Cant shift after tune ?

[FASTEDDIE Z]

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[Savage_Messiah]

Why not let it do its job and shift itself?

[NastyEllEssWon]

why shift an auto?

[JerzLT1]

your not supposed to shift it, thats why its called an automatic. i can assure you that the computer can shift faster and more accurately then you every single time

[FASTEDDIE Z]

Yes , but to make it stay in 1st ( while in drive ) You have to be into the throttle pretty hard . Now with my 373's and my torq. management turned down .It just burns the tires . With the car in 1st ( manualy ) I can control the wheel spin and "pedal it" with ( 1/2 or 3/4 throttle ).Otherwise if I try to do a roll-on at 10mph I have to floor it to make it go into 1st .Then ,, pooof!!! The tires go up in smoke til 3rd gear .Not exactly good for racing .When I go to the track Ill use "D" and floor it :mrgreen: . But on the street where traction sometimes isnt all that good, :cry:

[NJ Torque]

Sounds like you need new tires.

[FASTEDDIE Z]

Sounds like you need new tires.

LOL !! Theyre on the way .I was hoping I wouldnt need them til after the stall converter . .Im waiting for the tuner to get back to me .

[NJ Torque]

My car bolt ons with 3.73s would kill tires from a 30 roll...

[FASTEDDIE Z]

Now I know !! :nod: With the 273's it felt ok . But now ,, much better .

[JSPERFORMANCE]

:rofl:

[FASTEDDIE Z]

Ok ...

[NastyEllEssWon]

maybe your just ruining your transmission by making it perform something its not meant to do?

[FASTEDDIE Z]

I dont think so . I dont shift manually very often .Thanks for trying to help everbody .

[NastyEllEssWon]

im under the assumption the the gears arent meant to be shifted manually on the automatic and more or less the available gear selects are meant situationally...like going up a steep hill or down a steep hill using the engine as a brake instead of riding the brakes down a hill.

[NJ Torque]

Ok ,I talked to the tuner and he said there is no part of the tune that will effect manual shifting . :werd: Ill check for a loose pin in the connector .Anything else to check that would cause this ??


Worn cable?

[camaro2you]

so what your saying is when you have the shifter down in first gear and bump the shifter up to second it will stay in first gear until you let of the accelerator. Correct?

[01blackz28]

This can be a sign that your transmission is on its way out. What color is the fluid? My friends lt1 a4 started doing exactly what you described. Soon enough the car only had reverse.

[NastyEllEssWon]

I have an idea why don't all you jerk off's who don't have a good answer for the man get out of the thread.




Today 12:09 PM
01blackz28 This can be a sign that your transmission is on its way out. What color is the fluid? My friends lt1 a4 started doing exactly what you described. Soon enough the car only had reverse.




exactly what i was thinking....

[FASTEDDIE Z]

I have an idea why don't all you jerk off's who don't have a good answer for the man get out of the thread. Im pretty sure this is a tech section.


Back on track, so what your saying is when you have the shifter down in first gear and bump the shifter up to second it will stay in first gear until you let of the accelerator. Correct?

Correct !! Maybe the increased line pressure from the tune ?? It shifts real well when in drive ,no slippage at all .Fluid doesnt look dark either . Guess Ill start with changing thr fluid and filter in the trans . THANK YOU !!

[camaro2you]

Its something with the transmission tune not allowing the valve body to change out of first to second when manually shifting, when you shift does it go to second at all or just bounce the limiter?

[JSPERFORMANCE]

I have an idea why don't all you jerk off's who don't have a good answer for the man get out of the thread. Im pretty sure this is a tech section.

But the good answer WAS given.. He is manually shifting a transmission that is not designed to be operated that way. All sorts of things can be affected by this, ie. increased band, drum, and sunshell wear/tear just to name a few.

Problem lies in the driver, it is the symptom that was not explained..

[FASTEDDIE Z]

But the good answer WAS given.. He is manually shifting a transmission that is not designed to be operated that way. All sorts of things can be affected by this, ie. increased band, drum, and sunshell wear/tear just to name a few.

Problem lies in the driver, it is the symptom that was not explained..

I almost NEVER shift manually . Only once in a while ,like racing on the track or street . Maybe once or twice a month .

[FASTEDDIE Z]

Its something with the transmission tune not allowing the valve body to change out of first to second when manually shifting, when you shift does it go to second at all or just bounce the limiter?

fixexd

[JSPERFORMANCE]

I almost NEVER shift manually . Only once in a while ,like racing on the track or street . Maybe once or twice a month .I dont think its the driver ( me ) since it didnt do it til AFTER the tune .

Dosent matter if you do it once or everyday your issue occurs when you are doing something you are not supposed to be doing.. While under high load is when you are going to do the most damage. If you didnt shift the car manually we wouldnt even have this thread in the first place..

[FASTEDDIE Z]

Dosent matter if you do it once or everyday your issue occurs when you are doing something you are not supposed to be doing.. While under high load is when you are going to do the most damage. If you didnt shift the car manually we wouldnt even have this thread in the first place..

ok ...

[JSPERFORMANCE]

You know best..
Would you care to bestow any further automotive knowledge upon me? Or will I go around the rest of my life never knowing everything there is to know about cars like you do?

[NastyEllEssWon]

WRONG again !! I have had many other camaros and firebirds . I shifted them ALL THE TIME !! 1 even had a junkyard trans .Never had a problem with them . Even with high stalls and a lot of track use .Over 110 runs at englishtown in 1 season and it was my DD running mid 12's .Why am I not suppose to shift it ?? Thats why they give you a shifter ( ever notice the "1 & 2" on the shifter plate ?? ) The car should shift the same .The same process take place in the trans . Only difference should be when it shifts . THIS STARTED AFTER THE TUNE .





like said before those gears arent there to shift it...theyre meant for situational use only for when you need the extra rpms in a desired gear. if it was designed to be shifted it would have come with paddle shifters or a little side slot for (+/-) shift.

you should listen to josh....something bout him tells me he knows what he's talking about....and its not the amsoil...:wink:

[FASTEDDIE Z]

You know best..
Would you care to bestow any further automotive knowledge upon me? Or will I go around the rest of my life never knowing everything there is to know about cars like you do?

done .. .

[sweetbmxrider]

eh, if you really want to shift an auto, have it built for it. its plenty possible, i just wouldn't trust it in stock form. sounds like an issue with the tune though especially if you didn't have the problem before.

[JSPERFORMANCE]

I guess I will have to wander the earth forever wondering "what if?"..

ASE's are overrated.. I am a Master tech as well.. With advanced certification.. Big deal.

[Czop418]

Hmm Sounds like the clutches are starting to go. Those tranny's arent real strong and if you shift them like a MVB it can only end with them blowing up. Pretty soon you start to see when your drive when you take hit into High RPM's it wont shift either. I would start looking into a new tranny , and since you like shifting it yourself, Look into a Manuel Valve Body

[WildBillyT]

Have you just been upshifting your automatic or have you also been downshifting it manually?

Bear in mind that if factory automatics were meant to be driven this way then things like AutoStick, TipTronic, and paddle shifted automatics would never have been needed.

[FASTEDDIE Z]

I guess I will have to wander the earth forever wondering "what if?"..

ASE's are overrated.. I am a Master tech as well.. With advanced certification.. Big deal.

They are very overrated .Im not stating I know more than you . Im sure you know your business inside and out . Im just stating that I have very good car nolige also .You dont have to wander the earth . I dont want to argue . I appreciate everyone's opinion . Even the negative ones . Its all good . At least the thread got some attention . Not what I expected though :shock:

[FASTEDDIE Z]

I promise to not shift my car manually any more .:nod:

[JSPERFORMANCE]

There was nothing negative. Everyone is just telling you how these transmissions were designed to operate. If you want to operate them in a fashon that is outside the original design you have to modify the trans to do what you want or longevity will suffer.. You were the one that had to come back with the know-it-all stuff.

[FASTEDDIE Z]

I didnt mean it like that . I was just saying "from my previous experiences " I haven't had a problem . I dont know it all .Nobody does . Again ,sorry if I offended anybody .

[Mike]

I didnt mean it like that . I was just saying "from my experiences " I haven't had a problem . I dont know it all .Nobody does . Again ,sorry if I offended anybody .

but you have had a problem... it is occurring right now

[FASTEDDIE Z]

but you have had a problem... it is occurring right now

Fixed my statement :wink:

[NJ Torque]

Fixed :wink:


:?:

[Tru2Chevy]

:?:

I believe he means the problem is fixed and he won't manually shift the car anymore, not the typical "quote someone and change what they say" fixed.

- Justin

[NJ Torque]

I believe he means the problem is fixed and he won't manually shift the car anymore, not the typical "quote someone and change what they say" fixed.

- Justin


Justin, I went back and read it a few times looking for that.8-)

[FASTEDDIE Z]

:?:

added the word " previous " to my statement