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Tsar
05-03-2009, 06:25 PM
I guess this is another reason not to buy a car during first year of production...

I guess it will be a new void warranty indicator.
http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=24056&stc=1&d=1241368799

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=24057&stc=1&d=1241368799

http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21112
transmaro93
05-03-2009, 06:45 PM
wow thats terrible.... cant beleive that didnt happen to test vehicles and if it did why they wouldnt fix the problem.... there is obviously way to much stress on that bumper cover....
edpontiac91
05-03-2009, 06:53 PM
MAN, what an expensive RECALL that's going to be. Replace the bumper, repaint it to look PERFECT and having buyers and owners questioning QUALITY CONTROL. Hey Al, got an answer for this FUBAR! :shock:
FIcamaroRE92
05-03-2009, 06:58 PM
oh ****!
Mike
05-03-2009, 06:59 PM
MAN, what an expensive RECALL that's going to be. Replace the bumper, repaint it to look PERFECT and having buyers and owners questioning QUALITY CONTROL. Hey Al, got an answer for this FUBAR! :shock:

caps suck
Knipps
05-03-2009, 07:26 PM
caps suck
been explained to him many times

and all i have to say is wtf
Teds89IROC
05-03-2009, 07:37 PM
That does suck
procamaroz28
05-03-2009, 07:37 PM
that sucks
thunder
05-03-2009, 07:38 PM
is that both sides?
Tsar
05-03-2009, 07:39 PM
is that both sides?
yes.
NastyEllEssWon
05-03-2009, 07:40 PM
yes. its caused by strong wind forces getting caught in the headlight pockets and pushing up on the hood/bumper area. like said in that thread...even if you dont go 150 mph this can happen over a year or two in some decent headwinds over a year or two.




gm really dropped the ball on this one. im really glad too.



2002 gm kills the camaro
2010 camaro returns the favor
BonzoHansen
05-03-2009, 07:46 PM
2002 gm kills the camaro
2010 camaro returns the favor
Ok, that's funny.


I guess this is another reason not to buy a car during first year of production...I could not agree more. Any model, any brand.
Teds89IROC
05-03-2009, 07:50 PM
wait, is that the camaro?
Tsar
05-03-2009, 07:54 PM
wait, is that the camaro?
Did you read the thread title and click on the link? :lol:
Teds89IROC
05-03-2009, 07:55 PM
Did you read the thread title and click on the link? :lol:

i'm just adding to the thread....that reply by thunder killed me :lol:
Tsar
05-03-2009, 07:57 PM
i'm just adding to the thread....that reply by thunder killed me :lol:
Gotcha... I laughed at that one too.. it was a sad laugh.
BonzoHansen
05-03-2009, 08:18 PM
This guy makes Al look like a hater.

whine whine whine that's all I ever hear on here anymore. this car's taking to long, where's my car it's been 3 weeks wtf, they shouldn't be putting these cars out if. . .

man it's getting bad. I use to enjoy coming on here now all I do is hit the highlights and get off. but damn can't make people happy. damned if you do damned if you don't.
Knipps
05-03-2009, 08:26 PM
It's understandable though, if they didn't have anything to complain about there'd be no posts over there :lol:
BonzoHansen
05-03-2009, 08:30 PM
Sure there would.

"man, it's great"
"Sure is"
"yeah"
"+1"
"+2"
"w00t!"
Blackbirdws6
05-03-2009, 08:40 PM
Man I would be PO'd....
BigAls87Z28
05-03-2009, 08:45 PM
Another reason why they should have not done the retro thing.
While they did a great job in design, they should have went with a more modern front end, making the two other cars look totaly outdated.
But whatever....that really really sucks. Strike 2.
madness410
05-03-2009, 08:55 PM
to fix that they need a new bumper? they cant just paint over it?
BonzoHansen
05-03-2009, 08:56 PM
to fix that they need a new bumper? they cant just paint over it?

Really? :-?
madness410
05-03-2009, 08:57 PM
Really? :-?

yeah why not...
BonzoHansen
05-03-2009, 08:58 PM
yeah why not...

You do see the big cracks, right?
madness410
05-03-2009, 08:59 PM
yeah i do...but cant that be fixed without replacing the entire bumper?
BonzoHansen
05-03-2009, 09:00 PM
No, it cannot.
Mike
05-03-2009, 09:02 PM
No, it cannot.

it can, but not the way a brand new car should be
BonzoHansen
05-03-2009, 09:04 PM
it can, but not the way a brand new car should be

No fix would last w/o re-engineering the bracing behind it.
NJ346
05-03-2009, 09:04 PM
it can, but not the way a brand new car should be

plastic welding of some sort?
Tsar
05-03-2009, 09:07 PM
to fix that they need a new bumper? they cant just paint over it?
Tell me you are not serious...

1. You buy a car for around 30k.
2. The bumper cracks.
3. You bring it to the dealer.
4. Dealer paints over the crack and gives it back to you.
5. ???
6. Profit?
BigAls87Z28
05-03-2009, 09:11 PM
I asked myself why doesnt the Challenger have the problem? I looked at pics, and noticed that there is a much smaller lip above the grill area then on Camaro, so less air to be trapped against it.
There is no fix other then a thicker nose cone. With Team Camaro's quest to try to lighten the car, Im sure that thinning the nose cone was one way. Lighter calipers were probably another way.
Saddly...this could be a cause of the weight loss work they did.
Teds89IROC
05-03-2009, 09:49 PM
yeah i do...but cant that be fixed without replacing the entire bumper?

Yea, I would love a little plastic epoxy and bondo on my brand new car...
BigAls87Z28
05-03-2009, 11:05 PM
UPDATE!!!!!

I've been away from the computer most of the day. During that time, I've been informed that the nose on this particular Camaro was a super early production piece, slapped on to get it out the door sooner. GM already knows about the issue, and supposedly it has been taken care of on other cars. Something about a support not being bolted correctly, it wasn't clear what the solution was without seeing the car in front of me.

Anyways, it appears they have a solution. I'm going to re-edit the first post to include this update.


Ok, its a preproduction car, not a production car, as its nto a problem on production cars.
Whew...now fix the caliper problems, and I wont have to keep my eyes peeled for a GXP

that should be easier to read.
BonzoHansen
05-04-2009, 08:09 AM
There is a white GXP at the PMD dealer on Rt 1. Stickers over $40k with gas guzzler tax and stupid sunroof.
Frosty
05-04-2009, 09:01 AM
Yea, I would love a little plastic epoxy and bondo on my brand new car...

Sure, why not? :lol:
ta350
05-04-2009, 11:52 AM
You can not repeat can not do a proper repair on bumper covers if they are sliced, gashed, or cracked all the way through. Yes you can do a repair and fill and bond it together but will not be 100% to factory on strength and apearence
vipergtx500
05-04-2009, 02:40 PM
i hope this isn't a widespread problem, that's all GM needs now, more doubt in their products
Tru2Chevy
05-04-2009, 05:44 PM
i hope this isn't a widespread problem, that's all GM needs now, more doubt in their products

Read the thread....it's not. The car pictured was not a standard production car, and a support brace was not bolted in properly on that particular car.

- Justin