View Full Version : Man Beaten To Death On Video In 1984.....Should They Prosecute Now?? **NSFW GRAPHIC**
NastyEllEssWon
08-21-2009, 09:43 PM
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e55_1250787987
Mentally Challenged man seriously beaten, possibly to death.
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In a shocking discovery, this brutal and graphic video has just not been posted to the internet. It is a video supposedly taken from December of 1984 in which Bobby J Blythe, a karate "master instructs his student to brutally beat an individual who is seriously mentally ill. This man was later discovered dead in a dumpster and Blythe was never charged.
The instructor Bobby J Blythe had this to say about the incident:
'This dummy was in my shopping center while I was on a Bodyguard Job in Washington, DC. This guy was in the Pizza Hut eating pizza off the plates of others and the Pizza Hut Manager ran him out with a pistol. Later the very same day, police officers were called to remove him from a nearby pharmacy after having been caught reaching into customer's purses. A short time after that, he visited a Napa Auto Parts store next to my Karate Dojo and told the management he planned on teaching in that Dojo and that Jesus taught him.
'The Napa guys told him he was confused (their polite way of warning the man against such action), but not wanting to miss a show, they told the man they would close early just to watch and that he must not know the owner, which is nobody to play with.. Needless to say, the police pulled him out of the dumpster behind my Karate Dojo where he was neatly placed. Semper Fi to all my Marine brothers. The karate student in the white is also a Marine Sgt. and a brand new Black Belt. Never get stupid with a Marine, you could get jacked up and have your clock stopped.'"
That's all I know.
I don't know what to say to this. Theres an apparent internet uproar that since theres no statute of limitations on murder that they are going to try to find this man and prosecute him.
What are your thoughts on the situation....even if you didnt watch the movie.....should they be able to prosecute murder 20 years later???
BonzoHansen
08-21-2009, 09:49 PM
Yes. Get him.
transmaro93
08-21-2009, 09:54 PM
dude... i think people should watch the movie if they are going to make a judgement on that... and hellyes they should prosecute... that was horrific what they did to that guy... and he was retarded i mean he probably didnt know what he was doing.... sick sick people...not one doubt in my mind that the people responsible should go to jail... nothing in this world gives one man the right to take another mans life unless its in pure self defense... and a last resort at that... what a bad name that puts on marines too... i know a couple of marines... doug being one that im sure wouldnt approve of this... what an *******... BTW this is the first im seeing this... dont know about the uproar
LTb1ow
08-21-2009, 10:09 PM
Stupid people in groups should be illegal. And wow.
Video taping yourself killing someone... plain wow.
nj85z28
08-21-2009, 10:38 PM
the so called marine looked pretty sluggish against the "bum"
HeadlessNorseman
08-21-2009, 10:38 PM
yeah thats horrible. kicking someone when their down is just never right either, especially when they are clearly already beat and have no game left...but thats a different story altogether. Def prosecute....killing is killing
LTb1ow
08-21-2009, 10:39 PM
yeah thats horrible. kicking someone when their down is just never right either, especially when they are clearly already beat and have no game left...but thats a different story altogether. Def prosecute....killing is killing
So we should prosecute all war veterans?
HeadlessNorseman
08-21-2009, 10:42 PM
So we should prosecute all war veterans?
totally off the point...i mean killing is killing regardless of time/motive/any other reason
HeadlessNorseman
08-21-2009, 10:56 PM
Also from a totally other point of view if that guy is a black belt and a marine that instructor should be ashamed of himself. that guy can not fight one bit. I actually thought the dude in the Gi was the victim at first...
nj85z28
08-21-2009, 11:04 PM
Also from a totally other point of view if that guy is a black belt and a marine that instructor should be ashamed of himself. that guy can not fight one bit. I actually thought the dude in the Gi was the victim at first...
my thoughts exactly
grandkodiak
08-21-2009, 11:09 PM
yea... that wasnt a match it was im gunna kick your ass, pretty funny... but once someones knocked out, thats the end of the ass kicking! throw in a shot to the stomach for the glory final **** you, but you dont stomp someone in the neck and head... again...and again... and again... even if they ARE conscious.
Knipps
08-21-2009, 11:22 PM
there's no statute of limitations on murder. get the bastard
BigRocsFirebird
08-22-2009, 12:11 AM
wow that's messed up.. that kicking him when he was down was way over doing it. i'd love to kick him in the face a few times. they should get him
NJ Torque
08-22-2009, 12:38 AM
for mentally retarted he was doing well..
Miles
08-22-2009, 12:48 AM
for mentally retarted he was doing well..
just pathetic on the marines account...and yeah he should get it even though it's 20 years later...in fact, they should do the same thing to him as to what he did to the other man.
1972LT1
08-22-2009, 01:17 AM
Where do I begin?...... If they dragged the guy out of the dojo how is there a bloodstain at the height of the doorknob? After the fight you see the blood trail as they haul the victim out of the dojo. It's pretty obvious these guys didn't care @ a human life they just wanted to prove how "badass" they were,so they could feel better @ themselves. Not to sound cruel but this was a skilled/trained fighter vs. a mentaly disturbed /retarted person. Where's the sport in that? If they had called an ambulance for the guy it might have been agrivated assault. But they did nothing. I believe that's called criminally neglient homocide.
1972LT1
08-22-2009, 01:26 AM
It never fails to surprise me how F#@king stupid people are,videotaping themselves as they commit crimes.And somewhere there will be a lawyer that gets them off on a BS technicallity. The gene pool needs a good dose of chlorine!!!!!!!!!!!
98CamaroSS
08-22-2009, 01:58 AM
They should all get prosecuted. You just don't stand there while someone is getting killed and don't do nothing about it. They're all guilty of hiding the crime, but the guy in white should definately be up for murder and the Dojo master too.
jims69camaro
08-22-2009, 06:09 AM
i understand there is pride in your dojo. if someone came in off the street to challenge, then of course give them the beat down. i don't know if they knew the guy was crackers, but the answer to the question "who was your master?" was given as "jesus christ" should have provided them with enough info to just kick the guy out.
they claim that the guy was a nuisance in the shopping center. killing him is not justified by that. nor is killing him because he challenged your dojo. the guy is obviously a few sammiches short of a pic-a-nic, and as was stated before, where is the "SPORT" in that?
most people know better than to walk in off the street and challenge a dojo. this guy didn't. did he deserve to die? no. were they (the "marine" and the dojo owner) guilty of murder? no, but the guy later died from his injuries, so you have to convict on that fact alone. they could have called the police. they could have called an ambulance after the beat down. hell, they could have done something (how many people were in the room?) but no one did anything after he was down and beaten some more.
i say yes, they should be sought and brought to justice.
WildBillyT
08-22-2009, 07:52 AM
He should absolutely be prosecuted. As stated, once he's knocked out the fight is over.
So much for respect and honor in that dojo.
firebirdcrazy
08-22-2009, 08:08 AM
Find him and prosecute. We are suppose to protect those who cant protect themselves even sick individuals. The mere mention of being a Marine and thinks this is justifyable is sadly mistaken and a huge dishonor to the Marine Corps. The man actually did pretty good for himself till he was put on the floor I am just so sad a man lost his life for someones pleasure. SICK!!
Firebird67dude
08-22-2009, 10:58 AM
That is absolutely horible and completely dishonorable. Hell yea the should prosecute. You can see if you pay real close attention to the "marine" his face changed from just being a sick game to something else.
firebirdcrazy
08-22-2009, 12:44 PM
That is absolutely horible and completely dishonorable. Hell yea the should prosecute. You can see if you pay real close attention to the "marine" his face changed from just being a sick game to something else.
Yeah his faced changed because the guy was actually holding his own against him. Couldnt take being made to look bad so gets him to fall and bashes the guys head against some metal stands when he is down. Real Honorable huh? What a punk!! Hope they find him.
CJDZ24_Z28
08-22-2009, 07:31 PM
Everyone in that video should be getting ready to get ass raped in prison. That was horrible especially when the guy was handicapped. This is a sad world we live in.
jims69camaro
08-23-2009, 06:51 AM
Everyone in that video should be getting ready to get ass raped in prison. That was horrible especially when the guy was handicapped. This is a sad world we live in.
there will be a bunch of denial, but the tape is worth its weight in gold for the prosecution. this was 1984 - how much has the world changed since then? not a scintilla.
73fbody
08-23-2009, 01:03 PM
Wow, they should all be so proud of themselves for that. Such big, powerful fighters... NOT!
The so called black belt marine should definitely be hit with murder and everyone there accessories to murder as they were all enablers.
Very sad.
PolarBear
08-23-2009, 10:40 PM
Not to sound cruel but this was a skilled/trained fighter vs.
Honestly I wouldnt even call that dude a black belt. In all honesty almost anyone could injure someone to that point when they are down and "out"
They should all get prosecuted. You just don't stand there while someone is getting killed and don't do nothing about it. They're all guilty of hiding the crime, but the guy in white should definately be up for murder and the Dojo master too.
I think this says it all.
were they (the "marine" and the dojo owner) guilty of murder? no, but the guy later died from his injuries, so you have to convict on that fact alone. they could have called the police. they could have called an ambulance after the beat down. hell, they could have done something (how many people were in the room?) but no one did anything after he was down and beaten some more.
I honestly cant believe you believe this based on your other comments here :shock: The mere fact that the drug him out still living and only wanted to cover it up shows that they KNEW they were guilty and knew what was going to happen to him.
The so called black belt marine should definitely be hit with murder and everyone there accessories to murder as they were all enablers.
:evil: QFT
btownws6
08-24-2009, 10:09 AM
yea this is horrible i say get the bastards and let all rot especially the bystanders i don't care who you are you don't let something like that go on. and placing him in the dumpster just shows they wanted him to suffer i hope they get what they deserve
69BirdX
08-24-2009, 11:18 AM
All I can say is wow. It doesnt take a genious to know if yu kick stomp om a guys neck it will kill him. I hope they rot in jail. Its sad they didnt for the last 20 years
98tadriver
08-24-2009, 11:50 AM
Ill watch the video of that guy jumping off a bridge and rip his face off and will not phase me. but this video really bothers me. you could hear the special ed guy telling the black belt "ok you got me" or something along those lines, letting him know he was done fighting, yet that black belt continued to beat on that poor guy even after he was out cold. they definately shouldve called an ambulance for him even though that man was so brutally beaten, i dont think he couldve survived, even with medical attention. the fact that they drug him outside and put him in a dumpster was a feeble attempt to hide what happened and it's admission of guilt right there. I really hope they all get prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. the black belt and anyone involved should get life behind bars without parole, so they can suffer and have plenty of time to think about what they did
bubba428
08-24-2009, 01:21 PM
hmmm i find this very interesting. I notice how every one is saying prosecute, these are horrible people. however if there was a thread about a guy (baring the possible mental issues) who was repeatedly causing a nuisance, and stealing from people, they're would be a decent amount of people saying that he should have his ass kicked for it. I'm not saying its right what they did, because its not. It's just interesting to notice how people react.
Knipps
08-24-2009, 01:23 PM
nobody would be saying he should be beat to death in some shady alley, but he would need to be dealt with
NastyEllEssWon
08-24-2009, 01:24 PM
well once you kick someones ass and theyre on the ground yelling i quit you should have the respect enough to not stomp on their face a few times.
nuisance doesnt deserve death
WildBillyT
08-24-2009, 01:26 PM
hmmm i find this very interesting. I notice how every one is saying prosecute, these are horrible people. however if there was a thread about a guy (baring the possible mental issues) who was repeatedly causing a nuisance, and stealing from people, they're would be a decent amount of people saying that he should have his ass kicked for it. I'm not saying its right what they did, because its not. It's just interesting to notice how people react.
He should not have his ass kicked, at least by the general populace. He should get dragged away in a squad car.
69BirdX
08-24-2009, 04:58 PM
hmmm i find this very interesting. I notice how every one is saying prosecute, these are horrible people. however if there was a thread about a guy (baring the possible mental issues) who was repeatedly causing a nuisance, and stealing from people, they're would be a decent amount of people saying that he should have his ass kicked for it. I'm not saying its right what they did, because its not. It's just interesting to notice how people react.
you call 911
jims69camaro
08-24-2009, 05:59 PM
I honestly cant believe you believe this based on your other comments here :shock: The mere fact that the drug him out still living and only wanted to cover it up shows that they KNEW they were guilty and knew what was going to happen to him.
true. that part of it, where i said "no", was part of the buildup to the fact that they were, in fact, guilty of murder. if they had just beat the guy down, then no, they would only be guilty of aggravated assault. aggravating factors: the guy fell and he was repeatedly bashed against the wall, kicked and punched. but the guy died from his injuries, so that's when the prosecutor jumps the charge from AA to M2, with the possibility for M1. i think M2, though, as they recklessly endangered the bum and caused his death. well, that's for the prosecutor to decide, anyway. then the jury gets their charge from the judge and he'll explain the intricacies of each level of murder and the fact that they, the jury, have to decide on which level those morons are guilty.
so, if you take it out of context, it looks like i am almost standing up for the "marine" and the dojo owner. i was not, as you can clearly see now.
jims69camaro
08-24-2009, 06:00 PM
hmmm i find this very interesting. I notice how every one is saying prosecute, these are horrible people. however if there was a thread about a guy (baring the possible mental issues) who was repeatedly causing a nuisance...
i used that exact word: nuisance. and don't beat on a guy just because he is a nuisance. call 911. they are trained to handle situations like this.
chemicalstylez
08-25-2009, 06:35 PM
Ugh like that last foot stomp wasn't needed it was already over.... that video was just sad....i hope to god they find that guy and those morons watching. ugh.. just a disgrace.
jims69camaro
08-26-2009, 10:54 AM
just a disgrace.
he disgraced his dojo. he disgraced the marines. anyone (without any type of training) watching that video will think poorly of karate dojos in general and marines in particular. it will have more effect, reaching more people, than they originally thought.
one thing i can't understand: how'd they "find" the video without finding the perpetrator? surely anyone who had that video in their collection was either there that day or knows someone personally who was there that day. i doubt seriously it would be that hard to locate all of the people there that day and charge them all as accessories to murder. tell me that wouldn't get someone's vocal cords humming to say where the "marine" and the dojo owner are... not to mention the people who carried him outside and put him in the dumpster.
98tadriver
08-26-2009, 12:45 PM
hmmm i find this very interesting. I notice how every one is saying prosecute, these are horrible people. however if there was a thread about a guy (baring the possible mental issues) who was repeatedly causing a nuisance, and stealing from people, they're would be a decent amount of people saying that he should have his ass kicked for it. I'm not saying its right what they did, because its not. It's just interesting to notice how people react.
no man deserves to be beaten to death because he's a nuisance. simply call the police and let the authorities handle it
mc73nova
08-26-2009, 10:57 PM
WOW, that is just terrible. You all got it covered but I hope they catch the prick. What kind of people are they to just watch that happen and they kept filming like eveything was cool. Pathetic human beings.
Miles
08-26-2009, 11:08 PM
Sadly this is the world we live in. And it's not getting any better.
12secondv6
08-27-2009, 02:38 PM
I think any person doing this to another is completely unacceptable and should be put to death.
While I can understand that it may be annoying to have someone come into your place of business and insult you, and you want to do something about it..... just call the police. Police are here to protect - there is no reason to become judge, jury and excecutioner.
Or maybe, just do some sparing and in the end, both the individual and the dojo people may reach a better understanding of each other.
People who have recieved some type of formal physical training (military, police, karate, etc) have more responsibility and should be prosecuted even further than the regular joe.
I think we live in a world that is too weak. What occured on the video is COMPLETELY unnacceptable. This person should be killed and it be public. Too many people feel they can get away with anything.... we are too leniant. I'm a big fan of the death penalty.... I want it more public so it prevents people doing stupid ***** like that.
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