hell, it could be crumbled into a ball and unreadable. just needs to be present.

Just a note , Ive been ticketed twice for no front plate :-x Once I even had it on the dash . The cop didnt care . "It was not visable to him "

[sweetbmxrider]

Just a note , Ive been ticketed twice for no front plate :-x Once I even had it on the dash . The cop didnt care . "It was not visable to him "

yes, i said in reference to inspection. you can get tickets for lights out too, still will pass inspection though. they changed alot of it because the state has to pay $20 per reinspection at state facilities. they were losing lots :mrgreen:

[BarneyMobile]

I've failed for having a tag lamp bulb out. I had to run to Pepgirls and get a new bulb then get back in line for reinstection.

[sweetbmxrider]

I've failed for having a tag lamp bulb out. I had to run to Pepgirls and get a new bulb then get back in line for reinstection.

yeah you used to, now plate lights are advisories.

[FASTEDDIE Z]

yes, i said in reference to inspection. you can get tickets for lights out too, still will pass inspection though. they changed alot of it because the state has to pay $20 per reinspection at state facilities. they were losing lots :mrgreen:

Sweet !!:mrgreen:

[BurntTreez28]

ive always been curious if having no front plate on my 78 is legal because its registered as a classic, would anybody here happen to know if it actually is legal or not? because i have had my balls busted a couple times but no actual tickets

[WildBillyT]

ive always been curious if having no front plate on my 78 is legal because its registered as a classic, would anybody here happen to know if it actually is legal or not? because i have had my balls busted a couple times but no actual tickets

Do you have collector's or antique registration? No such bird as "classic".

[BurntTreez28]

im pretty sure its registered as historic, i have QQ plates

[89 Trans Am WS6]

What is legal and what passes inspection are two different things. Another smooth NJ move. A cop can write you for not having a front plate no matter how your car was registered. Historic or not. If you were given two plates from MVC, your supposed to use both. Bikes and trailers, and im sure theres a few other things. (in tranist equip, etc) that can run one plate legally.

For inspection, you (from what we are told now by the state) dont need EITHER plate mounted, they just need to be there with the rest of the credentials. To me that sounds 10000 percent crazy, but its how it is. There are tons of things that you used to fail for, and now you are only given a "Advisory" and told to fix them. You still get a sticker. As said above it all had to do with a amount of $$ the state was paying parsons and the amount of times a failed car returned to the lanes.

So to answer your question it is Illegal to have only one plate. Will you pass inspection?
Yes. Can you leave the inspection station and get pulled over and ticketed for you? Yes. Will saying "But I just passed inspection, look!" help? Nope.

[maroman88]

is tints and advisory????

[EchoMirage]

an advisory? no. theyll fail you

[19iroc88]

and don't go if you are 1996+ and have a check engine light lit! it will save you time and aggravation.

whats the deal if you are 96 or lower, will the 88 pass with check engine light?

is there any other general rules for older cars

[fmybody]

they passed my 91 bmw with the check engine light going on and off.. matter of fact it said it needed an oil change and "brake lining" (on the dash) and it passed.

[sweetbmxrider]

whats the deal if you are 96 or lower, will the 88 pass with check engine light?

is there any other general rules for older cars

96+ is a plug in test generally speaking. 95 and older is a tailpipe test. check engine lights 99.9% of the time will fail you in the 96+, 95 and older doesn't matter.

[19iroc88]

so your saying i shouldnt have to worry about the SES in the iroc?

[Jersey Mike]

Quick question:
My ex's car is up for inspection shortly. She asked me if the interior LEDs (blue) will be a problem for her at inspection. My gut tells me no, but I just thought I'd ask here before doing anything unnecessary.

[sweetbmxrider]

so your saying i shouldnt have to worry about the SES in the iroc?

no, unless its raising your tailpipe emissions to the point you'd fail

Quick question:
My ex's car is up for inspection shortly. She asked me if the interior LEDs (blue) will be a problem for her at inspection. My gut tells me no, but I just thought I'd ask here before doing anything unnecessary.

could you expand on that? are they always on? where are they? it really depends on the inspector though

[Jersey Mike]

could you expand on that? are they always on? where are they? it really depends on the inspector though

Sure thing. They are LED replacement bulbs, in place of the factory map lights & dome light. They function just as stock, and only come on when a door is opened or if they are manually switched on to find something, otherwise, they are off while the doors are closed.

[BonzoHansen]

i see no reason you'd have any issue with that.

[sweetbmxrider]

should be no problem. i thought you meant like neons and flashing leds. basically a party in your car.

[B4C]

Would you fail inspection for having a gutted car. My car currently has no interior other than the driver seat, pass seat and seat belts.

[Mike]

Would you fail inspection for having a gutted car. My car currently has no interior other than the driver seat, pass seat and seat belts.

yes my friend failed for that

[B4C]

But why? the air bags and all saftey restraints are working properly and installed, its just gutted becuase of a water leak Im trying to track down

[sweetbmxrider]

really depends on the inspector. i'd like to hear the reason why it would though.

[BonzoHansen]

Sharp edges is the 1st thing that comes to mind. Especially if there are no door panels.

[sweetbmxrider]

Sharp edges is the 1st thing that comes to mind. Especially if there are no door panels.

yeah but they did away with a lot of the bs failures to lessen the payout to parsons.

[B4C]

psshh theres no sharp edges...i survived on the back floor.:rofl:

:lol: it actually more comfy back there w/o the seats

Sharp edges is the 1st thing that comes to mind. Especially if there are no door panels.

I have door panels on the car I took out only what was necessary to get the carpet out

[BonzoHansen]

Don't argue with me, I have no say. :) The question is why and I told you one potential reason. Mike already stated it might happen, based on experience. BMXr is right, it is probably dependent on the inspector. If you fail you put it back in and go back.

[Jersey Mike]

Get inside the car and have a friend flood each panel with a garden hose until you've found the source of the problem. Mine was in the driver's side rear quarter panel, if it helps.

[B4C]

Get inside the car and have a friend flood each panel with a garden hose until you've found the source of the problem. Mine was in the driver's side rear quarter panel, if it helps.

I doesn't leak that bad normally just leaked during that awful storm I know where it came in from, I also need to adjust my windows up because they drip alittle. I was an hourly mechanic I know about water leaks :lol:

Don't argue with me, I have no say. :) The question is why and I told you one potential reason. Mike already stated it might happen, based on experience. BMXr is right, it is probably dependent on the inspector. If you fail you put it back in and go back.

Slow your roll hommie :lol: jk I was just saying my door panels are on wasn't arguing

[89 Trans Am WS6]

Hey guys,

Just as a update, PIFs (private insp facilities) are now using the new system just like the MVC lanes. We went online with the system this past monday. Just a few things you all should know.

You fail, once. Under the old system if you waited more then 45 days after failing it forced on you a full inspection. This benefited some people as it allowed them to have emission repairs done by a shop not authorized to do them, clear a MIL and hope it did not come back on, or having a car inspected before the monitor that tripped the MIL ever ran all without having to submit paperwork on who/when/why the car was repaired. This is a thing of the past. Even cars that failed a year ago on the old system are comming up as still failed on the new. Nothing gets a full inspection unless its the first time. Cars need to be fixed.

Any PIF or CIF can also pull up your last VIR with just your vin now. You all can do this too by going to this url. http://njvir.appsolgrp.com:8010/VIRPrint/pages/vir/virSearch.jsf

Could possibly come in handy for buying a used car too? idk figured I would post it up.

I got a few more things to share, but I need to run to work now. Talk to you all later!

[B4C]

...without having to submit paperwork on who/when/why the car was repaired. This is a thing of the past.

Eah what? I failed under the old system for emissions, fixed the car, lost the paperwork, came back for inspection under the new system and passed w/o the paperwork...he just put in vehicle repaired by motorist and it didn't ask for anything. So this confuses me?

[deadtrend1]

ok, my question. Bigal told me yes, and while I don't doubt him I just want to be sure...

Does the horn have to be on the steering wheel, or can it be a button on the dash?

[1QWIKBIRD]

ok, my question. Bigal told me yes, and while I don't doubt him I just want to be sure...

Does the horn have to be on the steering wheel, or can it be a button on the dash?

as long as you have a functioning horn that is all that matters. where the button is, no big deal. Ford thunderbirds in the 80's has the horn on the turn signal stalk, you had to push the stalk into the column to make the horn work (dumb, but ford, what do you want?)

My dad used to have a VW Bus and his horn failed, so he rigged up a button and passed.

As long as its not a micro switch hidden under the dash you should be fine.

[89 Trans Am WS6]

The inspector has 3 options when it comes to picking a repair option. "Motorist Repaired"., Facility Repaired". and "Not Repaired." What he did would would work, but thats not the point. (or right) On the previous system if it was over 45 days you wouldnt even need paperwork. It would be a full insp and he would never ask for it.

The button is definitely cool. Unfortunately like most things mentioned in this post, it depends on the inspector. Until now each PIF has had a copy of "the blue book". Basically the holy bible of NJ inspections. It contains all the information on what passes, and what fails. Since we got online with the new system, the state has decided to upload the "blue book' online, and no longer use a printed copy. This lets them save some money, and always update it, whenever they want.

Knowledge is power guys and gals. The constantly updated PIF manual is located here:
http://www.state.nj.us/mvcbiz/pdf/Business_Licenses/pif-manual.pdf
This manual covers everything down to the proper size of a NJ state insurance card. Use this whenever you have a question, and use it to hold your ground of a ignorant parsons employee tells you different at a state lane.

Hope it helps!

[TAdan]

My 84 is coming due for inspection next month. I'd like to take it to a private shop as I absolutely hate having people/ total strangers crawl all over it at the state inspection places.

Any one know of any F-body friendly inpsection shops in central NJ? I'd just like to deal with a human being, not one of the drones that work at the state places.

Thanks.

[WildBillyT]

My 84 is coming due for inspection next month. I'd like to take it to a private shop as I absolutely hate having people/ total strangers crawl all over it at the state inspection places.

Any one know of any F-body friendly inpsection shops in central NJ? I'd just like to deal with a human being, not one of the drones that work at the state places.

Thanks.

Maybe the guy that posted right above you?

[TAdan]

Ah, sorry I did not see that he worked for a private shop. D'oh! Thanks. :wink:

Joe, PM inbound.

[Tru2Chevy]

Question for anyone familiar with the new inspection system as it pertains to private shops.

I have heard that regulations changed with regard to shops being able to inspect vehicles with modified suspensions (like my lifted Jeep). Anyone heard anything about this?

- Justin

[greenformula92]

If you fail for Safety 3 times will they yank your reg.?

[BonzoHansen]

If you fail safety 3 times that's not good. But I don't remember the rules as to repeat failures anymore. I don't remember any reg revoking. It's been a while but IIRC you used to get 90 days to repair, but that date was not extended by each re-inspect. Adam probably knows the current seal.

[greenformula92]

If you fail safety 3 times that's not good. But I don't remember the rules as to repeat failures anymore. I don't remember any reg revoking. It's been a while but IIRC you used to get 90 days to repair, but that date was not extended by each re-inspect. Adam probably knows the current seal.

well i had a right rear brake issue where it wasn't even with the driver side and the first time it was bad so i put new pads and rotors on, checked the slides and made sure the caliper worked correctly. and it was better but not good enough. so i just changed the line and that should do the trick but just in case it fails again, which it shouldn't, i just want to know if they can do that

[89 Trans Am WS6]

There is a note on the bottom of the Vehicle inspection report that says reg can be revoked but I have never heard of it happening. I suppose it could, but again that memo has ALWAYS been there.

Justin- How big is the lift? Nothing has changed in regards to a PIF being able to inspect modified suspensions. Just keep in mind the super gray areas of MVC law. I believe over 4? inches of lift is the point you are required to go to a special state facility to do a tilt test in addition to the standard inspection. You don't see it to often but thee vehicles get two stickers, a standard one and a second for the tilt test. This is funny because technically ANYTHING that modifies a vehicle from factory is grounds for failure(according to the PIF manual, not reality) This includes suspension, engine parts, CARB extempt stuff, its all technically grounds for failure. With that being said, no bro whatever shop used to do your inspections should still be able to do them.

The only reason they may NOT be able to is if they opted to buy the new machine WITHOUT the gas bench. When we were given the original purchasing options we had 3 choices. The entry level machine was a OBD only machine. It allowed the facility to do vehicles MY 96 and up as long as it is under 8600lbs. This includes passenger car and light truck diesels. Over 8600lbs requires a tail pipe test and can not be done on that machine.

The second option was the base machine with the add on gas bench.This allows full coverage for all vehicles. Pre 96 tail pipe tests, OBD tests, and newer vehicles that are over 8600lbs gvw. This is what we opted for. Alot of shops did not and as a result we are doing all of their older car inspections now.

The last option which we did not do, and probably wont is the add on for diesel opacity. This is not for a F350, this is for BIG diesels. I forget the actual cutoff but I would say somewhere around 15000 lbs...our flatbed is 19500 and it gets this test. You may see some of your old private facilities doing these tests now, especially if they do alot of diesel work. This is because MVC combined the PIF and DEC licenses so you only need one now to do both. All you need is to buy the addons.

Hope it helps!

Joe

[Tru2Chevy]

Justin- How big is the lift? Nothing has changed in regards to a PIF being able to inspect modified suspensions. Just keep in mind the super gray areas of MVC law. I believe over 4? inches of lift is the point you are required to go to a special state facility to do a tilt test in addition to the standard inspection. You don't see it to often but thee vehicles get two stickers, a standard one and a second for the tilt test. This is funny because technically ANYTHING that modifies a vehicle from factory is grounds for failure(according to the PIF manual, not reality) This includes suspension, engine parts, CARB extempt stuff, its all technically grounds for failure. With that being said, no bro whatever shop used to do your inspections should still be able to do them.

Thanks Joe. My Jeep currently has an out-of-date sticker from a private shop on it (was inspected the month before I bought it). When I inquired at a few local places, I was told that private shops were not allowed to inspect lifted trucks at all, regardless of the amount of lift. I was told it was because they only wanted state facilities measuring lift to see if a tilt test was required. My Jeep has an approx. 3.5" suspension lift and I run a 31" tire as opposed to the stock 28.3" tire, so according to the math it should be tilt tested, but when I measure out body height over stock (at the rocker) it's about 3.75" over stock, so should be able to go through normal inspection....I'd just rather not let a state facility nitpick it to death if I could take it to a private shop and have it inspected there.

- Justin

[maroman88]

any update on the safety part being dropped?

[NJ Torque]

any update on the safety part being dropped?


Nothing as of yet.

[Jersey Mike]

Heard that there were some delays & they weren't going to be in effect til August?

[Tru2Chevy]

One of my co-workers took his car through inspection at the Bakers Basin station yesterday afternoon, and he received an emissions-only inspection. They told him that they were doing a trial run of the emissions-only inspections.

- Justin

[BlackBADaSS02]

http://blogs.app.com/capitolquickies/2010/07/16/motor-vehicle-inspections-go-emissions-only-in-two-weeks/
According to the article, emission only testing takes effect on August 1st.

[rbaksi]

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/PressReleases/archives/2010/071610.htm

[V]

whoohoo!. no more stupid motorcycle inspections AND my 96 dodge ram cummins diesel no longer requires inspection.

[Tru2Chevy]

whoohoo!. no more stupid motorcycle inspections AND my 96 dodge ram cummins diesel no longer requires inspection.

The Ram should still need a visible smoke test, right?

- Justin

[V]

The Ram should still need a visible smoke test, right?

- Justin


the site said there are no more inspections for motorcycles or diesel vehicles of a certain GVWR or 96 and older diesels.... so not sure really... lol

middle/bottom left corner of this link...
http://www.njinspections.com/

nothign i could find mentioned any visible smoke test.

[89 Trans Am WS6]

Here is what came over the PIF machines the other day:

If you save and zoom its clear. Sorry, no scanner and not typing it all out lol.



ps dont forget whatever MVC decides to do for inspection has NOTHING to do with state law. Just because you got a sticker doesnt mean you cant get a ticket.

Enjoy

Edit: idk if it works in IE but in firefox i can resize in my browser and read it all clear.

[89 Trans Am WS6]

This came over today.

CREDENTIAL CHECK ADVISORY 7/30/2010

Along with the changes to the enhanced vehicle inspection and maintenance program, starting August 1st 2010, any vehicle presented for an emission only testing will be granted an ADVISORY for any credential discrepancy. These advisories will be issued for e discrepancies pertaining to drivers licenses, vehicle registrations, license plates, and insurance cards. Motorists will be advised of discrepancies and informed to obtain the necessary documentation as soon as possible. IT should be noted that they can be cited by law enforcement at any time for thee discrepancies. The motorists are not required to return for re-inspection for these items.

Sooooo... it looks to me basically you don't even need a registered or insured vehicle to pass inspections anymore. OR hell even have a license! I guess its good news for the countless uninsured motorists we already have in this state.

Just a update on the craziness of it all for you guys. :p

[Jersey Mike]

Aug 1st is a Sunday; they're not open, correct?

[sweetbmxrider]

they started switching to non-safety inspections the last week in july, if that's what you are asking.

[1QWIKBIRD]

The Ram should still need a visible smoke test, right?

- Justin

Probably not.

My 97 2500 Ram with the CTD has a GVWR of 8800lbs (check inside the driver door), so I'm never going through inspection again and his 96 is likely the same.

Now you could still be subjected to a snap test if you get caught in a roadside check. A snap test is where they basically beat the **** out of the truck with it in neutral. They stand on the accelerator and take it to redline. While this is happening they have a meter at the tail pipe and measure opacity (how much light is blocked out by soot particulates emitted from the tail pipe). If the truck is stock or very close and in good running condition, its nothing to worry about. I just don't like some yahoo standing on the accelerator and running it up 2500-2700 rpms with no load.

I got caught in a roadside check in 2007 and they did the snap test on my truck and I was 8.96% opacity, so I only blocked out 8.96% of the light. Totally clean exhaust would be 0% and full blockage would be 100%.

At the time of the test it was a pilot program and opacity standards for heavy duty diesels (not even sure if my CTD falls into this class? I think its a medium duty) were as follows:

Pre 1973 = 70%
1974-1990 = 55%
1991 and newer = 40%

They were proposing (not sure if this was passed or not?)
Pre 1991 = 40%
1991-1996 = 30%
1997 and newer = 20%

So even under the newer standards I was well within the acceptable range. Now if you have the fuel turned up (bigger fuel plate, rack adjustment, injectors etc.) or are running a programmer on the newer trucks (with injectors etc.), you could find yourself in a compromised position. But even still you can fine tune this stuff to eliminate the smoke show if want or need to. That smoke is just unburnt fuel, it has little/nothing to do with the amount of power being made. And it can even be modulated by how fast your bring the rpms up and how much load is on the engine. I can be at 65 MPH and stand on the throttle and blow smoke easily, but if I roll the throttle in, the truck accelerates just as fast but only creates the slightest "haze" of smoke, not the thick black cloud that blocks out the sun.

[V]

commercially plated diesel vehicles have smoke test still

and my ram is 100% stock still

[maroman88]

wellll here we go! i took my 95 formula with 178k miles thru a state inspection (paramus) this afternoon. there was NO line at all, no wait nothing nada... drove right into the building, got out, they sniffed my tail pipe, didnt look at anything else, checked my gas cap, slapped on a fresh sticker!!

funny part was seeing the guys all checkin out my old sticker, it passed with a waiver in july 2001, and expired july 2003 lol

[DaSkinnyGuy]

and expired july 2003 lol

epic pass

[wretched73]

Just passed in my camaro today. I told the guy off the bat I had a snapped e-brake cable and i still passed. They did the sniffer and checked my gas cap and slapped on a sticker. But i need to reinspect in 2011, which I thought was odd.

[Tru2Chevy]

Just passed in my camaro today. I told the guy off the bat I had a snapped e-brake cable and i still passed. They did the sniffer and checked my gas cap and slapped on a sticker. But i need to reinspect in 2011, which I thought was odd.

What was the year on the sticker they scraped off? 2009?

- Justin

[BlackBADaSS02]

:w00t: Passed inspection today. Last time I took it through inspection was in 2004, when I first bought the car.

[wretched73]

What was the year on the sticker they scraped off? 2009?

- Justin

yes it was, is it 2 years from when it was supposed to be inspected?

[Jersey Mike]

:w00t: Passed inspection today. Last time I took it through inspection was in 2004, when I first bought the car.

Did they rev the piss out of your car?

[BlackBADaSS02]

Did they rev the piss out of your car?

No, they didn't rev it at all. I was getting a little worried when they broke out the mirror and where cheking out underneath the car. They spent a long time checking out my Kooks LT's and catted Y.

[sweetbmxrider]

yes it was, is it 2 years from when it was supposed to be inspected?

2 years from the sticker on the car. if there is no sticker, 2 years from the current month/year. if it was newly registered and you got a pink card, 2 years from the date on the pink card. commercial registration is inspected every year now and gets a safety test still.

[Jersey Mike]

That was a quick inspection. I really thought I was going to have a hard time but passed--2000 LS1 EGR & AIR removed & tuned out, LTs, no rear o2s, high flow cats, electric cutout before muffler.

Was talking to the guy & he said that because of the new system they're laying off a ton of people...

[bandit88]

my co-worker thinks he can get his car to pass with cats o2 sensors and a y-pipe. what do you guys think

IMO he's gunna fail

[fmybody]

i coulda swore i read that cars 5 years old and newer got an automatic pass but my buddy failed with his 06 goat.

[V]

depends if they count 2011 as a model year already which they might as of aug 1st.
so 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, and 2007 would be the automatic pass years...
thats all i could think of.

edit:
http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/pdf/Inspections/FAQinspection.pdf

if you scroll down it says cars 5 model years and older must get inspected...

[LTb1ow]

Kinda silly question but here we go... if I were to tell DMV I repowered my car with an OBD2 LT1, when go to get tested would they test as a OBD2 car or OBD1?

Pretty sure it goes off VIN right?

[maroman88]

Kinda silly question but here we go... if I were to tell DMV I repowered my car with an OBD2 LT1, when go to get tested would they test as a OBD2 car or OBD1?

Pretty sure it goes off VIN right?

pretty sure they just go by model year... pre 96 gets obd1

[sweetbmxrider]

Kinda silly question but here we go... if I were to tell DMV I repowered my car with an OBD2 LT1, when go to get tested would they test as a OBD2 car or OBD1?

Pretty sure it goes off VIN right?

dude, no. your car gets tailpiped.

[fmybody]

depends if they count 2011 as a model year already which they might as of aug 1st.
so 2011, 2010, 2009, 2008, and 2007 would be the automatic pass years...
thats all i could think of.

edit:
http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/pdf/Inspections/FAQinspection.pdf

if you scroll down it says cars 5 model years and older must get inspected...

what does that mean "5 model years" does that mean 06 gets inspected or not? lol

[V]

2010(1st model year), 2009(2nd model year), 2008(3rd model year), 2007(4th model year), and 2006(5th model year) ..

SO... a 2006 DOES get an emissions inspection.

[fmybody]

hahha wow i missread that.. i thought the emphasis was on model years (like it ment something different than years..) and really the emphasis was on "OLDER" GOTCHA! ill have to break the news to him ..

he got rejected for a SES light... and he ripped off his rejected sticker cause he thought he was going to get an extention sticker in the mail.

[fmybody]

well apparently he got an extention sticker soo i cant read.. or its written in a questionalble way or something.. or my friends bustin my chops. i dunno lol

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Got a 1 year extension sticker for my 06 Exploder.

[V]

eh, maybe they dont even know what they're doing at the inspection stations... oh well lol

[B4C]

So anyone know if the got rid of the tilt table test now that saftey inspections are done with??

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

So anyone know if the got rid of the tilt table test now that saftey inspections are done with??

I'm 99% sure JerzLt1 just had to go through that with his truck. I remember him posting up about it.

[Tru2Chevy]

Yea, they still have the tilt test. AFAIK none of the rules specifically pertaining to lifted trucks have changed.

- Justin

[emolineaux]

might sound like a pretty stupid question but will a vehical fail due to the shift indicator on the dash not working?

[WildBillyT]

might sound like a pretty stupid question but will a vehical fail due to the shift indicator on the dash not working?

It is my understanding that it's emissions only now. So you can't even fail for broken turn signals.

[GrandmasterCow]

Has anyone had any runons with the mobile inspection units ? Do they have the same rules or no ?

[fmybody]

Has anyone had any runons with the mobile inspection units ? Do they have the same rules or no ?

they do some kind of random inspection stops by my house ... they do them in the parking lot of deko lounge... i went by in nuetral lol just in case but i didnt get stopped for no front plate! :)

[emolineaux]

i do have to say today was by far the quickest dmv stop ive ever made. brought the truck to delanco station and was back on the road in a couple mins.

[deadtrend1]

might sound like a pretty stupid question but will a vehical fail due to the shift indicator on the dash not working?

It is my understanding that it's emissions only now. So you can't even fail for broken turn signals.

used to and correct.

My old mans previous F150 did. Read N when in D and or 3 when it was in D. Cant remember which way, but failed. Now its not a concern.

[crzyj1]

i have an 83 Bonneville with QQ tags on it lost my front tag and yes I did get a ticket

[89firebird]

I had a tag fall off the front of my truck one time and i got a ticket for it i got a call saying they had it at the local pd i went there to get it and got pulled over like a mile before there and got a ticket for no front tag

[fmybody]

I had a tag fall off the front of my truck one time and i got a ticket for it i got a call saying they had it at the local pd i went there to get it and got pulled over like a mile before there and got a ticket for no front tag

wow and i thought i had bad luck... how much is that ticket anyway?

[IROCZman15]

$54

nj statute 39:3-33

[fmybody]

$54

nj statute 39:3-33

just dodged that day before yesterday... got stopped at the random stop i mentioned in this thread befre... right next to Deko lounge in Sayreville usually there about noon. I drive by coming home from school some days.. and they finally made me pull in

i gave them my info and a buddy's PBA and he just told me to get it fixed (i told him it broke)

but 54 mmmmm... im not sure if thats high or not. lol

the bracket and plate on the SS looks soo "buck toothed" i hate it.

[HennessyZ28]

Took my 96 lifted, 3" over the limit oh so :shrug:, s10 Blazer with ABS light and airbag light on. Went right through. Love emissions only!!

[HennessyZ28]

oh snap, didn't see the last post was in 2010!!:banghead:

[89 Trans Am WS6]

Just an update - If you have not heard NJ no longer does emissions testing for pre 1996 vehicles!

The following vehicles are exempt from inspection requirements (N.J.A.C. 13:20
-7.2):
•
Gasoline powered vehicles registered passenger, model year 1995 & older with a
GVWR 8,500 pounds or less.
•
Gasoline powered vehicles registered passenger, model year 2007
& older with a
GVWR 8,501 to 14,000 pounds.
•
Gasoline powered vehicles registered passenger, model year 2013 & older with a
GVWR 14,001 pounds or more.
•
Historic
motor
vehicles
•
Approved Collector Vehicles which are less than 25 years old
•
100% Electric vehicles
•
Motorcycles
•
Motorized bicycles
•
Farm tractors and traction equipment
•
Farm machinery and implements
•
Fire trucks having a GVWR of more than 8,500 pounds
•
In-transit construction equipment
•
All
diesel
-fueled motor vehicles
with
a gross vehicle weight rating (
GVWR
) 8,501 pounds to
17,999
that are plated commercial or Passenger Vehicle Transportation (PVT) are
required to
be inspected by the owner or lessee
•
All
diesel powered vehicles
with a gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR) 8,501 to 17,999 that
are plated passenger, not for profit, governmental,
commuter van, farmer or farm truck
except buses
•
All diesel powered vehicles model year 1996 and older that are plated passenger, not for
profit, governmental, commuter van, farmer or farm truck except buses
•
Omnibuses which are subject to inspection by th
e Commission‘s Commercial Bus Inspection
and Investigation Unit
•
School buses which are subject to inspection by the Commission‘s School Bus Inspection Unit
•
Tactical military vehicles operated on Federal installations within this State Contractor
equipmen
t in transit

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Inspections/VehiclesExempt.htm

[V]

Wow, the diesel commercial requirement changed. I dodge not know that part was coming. That means if i register my dodge ram commercial, i can now stay state inspection free. Before it was like 10,500 gvwr. Now its 8500-17900, and Im at 8800gvwr.

[Injuneer]

You can peal the inspection sticker off 1995 and earlier exempt vehicles when it expires and you get this notice:

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Inspections/tailpipe.htm

[cycomiko]

Getting ready to install long tube headers. What will I need to pass inspection. Do they still do a plug in, visual and sniffer? 96 formula. I guess I'll install two high flow cats. Does it matter where I put them?

[V]

1996 is a visual and obdII plug-in check.
No sniffer at all for anything. Most laws state cats must be in factory locations but who knows if all techs know where that location is. I'd just do 2 cats right after the collectors, and make sure car doesn't have any codes.

[cycomiko]

Sweet thanks.

[sweetbmxrider]

http://www.siliconeintakes.com/dsm-intercooler-piping/high-flow-cat-p-573.html