93-97 Camaro HID kits?

[NjbadSS]

I was wondering how many 93-97 camaro guys had HID lights? I have definitely seen them and they look very sharp, but am having a hard time finding a legit set for my 95. There are ebay sales for them, but no pictures of the lights so I am definitely not ordering them without knowing for sure that they are the correct ones for our cars. If you have them in your camaro, and could let me know where you purchased them, and possibly a picture of them in your car, that would be awesome. Along with this, do they make the bulbs like that for our fog lights? Thanks guys

[Tru2Chevy]

Please, no ebay kits. 99.9% of them are complete garbage.

The only correct way to do an HID swap is to use a retrofit housing that is made for HID bulbs, or to modify your stock housing to accept an HID projector from another vehicle.

- Justin

[NjbadSS]

I kind of figured they were garbage thats why I didn't get involved. My main problem is that I can't seem to find the correct ones for my car. I have seen them several times in the 93-97 cars but either the owners forgot where they bought them from or they purchased the car with them already installed. Thanks for verifying the poor quality of them though Justin!

[njcamarokid]

They have just about banned from internet sales....But the good news is you can get a good kit for pretty cheap now adays. I retrofitted my stock housings and they look good. I've had them for about 4 years now.

They are 9006 bulbs

[sweetbmxrider]

yeah you can do the old sealed beam bulb switch trick. just gotta remove the old bulb thats glued in and throw in the 9006.

you could get hella or piaa projector housings too.

[FlyingDutchman]

They have just about banned from internet sales....But the good news is you can get a good kit for pretty cheap now adays. I retrofitted my stock housings and they look good. I've had them for about 4 years now.

They are 9006 bulbs

pics?

[sweetbmxrider]

http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3435

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/appearance-detailing/710357-lighting-faq.html - post 4 is lt1 camaros

[maroman88]

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/appearance-detailing/710357-lighting-faq.html - post 4 is lt1 camaros

awesome! learned how to do the foglight and highbeam on mod!

[FlyingDutchman]

http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3435

http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/appearance-detailing/710357-lighting-faq.html - post 4 is lt1 camaros

so one of my headlights went out today instead of droppin 50$ on one light i got 2 silverstars 9006 bulbs for 40$ and reused the old housings to make em match, man what a difference compared to stock, thats for the links! 8-)

[sweetbmxrider]

no problem!

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Please, no ebay kits. 99.9% of them are complete garbage.

The only correct way to do an HID swap is to use a retrofit housing that is made for HID bulbs, or to modify your stock housing to accept an HID projector from another vehicle.

- Justin

Buddy has had a set of ebay hids on his camaro for over a year...no problems at all

[BonzoHansen]

They have just about banned from internet sales....But the good news is you can get a good kit for pretty cheap now adays. I retrofitted my stock housings and they look good. I've had them for about 4 years now.

They are 9006 bulbs

9006 is not an HID is it?

[V]

9006 is not the bulb, yet it is the same wiring connections if it were.

[sweetbmxrider]

Buddy has had a set of ebay hids on his camaro for over a year...no problems at all

http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/images/smilies/facepalm.gif well i guess buddy makes it right then

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/images/smilies/facepalm.gif well i guess buddy makes it right then

No wiseass, what im sayin is for the 60 bucks that he spend there holding up great.

[Tru2Chevy]

They have just about banned from internet sales....But the good news is you can get a good kit for pretty cheap now adays. I retrofitted my stock housings and they look good. I've had them for about 4 years now.

They are 9006 bulbs

Can you post up some pics of your retrofit?


Buddy has had a set of ebay hids on his camaro for over a year...no problems at all

No wiseass, what im sayin is for the 60 bucks that he spend there holding up great.

They're still lit - that's great.

Can you take a pic of the beam cutoff and post it up?

- Justin

[gotmudnj]

did anyone see the bmw style light kit on a 3rd gen...i almost mmm...myself their so beautiful. http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/appear...hting-faq.html - on that page a 1989 red 3rd gen...looks amazing. i want to do that now lol.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

They're still lit - that's great.

Can you take a pic of the beam cutoff and post it up?

- Justin

Yea ill get right on it as soon as you get a running fbod :wink: ...dont know anything about his beam cutoff but they look as good as they did the day he installed them.

[Tru2Chevy]

dont know anything about his beam cutoff but they look as good as they did the day he installed them.

I'm sure they still look real pretty, but the beam cutoff is what is important to take note of when you install an HID bulb in a housing that is designed for a halogen. The two types of bulbs distribute light in a completely different way, and about 98 times out of 100 the stock type halogen housing will not provide a proper beam cutoff, thus toss a lot of useless light all over the place. This results in a large amount of glare for other drivers on the road, and less usable light for your buddy to see where he is going at night.

- Justin

[Slo86Bird]

i just realized how much i dont really miss this site. bunch or retards.


ebay hids work fine. i have 3 sets of them and my friend has like 5 sets. only problem is on like 2 sets we got the ballasts u had to turn off and back on to turn on. so we r getting new ones.


if u want cheap hid that work good go to here...

http://ddmtuning.com/


jason if u need any answers on anything just text me. i can answer watever u need answered.

[Slo86Bird]

I'm sure they still look real pretty, but the beam cutoff is what is important to take note of when you install an HID bulb in a housing that is designed for a halogen. The two types of bulbs distribute light in a completely different way, and about 98 times out of 100 the stock type halogen housing will not provide a proper beam cutoff, thus toss a lot of useless light all over the place. This results in a large amount of glare for other drivers on the road, and less usable light for your buddy to see where he is going at night.

- Justin

as this may be somewhat true, i have put hids in many stock housings and they are fine. yes there is a little scatter but there was scatter with the old lights but u dont notice as much cuz they arent as bright.

there is no "halogen housing" and "hid housing" projectors r best for hids but hids r fine in stock housings. i have hids in my 2nd set of diffewrent housings and im in the process of swapping in a projectors because i can. not cuz the light is better, its just cleaner lines and not much scatter. so if u wanna spend 40 on silverstars or 50 on hids and ur in the air, go hid.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

I'm sure they still look real pretty, but the beam cutoff is what is important to take note of when you install an HID bulb in a housing that is designed for a halogen. The two types of bulbs distribute light in a completely different way, and about 98 times out of 100 the stock type halogen housing will not provide a proper beam cutoff, thus toss a lot of useless light all over the place. This results in a large amount of glare for other drivers on the road, and less usable light for your buddy to see where he is going at night.

- Justin

They look good and present no problem to other drivers...He sees fine at night and I see him driving to the shop every morning from a 1/4 mile away (in every season) and there's no glare of any sort....Ebays not half bad if you find the right vendor.

[Tru2Chevy]

there is no "halogen housing" and "hid housing" projectors r best for hids but hids r fine in stock housings. i have hids in my 2nd set of diffewrent housings and im in the process of swapping in a projectors because i can. not cuz the light is better, its just cleaner lines and not much scatter. so if u wanna spend 40 on silverstars or 50 on hids and ur in the air, go hid.

Seriously? There is a difference between a halogen housing and an HID housing - projectors are another story and don't impact the difference between the two. You can have projectors that utilize a halogen bulb, and HIDs that don't use projectors, but you can bet all of the OEM non-projector HIDs are in a housing that was designed around the light patterns of the HID bulb, and not a halogen.

So you are swapping over to projectors for your HIDs to get cleaner lines and reduce "scatter" (aka, glare for oncoming drivers and less usable light for yourself), but you don't expect the lighting to actually improve?

- Justin

[sweetbmxrider]

this thread is full of such bad and dumb info. ER I CAN DO ANYTHING SO IT MAKES IT RIGHT. seriously grow up and listen or stop misleading. you can put up an argument all you want but you are wrong. no one cares that you bought an ebay kit for hids, cool you saved money on **** that won't last awesome i do it too. the issue here is improper application. as justin has clearly defined, certain bulbs require specific cutoffs within their respective housings to correctly and safely distribute light. think of an HID bulb in a non-HID housing as some asshat driving with their highbeams on. no, its not that extreme, its pretty damn close though. look at any car that uses an hid lighting system and take note of the housing. then go **** yourself.

go to the DOT and show them your awesome headlights, then come tell us how they roflz & GTFOUTSSSSS all over your face.

[Slo86Bird]

Seriously? There is a difference between a halogen housing and an HID housing - projectors are another story and don't impact the difference between the two. You can have projectors that utilize a halogen bulb, and HIDs that don't use projectors, but you can bet all of the OEM non-projector HIDs are in a housing that was designed around the light patterns of the HID bulb, and not a halogen.

So you are swapping over to projectors for your HIDs to get cleaner lines and reduce "scatter" (aka, glare for oncoming drivers and less usable light for yourself), but you don't expect the lighting to actually improve?

- Justin



projectors are going in because i like the look of projectors, idc about light output. i never get highbeamed until now since i have really bright foglights on my bullbar. but what im saying is every housing i have put them in, they look fine and dont have that much scatter and noone gets high beamed. so if u put hids in a stock housing you will be fine.

[V]

I have HIDs in my SS, they are bright! and im surprised i dont get highbeamed often, maybe twice a year, or pulled over... but I barely drive the car, much less at night even.

I had them in my Denali while the SS was down, and i got pulled over for them once, cop wasnt too happy, lol.

I just bought 2 sets for my SKY, lowbeams and fogs, but i have factory projector lenses that have a visable cut off line already, so it should work good for me, and look factory.

I would not put HIDs in a factory housing again, yes itll work and most people wont notice, but with a clean line created by the proper housings, it looks like a more professional/factory install. Plus, it IS illegal to put HIDs in a car that didnt come factory with them, and you can get a ticket even if its not "too" bright. I want to put projectors in my SS, but all the current housings ive found are too rice looking, and i havent had the time to custom make a pair yet.

[Tru2Chevy]

I want to put projectors in my SS, but all the current housings ive found are too rice looking, and i havent had the time to custom make a pair yet.

See if you can make these work in a modified stock housing: http://store.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?cPath=25&products_id=101&osCsid=c786533f35647696bd94e5ead5e2fceb

- Justin

[spina74]

Friends of mine own a shop and use to install HID's kits, they got word back in october that unless your car comes from the factory with HID's they are illegal to install. I'm not sure how true that is, but they heard it from their HID dealer. Just a heads up.

[Tru2Chevy]

Friends of mine own a shop and use to install HID's kits, they got word back in october that unless your car comes from the factory with HID's they are illegal to install. I'm not sure how true that is, but they heard it from their HID dealer. Just a heads up.

Yes that is true. Technically any HID retrofit is illegal, and they certainly won't be updated anytime soon if more and more of the cheapie plug-and-play kits are installed.

Illegal or not, a properly retrofitted HID setup will greatly increase your safety during night driving, and will not have any harmful effects on other drivers on the road.

- Justin

[sweetbmxrider]

yeah i was just admiring my beam pattern earlier, its a world of difference. i can't wait to drive that bitch. i'll try and snap some photos one day.

[Tru2Chevy]

yeah i was just admiring my beam pattern earlier, its a world of difference. i can't wait to drive that bitch. i'll try and snap some photos one day.

You should.....does it look as good as this:

Pattern from the FX-R projectors I recommended to Paul above...
http://store.theretrofitsource.com/images/world.jpg

Same setup - high beams
http://store.theretrofitsource.com/images/highbeam.jpg

- Justin

[sweetbmxrider]

:drool: no, but very very close. mine aren't bi-xenon.

[B4C]

Illegal or not, a properly retrofitted HID setup will greatly increase your safety during night driving, and will not have any harmful effects on other drivers on the road.

- Justin

HID's esp the really bright ones or the very blue ones hurt my eyes something terrible and I cant see past them, the only lights that affect my vision really bad at night.

[sweetbmxrider]

same, thats why i went with 4300k (white) and correct lenses.

[Tru2Chevy]

HID's esp the really bright ones or the very blue ones hurt my eyes something terrible and I cant see past them, the only lights that affect my vision really bad at night.

Yes - most of the time this glare is caused by people who slap HIDs into their stock housings and don't do a proper retrofit. The ones that look blue or purple are higher color temperature.

4300k is the closest to natural light, and is preferred for the best vision at night. You can also find 5000k, 6000k, 8000k and up - and as the number rises the light looks blue, and then purple:

http://www.unique-coatings.com/lamin-x/colortempchart.jpg

- Justin

[sweetbmxrider]

below 4300k, say 3000k, would start to look yellow/gold

[Tru2Chevy]

below 4300k, say 3000k, would start to look yellow/gold

Yes, incandescent lighting (regular household bulbs) are approximately 2800k-3000k, and your average halogen headlight is ~3200k.

- Justin

[V]

my SKY will have 6000k low beams and fogs.

justin, ill check them out.

btw, my SS has 12000k bulbs hehe.

[98Gsxr750]

i got a 93 z28 with the hid housing and 4300k lights and its one of the best mods to have done. So much of a difference driving.

[89 Trans Am WS6]

The quality of "Ebay HID" kits are fine. If your spending a grand on a bosch or hella kit, power to you, but its not necessary.

I bought a HID kit for my 93 years ago. It was made by meccatune and the packaging that it came in was almost more badass then the HIDs. Idk when exactly but it was winter time and we had a meet in the ikea parking garage in paramus. I had steelies/blizzaks/ and HIDs haha. I DID buy a conversion housing of course, since at the time the only other method of converting was putting a sealed beam in the oven and plucking the bulb out. Not really my style. The lenses were made by diamond back or some ****, idk. They DO have a projector in them, not as good as ones available now im sure but I never got high beamed because of them. To be honest I never paid this much attention to the "cut off" but I do know that I get a cool rainbow effect at the top of the beam when I turn them on in my garage and I dont light up the sides of buildings when I drive. To me, its fine. Never had any issue with the law or other drivers. The kit was quality (like 200 bucks THEN probably 50 now if the company is still in business), and the install neat. Bi xenon wasnt heard of (at least by me) then so I have no high beams, but dont actually need them. I really installed them for the ride home from island at night.

I also put a set of HIDs in my 93 suburban when I had it. Another ebay kit, this time in brand new stock housings. My 93 had the really small rectangular lights, similar to the later 98ish style trucks. This did not have the sharp line, but It also never got my high beamed or in trouble. It did not light up the buildings around me, only the road. They are still working to this day. Slight modification to the harness was done since that truck also had a western plow on it and the headlight harness from the plow runs off of just one side of the truck and It was causing the HIDs to flicker. If you have a plow setup, you know what I mean.

Put the same set in my friends 91 bronco, factory housing. Drove around the block and took them back out for fear of making air planes crash. This was BAD. Again tho, this was in a giant old ford housing. Currently I am still searching for a projector housing for this truck, and can find them for the older body style and the 92+ style, but not a 91.

Last I put a "Ebay type no name brand" in my gfs 06 Jetta. The Jetta did not have a factory HID option. German car kids are way to scared to experiment with parts that did not come from the motherland. I bought the kit local at a friends shop (Certified Racing, Garfield NJ- Its a honda shop so it probably has no interest for most of you, but they do run some fast cars.) and went on installing. It had nice places to mount the ballasts and then I discovered the NBS Jettas have a special plastic bulb holder. After a few days of searching I found ONE place online that sold a adapter just for this purpose, putting HIDs in the non HID car. The Jetta has a pretty nice reflector setup from the factory and believe it or not produced a AWESOME cutoff line. This may be in that 2% of cars that Justin is talking about that can "get away with it".

No reason to continuously butt heads about this though guys. Use common sense. Are HIDs "better" in a projector? Usually I guess, but then again so are halogens. Its better focused light. Is it nessecary or the only legal way? Well ALL HID retrofits are illegal. You SHOULD fail inspection. I say should because we know how that works in our fine state. Everything is a gray area. Seriously though, use common sense. If your lights are reflecting off satellites in orbit, do us a favor and take them out. If your beef is about how sharp of a line your lights are making..come on now guys, get over it. There are definitely better things to do then bitch about this over, and over, and over again.

I have 315s on the back of my car, on Zr1 wheels. They are not 11 inches wide. They have been there, dragged on, burned out, donuted, and more for years. See my point? Some of you should.

PS! If anyone knows of any projector setups for a 91 bronco, lemme know! If not ill have to make some , or try to, haha.

[Tru2Chevy]

Joe, use the link I posted above for projectors - you'll have to modify the stock housings (or a set of cheap ebay replacement housings, which is often a better choice) but the result should be worth it.

i got a 93 z28 with the hid housing and 4300k lights and its one of the best mods to have done. So much of a difference driving.

What HID housings do you have?

- Justin

[sweetbmxrider]

the hellas like me

http://bellsouthpwp.net/m/u/mulgeary/Hella90/

[Tru2Chevy]

the hellas like me

http://bellsouthpwp.net/m/u/mulgeary/Hella90/

They look like pretty nice pieces.

- Justin