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BonzoHansen
10-02-2009, 10:04 PM
Sad story, totally preventable. **** happens, never go under a car on a jack. Just a reminder. Jack stands are a must, car needs to pass the shake test.

http://www.trentonian.com/articles/2009/10/02/news/doc4ac56cdf9b4dd911769627.txt

http://images.townnews.com/trentonian.com/content/articles/2009/10/02/news/doc4ac56cdf9b4dd911769627.jpg

MIDDLETOWN TWP., Pa. — A 27-year-old mechanic and father of three died yesterday when his Jeep Grand Cherokee slid off its jack and crushed his throat.
LTb1ow
10-02-2009, 10:05 PM
Damn... that blows...
transmaro93
10-02-2009, 10:34 PM
damn that's really sad.... but it says hes a mechanic.. professionally??? what kind of professional mechanic doesn't use jack stands???
baddest434
10-02-2009, 10:59 PM
sad story but i would think he would/should have know better!
cdacda13
10-02-2009, 11:09 PM
After having that almost happen to me, I will never go under a car again without stands.

Sad story.
Bcozzi71
10-02-2009, 11:13 PM
yea my jackstands were stolen so i stick some steelies from my old accord under there...

I will never go under without something
NjbadSS
10-02-2009, 11:22 PM
terrible to hear this. I always put something under the car and give it the push test to make sure it doesn't budge. Even after that I periodically do this again to make sure nothing shifted while I was working on the car.
Tsar
10-03-2009, 06:12 AM
Darwinism.
79CamaroDiva
10-03-2009, 08:09 AM
what kind of professional mechanic doesn't use jack stands???

A lot of them... if its something quick, "oh, it won't happen to me" or they don't feel like taking the time to put the stands under.
sweetbmxrider
10-03-2009, 09:19 AM
damn that's really sad.... but it says hes a mechanic.. professionally??? what kind of professional mechanic doesn't use jack stands???

:wavey: guilty
transmaro93
10-03-2009, 10:48 AM
:wavey: guilty

well iv done it when changine tires and stuff like that... but i would never crawl under a car without them... i have evne a second set under my bird right now just to catch it if it does fall...
WildBillyT
10-03-2009, 10:53 AM
Familiarity breeds neglect.
BigAls87Z28
10-03-2009, 11:15 AM
Yeap...you have done it so many times before, nothing has ever happend, so why now?
I dont even trust my jackstands some times. Not that they have ever failed, but I hate being under a car for any longer then 5-10 mins.

Im glad my father got me that oil syphon kit last year for christmas. Now with the Mailbu, I never have to get under the car to change the oil. w00t w00t Ecotec!
BonzoHansen
10-03-2009, 11:16 AM
Then buy better jackstands. I have no fear under my car once it is properly supported. I shake the car before I go under just to make sure it is secure.
//<86TA>\\
10-03-2009, 11:17 AM
i saw the article, it said the car fell on his neck? im curious on what happened. The car seems to still have all 4 wheels on it, so did he have his head under the tire or something like that?

its a real tragedy.
LTb1ow
10-03-2009, 11:54 AM
Yeap...you have done it so many times before, nothing has ever happend, so why now?
I dont even trust my jackstands some times. Not that they have ever failed, but I hate being under a car for any longer then 5-10 mins.

Im glad my father got me that oil syphon kit last year for christmas. Now with the Mailbu, I never have to get under the car to change the oil. w00t w00t Ecotec!

Panzy. :nod:
BigAls87Z28
10-03-2009, 11:55 AM
Im just like that because of the one time it might fail...
Hell, the 87 was on jackstands for 4 years. Didnt budge.
LTb1ow
10-03-2009, 11:58 AM
So buy jackstands that are rated well above what you plan on supporting... stick some bricks in there too, success.
BigAls87Z28
10-03-2009, 12:12 PM
...I guess its all going over your head

I have 3 sets of 3 ton jack stands. I dont care what they are rated at, there is still that ONE chance that something will happen.
that bothers me.
WildBillyT
10-03-2009, 12:13 PM
i saw the article, it said the car fell on his neck? im curious on what happened. The car seems to still have all 4 wheels on it, so did he have his head under the tire or something like that?

its a real tragedy.

Probably jacked it up to get him out from underneath.
jims69camaro
10-03-2009, 02:24 PM
damn that's really sad.... but it says hes a mechanic.. professionally??? what kind of professional mechanic doesn't use jack stands???

“His driveway has somewhat of an incline to it; I think he used the incline of his driveway to get underneath his vehicle,” Cleary said.

“He had a jack, and he took the tire off but didn’t put any blocks or any kind of wedges behind the tires or anything, and the thing fell off the jack.”

Cleary was incredulous.

“He was a mechanic — that’s what I don’t understand. You’d think he would have been a little safer or would have had a place to take it (for proper repairs). It’s a shame, because I’ve been told he’s a stepfather to some of these kids that live over there. And now? Nothing.”

damn, that's a tragedy. accidents happen more often when we take "short cuts" and don't do things safely. i'm willing to bet he had jackstands somewhere in the boxes - it says they were just moving in.
BonzoHansen
10-03-2009, 02:35 PM
...I guess its all going over your head

I have 3 sets of 3 ton jack stands. I dont care what they are rated at, there is still that ONE chance that something will happen.
that bothers me.You scared by lightening too? How about falling space debris? :p

I've seen lifts drop, there is risk everywhere. It's a matter of risk mitigation. Going under a car supported by a jack is high risk, going under one well supported by quality jack stands and has passed a serious shake test is much lower risk. I feel safer under my car when it is properly supported than I do driving on some roads.
jims69camaro
10-03-2009, 02:36 PM
Darwinism.

that's a little over the top. even for you.
Blacdout96
10-03-2009, 02:58 PM
Oh ****!!........ posters of hockey girls in Flyers stuff, do want. :drool:
69BirdX
10-03-2009, 03:10 PM
sad ive done quick things without using them. I try not to i usualy put jack stands under and lower the car on them so there are 3 things the wight of the car sits on
NastyEllEssWon
10-03-2009, 04:18 PM
yeah i saw this on the front side of the paper. i have about 6 stands and 2 jacks in my house...usually while up on stands ill keep the jack still kinda extended in case. i learned my lesson a few months ago when i bought a blackjack low profile jack, i was under the car to measure and see what kind of u joint i had, with no stands under the car just the jack under the rear. long story short the jack starter to slowly let out....really slow but still. scary enough.
//<86TA>\\
10-03-2009, 05:28 PM
i usually have my jackstands under the car, and leave the floor jack up with a little weight on it just for added "oh ****" insurance.
BonzoHansen
10-03-2009, 05:32 PM
i usually have my jackstands under the car, and leave the floor jack up with a little weight on it just for added "oh ****" insurance.

I do that as well.
Tru2Chevy
10-03-2009, 05:48 PM
In the photo there is a hi-lift jack on the side of the Jeep.....I sure hope that's not what he was using, but it looks like it was. Those things are great out on the trail, but using one in place of a floor jack is like playing catch with lawn darts while drinking.

I feel bad for his family though.

- Justin
NastyEllEssWon
10-03-2009, 06:36 PM
In the photo there is a hi-lift jack on the side of the Jeep.....I sure hope that's not what he was using, but it looks like it was. Those things are great out on the trail, but using one in place of a floor jack is like playing catch with lawn darts while drinking.

I feel bad for his family though.

- Justin


i noticed that too but it said that the wheel was off and that one was on...i think the actual accident happened on the other side and that one is the firemans jack???
LTb1ow
10-03-2009, 06:37 PM
i noticed that too but it said that the wheel was off and that one was on...i think the actual accident happened on the other side and that one is the firemans jack???

That would be my guess.
Saitin
10-03-2009, 07:23 PM
why the f@uck is he using a bumper jack to lift the car, I gurantee he is no mechanic at all just a know it all that thought he could work on his car.
Some of you on here better pay attention to this......
LTb1ow
10-03-2009, 07:24 PM
Orly?

Does that mean patio bricks are a bad jack stand?
Tru2Chevy
10-03-2009, 07:29 PM
why the f@uck is he using a bumper jack to lift the car, I gurantee he is no mechanic at all just a know it all that thought he could work on his car.
Some of you on here better pay attention to this......

We're thinking that he prolly wasn't....see the 3 posts above yours.

- Justin
Saitin
10-03-2009, 08:18 PM
We're thinking that he prolly wasn't....see the 3 posts above yours.

- Justin

I was on my phone at the time and didn't read past the first 3 posts.
We have been talking about this through out the day at work.
Tru2Chevy
10-03-2009, 08:39 PM
I was on my phone at the time and didn't read past the first 3 posts.
We have been talking about this through out the day at work.

Gotcha....

As far as him being a mechanic, I believe it. Like others said earlier, he was prolly affected by the security that comes with familiarity. Never had a jack fall on him before, why now? It's not smart thinking, but it happens everyday.

- Justin
maroman88
10-04-2009, 12:42 AM
wen i hafta work under the cars... i always drive the front or rear, which ever im working on, up onto a set of ramps, then jack up which ever side or both and use jackstands.. that way if it should ever fall, the ramps will stop it from crashing down all the way
qwikz28
10-06-2009, 09:11 AM
Yeap...you have done it so many times before, nothing has ever happend, so why now?
I dont even trust my jackstands some times. Not that they have ever failed, but I hate being under a car for any longer then 5-10 mins.

Im glad my father got me that oil syphon kit last year for christmas. Now with the Mailbu, I never have to get under the car to change the oil. w00t w00t Ecotec!

a little delayed, but how do you get to the oil fiilter?
LTb1ow
10-06-2009, 09:14 AM
Al pays a monkey to change that.
PolarBear
10-06-2009, 10:33 AM
a little delayed, but how do you get to the oil fiilter?

On an Ecotec the oil filter is on top. I dont know what he is talking about with the siphon though :shrug:
sweetbmxrider
10-06-2009, 10:34 AM
its an ecotec. the filter is up top, cartridge style.
LTb1ow
10-06-2009, 11:34 AM
On an Ecotec the oil filter is on top. I dont know what he is talking about with the siphon though :shrug:

You pull a vaccum on the dipstick, works well if the dipstick goes to the bottom of the pan.. not sure on cars, but all boats use that method. Easy if the oil is not stone cold, or not HD40. :lol:
Tru2Chevy
10-07-2009, 04:17 PM
You pull a vaccum on the dipstick, works well if the dipstick goes to the bottom of the pan.. not sure on cars, but all boats use that method. Easy if the oil is not stone cold, or not HD40. :lol:

It's always better to do an oil change when the engine is warm.

- Justin
LTb1ow
10-07-2009, 04:24 PM
Yea sorry, relating cars with boats again... hard to run a big diesel up to temp when its on land. ;)
Tru2Chevy
10-07-2009, 04:48 PM
Yea sorry, relating cars with boats again... hard to run a big diesel up to temp when its on land. ;)

So change the oil in the water....what's the worst that could happen? :mrgreen:

- Justin
NastyEllEssWon
10-07-2009, 05:04 PM
So change the oil in the water....what's the worst that could happen? :mrgreen:

- Justin





http://img2.scoop.co.nz/stories/images/0403/b22cf25b18913a0c414f.jpeg


:lol:
LTb1ow
10-07-2009, 05:05 PM
Its much easier and we try to do that as often as we could, but most customers fail to help us out with scheduling.
sweetbmxrider
10-07-2009, 06:26 PM
Its much easier and we try to do that as often as we could, but most customers fail to help us out with scheduling.

welcome to small business :lol: