monster clutches

[bobbyn362]

well after are little track outing on the 20th my clutch is completely toast. looking for recommendations. I have been looking at monster clutches and they seem to be the best bang for your buck. any one heard good or bad about them.

[LTb1ow]

Read up on tech on them. They just had a failure with something.

[Tru2Chevy]

Read up on tech on them. They just had a failure with something.

Yes, I believe it was a string of bad pressure plates.

Talk to JS Performance. He can set you up with a nice custom clutch installed for a good price. Both NJSPEEDER and cbrrmike at the rental were running custom clutches from him, pretty sure that JerzLT1 is running one of JS's clutches as well.

- Justin

[bobbyn362]

Yes, I believe it was a string of bad pressure plates.

Talk to JS Performance. He can set you up with a nice custom clutch installed for a good price. Both NJSPEEDER and cbrrmike at the rental were running custom clutches from him, pretty sure that JerzLT1 is running one of JS's clutches as well.

- Justin

i already talked to josh first. he doesnt sell his clutches outright. i take pride in doing all the mechanical work myself. dont really want to pay someone to put it in.

[emolineaux]

i have a monster stage 2 in my car backed up to a 6.0 i cant complain so far. probably about 1000-1500 miles on it so far.

[bobbyn362]

i have a monster stage 2 in my car backed up to a 6.0 i cant complain so far. probably about 1000-1500 miles on it so far.

any track passes? how much power do you have?

[emolineaux]

no track passes yet. i dont normally have time to go down to atco. not sure on my power right now. stock motor was rated at 345hp 380tq i have an underdrive. full exhaust, fast intake 92mm tb ram air and slp lid and a tune. so i could imagine its up a little higher than that. but i only got the stage 2 rated to i think 525 hp/tq. so i know that will hold just fine for what i have. ive abused it a little and havent had a problem. it hooks well all i have to do is get some nice tires so i can take my power to the ground lol.

[JerzLT1]

i already talked to josh first. he doesnt sell his clutches outright. i take pride in doing all the mechanical work myself. dont really want to pay someone to put it in.

just so you know i have a JS clutch in my green car, i understand the pride part but having it done right and it working the way you want is worth it

edit: id put my clutch up against a monster clutch any day :)

[bobbyn362]

just so you know i have a JS clutch in my green car, i understand the pride part but having it done right and it working the way you want is worth it

edit: id put my clutch up against a monster clutch any day :)

i know it would be worth it but i just have a hard time paying someone to work on my car. did you find out if your gonna buy your totaled car back?

[JerzLT1]

already back in my driveway, trying to sell as a whole first

[bobbyn362]

already back in my driveway, trying to sell as a whole first

pm sent

[qwikz28]

I have a JS clutch as well. No track passes yet, but it is holding up well. I like to think with my 3:73 gears and big cam, I am giving it a workout even without going to the track.

[bobbyn362]

I have a JS clutch as well. No track passes yet, but it is holding up well. I like to think with my 3:73 gears and big cam, I am giving it a workout even without going to the track.

if i decide to pay to get one installed im def going to js just would rather do it myself if possible. you still have stuff for sale off that link in your sig. seemed to be a little old

[NJ346]

Aside from the "Just go to JS and support the club" crew...I have a monster clutch. Stage 3, full bolt-on ls1, tick master cylinder, moser 9" with 4.11s. The clutch takes 6K clutch dumps without a problem. I have about 7K miles on mine and about 25 track passes. The "failure" that people have misinformed you about only effected 10-15 clutch orders since the beginning of monster clutches. Go green, you won't be disappointed.

Btw-the monster clutch caused me to snap an axle and tear up a posi in the 10 bolt. So if you have a 10 bolt...beware!

[LTb1ow]

Aside from the "Just go to JS and support the club" crew...I have a monster clutch. Stage 3, full bolt-on ls1, tick master cylinder, moser 9" with 4.11s. The clutch takes 6K clutch dumps without a problem. I have about 7K miles on mine and about 25 track passes. The "failure" that people have misinformed you about only effected 10-15 clutch orders since the beginning of monster clutches. Go green, you won't be disappointed.

Btw-the monster clutch caused me to snap an axle and tear up a posi in the 10 bolt. So if you have a 10 bolt...beware!

And I have a bridge for sale, interested?

:rofl:

[JerzLT1]

Aside from the "Just go to JS and support the club" crew...I have a monster clutch. Stage 3, full bolt-on ls1, tick master cylinder, moser 9" with 4.11s. The clutch takes 6K clutch dumps without a problem. I have about 7K miles on mine and about 25 track passes. The "failure" that people have misinformed you about only effected 10-15 clutch orders since the beginning of monster clutches. Go green, you won't be disappointed.

Btw-the monster clutch caused me to snap an axle and tear up a posi in the 10 bolt. So if you have a 10 bolt...beware!

really? remember when they said they found ALL of the defective pressure plates? yeah my friend still had one and was NEVER CONTACTED. they dont know when the machine started producing them, only when they caught it and stopped. btw a stock clutch can break a 10 bolt, your not exactly breaking new ground with that statement. this isnt "support the club and go to JS" this is my clutch takes 6k clutch dumps with 75 more hp then you

[Mike]

Aside from the "Just go to JS and support the club" crew...I have a monster clutch. Stage 3, full bolt-on ls1, tick master cylinder, moser 9" with 4.11s. The clutch takes 6K clutch dumps without a problem. I have about 7K miles on mine and about 25 track passes. The "failure" that people have misinformed you about only effected 10-15 clutch orders since the beginning of monster clutches. Go green, you won't be disappointed.

Btw-the monster clutch caused me to snap an axle and tear up a posi in the 10 bolt. So if you have a 10 bolt...beware!

funny, monster admitted to at least 28...

[Mike]

really? remember when they said they found ALL of the defective pressure plates? yeah my friend still had one and was NEVER CONTACTED. they dont know when the machine started producing them, only when they caught it and stopped. btw a stock clutch can break a 10 bolt, your not exactly breaking new ground with that statement. this isnt "support the club and go to JS" this is my clutch takes 6k clutch dumps with 75 more hp then you

mine seems ok too :)

[NJ346]

really? remember when they said they found ALL of the defective pressure plates? yeah my friend still had one and was NEVER CONTACTED. they dont know when the machine started producing them, only when they caught it and stopped. btw a stock clutch can break a 10 bolt, your not exactly breaking new ground with that statement. this isnt "support the club and go to JS" this is my clutch takes 6k clutch dumps with 75 more hp then you

lol, all I'm saying is the OP sounds a lot like me in the whole taking pride for my own work sense. I would have been more than happy to give JS my money, but he likes doing things his way, which is great for him. In the end, I ended up saving over $150 compared to a ballpack JS had quoted me, so it's not so much about the savings, it's about going to the track and saying you've built the car with your hands, your tools, and your know how. We'll see how the level 3 compares in a few weeks when the new setup is done.

[j0n]

Avoid monster. To make a long story short, I purchased my Monster stage 3.5 on July 29th... I still don't have a working car.

[JerzLT1]

for j0n to post on the boards you know he has to be disgruntled lol

[bobbyn362]

lol, all I'm saying is the OP sounds a lot like me in the whole taking pride for my own work sense. I would have been more than happy to give JS my money, but he likes doing things his way, which is great for him. In the end, I ended up saving over $150 compared to a ballpack JS had quoted me, so it's not so much about the savings, it's about going to the track and saying you've built the car with your hands, your tools, and your know how. We'll see how the level 3 compares in a few weeks when the new setup is done.

exactly. anyone can take a car to any shop and dump ten grand in it and have a race car. I have about 13,000 into the car right now including when i bought it for 9500. I have done every ounce of work on it myself except the tune. i need a clutch i can put in myself. will hold the power i make right now about 400 to the ground. and that i can slip out of the hole so i dont destroy my rear? and i really dont think either of those clutches are meant to be slipped.

[JW]

for j0n to post on the boards you know he has to be disgruntled lol

Lol I was thinking the same thing!

JW :D

[98tadriver]

i like the ram powergrip HD and the spec stage 3. i used to hate the specs bc i had a few go defective on me a few years back but last november i bought a rebuilt spec stg3 from a friend of mine for the T/A and its been driven by me with a buttload of trackpasses on slicks, drs, and street tires. not to mention all the beatings it takes on the street as well. and yes thats with a 10bolt under it. ive also put a 100shot to it which put down 429/499 to the wheels

[bobbyn362]

i like the ram powergrip HD and the spec stage 3. i used to hate the specs bc i had a few go defective on me a few years back but last november i bought a rebuilt spec stg3 from a friend of mine for the T/A and its been driven by me with a buttload of trackpasses on slicks, drs, and street tires. not to mention all the beatings it takes on the street as well. and yes thats with a 10bolt under it. ive also put a 100shot to it which put down 429/499 to the wheels

monster is getting ready to have a sale. they have had some problems but you will find that with every clutch. but their reviews that are good seem like the people are very satisfied. i think thats what im gonna end up with.

[Kat]

I've have one in my GTO since Jan and about 10k on it now.. Love the friggin thing. I dont treat it nice at all.

[Frosty]

Aside from the "Just go to JS and support the club" crew...

Yup, that's exactly what they were saying :rolleyes: Maybe the guy has a good product that has been through the ringer at the track. Damn them for recommending a solid product from a site sponsor...BASTARDS! :rolleyes: Get over it, we all know you're up Monster's ass....we know you like their clutches. They seem to work well. A few members decided to recommend an alternative product since Monster was/has been having quality control issues(which the numbers are larger than what you quoted).

The only drawback is that he installs them himself and that's it...but I don't blame him. Every Tom, Dick and Harry think they're expert mechanics, I sure as hell wouldn't warranty my product if someone screwed up an install and wasted my time on the phone trying to figure it out. It sucks that he loses business that way but it is what it is.

There's nothing wrong with either product as far as abuse. Every company has issues at times but don't discount someone's product if you have no first hand experience with it.

EDIT: This isn't an attack on your or anything nor am I trying to start ****, just an opinion an observation. It seems like the second his clutches are mention you have a negative attitude or you try to steer people away from them. It's just odd.

[Mike]

maybe if monster only let dealers install the clutches, they would know exactly how many have problems?

[bobbyn362]

every one on here knows js sells a great product. and i can understand him not wanting to sell to the public. And regardless of how many clutches monster sold that were defective, overall most people that have them installed and working properly love them. its time for everyone to start looking at volume of sales verse defective products. someone said 28 is what monster admitted to. 0k lets say that under stated and it was 50. they started selling to the public in summer 2008 i think. how many clutches do you think they have sold? i bet its a lot. every clutch company has good and bad reviews. Except J.S. and i bet josh himself has destroyed one of his own clutches at some point in his career. NO OFFENSE TO ANY ONE BUT YOUR TAKING NATIONAL NUMBERS AND TRYING TO TURN IT INTO A LOCAL BATTLE.

[WildBillyT]

every one on here knows js sells a great product. and i can understand him not wanting to sell to the public. And regardless of how many clutches monster sold that were defective, overall most people that have them installed and working properly love them. its time for everyone to start looking at volume of sales verse defective products. someone said 28 is what monster admitted to. 0k lets say that under stated and it was 50. they started selling to the public in summer 2008 i think. how many clutches do you think they have sold? i bet its a lot. every clutch company has good and bad reviews. Except J.S. and i bet josh himself has destroyed one of his own clutches at some point in his career. NO OFFENSE TO ANY ONE BUT YOUR TAKING NATIONAL NUMBERS AND TRYING TO TURN IT INTO A LOCAL BATTLE.

I believe the number is around 2000.

Regardless of how I feel about LS1 clutches, I'd be wary of buying from a company that has only been selling their product for a little over a year.

[bobbyn362]

I believe the number is around 2000.

Regardless of how I feel about LS1 clutches, I'd be wary of buying from a company that has only been selling their product for a little over a year.

i can agree with that. but every company needs to start from somewhere. if they sold 2000 units and had 50 failures thats only 2 1/2 percent. and a 2 1/2 percent clutch failure with ls1's i personally think is pretty good. maybe we should try and find the failure rates of spec's or center force on ls1's i am willing to bet it will be a lot higher than that. then maybe we will have a reasonable comparison. people trying to compare J.S. to monster is like comparing a rail car to a street car. street cars are mass produced. a rail is built by a handfull of people. monster sells a product and lets the purchaser worry about the install. so their name is riding on the backs of every person who had a monster clutch installed. which adds a tone of variables. J.S. makes and installs his. which removes most of the variables. so he will always have a superior clutch because his expertise is what makes his clutch great

[JW]

I honestly don't see what this long discussions is all about. If you like the Monster Clutch and want to install it yourself, then it seems like a no brainer. I have read a lot of great things about them. I also read the recent failure issues but am very impressed with the fact that they are willing to send out all new ones and back their product on a very large public forum.(though I am curious to hear j0n's issue since he is a friend, maybe I will message him and find out.)

Now all that said, I am not a tranny guy and don't want to think about tearing mine apart. So with my lack of knowledge and trust in myself in that department, I will probably go to JS for one of his clutches and his exp with these setups.

Either way, it's your choice and I am happy for you no matter what option you choose. Good luck, and let us know how the new clutch works out for you!

JW :D

[bobbyn362]

I honestly don't see what this long discussions is all about. If you like the Monster Clutch and want to install it yourself, then it seems like a no brainer. I have read a lot of great things about them. I also read the recent failure issues but am very impressed with the fact that they are willing to send out all new ones and back their product on a very large public forum.(though I am curious to hear j0n's issue since he is a friend, maybe I will message him and find out.)

Now all that said, I am not a tranny guy and don't want to think about tearing mine apart. So with my lack of knowledge and trust in myself in that department, I will probably go to JS for one of his clutches and his exp with these setups.

Either way, it's your choice and I am happy for you no matter what option you choose. Good luck, and let us know how the new clutch works out for you!

JW :D

well when talk to jon get him to post his problem. im ordering it sunday when the sale starts but the car wont be back on the road till march. Like i said before, if i was gonna pay to get it done it J.S. would def be my choice.

[JSPERFORMANCE]

I appreciate everyones positive testimonials..
Every one of our clutches are built to order to the specs provided by the customer and their own preferences. While we may not actually forge the parts here we combine the best products from national manufacturers such as Valeo, Fiber Tuff, Exedy, Sachs, Eaton, and Daikin (just to name a few) to provide our customers with what we feel is the best quailty end product for the money. We may not always be cheapest but I try to keep my prices in the ball park and afforfable. We have based our set ups on years of street, drag and road racing abuse. I have blown up, used and abused plenty of other manufacturers clutches over the years and I feel the product we are putting out is superior in quality to anything available in the mass market..

As far as the "installed only" clause goes there are multiple reasons for this..
1- There are many variables in clutch set up such as bell alignment, release throw, and proper torquing.
2- Initial break in (first 10-15 minutes) is absolutely crucial to the operation and longevity of a clutch. Doing it here allows us to assure it is done properly..
3- Installing it here assures that someone with a 400hp car dosent order himself a clutch for a 600hp car and then complains once it is installed that it "dosent feel right"
4- Proper flywheel surface.. Most of our clutches do not require a new flywheel, if yours is in good shape we can resurface it properly and put it back into service for $55-$65 rather than replacing it for triple that (or more).
5- Lack of a "tech line". We are a smal business, I don't have a secretary and I definately dont have a staff of tech reps to answer install questions. I can't afford to spend 3 hours on the phone explaining proper clutch installation and operation to someone that has never done it before.

What it boils down to is that we are a small shop and come backs and wasted time are espically costly for a place like us so anything I can do to avoid complications keeps us going..

Another added benefit is that when you get your clutch here you are guaranteed to have a perfectly working clutch when you pick your car up.. After all, I am human and I do make mistakes (rare but it could happen). If there is something wrong when I install the clutch here it gets fixed before the car leaves.. You dont have to worry about wasting a weekend installing your new clutch to find out you have to do it all again because of a mistake (on your part or mine).

This is how I choose to provide this particular product, if you feel that a quality clutch built to YOUR specs and installed by a professional with years of experience in custom cars and racing is what you want then JS Performance is definately your shop. If you prefer to have a "off the shelf" clutch and install it yourself then one of the aftermarket clutch manufacturers are definately your best route.. I am sure Hanlon Motorsports or one of the clubs other sponsors can get you a great deal...

Thanks,
Josh
JS Performance

[NJ346]

EDIT: This isn't an attack on your or anything nor am I trying to start ****, just an opinion an observation. It seems like the second his clutches are mention you have a negative attitude or you try to steer people away from them. It's just odd.

No hard feelings here. This is a public forum and people are allowed to express their opinions.

I think the OP feels a lot like I did when I was searching for a clutch, so of coarse I will voice my opinion.

[firebirdcrazy]

This is one very informative thread that stayed professional since I am in the market myself for a new clutch and actually a rebuild for my T56. 133,000 miles on it though its still running fine it has taken its toll on my T56 and the constant hydraulic problems is becoming tiresome. The clutch pedal keeps getting sucked down at high speeds. Its the only problem I have always had with this car since it was new. Josh you do same day jobs? The only problem I have is actually getting to you to leave the car lol. No ride back lol

[bobbyn362]

This is one very informative thread that stayed professional since I am in the market myself for a new clutch and actually a rebuild for my T56. 133,000 miles on it though its still running fine it has taken its toll on my T56 and the constant hydraulic problems is becoming tiresome. The clutch pedal keeps getting sucked down at high speeds. Its the only problem I have always had with this car since it was new. Josh you do same day jobs? The only problem I have is actually getting to you to leave the car lol. No ride back lol

thats what happened to mine on most of my track passes.doesnt really help my e.t. i ordered my monster today:-P

[NJ346]

I'm installing a new monster and slave in my car today while the motor is out :)

[JSPERFORMANCE]

This is one very informative thread that stayed professional since I am in the market myself for a new clutch and actually a rebuild for my T56. 133,000 miles on it though its still running fine it has taken its toll on my T56 and the constant hydraulic problems is becoming tiresome. The clutch pedal keeps getting sucked down at high speeds. Its the only problem I have always had with this car since it was new. Josh you do same day jobs? The only problem I have is actually getting to you to leave the car lol. No ride back lol

On average a clutch will take 1-2 days to do. Also, if you want to rebuild your trans it will take considerably longer..

[qwikz28]

This is one very informative thread that stayed professional since I am in the market myself for a new clutch and actually a rebuild for my T56. 133,000 miles on it though its still running fine it has taken its toll on my T56 and the constant hydraulic problems is becoming tiresome. The clutch pedal keeps getting sucked down at high speeds. Its the only problem I have always had with this car since it was new. Josh you do same day jobs? The only problem I have is actually getting to you to leave the car lol. No ride back lol

Actually I had the same problem. The camaro at the time was my daily and I was then commuting to Rutgers. I ended up driving down to JS Performance with my bike in my trunk, leaving the car there, and riding my bike over to the train station. I had to transfer a few times but I ultimately got back to Rutgers (where my lady friend gave me rides to and from school until my car was completed). I reversed the process to get back. That was when my rear end was acting up.

About a month later, my clutch went (good time to get the trans rebuilt right?). This time, closer to finals, Tim (NJSpeeder) gave me a ride from Hamilton train station, over the river to JS, and vice versa when the car was ready. This saved me a couple hours of my day as the train ride was only 20 minutes or so and the ride to JS was about 15 from there. It didn't take nearly as long as Josh claimed it would. If I recall correctly, my car was finished in less than a week.

This may sound burdensome, but when you find a good shop, you stick with him. I've had a few bad experiences with other shops and even now that I'm no longer at Rutgers, I still plan on having him fix my car when it goes wrong. Maybe a taxi cab or you know a friend down there? I've had a bad experience with an off-the-shelf clutch and am very very happy with my JS clutch. I usually offer anyone who asks about it to drive the car and see.

[JSPERFORMANCE]

Thanks Jake, while I can not expect everyone to travel as far or go through what you do to get your car here I appreciate your patronage very much. I always try to make sure my customers get a fair shake and it is good to see it when someone appreciates our services.

[chknhwk01]

Thanks Jake, while I can not expect everyone to travel as far or go through what you do to get your car here I appreciate your patronage very much. I always try to make sure my customers get a fair shake and it is good to see it when someone appreciates our services.

I, BIN WITH ''JOSH;; FOR A FEW YEARSS, HE DID A LOT OF WORK,
ON MY CHKNHWK... WS6 T/A.. HIS WORK IS ''GREATTT'' :nod:
AND I KNEW MY CAR WAS IN GOOD ''HANDSS''8-) I WAS VERY HAPPY;
WITH J/S PERFORMACE,, WENT I FOUND HIM// JOSH.. PEACE OF MINE..
THE MAN THAT DOZZ IT ALLLLLLL....8-)

[JSPERFORMANCE]

Thanks Joe, you know its always a pleasure hanging with the CHKNHWK!!

[DaSkinnyGuy]

I love my monster stage 2 clutch.

[ThoR294]

i have about 10k miles on my spec stage 2 clutch, installed it myself... had over a dozen passes at the strip... no issues

[Pampered-Z]

How much HP are you making? I know you said bang for the buck, but have you looked at the Textrali "Ausie" clutch? alllot of the guy I know which modded engines that race like this clutch allot.

[JerzLT1]

i have ditched the T56 since this thread and when it was pulled out the JSPerformance clutch looked brand new (you can ask anyone, im not nice to my cars) :) the new owner was happy with its condition, im not sure if he got it installed yet