The epic saga of my BOOSTED LQ9 Z

[S.J.SLEEPER]

Hey guys, figured i'd share my accomplishment.
got done w/ my lq9 install.
here are the stats:
408 lq9
custom ported heads
607/610 lift cam
96mm intake
60lb/hr injectors
charged to 12 psi
intercooled
methanol injection
built 4l65e trans
3800 stall tci
all pushin through a stock 10 bolt w/3:73's

can't wait to see the 10 bolt pop.(rear wasn't in the budget so i gotta take it easy on it for a while) YEAH RIGHT

[NJ Torque]

Always suppose to build a car back foward...

How do you like that PP intake?

[S.J.SLEEPER]

nice intake, had to do a little bit of clean up on it with porting bits, besides that i didn't like the gaskets cause they intruded into the area of the spray pattern for the injectors. so i modified them. nice finish and will flow alot of air.

[S.J.SLEEPER]

i had a moser 12bolt out of my 3rd. gen but didn't want to have to use spacers on the wheels. its a daily driver(somewhat)
got tired of the 9 sec. full blown race car(trailer queen) needed sumtin to run around on 37 with again. been a couple years since i been out.

[Jam]

very nice. post up a vid or two =]

[S.J.SLEEPER]

should be goin to the dyno @ the end of next week so i will try to get a dyno vid and a in-car pass down the road vid. put them up as soon as i got em.

[JerzLT1]

metal intake? are you worried about heat soak at all? i know someone else was having a problem with it

[Blackbirdws6]

Looks great and I'm sure it will throw down some badass numbers.

[69BirdX]

metal intake? are you worried about heat soak at all? i know someone else was having a problem with it

with the meth injection he shouldnt have a problem. Sick looking set up, should run run pretty quick with a decent rear.

[LTb1ow]

Woah. Looks like a mess under the hood.

Should be quick for a second or so. :wink:

[S.J.SLEEPER]

heat soak shouldn't be a problem, running a dual nozzle meth setup.
as for woah it looks like a mess........ yeah it does now but its cause i have wiring and stuff hanging out and tools all over the place. look at the ratchet hanging off the one clamp, ha hah ha

gonna baby it out of the hole for a while til i can afford the rear.
my 00ss went 11.60 w/ stock 10bolt launchin @ 4500, i had to change posi unit every 5k, should be alright for a while as long as i dont launch hard on boost.

WHAT YOU GUYS THINK OF THE STRANGE S90?

[Blacdout96]

Sleeper....did you go into NAPA yesterday to buy grommets for your boost gauge?

[S.J.SLEEPER]

i went in the waretown napa yesterday but not for grommets, for some antifreeze and to pay my account bill.

[Blacdout96]

Oh ok, I was about to say. Yeah I had a kid come in who needed rubber grommets for a boost gauge, and a couple other things. and BTW, what kind of rims are those, I like them? where'd you get them?

[S.J.SLEEPER]

Oh ok, I was about to say. Yeah I had a kid come in who needed rubber grommets for a boost gauge, and a couple other things. and BTW, what kind of rims are those, I like them? where'd you get them?

wheels are driftz venoms,17x9
real nice wheel and decent price like $150.00/wheel
liked them cause they were similar to bbs style wheels and you know how all of us loved the gta wheels.
available in gunmetal,satin, and i think polished

[sweetbmxrider]

setup looks awesome. can't wait to see it out on 37 :)

[S.J.SLEEPER]

setup looks awesome. can't wait to see it out on 37 :)

thx, and you definetly will. been a couple years since i been out so i am sure to have it out the moment its tuned and ready to go

[sweetbmxrider]

nice we were just out there last night. it was fun to hang out and see some fast cars.

[98tadriver]

i had a moser 12bolt out of my 3rd. gen but didn't want to have to use spacers on the wheels. its a daily driver(somewhat)
got tired of the 9 sec. full blown race car(trailer queen) needed sumtin to run around on 37 with again. been a couple years since i been out.

i actually have wheel adapters i could sell you. they bolt on. if you wanted to go that route

[S.J.SLEEPER]

i actually have wheel adapters i could sell you. they bolt on. if you wanted to go that route

thx anyway, but i sold the moser 12bolt cause i didn't want to have to buy spacers, and not have my abs and all. i'm gonna probly buy a s90 thats setup with abs provisions.

[jims69camaro]

:drool:

[madness410]

sweet. that intake looks sick.

arrite guys place your bets place your bets...i say 10 bolt lasts 2 weeks..

[S.J.SLEEPER]

the 10 bolt has to last me at least last me a month.
i jst got done spending $2400 on vinyl fence for my yard to keep the kids from going in the street, and the speed density tune is gonna set me back another $700-$800.
then i still got slap insurance back on it.

as long as none of u guys force me to whip your ass on 37 then it should last me a month, otherwise somebodies gonna help push!!!!

[LTb1ow]

Bring it.

[S.J.SLEEPER]

Bring it.

avatar says 14 second club. i think you'll be about 3 sec. behind me.
make it 4 if i come out on the converter.....

[LTb1ow]

What do you have to lose then?

[S.J.SLEEPER]

What do you have to lose then?

my weaka$$ 10 bolt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LTb1ow]

Damn it, you are quick.

[S.J.SLEEPER]

dude, you funny.
its all good man, just f'n with you. i have no clue how fast the car will be. i am guessin low to mid 11's maybe a high 10 if i utilize the converter. built car to be a daily driver than i got a little overboardw/ some things. runnin this engine/charger combo w/ stock suspension and rear.

yeah yeah yeah...... i know..... traction gonna be an issue.
i am used to passing on the right w/ the tires still spinnin

[LTb1ow]

I try. ;)

[HeadlessNorseman]

stole my idea!!

JK but should be sick. Ive wanted to build a 6.0/l92 boosted motor since i read about it in car craft 2 years ago. Need a real job first! Should be pretty sick when finished and definitely unique around here

[S.J.SLEEPER]

stole my idea!!

JK but should be sick. Ive wanted to build a 6.0/l92 boosted motor since i read about it in car craft 2 years ago. Need a real job first! Should be pretty sick when finished and definitely unique around here

yeah, should move out pretty good, i hope to have sum fun with it cause i haven't been out on the streets since i sold my 00ss. if any u guys local and on 37 sure you had seen it a couple years ago.
it was a 00 black ss w/c5 wheels high rise wing xenon body kit. had heads, cam, & a big shot

pic below of 00ss i had

[NastyEllEssWon]

avatar says 14 second club. i think you'll be about 3 sec. behind me.
make it 4 if i come out on the converter.....




dont let that 14 second club fool you....that beast is going 15s after the next bunch of mods. :lol:

[LTb1ow]

You know it. ;)

I may even make a call out thread too.

[sweetbmxrider]

as for pushing, i do ride a bike. my legs do work 8-)

[S.J.SLEEPER]

WELL A DISASTER HAS COME ABOUT W/ BOSTED LQ9 IN MY Z28.....
took car for a drive sat. nite..
on way home started misfiring, figured plug wire poppd off or somethin. nope !!!!
had her on the lift when i got home checked everything out and all the plugs were fouled.
put all new tr6 plugs in sunday, went to crank and motor locked up.
pulled a plug and fuel poured out
pulled intake pipe off & opened throttle WHAMMMMM.. ABOUT 3 GALLONS OF FUEL POURED OUT AT ME !!!!
WTF WTF WTF...
GUESS WHAT. after doing some diagnosing the f*****N tune that cartek did decided to set my injectors to open when key on. in which filled motor up with fuel.

i am gonna f*****n beat the s*** out of julio or max @ cartek if they don't take care of this.

needless to say i have 1 or so bent connecting rods in engine, now motor has to come back out... wtf
i am gonna try and post a vid of the fuel pouring out of intake.

[SamhainZ28]

I did say I heard bad things about cartek right. That's ******** dude, go there and shove your foot up their asses

[35thls1ss19]

i have never heard anything good about cartek, and the shop is shady.

hope you get everything worked out!

[Whiplash Performance]

Julio is the one who tunes the car there. I would sort of blamed him, most likely what happened was your injectors were maxed out for your setup. (Duty cycle of 85%+) Which will cause an injector to stick open if run a lot while maxed out.

My injectors on a cam only setup were maxed out and they didn't tell me I even asked them if I needed injectors and they said i was fine. When I went to tune my car I saw my injector duty cycle being 110%.

[Blackbirdws6]

Wow thats horrible. Hope the damage is minimal. Keep us posted.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

i have never heard anything good about cartek, and the shop is shady.

hope you get everything worked out!

What he said. That sucks.

[HeadlessNorseman]

good thing it didnt catch fire or anything. sorry to hear tho. Would def have them pay for any damage and redo the tune or just take it elsewhere

[S.J.SLEEPER]

car was rippin too. so f'n pissed off right now.
everytime i hit the pedal car gave me whiplash.
so i got like an hour of drive time on a 6mth. build. wtf.
i feel raped. ahhhh man do you know how hard it was for me to complete this project with a wife 3kids a yard to take care of and my own business to run..... it will take me another 6mths to get it out and back together if they don't do anything for me.

[JW]

This brings me back to Bill's reasons for becoming a tuner back in the day with crappy Cartek!

JW :D

[DaSkinnyGuy]

thats beat

[S.J.SLEEPER]

Julio is the one who tunes the car there. I would sort of blamed him, most likely what happened was your injectors were maxed out for your setup. (Duty cycle of 85%+) Which will cause an injector to stick open if run a lot while maxed out.

My injectors on a cam only setup were maxed out and they didn't tell me I even asked them if I needed injectors and they said i was fine. When I went to tune my car I saw my injector duty cycle being 110%.

pretty sure injector size is good.
runnin a set of fast 60lb. injectors they are rated @ 60lb @ 43 psi car setup with 65psi so i believe they should be somewhere about 72lb/hr.

only runnin 9pounds of boost so i think 48lb or 52lb injectors would have been sufficent. but always thought that u can never have too much injector.
what you think? 10psi lq9 with 60lb. injtrs ?

[NJ Torque]

your more than ample on injector size...

[S.J.SLEEPER]

your more than ample on injector size...

thats what i thought !

fuel can only get into the motor 1 way. through the injectors so if thats the case then it has to be the injectors stuck open. computer tells the injectors to open/close.
pretty damn sure i don't have 8 bad injectors from f.a.s.t. @ $600 that i paid for them.
not like i used some ebay injectors or somethin.

[NJ Torque]

i havent heard anything good from cartek... they have there own little 'crew' but other then that... n g

[FlyingDutchman]

haha bents rods . . . they suck :lol:

[S.J.SLEEPER]

well if & when i get this back together who should i have tune it? any suggestions on the right place to do a big cam boosted meth injected lq9?

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

How about one of the club sponsors to the right?

[BigAls87Z28]

A name from the past...yikes...

[Tru2Chevy]

Same here with nothing good coming from cartek. Foff667 had some "bad luck" with them, taught himself how to tune, started his own tuning business, and now he works for HP Tuners.

Hope they do something for you if it is found to be their fault, but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

- Justin

[NJ Torque]

Your not on a SD tune are you?

[S.J.SLEEPER]

yes its a speed density tune !!!

and just to add to post...... just got the valve covers to make sure a valve wasn't stuck open or somethin crazy like that... so definitly the conrods are bent cause i can only rotate engine about 120 degrees and it locks up.

[FIcamaroRE92]

not the first ******** that came from cartek

[S.J.SLEEPER]

speed density tune bad?
thought was good , cause now the computer reads boost pressure and is able to better map the car as driven.

[NJ Torque]

one of my GNs is SD, other is MAF... each have there ups and downs..

[JL8Jeff]

Lots of bad stories from Cartek. SD should work just as well as MAF tuned. That suks big time. Nothing worse than planning out a build, taking the time to do it and :hitfan:

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[SamhainZ28]

Curt if you need help let me know, I'd be more than willing to help you get the engine back up and running.

[LTb1ow]

Angry phone calls, threats of lawyers, etc.

That friggen blows.

[B4C]

HYDRO-LOCKED!!! That really blows. They would have already have gotten an earfull if that was my car.

[NJ Torque]

no warranty on anything...

[Jersey Mike]

Yeah, it's a scary moment when you sign that paper. All I could think of was, "So if they **** up my car, I'm SOL?" (not talking about cartek specifically).

[B4C]

Yeah, it's a scary moment when you sign that paper. All I could think of was, "So if they **** up my car, I'm SOL?" (not talking about cartek specifically).

Hum the dealer I used to work at wasnt like that. I dont think I would take my car to a place that wouldnt fix it if it was clearly there fault it broke, but then again no one touches my cars except for me.

[S.J.SLEEPER]

i think the worst thing is about this whole ordeal, is that i built this car to have the best of both worlds. lots of power w/ all the bells & wistles (p-steerin & a/c etc..) haha. drove like a stock Z under normal operation & then the minute i put my foot in it, it felt like i was steering a friggin rocket ship.
full street trim
fully street legal
a little bass in the hatch
OH OH OH IT WAS SO NICE......... FOR AN HOUR !!!
i actually felt like i was 15 yrs younger and single again. f***me back to reality i guess.

[sweetbmxrider]

thats ****ed up

i wonder if the a/c had anything to do with the injector issue. i remember you were having issues there.

[JerzLT1]

Did you assemble the engine yourself or did they do everything?

[S.J.SLEEPER]

WAHHOOO lets threaten bodily harm over a car.....it sucks, its life. and he hasnt even confirmed it was their fault......

they did not build the motor.
and just for everybodies peace of mind, it is a 100% not my fault.
either problem w/ their tune telling injectors to open when key on or bad injectors from f.a.s.t. .
not likely to have all bad injectors so you make the call.

by the way only way engine can get fuel in it is via injector opening or ruptured regulator (checked regulator nothing wrong & no fuel in the vaccuum line.) it is a aeromotive boost refenced reg.

[btownws6]

wow very sorry to hear about that i hope it all works out

[JerzLT1]

But since they didn't do all of the work they can claim that you messed something ip and are just trying to pass the buck. I would speak with a lawyer asap

[jims69camaro]

so if you tell the injectors to work beyond their supposed safe workload they can stick open? but you have more injector than you need, so how could that be the culprit? if it does end up that it's the tune that's bad, i would want to know about that; since i am still considered a dinosaur (i use a screwdriver to tune my cars).

[NJ346]

make sure to post this on LS1tech too. The larger the audience, the better chance you have of getting things done.

[V]

i hydrolocked my motor in aug 05.
a gas station had put a diesel mix in my fuel, causing the injectors to stick wide open.
I was spraying raw fuel out my tailpipes, it was that bad.
I replaced #3 injector which i found was wide open constant at key on, then tried starting it, i had missed #1 which had already filled the cylinder.
With the whole crankcase filled with fumes and fuel from washing out the cylinders and all, when it went, it blew out the oil pan and a section of the block...
..could never prove it was the stations fault, but i got my extended warranty to cover it

hopefully you get some answers and it works out in ur favor


BTW my car got back on the road Arpil 2007, and has yet to be tuned because i never trusted the big shops. but i be having it done in sept finally.

[mystictealLT1]

make sure to post this on LS1tech too. The larger the audience, the better chance you have of getting things done.

+1 but be prepared cartek guys will come out of the woodwork on ls1tech

[S.J.SLEEPER]

i will get to the route of the problem tonite before i start posting/bashing the crap out of cartek. they have done very well for me & my buddies in the past.
either have a bad injector or 2 or have a ground issue since the injectors work off switching ground.(not likely cause real clean harness & install)

[S.J.SLEEPER]

well guys got to the root of the problem...........

boost reference fuel pressure reg. bladder ruptured allowing fuel to fill the intake via boost ref. port. line to intake.

100% not my fault or carteks

100% proffesional products fault.
contacted proprod and i have to email pics and explaination of how this happened & what is bad. said they will do there best to rectify the problem.

they will be handing me a check for a couple grand is how theyre gonna rectify the f*****n problem !
spent way to many hours research and build of this engine to take it in the @ss over a $200 part that i thought was so called ..."professional" !!!!!!!!

[S.J.SLEEPER]

lot of things i'd like to do to those guys right this moment.
$8000 motor f*****n junk now !!!! 6mths of my life wasted not driving my prized possession. f*** f*** f***.

[LTb1ow]

Its just a car.

[S.J.SLEEPER]

Its just a car.

if i could hit you throught the computer i would !!!

i'm married w/ 3 kids and have my own constructon business. do you have any clue how hard it was for me to make time to get this car together. hour or 2 a nite a couple all nighters here an there. f*** man that was cold.

but yes it is only a car, but it was a lot of my blood sweat tears and lack of sleep to only be sabitaged by a $200 part

[sweetbmxrider]

well at least you figured out what the **** happened. hope they make some good on your loss

[Kat]

I feel your pain. I have about err 10k or so in the vert's motor now. Just to have it ****ed up by a 6 dollar oil filter sucking in on itself. When I really needed the 3 dollar one from walmart.

Good luck tho dood. If ya need help let us know. There are a few good people on here that dont mind working.

As for tuning, JS Performance or any of the site sponsors are good and will work with ya :)

[S.J.SLEEPER]

I feel your pain. I have about err 10k or so in the vert's motor now. Just to have it ****ed up by a 6 dollar oil filter sucking in on itself. When I really needed the 3 dollar one from walmart.

Good luck tho dood. If ya need help let us know. There are a few good people on here that dont mind working.

As for tuning, JS Performance or any of the site sponsors are good and will work with ya :)

thanks & sorry to here bout the filter issue. i won't use walmart/fram/stp etc.... when it comes to gaskets / filters i only use gm o.e....
a couple years back there was issues with filter w/ no check valve in them that caused lot of engine probs.

i would have used one of the sponsors for tuning but i am one of those guys that will stick with what has worked best for me , once i get f****d never use again.
had good experience w/ over 5 cars via carteks tuning, didn;t want to chance someone else.

CARTEK did say they would pt car back on dyno and retune for free ($750 normally sd tune) since they felt bad that i had some issues w/ car. Wasn't their fault at all so thats pretty stand up of them in my book.

[Blackbirdws6]

Glad you found the problem and hopefully you will get some help for your troubles. Sure its just a car but I value my time and its hard to come by sometimes. I would be furious if this happened to me and absolutely bummed. Hope it goes together easier this time around.

[Kat]

Thats cool they are going to do that for ya!..

Heh the oil filter I used was a Pure One Purolator.. Go figure I need the Wix racing one... ha. Lesson learned.

[MyFirstZ]

another reason to add to my fear of forcing feeding a naturally aspirated car.

reason #13467456 after market part failure.

its always good to figure out what the problem is though. Hope everything works out for ya.

if it makes you feel better your car would have walked all over most of us for that one hour

[PolarBear]

I saw my injector duty cycle being 110%.

Thats impossible...... :rollseye:

[S.J.SLEEPER]

part failure........ #1 reason for angry mechanics.
i got out of the industry cause i lost my love for building cars being that was all i did all day.
and then getting the passion back for it, then something like this happens.... man, brings ya down real quick !!!

you know in lampoons christmas vacation when chevy chase goes off on his rant after getting his jelly of the month club certificate .... no good,slimy,fat,fartsmellin,cheap etc.etc. etc....

i'm that friggin pissed off !!!

[PolarBear]

100% not my fault or carteks

I thought it was from the other post? Nice to jump to contusions and blame them.


they will be handing me a check for a couple grand is how theyre gonna rectify the f*****n problem !


Good luck with that :rofl:

[S.J.SLEEPER]

see post CARTEK IN THE CLEAR....
found a ruptured diafram in the boost reference fuel pressure reg.
was pushin fuel into intake vai the boost port line to manifold

$200 part f*****d me !!! $8000 motor junk now.

[MyFirstZ]

i don't get that angry when i get a comeback for bad parts, i just get annoyed i gotta do that **** again. Mainly cause i lose nothing just time, nice being corp. owned sometimes.

But i know what you are saying when its your own car. Luckily i have not experienced this yet. I know i will. Big reason why i am hesitant about getting into internals of my car since its a DD .

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

I thought it was from the other post? Nice to jump to contusions and blame them.

Maybe he jumped to a contusion, which led to him jumping to a conclusion :wink:

[S.J.SLEEPER]

But i know what you are saying when its your own car. Luckily i have not experienced this yet. I know i will. Big reason why i am hesitant about getting into internals of my car since its a DD .

do the bolts on and leave the rest stock.
do yourself a favor and save yourself now..... oh wait , you own a fbody & your already addicted to the hp

[FlyingDutchman]

my motor hyrdo-locked within 200miles of owning it, turned the key one morning (like a week after taking it home) one loud bang and it was over, bad gasket let coolant in and rod failed

needless to say that was 3000$ after all was said and done

[V]

i would stay away from all Professional Products parts at all costs.
They just are poor quality and you're just asking for a bad result.
Sure an intake wont "break" really but still

When i first rebuilt my SS, I needed a balancer so i decided to go aftermarket and get an SFI one. Professional Products one was like 150 vs. Fluidampnr at like 400.
Well the second day i had the car out i think, i heard a loud bang while coming off the highway and then screeching, pulled in a parking lot, pushed the clutch in and the motor stalled out. I popped the hood to see i had torn the hub of the balancer away from the outer ring. The rubber layer holding the 2 together was wasted. Luckily it has just shifted back scuffing up the front cover and still held 2 ribs of the belt still on. I got it towed home and when i ordered a new one, i went for the 400 dollar one this time. I called professional products and they seemed like they would help, but i just didnt have the patience for them and didnt bother since no real damage was done to anything else. i just learned to stay away from them.

and trust me i know what you mean by all the time spent on the car etc. having a car you love down for 6 months sucks. Mine was down for 21 months.... that sucked.

[NJ Torque]

PP seems like ****... even on LS1Tech, theyre intakes have not a good review...

[nj85z28]

i would stay away from all Professional Products parts at all costs.
They just are poor quality and you're just asking for a bad result.
Sure an intake wont "break" really but still

When i first rebuilt my SS, I needed a balancer so i decided to go aftermarket and get an SFI one. Professional Products one was like 150 vs. Fluidampnr at like 400.
Well the second day i had the car out i think, i heard a loud bang while coming off the highway and then screeching, pulled in a parking lot, pushed the clutch in and the motor stalled out. I popped the hood to see i had torn the hub of the balancer away from the outer ring. The rubber layer holding the 2 together was wasted. Luckily it has just shifted back scuffing up the front cover and still held 2 ribs of the belt still on. I got it towed home and when i ordered a new one, i went for the 400 dollar one this time. I called professional products and they seemed like they would help, but i just didnt have the patience for them and didnt bother since no real damage was done to anything else. i just learned to stay away from them.

and trust me i know what you mean by all the time spent on the car etc. having a car you love down for 6 months sucks. Mine was down for 21 months.... that sucked.

i sort of remember reading about that a long time ago

[WildBillyT]

i sort of remember reading about that a long time ago

PP seems like ****... even on LS1Tech, theyre intakes have not a good review...

i would stay away from all Professional Products parts at all costs.
They just are poor quality and you're just asking for a bad result.
Sure an intake wont "break" really but still

When i first rebuilt my SS, I needed a balancer so i decided to go aftermarket and get an SFI one. Professional Products one was like 150 vs. Fluidampnr at like 400.
Well the second day i had the car out i think, i heard a loud bang while coming off the highway and then screeching, pulled in a parking lot, pushed the clutch in and the motor stalled out. I popped the hood to see i had torn the hub of the balancer away from the outer ring. The rubber layer holding the 2 together was wasted. Luckily it has just shifted back scuffing up the front cover and still held 2 ribs of the belt still on. I got it towed home and when i ordered a new one, i went for the 400 dollar one this time. I called professional products and they seemed like they would help, but i just didnt have the patience for them and didnt bother since no real damage was done to anything else. i just learned to stay away from them.

and trust me i know what you mean by all the time spent on the car etc. having a car you love down for 6 months sucks. Mine was down for 21 months.... that sucked.

I wasn't really going to go into this, but since it came up:

Professional Products has never had a solid rep from what I've seen. When I first heard the name they were big into ripping off Edelbrock's manifolds and selling them at a lower price (since they don't have R+D costs to cover). They sell cheap imported knock offs that people buy because of price point. You hear tons of stories about bad imported products but they still sell very well.

SJ, I hope you get your money back. This is a ****** raw deal and I hate reading about it. Don't hesitate to go to the state attorney general about it. I've had to do that before and it helped my cause. Going to be a tough fight getting money from an already slimy company.

[btownws6]

damn well at least cartek is willing to help ya with the retune and i'm sorry to hear about that and i know the feeling ive had some many plans for my car now that i make enough money but with my daughter and work it's hard to even change the oil so i feel your pain man my 89 has been sitting for 2 years now

[jims69camaro]

see post CARTEK IN THE CLEAR....
found a ruptured diafram in the boost reference fuel pressure reg.
was pushin fuel into intake vai the boost port line to manifold

$200 part f*****d me !!! $8000 motor junk now.

please tell me this was a new part and not something you recycled from another build. at least if it was new you could go after the manufacturer for the motor, since their part failed due to manufacturing defect (or something). they will probably claim limited liability, but you can at least salvage part of what you've got in the motor.

it sounds like you know what you are doing, so i wouldn't think you did something wrong and created this situation. of course, i have been wrong before.

[S.J.SLEEPER]

please tell me this was a new part and not something you recycled from another build. at least if it was new you could go after the manufacturer for the motor, since their part failed due to manufacturing defect (or something). they will probably claim limited liability, but you can at least salvage part of what you've got in the motor.

it sounds like you know what you are doing, so i wouldn't think you did something wrong and created this situation. of course, i have been wrong before.


nope... not used or recycled part. it was brand new. i ordered it cause it was the one that professional products recommend to use with their intak/f-rail system. its in the friggin instructions!!!!! so in my eyes they are screwed & are going to have to pay cause i ordered the regulator that they recommended & sell for this application.. if i had used a aeromotive one like i was gonna purchase this would have never happened !

[S.J.SLEEPER]

lesson learned though, doesn't matter who's boost referenced fpr you use.... i will from now on install a 1way check valve in the boost ref. line to intake, so that if this does happen again, fuel will not enter the engine. (it might burst the line & catch the car on fire, but least the insurance will pay for that one !!!!)

[Mike]

im thinking the best they will do is replace their part........no way they are funding your motor

[mc73nova]

That really sucks. They probably wont do much for you because it is a high performance build but that is ********.

[S.J.SLEEPER]

That really sucks. They probably wont do much for you because it is a high performance build but that is ********.

the only thing going for me is that i used their recommended part with their intake and it is printed on the instructions. so all i can do is hope for the best

[jims69camaro]

im thinking the best they will do is replace their part........no way they are funding your motor

but he has nothing to lose if he does try to get them to reimburse... if he does nothing, then that's exactly what he will end up with.

[camaroracer1992]

one word AEROMOTIVE

[S.J.SLEEPER]

one word AEROMOTIVE

yeah, i know ! always used aeromotive stuff in the past, was on a budget doing this car, and went against my better judgement,not knowing how bad company actually was.

[01blackz28]

This thread should probably get deleted. I have 2 friends in south jersey that deal with cartek both 9 sec cars tuned by them. Actually one is an all motor ls7 that was built by cartek featured in gm hightech. I have heard nothing but good things about them and none of these "horror stories". Many of you guys seem pretty biased. Oh yes it was definately his injector cycle of 85% that blew it up LOL

[S.J.SLEEPER]

HERE IT IS BOYS,
got engine 80% disassembled, got 1 completely broken rod and 1-2 others that are bent/twisted. due to the p.o.s. aftermarket fpr from prof. products.....

[S.J.SLEEPER]

more pics

[LTb1ow]

All that from to much fuel eh.

[S.J.SLEEPER]

more pics....

[LTb1ow]

Well hell, this is JUST an engine. ;)

Sucks man....

[S.J.SLEEPER]

more pics....

and this is what it looked like only 2 days ago

[S.J.SLEEPER]

All that from to much fuel eh.

fpr ruptured and filled intake with fuel, when i went to start it on sunday turned over and locked up, broke the rod,
can't compress a cylinder full of fuel !!!

[LTb1ow]

Its like a lego kit... follow the instructions and it works out in the end.

[69BirdX]

that really sucks but you can tell them rods were stong by the way it broke.....

[BonzoHansen]

This thread should probably get deleted. I have 2 friends in south jersey that deal with cartek both 9 sec cars tuned by them. Actually one is an all motor ls7 that was built by cartek featured in gm hightech. I have heard nothing but good things about them and none of these "horror stories". Many of you guys seem pretty biased. Oh yes it was definately his injector cycle of 85% that blew it up LOL

Why? First of all who cares, second of all it is clear to anyone who can read above a 5th grade level that cartek did absolutely nothing wrong here, and finally some of the comments are a really good way to learn who not to take tech advice from. Besides I have heard heard good and very bad about them. So it stands.

4 threads on the same engine project all on the same page was irritating, so now they are one long thread

[Mike]

This thread should probably get deleted. I have 2 friends in south jersey that deal with cartek both 9 sec cars tuned by them. Actually one is an all motor ls7 that was built by cartek featured in gm hightech. I have heard nothing but good things about them and none of these "horror stories". Many of you guys seem pretty biased. Oh yes it was definately his injector cycle of 85% that blew it up LOL

miss the post where he said it wasnt their fault? and if you have NEVER seen a horror story about cartec, your the biased one

[V]

this is a pic of my stock ls1 rod that snapped when mine hydrolocked. you can see it tried from the way it first twisted before it snapped. pretty strong parts all-in-all even stock.

The rod bolts are said to be the weaker parts(hence why i have arp ones now)

[S.J.SLEEPER]

thank you to however combined the threads, i didn't know how to delete the threads and and just post 1 new one w/ pics, thanks again. if someone can tell me how to delet threads that would be great.

[Mike]

thank you to however combined the threads, i didn't know how to delete the threads and and just post 1 new one w/ pics, thanks again. if someone can tell me how to delet threads that would be great.

you cant delete threads.

[NastyEllEssWon]

roots style blower is the way to go. self sealed lubricating system and power on demand....just keep the boost gauge under 0 and youll get regular gas mileage

[S.J.SLEEPER]

turbo,blower,charger doesn't matter. with a boosted setup 99% are ran with a boost reference fpr. so therefore go turbo and use the same fpr i did and you will have a problem.
guys that are charged and say they wish they went turbo ususally say that cause turbos make more powerbut they fail to mention reason they didn't do a turbo setup is cause of the PRICE DIFFERENCE!!! bolt on turbo kits roughly same price as charger kits but make around the dame power. if you really want a turbo for hp you are gonna spend ALOT OF MONEY FOR THE RIGHT PARTS!

[S.J.SLEEPER]

by the way, got a call from professional products today,,,,,,HOLY S*** THEY WANT ME TO SEND OVER A ESTIMATE TO CUT A CHECK !!!!!! I DON'T F*****N BELIEVE IT. I'M NOT GONNA HOLD MY BREATH. but the guy said they don't want any bad feelings or bad rep out there so they would like to keep this nice,quiet, and keep their customer happy !!!!! DAMN... I STILL DON"T BELIEVE IT.

[firebirdcrazy]

by the way, got a call from professional products today,,,,,,HOLY S*** THEY WANT ME TO SEND OVER A ESTIMATE TO CUT A CHECK !!!!!! I DON'T F*****N BELIEVE IT. I'M NOT GONNA HOLD MY BREATH. but the guy said they don't want any bad feelings or bad rep out there so they would like to keep this nice,quiet, and keep their customer happy !!!!! DAMN... I STILL DON"T BELIEVE IT.

AWESOME!!!

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by the way, got a call from professional products today,,,,,,HOLY S*** THEY WANT ME TO SEND OVER A ESTIMATE TO CUT A CHECK !!!!!! I DON'T F*****N BELIEVE IT. I'M NOT GONNA HOLD MY BREATH. but the guy said they don't want any bad feelings or bad rep out there so they would like to keep this nice,quiet, and keep their customer happy !!!!! DAMN... I STILL DON"T BELIEVE IT.

really? thats incredible news, its good to see that some companies still care about their customers and their reputation. I look forward to seeing how this plays out.

[Saitin]

by the way, got a call from professional products today,,,,,,HOLY S*** THEY WANT ME TO SEND OVER A ESTIMATE TO CUT A CHECK !!!!!! I DON'T F*****N BELIEVE IT. I'M NOT GONNA HOLD MY BREATH. but the guy said they don't want any bad feelings or bad rep out there so they would like to keep this nice,quiet, and keep their customer happy !!!!! DAMN... I STILL DON"T BELIEVE IT.

Nice are you going to get it quoted with or with out labor hahahaha.

[FlyingDutchman]

wait, that was a boosted ls7 right? :wink:

[S.J.SLEEPER]

Nice are you going to get it quoted with or with out labor hahahaha.

wait, that was a boosted ls7 right? :wink:

with labor of course & machine shop charges too....

ls7? yeah i think it was:drool:

[Saitin]

& machine shop charges too....


Oh yeah it was bored out and stroked as well what was it a 383?

[S.J.SLEEPER]

Oh yeah it was bored out and stroked as well what was it a 383?

an ls7 is a 427

[NastyEllEssWon]

an ls7 is a 427




i thought you had an lq9???

[NastyEllEssWon]

with labor of course & machine shop charges too....

ls7? yeah i think it was:drool:





sooooooo i dont understand. if this is a boosted lq9 saga....lq9 is an iron 6.0...ls7 is an aluminum 427.....make your choice...which one was it?? or is this your attempt at a discreet beat around the bush that you plan on trying to tell PP that your motor was a ls7?????


either way....kinda shady

[Knipps]

I think it was a joke dude, someone "suggested" it was an ls7 that failed bc of their product

[S.J.SLEEPER]

YEAH, someone suggested it was a ls7 that pp fpr broke, obviously to get them to pay more.
i'm not gonna push it. repair bill is what it is.
yes it is a lq9 iron block

i'm gonna take what i get and just be happy that they were willing to reimburse for the damages, lot co.'s would tell you to go pound salt !

[V]

the buddy list had 10,000 posts


and glad to hear PP are claiming to help u out, like i said in my case they offered too, 150 for their part that failed, but i didnt pursue it... so no telling if the would have REALLY came through.