Motor Swap Progress

[NJ346]

Over the next few days I will be tearing apart a perfectly good working LS powered camaro to accomplish one goal: go faster! I will be swapping in a motor that has 80K miles while taking the 185K mile one out. Since the engine is sitting on a stand, I thought it'd be a good time to add some goodies to it. I started tearing it down tonight, and here is how far I got.

Stock longblock:
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u168/NJNETSFAN515/motorswap001.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u168/NJNETSFAN515/motorswap002.jpg

Now a shortblock:
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u168/NJNETSFAN515/motorswap003.jpg

Some new valvetrain parts:-P
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u168/NJNETSFAN515/motorswap004.jpg

Over the next few days I will be taking pictures and posting progress of the build. My plans are to have the motor back together by thursday night, and work from friday-Sun to get the car back up and running. Check the classifieds section for cheap LS1 parts!

[GrandmasterCow]

Nice !! Good Luck !

[sweetbmxrider]

niiiice vin!

[NJ346]

haha i sure hope i make more than minimum wage after being at the same job for almost 2.5 years lol. thanks for all of the words of encouragement guys! :)

[BigRocsFirebird]

looks like fun. good luck with the project

[69BirdX]

thats what i need to do.........good luck

[KirkEvil]

What cam did you go with?

[Zero4488]

EPIC FAILURE....

Vin...call me when you need help....

[NJ346]

What cam did you go with?

A texas speed spec'd cam....pretty small. Just looking for something to make me go a little faster and still get good gas mileage.

[WildBillyT]

Looks great, Vinnie. Post some more progress shots when you get a chance.

[KirkEvil]

A texas speed spec'd cam....pretty small. Just looking for something to make me go a little faster and still get good gas mileage.

...I guess you dont want to give the specs?

[sweetbmxrider]

street racers don't give specs :shifty:

[LTb1ow]

Nitrous cam yo!

[NJ346]

street racers don't give specs :shifty:

nah, no street racing here...i'd like to keep a little mystery to the build for the lt1 guys.

[Zero4488]

Give the kid a break....H/C LS1...even put together by an idiot will do one of two things...not start or rip....


Good luck Vin...like I said if you need a hand just let me know...

-Dave

[LTb1ow]

Give the kid a break....H/C LS1...even put together by an idiot will do one of two things...not start or rip....


Good luck Vin...like I said if you need a hand just let me know...

-Dave

I would cut him slack if he did it while the engine was in the car, but since he isn't, no slack what so ever. :nod:

[sweetbmxrider]

hey maybe i'll have a car put together and we can race......at THE track!

[NastyEllEssWon]

No no, el es juan can run mas rapido. :lol:









lol so far youve run a best of 12.8 once.....vinnies car was faster than yours before this freshen up. it will continue to be once its back together. :nod:


nice job vinnie...hope to see it out there next spring.

[NJ346]

While everyone was bickering back and forth, I was outside getting some work done. Stock cam, lifters, oil pump, crank pulley, etc. are out...now it's time to start cleaning up the motor and then the new goodies will start going on. Goal for tonight: Get new cam, oil pump, oil pan, lifters, timing chain, and pulley back on the motor. While I was out in the garage the new clutch from monster arrived. The real fun starts tomorrow when the heads go on tomorrow and then the tear down of the car starts.

Just 2 pics of progress:
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u168/NJNETSFAN515/IM001334.jpg

Stock cam(for sale:lol:)
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u168/NJNETSFAN515/IM001335.jpg

[JerzLT1]

so are the cam specs a secret?

[NJ346]

so are the cam specs a secret?

Until I get a few passes out on the track-yes. Some people have had great results with this cam...others have had ok results. It's not huge(not even the size of a MS3 cam).

[sweetbmxrider]

if you give me the stock cam, i'll throw it in......my trunk :rofl:

i'm no ls1 guru but what do your heads flow and compared to stock?

[NJ346]

if you give me the stock cam, i'll throw it in......my trunk :rofl:

i'm no ls1 guru but what do your heads flow and compared to stock?

I'm only throwing on stock ls6 heads...don't have the money for a port and polish job.

The new cam, oil pump, timing chain, and front cover are installed. As well as the valley cover was installed. Also, the pistons and block were cleaned up(still gotta clean up some more tomorrow).

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u168/NJNETSFAN515/motorswap003-1.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u168/NJNETSFAN515/motorswap004-1.jpg

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u168/NJNETSFAN515/motorswap006.jpg

[KirkEvil]

so are the cam specs a secret?

He doesnt want to be embarrassed when he runs a 12.8 with heads and cam :rofl:

[S.J.SLEEPER]

torquer cam.....

hey vin glad to see someone of your age is able to pull that engine apart and put it back together. (as long as it runs)

there is nothing like hittn the starter button after a motor you built by yourself and it goes vroooom !!!

i remeber my first sbc i did from bare block to file fittin the rings to wiring the whole car.
when that engine went diiiddiiidddiidddi.........vrooooom
lumpyity lump lump lumpity lump lump.....
i had this **** eatin grin for hours !!! you will too.
congrats man.

p.s. welcome to the local LS1nuthugger club ! lol

[emolineaux]

nice job so far. good luck hope the swap goes smooth like mine did.

[Zero4488]

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u168/NJNETSFAN515/motorswap003-1.jpg


HOLY OIL STARVATION BATMAN!!!!!! :shock:

[NJ346]

Tomorrow starts the big teardown. I'll post back tomorrow night with progress pics. With some luck, maybe the k-member will be out of the car tomorrow night.

[BigAls87Z28]

Ive seen motors get brown with oil saturation, so I assume thats why the block is copper?
Looks pretty cool that way.

[Zero4488]

Ive seen motors get brown with oil saturation, so I assume thats why the block is copper?
Looks pretty cool that way.

:-?
Oil Saturation Starvation...hey they both start with an S and are almost spellled the same way....

[NJ346]

Well I didn't get as far as I planned to today because of the machine shop...didn't get the heads until 5 pm. The new motor is just about done, just needs the intake manifold and crank pulley thrown on. Once it's on the k-member I'm putting a new rear main seal on it. I also started tearing down the car tonight. About an hour more of work and I'll be ready to lift the body off of the frame.

Workspace:
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u168/NJNETSFAN515/motorswap002-1.jpg

Room to get to the tools:
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u168/NJNETSFAN515/motorswap005-1.jpg

Heads on the motor:
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u168/NJNETSFAN515/motorswap004-2.jpg

Harness un-bolted from the car:
http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u168/NJNETSFAN515/motorswap008.jpg

[Mike]

looks good mang

[NJ Torque]

How about that nitrous plate on there...??

[NJ346]

How about that nitrous plate on there...??

I had planned to blow up the original motor at the track, but ran outta time. Nitrous never saw the motor.

Update:

K-member is out of the car. Now I'll spend the rest of the day working on a wiring mess. and getting the old motor stripped down and taken off of the k-member.

[Mike]

I had planned to blow up the original motor at the track, but ran outta time. Nitrous never saw the motor.

Update:

K-member is out of the car. Now I'll spend the rest of the day working on a wiring mess. and getting the old motor stripped down and taken off of the k-member.

thats a crap plan, you would ruin everyones night while you got a quick chuckle?

[Zero4488]

thats a crap plan, you would ruin everyones night while you got a quick chuckle?

Only if he swerved back and forth and oiled down both lanes....now that would be funny :rofl:

[NJ346]

thats a crap plan, you would ruin everyones night while you got a quick chuckle?

Did I do it? no.

Update: Wiring harness is just about done. I just need to get the hard lines off of the rack and then the motor can come off of the k-member.

[BigAls87Z28]

Looks good man!!

[transmaro93]

hey vin good luck with everything... ill be working non stop this weekend my self... hope everything goes well for you...

[NJ346]

I'll post pictures when everythings done..been too busy working on the car.

Progress of today:
Took off the wheels.
Dropped the k-member
Unbolted trans
Installed new slave cylinder
Un wired the harness from the motor
All accessories stripped off the old motor
Old motor taken off k-member
New rack and pinion installed.
New motor placed on k-member
Started wiring

Tomorrow:
Finish wiring
Install new rear main seal
Install clutch
Rebolt trans
Finish wiring
And if there's enough time bolt it back up to the body.
Then sunday I'll spend the day going over things and have it back on the road by mid day.

[NastyEllEssWon]

http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i125/Jsaul83/100_0507.jpg?t=1257586807







shouldve kept the wheels on. that way you can kinda shimmy it around by the trans

[transmaro93]

i used floor dollies under mine without the wheels on...

[NJ346]

I was going to try keeping the wheels on, but as I pulled the body off, the struts kicked out and it would have been a pain in the ass to have a dolly on the trans and have 2 people hold the struts so we could move it around. I'm making it work. Here's some pics of the progress from yesterday:
http://photos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs119.snc3/16654_1190986908420_1640801057_479320_5641372_n.jp g

http://photos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs099.snc3/16654_1190987108425_1640801057_479325_7010720_n.jp g

Making sure stuff wasn't getting hung up:
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs099.snc3/16654_1190987188427_1640801057_479327_7247478_n.jp g

All out:
http://photos-h.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs119.snc3/16654_1190987508435_1640801057_479335_45206_n.jpg

New motor getting dropped on the K-member:
http://photos-f.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs119.snc3/16654_1190985468384_1640801057_479315_132606_n.jpg

[NastyEllEssWon]

heh good job. made it a little harder than it had to be but it works. ramps work well to get the body high enough but tires flat enough to get it up

[JL8Jeff]

Looks like some good progress. At least you're working on your F-body! I've spent the last 4 weeks working on my 4Runner and finally got it through inspection this week. I still need to do a few more things and it will be ready for the winter. And now with the SS sitting in the garage, I'm starting to think about doing some more mods to that.

[sweetbmxrider]

i did the same thing with the struts kicking out, now i disconnect the strut from the lower a arm and take the spindle nut off the upper. i think its a little easier.

oh yeah, get new front brake hoses :wink: those puppies don't like stretch!

[NJ346]

Lunch break time. Motor is all wired. New clutch is on. Another 45 mins worth of work and it'll be ready to start going back on the body. I need to wait for some help to show up before I can do that. Majority of the work was done by me, with 2 friends helping move stuff around/get me tools. I'll probably take my time wiring up everything back to the body, but if I can get the K-member back up into the body by 5 tonight, it might see life tonight :D. If not, tomorrow morning it should be running. Can't wait. After looking at the mess of wires/bare k-member last night, I was questioning whether I would be able to get this thing back together, but it's starting to look like something again. I'll post up late tonight on how far I got today.

[Scrat's_Camaro]

nice work . you should post of a vid of it when its done and ready to fire.

[transmaro93]

good job man... looks like your kicken major ass on this.... mine is just about ready to go back in also... but its getting late and i have to work outside so i think im gonna leave that till tomarrow... ill take a progress pic later if you want to check my thread.... BTW this pic...
http://photos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc3/hs099.snc3/16654_1190987188427_1640801057_479327_7247478_n.jp g

stupid ls1s with their neatly placed plug wires and headers!!! uggghhh

[transmaro93]

yea they deff dont look as cool as SBC headers... but they are deff a better design as far as functionality goes... same goes for ls1 fire order.... doesnt sound as good cammed... but runs smoother and better...

[xrelapse13]

damn man good progress. Didn't you just put a new Monster clutch in a few months ago?

[NJ346]

damn man good progress. Didn't you just put a new Monster clutch in a few months ago?

Yea, but I was having some issues with what I thought was a pressure plate issue. Turns out the slave cylinder was leaking pretty good and contaminated the clutch.

Progress for today:
New motor completely wired
New clutch and pressure plate installed
Headers re-installed
Trans re installed
K-member bolted to the body

Left for tomorrow morning:
Wiring the harness and putting the computer back in the car.
Add all fluids
Connect coolant lines
Bleed the clutch and breaks
Connect the torque arm to trans
Bolt in drive shaft
Start it up and take it for a spin:nod:

[NastyEllEssWon]

congrats vinnie. good job. get some vids mang

[NJ346]

congrats vinnie. good job. get some vids mang

thanks, you just reminded me to plug in the camera. There will be a start up vid posted back tomorrow night.

[NastyEllEssWon]

im good for something lol

[LTb1ow]

im good for nothing lol

:lol:

[xrelapse13]

Yea, but I was having some issues with what I thought was a pressure plate issue. Turns out the slave cylinder was leaking pretty good and contaminated the clutch.

Progress for today:
New motor completely wired
New clutch and pressure plate installed
Headers re-installed
Trans re installed
K-member bolted to the body

Left for tomorrow morning:
Wiring the harness and putting the computer back in the car.
Add all fluids
Connect coolant lines
Bleed the clutch and breaks
Connect the torque arm to trans
Bolt in drive shaft
Start it up and take it for a spin:nod:



That's a bitch.. Amazing job on this project. I was gonna say i'll buy the old clutch off of you but nvm haha :lol:

[Zero4488]

Done Yet? I'm waiting....

[sweetbmxrider]

Left for tomorrow morning:
Wiring the harness and putting the computer back in the car.
Add all fluids
Connect coolant lines
Bleed the clutch and breaks
Connect the torque arm to trans
Bolt in drive shaft
Start it up and take it for a spin

i hope not in that order :shock:

lets see this bitch run again!!

[JerzLT1]

nice! im waiting for parts to fix the car and i should be ready for that race soon. wanna put some money down on it? :)

[NJ346]

Update:

Motor has seen life!!

Now I'm just working out the bugs.
Still gotta bleed the clutch and break lines.
Add some more coolant.
Throw the tires on.
And have some fun.
Hopefully I can be cruising by 5pm.

[NJ346]

Just got back from it's maiden voyage :)

Total time of build:
Engine Build: 1 day
Complete engine swap: 3 days

Start-up video:
http://s168.photobucket.com/albums/u168/NJNETSFAN515/?action=view&current=002.flv

[Mike]

you just gonna drive it with no tune?

[NJ346]

you just gonna drive it with no tune?

for now until the motor/clutch is broken in, then I'll get chummma to tune it.

[emolineaux]

sounds good vin.

[LTb1ow]

for now until the motor/clutch is broken in, then I'll get chummma to tune it.

How small of a cam did you get??? :rofl:

[NastyEllEssWon]

sounds good vin. now go get the good video camera :rofl:

[sweetbmxrider]

definitely sounds cammed :)

i don't understand why people don't edit videos :lol:

[BigRocsFirebird]

Sounds good!

[NJ346]

i don't understand why people don't edit videos :lol:

When I have time I'll upload the good video and edit it. I just wanted to get that video up because I said i'd have one up by Sunday night.

[sweetbmxrider]

yeah just the whole "turn the camera off" thing was funny

[FlyingDutchman]

sounds like a beast! pretty impressive you did all that yourself

[NJ346]

sounds like a beast! pretty impressive you did all that yourself

Thanks. I finished up today giving the car a good wash and then cleaned up the garage some. Also took care of a leaky coolant line. She's a cruiser now. Just needs a tune.

[MattysTA]

nice job vin sounds good...

[NJ346]

nice job vin sounds good...

thanks....should have enough to compete with ya now once your car is running again.:-P

[MattysTA]

thanks....should have enough to compete with ya now once your car is running again.:-P

yeah you just might, guess we'll have to get a pass off when its back on the road :grin:

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Congrats...cant wait to see what she turns...

[NJ346]

Congrats...cant wait to see what she turns...

all of this rain is really pissing me off. I've been able to rip on it a few times when it was dry out...2nd gear at ~40mph, just lights the tires up. It'll see the track in 2 weeks...time to start driving some more...has 125 miles on the setup right now.

[NJ346]

My car just got tuned today....I'm ready to go. Injectors think differently(110% duty cycle). My tuner said "if it was his car, he wouldn't be racing it", but oh well. In the spring it'll have new injectors and a fuel pump.

[NJ346]

Just got back from RPM in Delaware to get my chummma tune. Car did ok...gotta get a new belt tensioner...my belt kept flying off at around 6500rpm.

[LTb1ow]

My car just got tuned today....I'm ready to go. Injectors think differently(110% duty cycle). My tuner said "if it was his car, he wouldn't be racing it", but oh well. In the spring it'll have new injectors and a fuel pump.

Your injectors are at 110%? :shock:

[BonzoHansen]

Just got back from RPM in Delaware to get my chummma tune. Car did ok...gotta get a new belt tensioner...my belt kept flying off at around 6500rpm.

LOL. Double check all the pulleys are in good alignment.

[NJ346]

Your injectors are at 110%? :shock:

yep:-?..that's why there will definitely be no nitrous on the motor until the fuel system is redone. I FP guage was on the rail and the pump was keeping up, just the injectors suck.

[sweetbmxrider]

yeah try to move them up and down for bearing play

[NJ346]

LOL. Double check all the pulleys are in good alignment.

we did, they even took the crank pulley off and reinstalled it and it kept doing it. Gave a nice little 5 hp peak at ~6600:wink:. The tensioner has been squeaking, so I'll get a new one before I hit the track. It makes peak power at ~6200(like i said, not a big cam at all), so I might be good on the street.

[BonzoHansen]

My car just got tuned today....I'm ready to go. Injectors think differently(110% duty cycle). My tuner said "if it was his car, he wouldn't be racing it", but oh well. In the spring it'll have new injectors and a fuel pump.

and he continued to tune it? Huh. Is he gonna re-tune when you get new injectors?

[Kat]

Just got back from RPM in Delaware to get my chummma tune. Car did ok...gotta get a new belt tensioner...my belt kept flying off at around 6500rpm.


Thanks for telling me you were going to be 5 min from where I live.... Could of saved me 4 hours of driving... :rolleyes:

[NJ346]

Thanks for telling me you were going to be 5 min from where I live.... Could of saved me 4 hours of driving... :rolleyes:

Sorry about that, it was a last minute decision. THey were supposed to go to a rental at atco today, but it got rained out so they were at the shop. I completely forgot you lived in the area.

[Kat]

Not a prob dood. lol Just wanted to bust your stones a bit. Yeah RPM is litterally 5-10 min from here. They seem to know what they are doing :)

[DaSkinnyGuy]

flipping sweet

[KirkEvil]

So, did you go with the PredZ cam recommendation?

[NJ346]

So, did you go with the PredZ cam recommendation?

nah, went just a hair bigger than what he recommended. Already wish I went bigger, and I didn't see any results at the track:-?. Driveability is pretty much stock with the exception of a little cam surge when cold between 1100-1300rpm. Not sure what kind of gas mileage I'm going to get, but I'm pretty sure I'll still be seeing 23+ mpg hwy. Can't wait until it dries up here and I can start toying with it.

[KirkEvil]

Ive had a 228/232 .614/.598 on 111+2 sitting in my room waiting to go in since summer, Haha. How was driveability on the stock tune?

[NJ346]

Ive had a 228/232 .614/.598 on 111+2 sitting in my room waiting to go in since summer, Haha. How was driveability on the stock tune?

idle was ok after about 10 seconds...stalled occasionally...pig rich down low...lean as all hell above 3.5K. I spent $60 on gas in the past week to go ~200 miles....wasn't fun.

[JL8Jeff]

What injectors do you have right now? And don't worry about racing after next Thursday, it's gonna get cold as heck so there won't be any good racing left after this Tue or Wed.

[Mike]

cold = good

[qwikz28]

cold = good

cold = no traction

[MattysTA]

cold = no traction

you can still get traction aslong as you do it right, i can hook all winter long(with the exception of snow or ice of course)

[MattysTA]

Your injectors are at 110%? :shock:

mine were at a 130% when i did my cam.... lol

[NJ346]

What injectors do you have right now? And don't worry about racing after next Thursday, it's gonna get cold as heck so there won't be any good racing left after this Tue or Wed.

With the new tire setup I'm running, traction should be a non-issue.

[JL8Jeff]

It seems like more people break when it gets really cool out and other people can't get traction. I know cool air makes more power but if it's too cold it seems to cause a lot more problems. Hopefully the weather holds up for you.

[LTb1ow]

So what did it throw down Vinny?

[NJ346]

So what did it throw down Vinny?

average numbers for this setup:lol:. All numbers and cam specs will be posted after the 29th....just gotta keep "downshift" guessing since they keep their crap on the down low:wink:

[B4C]

average numbers for this setup:lol:. All numbers and cam specs will be posted after the 29th....just gotta keep "downs syndrome" guessing since they keep their crap on the down low:wink:

Fixed it for ya:rofl:

[JerzLT1]

what tires are you running out back?

[LTb1ow]

Nice numbers :shifty:

[NJ346]

what tires are you running out back?

same as you

[JerzLT1]

damn, its about time you stepped up to some real tires. are you full suspension yet?

[NJ346]

damn, its about time you stepped up to some real tires. are you full suspension yet?

I told you this setup was more thought out:wink: I'm still on stock springs and shocks, everything else was upgraded a long time ago.

[sweetbmxrider]

stock shocks? aw come on now!

[JerzLT1]

yeah just so you know my shocks held me back ALOT when i had stockers. you may want to look into something adjustable or if you need to keep it cheap throw some KYB GR2s on it, theyre fairly stiff and should keep the tires planted

[NJ346]

yeah just so you know my shocks held me back ALOT when i had stockers. you may want to look into something adjustable or if you need to keep it cheap throw some KYB GR2s on it, theyre fairly stiff and should keep the tires planted

I gotta work out the initial bugs of this setup and then I'll work on suspension next year.

[LTb1ow]

stock shocks? aw come on now!

Yea, what, are you trying to run as fast as me? :rofl:

[S.J.SLEEPER]

stock shocks & springs might work for him...... they have 185k on them. so should be shot allowing car to squat decently.

thats the old timers cheap way out. don't have $ for drag springs/shocks.... then pull them out of a junkyard car w/200k on them.

[Featherburner]

stock shocks & springs might work for him...... they have 185k on them. so should be shot allowing car to squat decently.

thats the old timers cheap way out. don't have $ for drag springs/shocks.... then pull them out of a junkyard car w/200k on them.Squat is bad. M'kay.

[Kat]

Squat is ok, its the excessive rebound that unloads the tires is what hurts ya.

[NJ346]

Well I had some free time tonight so I decided to make a short video with pics of the build and a video of the dyno runs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ST_JUMD6F0o

Let me know what you guys think

[NJ Torque]

No offense, those numbers seem kind of low for LS6 heads with that big of a cam...

[NJ346]

No offense, those numbers seem kind of low for LS6 heads with that big of a cam...

you've also got to remember that the intake manifold and rear are playing a factor in those numbers. Dyno numbers are only numbers...the real test will be at the track on Sunday.

[sweetbmxrider]

pretty sweet vin, pretty sweet.

[HW72]

pretty sweet vin, pretty sweet.

I concur. Best of luck at the track this weekend man.

[B4C]

you've also got to remember that the intake manifold and rear are playing a factor in those numbers. Dyno numbers are only numbers...the real test will be at the track on Sunday.

Damn dude you only 1rwhp more than I have with my 6.0l wanna race:wink:8-)

[NJ346]

Damn dude you only 1rwhp more than I have with my 6.0l wanna race:wink:8-)

sure, if u think you can out row me;)

[B4C]

sure, if u think you can out row me;)

Hahaha I can't trust me. I've never driven a stick car down the track only automatics. I still have some bolt ons to get so I'll have more
hp soon:wink: Let me learn how to drive with the m-6 first and I think it will be a pretty good match

[JerzLT1]

stock shocks & springs might work for him...... they have 185k on them. so should be shot allowing car to squat decently.

thats the old timers cheap way out. don't have $ for drag springs/shocks.... then pull them out of a junkyard car w/200k on them.

yeah the problem is that they arent putting enough pressure down at that point. theres a video somewhere around here where you can see my tires jump into the wheel wells because the shocks are so blown

[S.J.SLEEPER]

yeah the problem is that they arent putting enough pressure down at that point. theres a video somewhere around here where you can see my tires jump into the wheel wells because the shocks are so blown

WELL.......I never said "blown shocks" I said high mileage. being that the springs & shocks are soft from the mileage. it is obvoius that a blown shock will cause the suspension to bounce/wheel hop etc... but if shocks are decent the soft/worn out springs will allow it to squat and with enuff power the car will keep it squatted.....

Squatting is good.... thats weight transfer which plants the tires to the pavement = traction

anyway it was just a comment, i make enough $ i can buy drag shocks & springs new out of the catalog. a matter of fact i could probably buy everyone on this forum shocks/springs.

Vin good luck on the 29th and pm me if you need anything in a pinch.

[Featherburner]

Squatting is good.... thats weight transfer which plants the tires to the pavement = traction
Again, squatting is BAD. Weight transfer is good but the rear suspension should actually push away from the body or rise.

[sweetbmxrider]

a matter of fact i could probably buy everyone on this forum shocks/springs.

qa1 24 ways please! 8-) (springs for a heavy ass lt1 :wink:)

[KirkEvil]

Cool Video of build. I think the numbers are pretty good for untouched LS6 heads and that cam. Compare it to guys running the Torquer series cams if you need some reference numbers.

Do you have a dyno graph you could post up? What head gaskets did you go with?

[LTb1ow]

WELL.......I never said "blown shocks" I said high mileage. being that the springs & shocks are soft from the mileage. it is obvoius that a blown shock will cause the suspension to bounce/wheel hop etc... but if shocks are decent the soft/worn out springs will allow it to squat and with enuff power the car will keep it squatted.....

Squatting is good.... thats weight transfer which plants the tires to the pavement = traction

anyway it was just a comment, i make enough $ i can buy drag shocks & springs new out of the catalog. a matter of fact i could probably buy everyone on this forum shocks/springs.

Vin good luck on the 29th and pm me if you need anything in a pinch.


Comp Eng 3 ways please. 8-)


Nice video Vin, hopefully get to race ya and your 110% injectors this weekend. :lol:

[NJ346]

Cool Video of build. I think the numbers are pretty good for untouched LS6 heads and that cam. Compare it to guys running the Torquer series cams if you need some reference numbers.

Do you have a dyno graph you could post up? What head gaskets did you go with?

I haven't had a chance to scan the dyno graph yet. The power band comes on nicely. It has over 300 tq at the wheels by 2800 rpm..peak power at 6200. I went with Felpro perma-blues for the head gaskets. The whole motor has felpro gaskets on it since I felt they were superior to anything else, and this motor will get a beating like anything else I drive:lol:.

[JerzLT1]

WELL.......I never said "blown shocks" I said high mileage. being that the springs & shocks are soft from the mileage. it is obvoius that a blown shock will cause the suspension to bounce/wheel hop etc... but if shocks are decent the soft/worn out springs will allow it to squat and with enuff power the car will keep it squatted.....

Squatting is good.... thats weight transfer which plants the tires to the pavement = traction

anyway it was just a comment, i make enough $ i can buy drag shocks & springs new out of the catalog. a matter of fact i could probably buy everyone on this forum shocks/springs.

Vin good luck on the 29th and pm me if you need anything in a pinch.

the rear axle should be a pivot point, it should not squat. i have 12 way adjustables with it set almost as firm as it will go, i understand that you mean weight transfer when you say squat, but squating means the back tires tucking up in the wheel wells, and its NEVER GOOD. you want the front to lift and the rear to stay firm.

btw no one cares how much money you make.

[MattysTA]

not bad vin, not bad at all...guess ill throw my heads on during the trans rebuild :)