Cam Only LS1 6th Fastest

[1984camaroz28]

Ran a new best today in the car, the best run was at 12:43 pm with a DA of -500.
60' 1.367
330 4.211
1/8 6.573
mph 103.09
1000 8.633
1/4 10.381
mph 129.32

Will have a video up shortly. Atco is one of the nicest racing facilities in the Northeast, if not the nicest. If anyone can get into one of there rentals I highly recommend it. For those who don't know it is a trex cam in a stock 2001 motor (241 heads) with a th350. I think the mile per hour impressed me more then the time. We'll be back down in december to see what it does in -2000 DA :)

[Jared1970Chevelle]

Bone stock motor with just a Cam?

What converter? what does the tin can weigh?

[1984camaroz28]

Bone stock motor with just a Cam?

What converter? what does the tin can weigh?

8" ATI converter with 4500 stall. The motor is Cam only just like it says. The raceweight is 3100 lbs. Still has: stock glass,upper and lower control arms, brake master cylinders, steering rack. The car has come a long way to say the least.

[sweetbmxrider]

very, very impressive!

[BigRocsFirebird]

very nice, congrats on that pass. and sweet drifter above my comment

[01blackz28]

and one hell of a driver LOL

[WayFast84]

what gears?

[KirkEvil]

That is amazing for 241 castings. congrats! Are the heads milled at all to bump compression? If so I guess you flycut?

[1984camaroz28]

what gears?
4.56's with a 30" tire
That is amazing for 241 castings. congrats! Are the heads milled at all to bump compression? If so I guess you flycut?

They are bone stock 241 heads. No need to flycut because the heads are not milled even run a stock gm mls head gasket.

[KirkEvil]

They are bone stock 241 heads. No need to flycut because the heads are not milled even run a stock gm mls head gasket.

Unmilled heads make that even more impressive. Time to update your sig!

[Jared1970Chevelle]

so the bone stock motor with 241s and just a cam only makes around 523.25 horsepower at the rear wheel?

you guys running stock injectors? fuel rails? fuel pump?

[1984camaroz28]

If you want to doubt it put ur money were ur mouth is and we will pull it apart for you.
42lb injectors. stock rails , 255 intake pump

[NJ Torque]

Hmm 42# injectors takin you that far... good stuff... gives me some hope :]

[Jared1970Chevelle]

did you dyno the car? i know people with a lot more then what you go in that motor and they make no where near those numbers you make....

[01blackz28]

so the bone stock motor with 241s and just a cam only makes around 523.25 horsepower at the rear wheel?

you guys running stock injectors? fuel rails? fuel pump?

Looks like you know how to type numbers into the horsepower calculator LOL So what are you trying to say? You know people who have a lot more and don't run a better number? Bring me a set of 241 heads and a $1000 I promise you, you will lose your money. Then I will put lexan in the car and drop 100 lbs and run even faster.

[Jared1970Chevelle]

Looks like you know how to type numbers into the horsepower calculator LOL So what are you trying to say? You know people who have a lot more and don't run a better number? Bring me a set of 241 heads and a $1000 I promise you, you will lose your money. Then I will put lexan in the car and drop 100 lbs and run even faster.


yea the calculator dont lie..... you spraying this car?

[01blackz28]

yea the calculator dont lie..... you spraying this car?

LOL

[Mike]

yea the calculator dont lie..... you spraying this car?

if they were spraying... it wouldnt be cam only :idea:

[Jared1970Chevelle]

LOL

??????

[Jersey Mike]

Very impressive!


4.56 gears, trex, 42# injectors, tires, 3100lbs...
what rear end is in the car? intake? unmuffled?

[Jared1970Chevelle]

if they were spraying... it wouldnt be cam only :idea:

yea it would still be cam only.....stock motor with cam only.... now if hes spraying then that number is able to be reached.... i got some friends with tin can mustangs stock 5.0 motors with girdles going around those numbers and faster with spray

[01blackz28]

if they were spraying... it wouldnt be cam only :idea:
Thank you for clarifying that.
??????
LOL Laugh Out Loud. Yes I am laughing at you. The comment about spray to be exact. Like I said bring me a grand and a set of 241 heads. Untill then there is no need for your non-sense in this thread. Incase you didn't know the record it a 10.22 with a 3050 raceweight ;) And no there was no spray :)

[01blackz28]

Very impressive!


4.56 gears, trex, 42# injectors, tires, 3100lbs...
what rear end is in the car? intake? unmuffled?

A moser 12 bolt with a spool and light weight axles. As far as the intake goes its a Fast 90/90 setup ported by SSP. I am runnning a dynatech muffler that to my knowledge has no restrictions.

[Jared1970Chevelle]

Thank you for clarifying that.

LOL Laugh Out Loud. Yes I am laughing at you. The comment about spray to be exact. Like I said bring me a grand and a set of 241 heads. Untill then there is no need for your non-sense in this thread. Incase you didn't know the record it a 10.22 with a 3050 raceweight ;) And no there was no spray :)


cant wait to see your car in the magazines.... thats very impressive then....

[Jared1970Chevelle]

A moser 12 bolt with a spool and light weight axles. As far as the intake goes its a Fast 90/90 setup ported by SSP. I am runnning a dynatech muffler that to my knowledge has no restrictions.

seems like more then just a cam... but still very impressive....

[Mike]

yea it would still be cam only.....stock motor with cam only.... now if hes spraying then that number is able to be reached.... i got some friends with tin can mustangs stock 5.0 motors with girdles going around those numbers and faster with spray

nope, it would be a power adder car. not cam only :idea:

there are stock internal cars running in the 10s so believe it.

[Jared1970Chevelle]

nope, it would be a power adder car. not cam only :idea:

there are stock internal cars running in the 10s so believe it.

i know plenty of stock internal cars running into the 10s..... regardless.... cam only is cam only.... stock everything else including the exhaust manifolds....

regardless... that is a very impressive number and it is not cheap to go low 10s....

[Zero4488]

Awesome numbers...don't take these clowns comments to heart....they think H/C/I cars should only go low 11's....well put together setup can work...

-Dave

[01blackz28]

seems like more then just a cam... but still very impressive....

LOL Just stick to street racing your 13 second chevelle in middletown and stay out of this thread please.

[01blackz28]

Awesome numbers...don't take these clowns comments to heart....they think H/C/I cars should only go low 11's....well put together setup can work...

-Dave

Thanks. I can't wait to see some video's of the 1.3x 60's. It was insane in the car I can just imagine what it looked like.

[blue z]

congrats on the time u thinkin twice about selling it now lol

[Jared1970Chevelle]

LOL Just stick to street racing your 13 second chevelle in middletown and stay out of this thread please.

you got a ls1 factory intake or a fast intake on it?

as per this great forums rules.... there will be noooooo talk about illegal street racing on this forum...

[Mike]

cam only allows for full boltons. but no other internal work other than the cam. stop trying to make up arguments

[WayFast84]

you got a ls1 factory intake or a fast intake on it?

as per this great forums rules.... there will be noooooo talk about illegal street racing on this forum...

listen up D bag if your gonna try to start **** go to another board! Obviously you don't know about the ls1 bolt ons-stock internals, cam only etc and your just trying to start problems.. If you actually read this thread you would know he Is running a ported fast intake........................ see you in the classifieds baii

[LTb1ow]

listen up D bag if your gonna try to start **** go to another board! Obviously you don't know about the ls1 bolt ons-stock internals, cam only etc and your just trying to start problems.. If you actually read this thread you would know he Is running a ported fast intake........................ see you in the classifieds baii

AHahahahah wow... pot, meet kettle. :rofl:

[Mike]

Oh noes. Wayfast ownage

[01blackz28]

listen up D bag if your gonna try to start **** go to another board! Obviously you don't know about the ls1 bolt ons-stock internals, cam only etc and your just trying to start problems.. If you actually read this thread you would know he Is running a ported fast intake........................ see you in the classifieds baii
lol Thank you. I don't think he knows how to read too well.

[Jared1970Chevelle]

Yea i read cam only.....

You obviously have.... ported fast intake... cam... headers.... 42 lb injectors.... etc etc etc....

im not looking to argue just want to put into perspective how you got the car to go that fast.....

you need X amount of power at X amount of weight to go a certain time.... low 10s is fast and its not cheap to attain....

[Jersey Mike]

just give it up man

[baddest434]

very nice job guys. thats some nice numbers and impressive mph. kudos

we'll have to run for fun one day. i'm at 10.0 @ 137 on motor.

[01blackz28]

very nice job guys. thats some nice numbers and impressive mph. kudos

we'll have to run for fun one day. i'm at 10.0 @ 137 on motor.

Thanks. There is a rental December 3rd if you're interested. I have a video of a 10.40@129 but its avi format. Does anyone know how to convert it to mpeg?

[baddest434]

thanks for the offer about the rental. but i just went to the rental cbrrmike had on oct 20th. and i'm broke now lol that day cost 700 bucks between nitrous and fuel, oil change, plugs, food and entry.

[S.J.SLEEPER]

This is rediculous !!! the guy just wanted to post some times that he was really proud of. obviously has to have a lot of time & money into the car to obtain such a good run.
so stfu and stop being jealous. there is no reason for him to post a b.s. story or lie about it.

congrats on the great time slip !!!

oh and for clarification again

cam only w/ every friggin bolton possible........ still a cam only motor

[sweetbmxrider]

Thanks. There is a rental December 3rd if you're interested. I have a video of a 10.40@129 but its avi format. Does anyone know how to convert it to mpeg?

youtube can host .avi

if you can't play it on your computer, download quicktime. avi is apples format if you didn't know.

as for encoding, you can search around but most you have to pay for, have limited use, or put a banner thing in the video.

[DaSkinnyGuy]

that is one way to step up a car awsome man

[01blackz28]

Guys check out this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbsG3yaiPw4

[S.J.SLEEPER]

squeaky brakes.....nice

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Nice launch!

[Squirrel]

ugh.. i miss racing :(

[mc73nova]

Congrats. What did you guys do differently to cut off the 4 tenths of your previous best?

[1984camaroz28]

Congrats. What did you guys do differently to cut off the 4 tenths of your previous best?

To start we took a full tenth off of our 60' (going to a softer compound tire may have helped) . We also went with an 8" converter to help with efficiency. On top of that we added American Racing headers 1 7/8". Unfortunately, we could not see a true gain because the transmission was slipping before the headers were installed. So the trans was rebuilt. Last, going speed density with the tune (no MAF restriction) and some fine tuning we picked up over 15 rwhp on our new 224x dynojet. He just ordered key weight reduction parts. I am confident results will improve December 3rd.

[mc73nova]

To start we took a full tenth off of our 60' (going to a softer compound tire may have helped) . We also went with an 8" converter to help with efficiency. On top of that we added American Racing headers 1 7/8". Unfortunately, we could not see a true gain because the transmission was slipping before the headers were installed. So the trans was rebuilt. Last, going speed density with the tune (no MAF restriction) and some fine tuning we picked up over 15 rwhp on our new 224x dynojet. He just ordered key weight reduction parts. I am confident results will improve December 3rd.

Sounds good. What RPM are you shifting at?

[1984camaroz28]

7000 around

[01blackz28]

Having some valve float issues. Wait till they are fixed, homeboy Jared will really think i'm using nitrous oxide for sure LOL

[1984camaroz28]

very easy fix SOLID ROLLER

[BarneyMobile]

OMG That launch was just beautiful, Gongrats guys! That car is very impressive. Im gonna go back and watch that video a few more times lol.

[qwikz28]

clean your bumper! nice run. Car sounds mean! Good job guys

[TEKHAWK]

Very nice job! The solid roller should help.
Were any of the nitrous cars there that you guys hang with?

[01blackz28]

OMG That launch was just beautiful, Gongrats guys! That car is very impressive. Im gonna go back and watch that video a few more times lol.
Thanks, it carries the wheels really well.
clean your bumper! nice run. Car sounds mean! Good job guys
I like the rubber on the bumper look. I'm probably painting the car this winter either hugger orange or medium blue metallic
Very nice job! The solid roller should help.
Were any of the nitrous cars there that you guys hang with?

I just don't want to go solid roller and have everyone saying its not cam only because its solid roller. The thunder car that has the record i'm pretty sure was hydrolic roller. Also, none of those nitrous cars were they're. Our friend Rick who has a 440 lsx + spray was suppose to go but he had a little bit of trouble with his tow vehicle.

[sweetbmxrider]

you guys should race vinny, he's heads/cam so he'll prob win :)

[S.J.SLEEPER]

01blackz28
why don't you think about using a set of lunati lifters or caddy lifters.
the caddy lifters where developed by gm to withstand long & high rpm's they run these lifters for racing @7200-7400rpms.
even katech uses them in the motors they build for the cts races

[01blackz28]

you guys should race vinny, he's heads/cam so he'll prob win :)
The car will have a 440 lsx motor in it this spring and he doesn't want to run anyone untill around then :mrgreen:
01blackz28
why don't you think about using a set of lunati lifters or caddy lifters.
the caddy lifters where developed by gm to withstand long & high rpm's they run these lifters for racing @7200-7400rpms.
even katech uses them in the motors they build for the cts races

Lifters aren't the issue. I've been in contact with Shane from Thunder Racing(Co-owner). He is 100% positive that I am having valve float issues based on the dyno graphs I sent him. We're putting some new springs in with shims and we'll have it back on the dyno next week.

[NJ Torque]

^ I was floating the lifters with my car... springs were fine.

[98tadriver]

i know plenty of stock internal cars running into the 10s..... regardless.... cam only is cam only.... stock everything else including the exhaust manifolds....

regardless... that is a very impressive number and it is not cheap to go low 10s....

you fool, cam only is pertaining to whats done internally to the car.
so that means bolt ons + cam

stock internals means bolt ons and stock longblock

the fastest stock internal LS1 ran a 10.68@122mph on a 1.37 60' with a 3000 or sub 3000# raceweight, so a 10.3@129mph isnt hard to believe at all. nice pass!

[01blackz28]

^ I was floating the lifters with my car... springs were fine.
I spoke to the co-owner of Thunder Racing, he told me that it is without a doubt valve float. While the springs that are currently in the car " were a good spring in their day but there are much better options out there now." Shane also told me that the cam only car that has the record was running stock lifters.
you fool, cam only is pertaining to whats done internally to the car.
so that means bolt ons + cam

stock internals means bolt ons and stock longblock

the fastest stock internal LS1 ran a 10.68@122mph on a 1.37 60' with a 3000 or sub 3000# raceweight, so a 10.3@129mph isnt hard to believe at all. nice pass!

Thanks hopefully we'll run a better time December 3rd.

[98tadriver]

no doubt you'll run better! gotta love atco in december with that nitrous-like DA lol

[01blackz28]

no doubt you'll run better! gotta love atco in december with that nitrous-like DA lol

Cartek guys on ls1tech said the day was only -50 that day not -500. So if I see a -1500 DA December 3rd It will definately feel like a nitrous pass LOL

[01blackz28]

*************UPDATE*************
New springs in picked up 1 peak hp on the dyno. That isn't all, picked up in spots under the curver 30hp!!!!!!!! Not to mention the 10 ft lb of torque across the board!!!!!! Can't wait to run this thurday :) New videos to come.....

[01blackz28]

BTW still hydro roller with STOCK LIFTERS