Where we're going...we dont need roads

[BigAls87Z28]

But bring a fifth gen!!

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[DevilDougWS6]

what is taht other car?????? is it a camero??? haha ive never seen a black delorean before.

[BonzoHansen]

Yeah, you don't see painted deloreans much. But that is what it is.

Man, that monster makes the delorean look like a go-kart.

[BigAls87Z28]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNase2qQJAo

More Black Camaro funnness.

[BigAls87Z28]

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-snc1/v4454/251/108/1018838304/n1018838304_443955_6587305.jpg

http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs049.snc1/4454_1145130661311_1018838304_443956_6719187_n.jpg

Challenger is a helllll of a lot bigger.

[madness410]

those deloreans are so awesome..and the camaro is gorgeous as usual. was this your neighbor or something al?

[ta350]

three maybe 4 great cars spotted in those pics. camaro, rx7, delorean, and im thinkin chevelle or nova under the car cover.

[BigAls87Z28]

Nah, I pulled it off another site. I saw the pic and had to post it. The guy just sold the Delorean.

[Knipps]

three maybe 4 great cars spotted in those pics. camaro, rx7, delorean, and im thinkin chevelle or nova under the car cover.
How could you leave out the piece of art known as a Focus?

[NJ Torque]

How could you leave out the piece of art known as a Focus?


Or that Mazda MPV...

[BigAls87Z28]

Thats a Toyota Previa...mid engine Minivan.

[Mike]

those deloreans are so awesome..and the camaro is gorgeous as usual. was this your neighbor or something al?

palm trees + cali plates = not al's neighbor

[sweetbmxrider]

car looks hawt.

no one saw the awesome black minimoto in the garage? guy loves teh black

[NastyEllEssWon]

your logic makes no sense al. how do you get that the challenger is deffinately bigger than the camaro when theyre not even in the same pics....maybe a thirdgen but goddamn the new camaro dwarfs them too.



fail

[baddest434]

your logic makes no sense al. how do you get that the challenger is deffinately bigger than the camaro when theyre not even in the same pics....maybe a thirdgen but goddamn the new camaro dwarfs them too.



fail

:nod: the new camaro is the REAL boat. challenger>camaro... sorry i just don't like the camaro

[NastyEllEssWon]

:nod: the new camaro is the REAL boat. challenger>camaro... sorry i just don't like the camaro




me either. i hate the new camaro. the challenger at least looks like its supposed to...an old HEAVY car. the new camaro just fails on every level...


ESPECIALLY THE CHEAP AND PLASTIC LOOKING category. these cars are gonna look like **** in a few years

[Saitin]

lol I've had a challenger in my parking lot right in front of my door for almost 4 months now and it has grown on me haha, but dam and I thought nasty's TA was a 4x4 lol

[ar0ck]

The RX7 in the background is the nicest looking car in the picture :D

[BonzoHansen]

ESPECIALLY THE CHEAP AND PLASTIC LOOKING category. these cars are gonna look like **** in a few years

Just like 4th gens.... :lol:

[deadtrend1]

Just like 4th gens.... :lol:
:twak:

[BonzoHansen]

:twak:

Hey! I could have said 3rd gens! LOL

[BigAls87Z28]

your logic makes no sense al. how do you get that the challenger is deffinately bigger than the camaro when theyre not even in the same pics....maybe a thirdgen but goddamn the new camaro dwarfs them too.

fail

Funny you say that..
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc1/hs049.snc1/4454_1145477389979_1018838304_444802_2552227_n.jpg

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I dont remember every talking about the Challenger's size in this thread, outside of comparing my third gen to the Challenger that was gassing up in front of me.


me either. i hate the new camaro. the challenger at least looks like its supposed to...an old HEAVY car. the new camaro just fails on every level...


ESPECIALLY THE CHEAP AND PLASTIC LOOKING category. these cars are gonna look like **** in a few years

Challenger was a Pony car, designed ot be lighter then the Charger.
It should have been called Charger coupe. Not Challenger.
Camaro fails on every level? Cause its not heavy? Cause you dont have to pay 40k for 400+hp? Cause you get massive 4 pistion brakes for 30k? Or is it that you can get a 6spd auto or manual in every trim level?
Is it teh 304hp V6 that gets 29mpg? Is that where the fail is?



Hey! I could have said 3rd gens! LOL


Third gens are mostly steel, and still weigh less then the 4th gens, with thier fancy aluminum motors and plastic pannels.

[BonzoHansen]

Al, based his constant ramblings I think he means the interior

[BigAls87Z28]

Meh, Camaro has hard plastics on the top of the door sill, and the center console. Rest is pretty solid, soft touch and low glair plastics.
Cant put leather around everything.

[NastyEllEssWon]

the plastic in the grill and rear fascia is cheap, the interior doesnt look nearly as nice as the g8 or gto's were and with a car weighing in over 4k lbs you better put big brakes on it or your gonna have insurance rates drive up sky high.



next time you take a comparison why not try to get the camaro's back to back like you did with the charger. depth perception can be tricky :wink:

[Ian]

the plastic in the grill and rear fascia is cheap, the interior doesnt look nearly as nice as the g8 or gto's were and with a car weighing in over 4k lbs you better put big brakes on it or your gonna have insurance rates drive up sky high.



next time you take a comparison why not try to get the camaro's back to back like you did with the charger. depth perception can be tricky :wink:

If you're talking about the new Camaro, I'm not sure the bolded part is accurate.

[sweetbmxrider]

i don't think he would be satisfied in a bentley so there is no sense arguing it.

[NastyEllEssWon]

If you're talking about the new Camaro, I'm not sure the bolded part is accurate.





well with the 3900 ss weight i figured with a full tank of gas, coolant, fluids and such it would come in over 4k :nod:

[sweetbmxrider]

the SS auto is 3,913 lb and the SS manual is 3,860 lb. thats curb weight. pending on the driver, you may be over 4k in the manual and its pretty much guaranteed in the auto :lol:

[BigAls87Z28]

I would have blocked the driveway so that was the best spot.
SS is under 4k by 200lbs unlike you beloved challenger

[BigAls87Z28]

I guess if you use your math that would make challenger about 4500lbs. And you only get the big bikes in the 40k SRT8. Guess insurance rates on the RT are gonna be astronomical.

[transmaro93]

delorean in black actually looks better than in the usual stainless.... guy probably go in a fender bender was forced to paint it... they dont make parts for that and you cant repair bare metal and have it look normal... i kind of like it in black... 5th gen is sweet... it is a little chunky though compared to the f-bods of yester year but i still have yet to see one in person so... i liked the challenger in photos but when i saw it in person i nearly puked from sea sickness soo... black rx-7 in the backround is sweet though wouldnt mind one of those................. with a lsx motor heheheheh

[BigAls87Z28]

The guy said that it was his fathers, it was never in an accident and always loved black cars.
I think it looks great in black as well. There is a company in Texas that is starting to remake them, stainless steel and all.

[ta350]

Or that Mazda MPV...

mazda mpv ftw for drag bags for gtos!

[ta350]

... black rx-7 in the backround is sweet though wouldnt mind one of those................. with a lsx motor heheheheh

lsx or not you have to appreciate the engineering and thought put into that car... amazing vehicle.

[The Fixer]

Dayum, the new Camaro is almost 4K lbs? :shock: I love the new Camaro, but it needs that 400hp LS3 if it's gonna be that heavy. I can't wait to test-drive one. I sat in it at NYIAS and fell in loooooooooove.

The funny thing is, people used to rag on the 3rd-gen F's and G-bodies for being "heavy" at 3700, fully loaded with a big driver. My old '85 Monte SS was 3640 with me in it (140lbs) and half a tank of gas on the scale at Etown.

[BigAls87Z28]

Camaro is a bit heavy, and its larger-then-life body work plays into it...but this car is only 100lbs lighter, and its the size of a Cobalt.

http://www.gizmodiva.com/entry_images/0407/04/1-2009-bmw-m3-leak-thumb.jpg

[bandit88]

what is taht other car?????? is it a camero??? haha ive never seen a black delorean before.

they made black deloreans...... as show cars... the ceo of my company has one

[Mike]

Camaro is a bit heavy, and its larger-then-life body work plays into it...but this car is only 100lbs lighter, and its the size of a Cobalt.

http://www.gizmodiva.com/entry_images/0407/04/1-2009-bmw-m3-leak-thumb.jpg

i dont think an m3 is as small as a cobalt al....

[Knipps]

Cobalt; Length × Width × Height: 180.5 x 67.9 x 55.5

BMW M3; Length × Width × Height: 181.7 × 71.6 × 55.8

http://www.rsportscars.com/bmw/2009-bmw-m3-coupe/
http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-cobalt-ss.html

[NastyEllEssWon]

well how does chevy manage to have such a huge car with no interior room. tell me that one :nod:

[Mike]

Cobalt; Length × Width × Height: 180.5 x 67.9 x 55.5

BMW M3; Length × Width × Height: 181.7 × 71.6 × 55.8

http://www.rsportscars.com/bmw/2009-bmw-m3-coupe/
http://www.leftlanenews.com/chevrolet-cobalt-ss.html

wow.......it feels and looks bigger lol

[NastyEllEssWon]

wow.......it feels and looks bigger lol



http://a.beining.com/blog/uploaded_images/drop-it-like-its-hot-20060227054320212-775708.jpg

[Teds89IROC]

wow.......it feels and looks bigger lol

that's what she said

[BigAls87Z28]

well how does chevy manage to have such a huge car with no interior room. tell me that one :nod:

I sat in the car, there was plenty of interior room.
Is there as much interior room as teh foot longer challenger? No.
Is there as much room as there is in a G8? No
Is there as much room as there is in a Mustang? Yes, maybe a touch more in some parts, less in others, but overall same because...shocker...they are about the same size.

wow.......it feels and looks bigger lol

Yeah, 3 series is a very small car, but the M3 is surprisingly heavy. The difference is that the 3 series carries its weight low, as it was designed like a 3 series where the Camaro carries its weight higher, which came from its G8/Commodore cousin which is designed like a 5 series.
GM is looking to make a 3 series sized RWD car for Caddy, named "Alpha". Alpha will also underpin the 6th gen Camaro, if all goes well.

[NastyEllEssWon]

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i125/Jsaul83/100_2219.jpg




forgive me but my 4th gen has much more interior room than that :nod:

[BigAls87Z28]

go out to your car, move the seat all the way back, and then take a picture.
Thanks a bunch.

[Knipps]

forgive me but my 4th gen has much more interior room than that :nod:
Really? that's how you plan on arguing your point? Like Al said, move the seat all the way back and see what happens

[NastyEllEssWon]

my point is. the camaro is big and you dont see any benefits of the bigness on the interior. it slows the car down and probably handles like butt. the problem i have with the camaro's interior is that...

WITH ALL THE BIGNESS OF THE CAMARO...HOW COME THERE ARE NO POSITIVES FROM THE BIGNESS OF IT?????


my point exactly. at least with the the other ''big'' cars you get a nice sized interior.

[BigAls87Z28]

ITS NOT BIG!!
Its smaller then your 4th gen. By your math, your 4th gen should have the same space as a car of its size, and one car that is about the same size of your car is a Hummer H2. Stupid argument, you lose.
I was actually reading Hot Rod Mag's review of the Camaro, and they talk about how far back the seat goes to accomodate very tall passangers.
I sat in the back with someone sitting in the front. I know how much space there is. I have done the work, I have been in the car.
Just because you keep saying it doesnt make it true.
Just because you move the seat all the way back doesnt mean the car doesnt have any space in the rear.

[Tru2Chevy]

2002 Camaro LxWxH = 193.5 x 74.1 x 51.8 -- Wheelbase = 101.1
2010 Camaro LxWxH = 190.4 x 75.5 x 54.2 -- Wheelbase = 112.3

- Justin

[CamaroJoe1987]

im likin the rx-7 in the back though

[2kblackgtp]

painted delorean ftawesome