getting closer

[Jersyboyy]

To being on the road once again.
Heres a pic of the engine bay after sand blasting, hand sanding and second coat of primer. Tomorrow comes black paint. Tonight im cleaning the minimal wiring left in the engine bay and putting new loom on it nice and tight so it doesnt look sloppy when its all done.

Next week when the car goes to my buddys shop the new trans I got will attach to the motor and be put in at once and the current trans will be removed prior to, so thats why its still in the car just gonna do it all at once.

[LTb1ow]

It looks. White.

[ar0ck]

...Step away from the spray can

[transmaro93]

looken good... but if i may a few tips next time... take the extra time to remove the the accessories, shocks,, brake booster... etc... it would look much better with that stuff in its original state rather than painted... and also... if its going black... you should have used like a black or dark gray prime... painting black over white is a bitch... and vice versa.... its doable.. no big deall... just need probably 4 -5 coats where as with a dark gray or black you would probably only need 2 coats.... good luck though cant wait to see it at some meets.... you comming to the meet next tuesday??

[madness410]

^ see dude i TOLD you to take the accessories out!

progress is coming along good though man

[Jersyboyy]

looken good... but if i may a few tips next time... take the extra time to remove the the accessories, shocks,, brake booster... etc... it would look much better with that stuff in its original state rather than painted... and also... if its going black... you should have used like a black or dark gray prime... painting black over white is a bitch... and vice versa.... its doable.. no big deall... just need probably 4 -5 coats where as with a dark gray or black you would probably only need 2 coats.... good luck though cant wait to see it at some meets.... you comming to the meet next tuesday??


I could have went above and beyond but im dealing with alot right now and I kinda have to just get this done so with the short time frame of having to get it out of my moms house im doing what I can and taking it to the shop next week hopefully by the end of the week the motor and trans will go in and itll be drivable at least so I can store it somewhere until im ready down the road to keep adding to it.
I plan on going at least 4-5 coats of black and then clear on top it takes a little more time and effort but still not that big of a deal plus its def worth it.
The car wont be ready by the may meet unfortunetlly but I will be bringing the beater cleaned up with a few things added to it sporting some new wheels :), hopefully tho ill have the 383 at the june meet :twisted:

[NastyEllEssWon]

wow that looks like crap man :nod: :mrgreen:



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after looking at that pic....shouldnt those mounts be bolted to the motor and the space in the middle be held onto by a big bolt through the pedastal? im not understanding how your motor is held on with the mounts on there like that.

[SamhainZ28]

afghan, let me know if you need anymore help pushing it in and out of the garage with your crazy mom yelling at us the whole way hahaha

[LTb1ow]

wow that looks like crap man :nod: :mrgreen:





after looking at that pic....shouldnt those mounts be bolted to the motor and the space in the middle be held onto by a big bolt through the pedastal? im not understanding how your motor is held on with the mounts on there like that.


Say what? The engine mounts will slide around them and a big bolt will connect the two pieces...

[camaro2you]

Say what? The engine mounts will slide around them and a big bolt will connect the two pieces...

He must be used to ls1 style mounts where the clamshell with bushing is mounted to the motor where genI sbc its the other way around.

[WildBillyT]

He must be used to ls1 style mounts where the clamshell with bushing is mounted to the motor where genI sbc its the other way around.

Side note. These are the 73+ clamshell motor mounts. 72 and down had solid steel "frame stands" and the rubber mount attached to the engine.

What is in his pic is correct for his year.

OP- Nice job on the prime, it should look good when it's done. I hope you covered the holes on your steering box when you sandblasted.

[NastyEllEssWon]

ooh. haha next time you should tape some of those accessories off. at least the outside looks awesome :nod:

[NJSPEEDER]

:shock: wow

Is that the trans you are planning to use? Now that you shot primer down the dipstick tube and all over the seal you may want to have it gone over or at least replace the seal and tube. Just hope nothing made it anywhere that will cause damage.

I also don't see anything done to prevent the primer getting in any of the exposed lines for the brake lines, power steering, fuel, or the vacuum port for the brakes.

Take this as constructive criticism Jeremy, the 20 minutes you saved by not masking anything off now has the potential to cost you thousands of dollars and who knows how many hours.

[Jersyboyy]

:shock: wow

Is that the trans you are planning to use? Now that you shot primer down the dipstick tube and all over the seal you may want to have it gone over or at least replace the seal and tube. Just hope nothing made it anywhere that will cause damage.

I also don't see anything done to prevent the primer getting in any of the exposed lines for the brake lines, power steering, fuel, or the vacuum port for the brakes.

Take this as constructive criticism Jeremy, the 20 minutes you saved by not masking anything off now has the potential to cost you thousands of dollars and who knows how many hours.

No in the first post I stated this trans is being swapped for my new trans with the new motor at the same time.

As for masking things off....im slapping my head and praying that things arent going to be a problem but I am going to mask those things off before I paint it wow :slapface:.
Wildbilly...another retarted thing I didnt do....what could I do to remove sand from those holes if any got in their? (Im looking on ebay now for a s10 manual box now holy crap im retarted)

[WildBillyT]

No in the first post I stated this trans is being swapped for my new trans with the new motor at the same time.

As for masking things off....im slapping my head and praying that things arent going to be a problem but I am going to mask those things off before I paint it wow :slapface:.
Wildbilly...another retarted thing I didnt do....what could I do to remove sand from those holes if any got in their? (Im looking on ebay now for a s10 manual box now holy crap im retarted)

Short of disassembling the box, not a whole hell of a lot. I'd just learn from the experience.

By the way, what size front tires are you going to run? If you've never driven a car with a manual box and big sticky tires you may want to consider just getting another power box.

[Jersyboyy]

Im planning on putting thinner tires on the front for the street. Itll only be driven on weekends at most and skinnies for the track. Oh and when I first got this car this box had bolts covering the power steering holes. It was essentially a non power steering box...I have no idea if that made it better for the track or not but I ended up going power since it was my dd at that point, point is iv driven it with no power before it sucked but that was every day driving.

I just took the sway bar off(heard its good for drag racing, and I have to really clean it up better before I paint it) Is that something I can put aside since this is more of a track car?

I am going to weigh out the price on different boxes if i can get a manual one cheap enough ill get it other wise ill get another power steering one well see.

And I took the box off...everything except the pitman arm wont pull off the bolt its connected to the steering. (not the bolt connecting the pitman arm to the box the other side) HOW CAN I GET IT OFF?

[Featherburner]

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[Mike]

you can leave the front sway bar off, or you can leave it on and just take it on and off on track days......

[Jersyboyy]

you can leave the front sway bar off, or you can leave it on and just take it on and off on track days......

Sweet thats what I thought tahknks mike.

Now how do you get the pitman arm off the bar that connects the two sides of the steering components?

[WildBillyT]

Sweet thats what I thought tahknks mike.

Now how do you get the pitman arm off the bar that connects the two sides of the steering components?

Edit:

You mean the pitman off of the drag link? I use a ball joint seperator/pickle fork (yeah yeah I know). You can borrow one from Autozone for free I think. They aren't expensive so I just bought one.

[TheBandit]

Jeremy i'm almost positive i have a pitman arm puller. And pretty sure i got a ball joint seperator if you need anything. Shoot me a text.

[Jersyboyy]

I tried using a pickle for and yes drag link thats what its called god iv been trying to figure that out for days now! lol still with the pickle fork I couldnt get it but im going to try again now before work.

[sweetbmxrider]

try smacking the side of it with the hammer.

[NastyEllEssWon]

try smacking the side of it with the hammer.




i told him that last night lol. put a hammer behind it and smack the other side with a hammer. works like a charm

[Teds89IROC]

The firewall, inner wheel wells, and rad support look good. I understand if you're in a rush and need to cut some corners by not removing everything but at least use masking tape..its your friend

[Jersyboyy]

Got it off and finished sanding off al lthe grime in that area i missed before and im going to coninute to reprime it tomorrow. Im getting a new box that needs a rebuild cheap any one know how to rebuild one of these boxes?

[Tru2Chevy]

Got it off and finished sanding off al lthe grime in that area i missed before and im going to coninute to reprime it tomorrow. Im getting a new box that needs a rebuild cheap any one know how to rebuild one of these boxes?

I haven't done it, but you can get a rebuild kit for under $40 (last time i looked) at most parts stores.

- Justin

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it looks like progress, but i will jump on the bandwagon and say WTF were you thinking about not masking anything? seriously, tape or even tinfoil would have taken a few minutes and the finished product would look many times better.

You fuel lines seem to be open as well, probably filled with sand and crap, as well as the trans cooler lines ect....

oh, and your passenger-side strut mount looks wasted

[Jersyboyy]

yea i had a dee dee dee moment like usual. The trans lines can be cleaned out when I swap them. Ill have to see about the fuel lines tho and the brake lines im not worried about I sandblasted with the old pv on and painted carefully not to get into the openings but I am masking things off now for the last prime and paint coats.

Pass strut mount looks wasted, what do you mean by that?


Justin I found the rebuild kit on rockauto for 22 bucks...but thirdgens write up to rebuild the box says it takes 6 hours. I wouldnt mind tackling that but im too busy with other things right now and need this done yesterday so hopefully someone with experience rebuilding one of these boxes who wants some extra quick cash could hit me up.

[//<86TA>\\]

in the one pic, teh top of the strut seems to be way over to one side of the mount, like in rubber bushing in the mount is broken.

[Jersyboyy]

All done. Im thinking of doing another coat with high temp paint but I donno I think this might be good enough. I was thinking about clear coating it too with high temp clear but I donno if I really should go that far what do you guys think?

[Mike]

looks good, i would mask some accessories to leave them flat, and then clear the rest of the bay

[Teds89IROC]

looks good, I agree with Mike.

[//<86TA>\\]

looking good!

now would be a great time to do motor mounts! the are a real PITA though

[Jersyboyy]

looking good!

now would be a great time to do motor mounts! the are a real PITA though

I got clear coat and will finish that up tomorrow.
As for the motor mounts...I have poly ones on the work bench...that is one other thing that will be done before the motor and trans is put in but not until it is at my buddies shop. It will just be easier their with a shop full of tools and what not compared to my garage and rinky dink walmart tool kit!

Btw what would you mask off before clear? Wiper motor box? I cant really think of any thing else.

[Mike]

brake booster, strut mounts, steering linkage.......

[Jersyboyy]

Oh so I didnt clear coat it, I ended up painting it all again with high temp black ceramic engine paint(masked **** off and took out the steering box/shaft) It looks pretty good and its resistant to oil and gas and stuff(more than regular paint at least).

fenders and side skirts are on, master and prop valve are on along with steering shaft.
I pick up my quick ratio steering box from the junkyard tomorrow. Then that goes on and when my 100ft of various size wire loom comes in tomorrow I will loom up all the wires in the engine bay and put the nose on that car.
Tomorrow im also picking up my hooker super comp long tubes :)

At that point ill take pics again and get the car towed to the shop the motors getting put in at, get the motor mounts in and wait on the motor.

Right now the motor is waiting for new wrist pins for the pistons, heads are being cleaned up and put back together with new stem seals and then the motor will be put together and in the car! :)


All I can think of that I need is an exhaust system, I want true duals for a thirdgen with a auto trans if any one knows of any one selling a system.

[Jersyboyy]

Quickratio steering box is in.
Wires are loomed up.
Prop valve and Master cyl are in (barely bled them & barely work so I gotta finish bleeding them)
Fenders are on and headlight backing as well.
PICS -->

Oh yea btw I picked up a set of super comps tonight too WHAT A SCORE let me tell you 200 bucks and their in great shape! :) WOOT for craigslist

[madness410]

coming along nice..whens the motor going to be done bro

[NastyEllEssWon]

haha looks good besides the duct taped NJ 383 on there :wink:

[Jersyboyy]

lol i taped off nj 383 after sanding and polishing that area down to bare metal. then painted the engine bay, it looks cool but it was just a fook around side project I wanted to try out...it gets covered by the coolant overflow tank anyway so it wont be seen. :P

Motor should be in by the end of next week! :)

[sweetbmxrider]

definitely coming along nice. you plan on registering and insuring it this time?

[NastyEllEssWon]

definitely coming along nice. you plan on registering and insuring it this time?






this comment is ftw :nod:

[sweetbmxrider]

:rofl: hahah

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Looking Good

[Jersyboyy]

Ill register and insure YOU(wanted to say hippie but cant any more) lol yes yes I do plan on taking ever precaution to make this car drivable legally and safely :)

When you get your license back for the third time you plan on keeping it for awhile or handing it back to the cops after a week or so?

[sweetbmxrider]

eh more or less a week :lol:

[Jersyboyy]

haha just a week? What a busta

[Jersyboyy]

So the car is coming along even more now. Front clip is all in place and mostly bolted up. Headlights are in all wires loomed up nicely new seats in the car. Just have to finish wiring the dome light up and put the top half of the interior back in(no headliner it got damaged bad in my garage) and its all ready to go get a motor!
PICS

[NastyEllEssWon]

haha fix your headlights :nod:



nice though progress is coming along...lets see this thing run before august :mrgreen:

[Jersyboyy]

HA more like second week of june when I leave for NC

Yea I cant figure out why my headlights look all DEE DEE DEE maybe they had to much nom nom nom?

[WildBillyT]

Copper rotor mod FTL

[Tru2Chevy]

Can't properly fix the headlights until the car is all back together anyway.

- Justin

[Rich2279]

When you changed the engine bay to black did you have to sand the newer white paint or were you able to prime and paint on the white w/out sanding?

[sweetbmxrider]

the white was his primer

[Rich2279]

OH ok.

[Jersyboyy]

Yep what he said.
I had spray painted that engine bay a few years back with cheap stuff no prep right before my 357 went in.
This time I hand sanded EVERY CREVICE and sandblasted the hard to get parts then hit it with the primer(which was white) and then did black ceramic high heat engine paint.