sad 2010 camaro story

[miketa95]

My girlfriends uncle pre-ordered a 2010 camaro rs/ss 2ss all black with cyber grey stripes and a ground effects package about a year and a half ago. He has been waiting very patiently for this car, so he could finally ditch his jetta and get back into a Camaro. Well, His car finally arrived at the dealership in Brick yesterday, and when he sat down with the salesman to work out all the final paperwork etc, the salesman informed him they were tacking on an additional $5,000 markup. Of course her uncle said no way was he paying that, (It brought the price to just about $50,000) and that he wouldn't pay any more than MSRP, so the dealer basically told him too bad go home. It's pretty sad that a dealership is going to try and rip off a customer just because they are excited about their vehicle.

Anyway, He found a dealership in New York that promised not to mark it up and he's placing another order, should take another twelve weeks. It's a real shame though, he's had one or more of each generation.

[NastyEllEssWon]

thats the price of business. they wonder why they are tanking too

[BigAls87Z28]

That would be illegal and the dealer would be in a breach of contract. This isnt the first time I have heard this about the Camaro. They are marking them up after they get in.
Contact a lawyer asap. Get that car in you gf's uncle's hands.
And lets hope that they are one of the dealers that get shut down.
Put the dealer's name up here so we know who to stay away from.

[miketa95]

I didn't know that was illegal, i'll have to tell him to look into that. It's a chevy dealer in brick township, i don't live near there so idk what it's called so, whatever chevy dealer is in brick with a black ss

[BigAls87Z28]

Brick Chevy...hrm...on 88? Might be ****in Pine Belt, ****in scumbags. Wouldnt surprise me.
I cant think of any other Chevy dealers in Brick.

But yes, the dealer is in breach of contract. This came up on CZ28 not to long ago with the same story, and even same mark up...disgracefull.
Dealers are treating this car as a ultra rare 30k or less production car.

[crainholio]

If he signed a contract when he made the original order, that contract is binding on both parties.

Had the guy changed his mind, the dealership could have dragged him into court.

From what you've said, the dealership changed it's mind and has attempted to alter the terms of the contract.

If he can produce a signed document, and pay an attorney for ~ 1/2 hour of work, the car's probably his at the originally-agreed price.

[BurninrubberGT]

thats rediculous, i dont get why dealers are marking them up, i know theres hundreds of dealers doing this...its not a limited production car, theres no shortage...absolute bs

[sweetbmxrider]

i don't think pine belt is in brick, but its closest to. its technically lakewood over there. there is also defelice on 88 but that is in point. still close. bull **** none the less.

[BonzoHansen]

Talk to the dealer manager, then the dealer owner. If they won't talk to you or won;t help, then go on to GM itself. **** their day up.


What is the dealer so none of us go there?

[madness410]

yeah bro talk to management...if the owner thinks its right what they are doing to your uncle call gm and a lawyer as said above. not sure what the contract says but im almost positive its a breach..

sorry about your uncles camaro dude...and whats he doing driving a jetta?!

[EllwynX]

If he didn't get anything in writing stating 'To be sold at MSRP' or something signed with the price listed, then it's not illegal.

Wrong, but legal.

[racerx520]

man, thats beat but everyone here is right though, if he signed the contract then the dealership would have no other choice than to sell the car for the already set price.

and i'd say the dealership is probably defelice, pine belt is technically in lakewood, and their commercials call it lakewood too.

[PlanDefeat]

njfboa cruise to brick/lakehurst dealership in protest? than off to seaside bars for drinks i say

[jims69camaro]

i am not surprised. i would also bet it's pinebelt on 88 in lakewood (just outside of brick, close enough to throw a stone). it's sad, but also part of the reason why i wait. they will start selling them under MSRP before too long (remember the GTO?). it sucks for GM to have customers like me, but i know the dealers and all of their tricks. it's best to wait until you have them over a barrel to start negotiations.

[sweetbmxrider]

njfboa cruise to brick/lakehurst dealership in protest? than off to seaside bars for drinks i say

i like your style 8-)

[Frosty]

If he didn't get anything in writing stating 'To be sold at MSRP' or something signed with the price listed, then it's not illegal.

Wrong, but legal.

:werd:

[r0nin89]

Ughhh yeah I think thats DeFelice in point your talking about. I saw a beautiful black SS fully done up when i went to get parts for a job the other day. I said to my buddy I work with "Where the hell did they get an SS for the lot already?!"

[98Gsxr750]

Im fine with cruising there in protest. Followed by some beers. Sold, say no more.

[PlanDefeat]

next week friday or saturday lets get some more ppl of ocean county on this..? if anything the bar scene is a must.....

[miketa95]

I asked him and the dealership is defalice (sp?)

[miketa95]

Ughhh yeah I think thats DeFelice in point your talking about. I saw a beautiful black SS fully done up when i went to get parts for a job the other day. I said to my buddy I work with "Where the hell did they get an SS for the lot already?!"

Yeah that's his car (or at least was) with the ground effects and all. The manager didn't want to negotiate whatsoever, he just told them they could auction it for the extra 5k no problem. After that they just gave him the down payment back. Unfortunately the contract only said the vehicle would be sold at "fair market value." If you all were to go there and make a big scene I bet you he would be in for that as well haha that would be awesome.

[NastyEllEssWon]

im not far. pick a day with nice weather. we can go make some noise :nod:

[r0nin89]

Damn it I dont think I could do that seeing as how the parts manager knows me and gives me wholesale on everything...

You guys could borrow the truck and winch a vet out into the middle of 88 if you want :twisted:

[1972LT1]

I understand that GM can't tell the dealerships what to sell the cars for they can only give a MSRP. The dealerships can sell them for whatever they want. It's too bad that some dealers don't realize that the more they sell the better off they will be. In this economy some dealerships are still trying to screw the buyer out of as much money as they can, rather than sell as many vehicles as they can. And people wonder why dealers are being shut down?!

[jims69camaro]

ok, if you guys are serious about the cruise-in, i think it's only fair that we get the media involved. it would be cool to see defelice get some negative press and it might strong-arm some of the other dealers in the area (you can spit on 5 chevy dealers in the brick/toms river/point pleasant area) into knowing that they can't get away with this.

the media will only get involved if we make a big splash. if fewer than ten people are actually willing to go, then i wouldn't call anyone. since our meets are ~15-20 people on a regular basis, i wouldn't think we'd be able to garner that kind of support. i could be wrong...

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Yea the 5th gens going to tank.... I just cant see the camaro "demo" forking out 40-50k . Too rich for my blood, id rather spend 20-25k on a terminator cobra and piss on that thing all day long w/ ease.

[sweetbmxrider]

damn defelice is the **** too for parts. i deal with them on a regular basis so i can't get too rowdy.

[maroman88]

just send em a link to this thread to give em a lil scare first

[HeadlessNorseman]

Yea the 5th gens going to tank.... I just cant see the camaro "demo" forking out 40-50k . Too rich for my blood, id rather spend 20-25k on a terminator cobra and piss on that thing all day long w/ ease.

Like has probably been said a million times, it is pointless to compare used cars to new cars. Of course its going to cost less. But you cant get a new one with a warranty. The camaro is going to do fine once there are enough of them they cant charge a markup anymore. In a couple months they will be everywhere just like the cobalt SS.

[BonzoHansen]

Yea the 5th gens going to tank.... I just cant see the camaro "demo" forking out 40-50k . Too rich for my blood, id rather spend 20-25k on a terminator cobra and piss on that thing all day long w/ ease.

40-50? I thought they ran 22-40?

[87GTA]

ha ha wow dealers have been doing this for years!! listen to what he says a 5:15 in this video!!http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WQy5XETyEo

[NastyEllEssWon]

40-50? I thought they ran 22-40?



dealer markup for an ss. read the original post


the salesman informed him they were tacking on an additional $5,000 markup. Of course her uncle said no way was he paying that, (It brought the price to just about $50,000)


well that would put it in the 40-50 range. ACTUAL PRICE MEANS NOTHING if a dealer isnt willing to sell it cheaper than the marked up price. the dealers are doing the exact opposite of what it should be doing. they should be trying to sell the crap our of them instead of holding ORDERED CARS for 5k MORE.


this is the reason the camaro will tank. not just because it is a tank :rofl:

[mc73nova]

That is BS, I love Chevy's and the new Camaro but the way they are treating people because a car, I'm glad they are struggling. I feel bad for the factory workers but the dealers are the ones to blame. I cant stand sales people, they dont know **** about what they sell anyway. Its hard to buy American when they have dick heads selling you them.

It depends how you order it too. There was an orange SS with a sticker price of $43k because he got a lot of dealer installed items, the wheel/tire package he picked was a $4200 option.

[Squirrel]

well tell him that the contract is no longer valid, by accepting the down payment back the contract was voided and a new contract must be made, and dont think it will be the same, it will be the old contract +5000

[Jersey Mike]

That's just how the market works. Those who want it first pay a premium. Supply & Demand; when the supply is low, Price goes up.
Sorry about the uncle, luckily he's found a dealer that will work with him though. Tough that it's going to take an extra 3 months, but at least he'll get it for the price he wants.

[BigAls87Z28]

Keep in mind that Chevy, GM have no way in controling the price the dealer charges due to franchise, state and federal laws.

[HeadlessNorseman]

the dealers are the ones to blame. I cant stand sales people, they dont know **** about what they sell anyway. Its hard to buy American when they have dick heads selling you them.



I dunno where you shop for cars but i dont think ive been to a dealership where they arent like this. I would say it has nothing to do with the dealers...