Holy overpriced...

[Frosty]

http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/1214151425.html

If that car fetches $22K I'll run through Browns Mills nekkid :lol:

Then again it does have the awesome "Vett 350"

[LTb1ow]

1997 car with an LS1 eh....?

[NJ Torque]

yup... corvette maybe, f body not...

[Formulalt1]

I do love Firehawks but no friggin way in hell and that guy must be hitting the pipe hard to expect to get that.

[Frosty]

I emailed him asking him if he swapped in a LS1 and what mods he did to hit 400hp...I'm sure his response will be a good one, lol

[Jam]

i love vette motors!.....

[sweetbmxrider]

eh it could be

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/1214151425.html

If that car fetches $22K I'll run through Browns Mills nekkid :lol:

Browns Mills? I can assure you that you wouldnt be the first.

[WildBillyT]

Your Jeep must be worthy!

I love it.

[jims69camaro]

'97 firehawk with an LS1... it'd be worth the 22k because of how rare it would be. seller is either lying or misinformed.

[madness410]

ud be suprised...if you get the right person to buy it he could sell it for that much lol.

i met this kid last night who bought the most riced out integra, mid '90s for 10k. his excuse was it had a body kit, headers, intake, exhaust, and 43k original miles. most riced out thing ive seen, the guy who sold it made out like a bandit...

[Teds89IROC]

But it has a vette motor...

[Frosty]

But it has a vette motor...

Noooo, it has a VETT motor, there's a difference.

[sweetbmxrider]

clearly, VETT motor is bigger than vette motor. :lol:

[Frosty]

clearly, VETT motor is bigger than vette motor. :lol:

Absolutely....it's true because wikipedia said so. :D

[7998]

Ah a real VETT motor... I had a vett motor in my first Camaro, 2-bolt mains and 1.94 Int valves.

[BurninrubberGT]

he obviously failed english

[NastyEllEssWon]

maybe its an lt4 :rofl:

[LTb1ow]

LT4 ftw. :nod:

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Nice car but definately overpriced

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

LT4 ftw. :nod:

zzzzzzzzzz, yea about 13 years ago lol

[LTb1ow]

LT4 designed off the LS1 design... soooo LT4 ftw. :)

[FIcamaroRE92]

Browns Mills? I can assure you that you wouldnt be the first.

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Frosty]

Browns Mills? I can assure you that you wouldnt be the first.

LOL, I missed this post. So true, so true.

[NastyEllEssWon]

LT4 designed off the LS1 design... soooo LT4 ftw. :)




the only thing they kept was the power :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Frosty]

the only thing they kept was the power :rofl::rofl::rofl:

:lol:

[sweetbmxrider]

lt5?

[GP99GT]

why doesnt anyone consider that it could just be LS1 swapped? its been done many times

[sweetbmxrider]

i thought i said that? if not, i think that is plausible

[Featherburner]

maybe its an lt4 :rofl:If it is, it would be one of 27 and worth every penny he is asking(minus the lame paint job of course)

[CamaroJoe1987]

i doubt its an LT4, unless swapped, the firehawk LT4 in 97 had a T-56. since this one is auto, its most likely a 700R4, LT1

[LTb1ow]

A 97 with a 700R4 eh?

[Frosty]

A 97 with a 700R4 eh?

It might have a vortech on it too. :D

[CamaroJoe1987]

yea, LT1 wasnt equipped with a 700R4 in 97?

[LTb1ow]

erm, no?

4L60E?

[CamaroJoe1987]

ok, i didnt kno that

[CamaroJoe1987]

wait, i thought the 4L60E didnt go into full production until 98, and if so, wouldnt it be the non electrical 4L60 which was another name for the 700R4 as of 1990

[Formulalt1]

4L60-E was used in Fbodys starting 94. The last year a 700R4 was in a Fbody was 92.

[LTb1ow]

Then I guess my car went into the future for its tranny?


The LS1s got a newer version of it, 8L60E or something

[Formulalt1]

Then I guess my car went into the future for its tranny?


The LS1s got a newer version of it, 8L60E or something:rofl:, you are messing with him right?

[CamaroJoe1987]

http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/4l60e.htm
http://www.novak-adapt.com/knowledge/th700r4.htm

just read the history of each

[LTb1ow]

:rofl:, you are messing with him right?

maybe. :rofl:

4L80E is LS1

[Formulalt1]

I can find you sites that say bigfoot is real and living in middle america and that Elvis was spotted in a downtown mall. You believe that too?. They are right that the 4L60 i basically just a renamed 700R4 but even so, it wasn't used in a Fbody since 93 then.

[Formulalt1]

maybe. :rofl:

4L80E is LS1
Getting closer :lol:.

[CamaroJoe1987]

I can find you sites that say bigfoot is real and living in middle america and that Elvis was spotted in a downtown mall. You believe that too?. They are right that the 4L60 i basically just a renamed 700R4 but even so, it wasn't used in a Fbody since 93 then.

ok, so if the 4L60-E wasnt put into full production on both GM's RWD platforms until 98, wat other automatic 4-speed overdrive transmission did they use?

[Formulalt1]

ok, so if the 4L60-E wasnt put into full production on both GM's RWD platforms until 98, wat other automatic 4-speed overdrive transmission did they use?
Everything on a auto Fbody from the factory 94-02 was a 4L60-E. They made mods some years (like TCC lock up in 95) but they are all 4L60-E's.

[CamaroJoe1987]

ok guy

[LTb1ow]

Oh i got it, they came with T800s.

[Formulalt1]

ok guy
:rofl: I feel like I am having a checker eating contest in the special olympics here by just trying to give you correct info. Screw it, continue to sound like a retard. I could give a **** :moon:.

[CamaroJoe1987]

:rofl: I feel like I am having a checker eating contest in the special olympics here by just trying to give you correct info. Screw it, continue to sound like a retard. I could give a **** :moon:.

lol, all i said was ok, chill, i didnt say i dont believe you

[NastyEllEssWon]

lol, all i said was ok, chill, i didnt say i dont believe you




stop arguing facts that are wrong here and post up pics of your ''supercharged 600 rwhp lt1''

[CamaroJoe1987]

stop arguing facts that are wrong here and post up pics of your ''supercharged 600 rwhp lt1''

ok, once i put the door panels back on, with the window switches, put the rear seats back in, put a new opti in, a new water pump in and get it all back together and running i would be more than happy to post as many pics as you guys want, and some videos, so until then i really could give a **** less wat you WANT, so your going to have to wait, im so sorry for wanting to get it started before i post a single pic of this thing man, i really am, i mean that from the bottom of my heart.

[Formulalt1]

ok, once i put the door panels back on, with the window switches, put the rear seats back in, put a new opti in, a new water pump in and get it all back together and running i would be more than happy to post as many pics as you guys want, and some videos, so until then i really could give a **** less wat you WANT, so your going to have to wait, im so sorry for wanting to get it started before i post a single pic of this thing man, i really am, i mean that from the bottom of my heart.
I look forward to seeing pics and a video but OK guy sounds very sarcastic to me (it could have been meant differently and if so I apologize for my reply) and there are tons of sites giving out wrong info on every car out there, just cause its on the net somewhere doesn't make it correct :wink:..

[NastyEllEssWon]

forgot my smilies dammit.. :wink::nod::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::ro fl::rofl::nod::nod::nod::wink::mrgreen::twisted:

[Frosty]

I thought he was being sarcastic too with the "ok guy", lol.

[CamaroJoe1987]

I look forward to seeing pics and a video but OK guy sounds very sarcastic to me (it could have been meant differeantly and if so I apologize for my reply) and there are tons of sites giving out wrong info on every car out there, just cause its on the net somewhere doesn't make it correct :wink:..

i kno, i didnt mean anything by it, me and the guys i chill with use "guy" alot, i was just sayin thats where i got that info from

[Formulalt1]

i kno, i didnt mean anything by it, me and the guys i chill with use "guy" alot, i was just sayin thats where i got that info from
if you read that article further it states in one section about early 92+ 4L60-E's too though. So its a confusing mess of misinfo.

[CamaroJoe1987]

if you read that article further it states in one section about early 92+ 4L60-E's too though. So its a confusing mess of misinfo.

yea, like right here: "The key distinction of the Later 4L60-E (1997-2006) from the Early 4L60-E (1992-1997) or 4L60 (1990-1992) or 700R4 (1982-1989) is the six-bolt "hex" rear output or tailhousing / adapter pattern."

but before they said: "The Late 4L60-E was released in 1997 in and fully phased into wide use through GM by 1998 in both RWD car platforms (including the C6 Corvette) and trucks in both 2wd and 4wd configurations."

^^^ i actually just noticed that they said "LATE right there, completely my fault i misread

[CamaroJoe1987]

I was just skimming through, i didnt even see that, they even said the the 4L60/700R4 was discontinued in f-bodies

[Knipps]

STOP SAYING YOU COULD CARE LESS. THAT MEANS YOU CARE.

:soapbox:

[WildBillyT]

Jesus tap dancing Christ.

The GM trans stuff is this:

# of forward gears engine "direction" GVWR rating - electronic/heavy duty

So a TH400 is a 3L80.
And a 700-R4 is a 4L60.
A 4L60-E has 4 forward gears, longitudinally mounted, is rated for a GVWR of 6000 and is electronically controlled.
A 4T65-HD is a 4 speed auto, transverse mounted, GVWR of 6000, and is "heavy duty"

In F-Bodies, you got this:

First gen- Powerglide, "Torque-Drive", TH350, TH400
Second gen- Powerglide, TH350, TH400
Third gen- TH200/TH350(?- don't know or care), 200-4R and 700-R4
Fourth gen- 4L60 in 93, 4L60-E from then on

[sweetbmxrider]

nice clean up bill

[BonzoHansen]

Third gen- TH200/TH350(?- don't know or care), 200-4R and 700-R4

No TH350. 200-4R in a 3rd gen? Is that just the TTA car?

[NastyEllEssWon]

Third gen- TH200/TH350(?- don't know or care), 200-4R and 700-R4

No TH350. 200-4R in a 3rd gen? Is that just the TTA car?





i think the early 83 and 84s were 200-4r's


hehe dont forget about the 3t60 and the 4t60 regular non hd...ehhe

[WildBillyT]

Third gen- TH200/TH350(?- don't know or care), 200-4R and 700-R4

No TH350. 200-4R in a 3rd gen? Is that just the TTA car?

http://www.highperformancepontiac.com/features/hppp_0610_1989_pontiac_trans_am/index.html

I believe so.

[Frosty]

i think the early 83 and 84s were 200-4r's



83-84 were 200C's weren't they?

200-4r was 89 TTA only.

[BonzoHansen]

i think the early 83 and 84s were 200-4r's


hehe dont forget about the 3t60 and the 4t60 regular non hd...ehhe
Are you ever right about anything? :knock: :lol:

82s got TH200 3 speed autos - not sure when the switch to the 700R4 came about.

[Mike]

forgot my smilies dammit.. :wink::nod::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::ro fl::rofl::nod::nod::nod::wink::mrgreen::twisted:

forgot one.

:bs::bs::bs::bs::bs:

[NastyEllEssWon]

Are you ever right about anything? :knock: :lol:

82s got TH200 3 speed autos - not sure when the switch to the 700R4 came about.




i knew it was a 200 coded trans! bah. im right about stuff....your just never around to see it

[sweetbmxrider]

nasty!

[BonzoHansen]

i knew it was a 200 coded trans! bah. im right about stuff....your just never around to see it


Hey, if a tree falls in the woods and no one is there is hear it, is that when you are right? :lol:

[NastyEllEssWon]

too much fat around the brains :rofl::rofl::rofl:

[Formulalt1]

Hey, if a tree falls in the woods and no one is there is hear it, is that when you are right? :lol:
:rofl: That was friggin awesome. Rippin on people is fun :nod:.

[Frosty]

Hey, if a tree falls in the woods and no one is there is hear it, is that when you are right? :lol:

:rofl: That's sig material right there lol

[GP99GT]

i think its time for this

:threadsu:

[Frosty]

He emailed me back, he says it's a stock, factory LS1, wasn't swapped in. Some people...