Way to go GM!

[Tsar]

This is world class product promotion. I'm so glad we bailed them out. :|

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvwTMZNWGuk&feature=player_embedded#

I'm sure Al will say that this is an awesome move and all, but I couldn't finish watching this atrocity.

[BonzoHansen]

My eyes!~!~!!!! Oh the pain!!!!!!!!1

[BigAls87Z28]

Yeah, thats pretty ugly. Its been around for a few days, and its awful. I dont understand how Susan Docherty still has a job...really I dont.

[deadtrend1]

I love it! Anyone have a torrent for the MP3.


:rolleyes:

[BigAls87Z28]

The song is bad, and the dancing is worse. Combining the two of them...ugh.
Its like its right from the 1960's.

[BigRocsFirebird]

What the ****, gross

[deadtrend1]

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/mc03steve/DEMOT1.JPG

[maroman88]

wiskey tango foxtrot

[edpontiac91]

I'ed rather listen to Lady GAG GAG :rofl: for THREE months straight then WTF have to listen to that sheet for 3 MINUTES. :barf:

[BonzoHansen]

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/mc03steve/DEMOT1.JPG

Radioactiveman, lookout!

[thunder]

terrible

[Featherburner]

Very entertaining!

[jin1481]

wow, are they suppose to be professional dancers?

[sweetbmxrider]

:rofl: ahahahha tim!

i thought the song was catchy. i bet you can make a sweet drinking game out of it too!

[BigAls87Z28]

This is blowing up fast and quick. Now Fox has to throw its 2 cents in now.
Hopefully Sussan Docherty will be out of a job before Christmas.

[BigAls87Z28]

I think I see what they were trying to do. They tried to combine a perky song like the Prius, and then they wanted to be hip with dance moves.
It was waaaaaaaaaaaaay too long, and the dancers were not needed. Pace of the song was way too fast. It really is like a 1950's GM commercial...only modernized.

[Tru2Chevy]

Ugh....whatever they were trying to do, it failed big time.

- Justin

[BigAls87Z28]

Sure did...just a giant melt down. Big Ed's gunna ****.

[Tsar]

I was wrong about Al, my apologies :mrgreen:

[SteveR]

"an error occurred, please try again later"

no more video :(

[Jersey Mike]

How Juno-esque.

[Tsar]

"an error occurred, please try again later"

no more video :(
I just clicked on it and it worked.

[SteveR]

I found a different video of it. Jesus oh my effing christ. wtf was that. I want my bailout money back. A kindergarten recital on a bad day has more talent than that. Who thought that was a good idea?

[BigAls87Z28]

I was wrong about Al, my apologies :mrgreen:

You're a douche. Just because its GM doesnt mean Im supporting it. Same goes for a lot of things, but I guess people with your limited brain capacity cant figure out that there just might be some people that live in the gray area, and thats its not always black and white.


Now put down the vodka, stop cleaning the AK47, and get back to making those Matryoshka dolls...commie.

[BurninrubberGT]

oh god...

[LTb1ow]

What the flying **** was that.

[BigAls87Z28]

Someone or several people losing thier jobs at GM, thats what

[cdacda13]

How the hell did that ever see the light of day? I hope its a joke.

[LS1Hawk]

How the hell did this ever get past Maximum Bob?

[BigAls87Z28]

Bob is more of an advisor now to Big Ed about product and where to take the company.

[91chevywt]

Maybe the honda/toyota crowd likes this kind of *****?

[Frosty]

I don't know which is funnier, that video or Al's response to Tsar. :rofl:

That video made me sick...a true disgrace.

[Bcozzi71]

wow...................wow

[BigAls87Z28]

They were trying to go for this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7vI-L4Lfmc

But some how....they strapped C4 to the idea, and let it glide into LA's Auto Show.

[WildBillyT]

That "gay ass song" has all of you talking about it...

[Foosh]

Thats not exactly catering to the younger crowd of kids who are buying civics and scions... GM really should start a new brand like toyota did or when they are back running well, restart pontiac and make it only sports cars aimed at the younger crowd, whether front rear or awd.

[BigAls87Z28]

They did...it was called Saturn.

In fact, Toyota created Scion in the image of Saturn. Hassle free pricing, small cheap cars with quirky styling, offering a different buying experiance.

Belive it for not, people dont want sports cars.
The Volt isnt for people who buy civics and scions.
GM has botched any and all marketing for this car in some real serious ways.

Who here can tell me what the Volt is without searching the internet about it?

[qwikz28]

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt83/ninety9gl/maLOLibu.jpg
:lol:

[Tsar]

You're a douche. Just because its GM doesnt mean Im supporting it. Same goes for a lot of things, but I guess people with your limited brain capacity cant figure out that there just might be some people that live in the gray area, and thats its not always black and white.


Now put down the vodka, stop cleaning the AK47, and get back to making those Matryoshka dolls...commie.

Did I strike a little nerve there? :lol: And yes just because it's GM you support it 95% of the time, at least on this board.

Let me know if you need me to ship you some tampons.

Back to GM sucks thread.

[BigAls87Z28]

Nah, no nerve was hit. It was more of a joke.
95% is pretty high percentage. Id say 70%.

[qwikz28]

Did I strike a little nerve there? :lol: And yes just because it's GM you support it 95% of the time, at least on this board.

Let me know if you need me to ship you some tampons.

Back to GM sucks thread.

If GM sucks so much, why does it concern you enough to return here to cry about it after you sold your GM product? :)

That being said, GM has some crummy marketing.

[wretched73]

That whole thing was a mistake

[BigAls87Z28]

It will continue to be GM's fall.

[Mr.FIRD]

That wass sooo gaay my poor ears are bleeding :(

[spina74]

anyone have a time machine...I want back the time I wasted from watching that.:violin:

[SteveR]

That "gay ass song" has all of you talking about it...

that is a good point. There are a lot of people in show biznezz that say negative publicity is still publicity.

[SteveR]

Who here can tell me what the Volt is without searching the internet about it?

The new evil Decepticon from the new Transformers movie? :scratch:



GM's marketing really is horrible. I think the best commercials they have are the truck ones with Howie Long, and even in them they don't talk about the capabilities of the trucks. Just off the top of anyones head from watching those commercials, can anyone tell me what the towing capacity is of the new Chevy trucks? What cab options there are? Bed capacity? Engine? Anything? All I know is they talk about carpenters and tools. They don't make me want to go out and buy a new Chevy truck, they make me want to go work on my deck.

[DaSkinnyGuy]

http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/vv320/xDaSkinnyGuyx/blueballs.gif

[xrelapse13]

holy jesus what the hell?

[WildBillyT]

that is a good point. There are a lot of people in show biznezz that say negative publicity is still publicity.

Yup. This is probably one of the best marketing things I've seen out of GM in a while... that was allowed to still air/be released.

[Tsar]

If GM sucks so much, why does it concern you enough to return here to cry about it after you sold your GM product? :)


Tell me that's not really your argument, there are a lot of people on this board that don't own anything GM and still post. Further more this was not a cry, I saw it on another forum and decided to post it here to spread the suckage. Sorry if GM makes thing I don't like, the only good thing about GM is the Cadillac, rest of it is crap.


Wow I really can't believe that you used "you don't own a GM so why do you post here" argument :rofl:

[Jersey Mike]

They've been talking about the Volt for a few years now, I think a lot of people have heard about it. Without doing a google search, I'm pretty sure there was footage of Lutz driving the Volt to display how quiet it is, as well as how it was still pleasant to drive--maybe last year?

The commercials from GM have been pretty iffy lately; I'm not crazy about the Cadillac commercials at all; meh, the cars moving, so what? It's got wheels, that's what it's supposed to be doing. But I like a lot of the Chevy commercials, with the in-your-face comparisons with competitor vehicles.

I loved these sorts of commercials from GM: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxJ0hrbZkBE
as well as the G8 commercials i remember seeing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHokcVWTOAo

[NastyEllEssWon]

i thought everyone knows what the volt was

[WildBillyT]

Some of GM's good ones that they pulled:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVAjK7cJzVY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQKk3PI-DW8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBs5FuCN8nE

[BigAls87Z28]

I have yet to find someone that can tell me, in a round about way, what the Volt is?
Or how its different then a Prius or a Tesla?
GM has goofed up the marketing on this, real bad. Thank God the car will be THAT good.

[Tsar]

I have yet to find someone that can tell me, in a round about way, what the Volt is? It's a new hybrid car.

Or how its different then a Prius or a Tesla?Prius cannot be plugged in and only runs on gas. Tesla is electric only, if you run out of juice in the middle of the desert you are dead. Volt features both, technically if you live 5 minutes away from your office you never have to use any gas and only run on electric power - granted you recharge it every so often. In theory it gives you unlimited mpg. I think I'm missing something else, but I can't remember.

GM has goofed up the marketing on this, real bad. Thank God the car will be THAT good.I don't think I have seen one commercial that explain all that volt can do. So I have to agree.

Do I get a cookie, or am I wrong somewhere?

[BigAls87Z28]

Eh, pretty close.

Ill wait to see what other people say.

[LTb1ow]

So rather than burn gas with a car, we pretend its clean and burn moaar coal out in the power plant! Huzzah!

Btw, if these catch on, how big a drain will they impose upon current power grids?

[BigAls87Z28]

Little. Less then an AC unit.
8 hr charge on 120
3 hr charge on 240
Cost wise is pennies.
I bet everyone here has something plugged in 24/7/365 that takes up more energy per year then the Volt will.
BUT, the car will be able to communicate to smart grids that are being set up in major cities to know when to draw less power.
San Francisico is installing them this year for arrival of the Volt as well as other cars like it.
This is a good time to update our power grid reguardless. Its a mess now, it should be improved.

[LTb1ow]

You mean the same AC units that cause most of NJ to go dark during the summer peak?

[BigAls87Z28]

Yes. Only there will be a 1/100 the number of Volts in NJ, and using up less power.
I see what you are doing...the old Fox news analogy!
VOLT IS LIKE AC, IT WILL KILL YOUR GRANDMA ON LIFE SUPPORT AND OBAMA WONT SAVE YOU MAHAHHAHA DEATH PANNELS!

[Tsar]

Little. Less then an AC unit.
8 hr charge on 120
3 hr charge on 240
Cost wise is pennies.
I bet everyone here has something plugged in 24/7/365 that takes up more energy per year then the Volt will.
BUT, the car will be able to communicate to smart grids that are being set up in major cities to know when to draw less power.
San Francisico is installing them this year for arrival of the Volt as well as other cars like it.
This is a good time to update our power grid reguardless. Its a mess now, it should be improved.
I've post this question before but no one answered. How do you charge it in the city? Let's say I live on the 8th floor of some building in BK, NY and I park on the street not necessarily next to my appt building, in fact it might be 1/4 mile away. How do I charge the Volt? I have never seen this explanation.

It's a serious question.

[BigAls87Z28]

Well, some cities like San Francisco are installing units to charge your car in parking garages, etc etc. More cities should install them in parking garages for apartment buildings, hotels, etc etc. Yet another Goverment job that we could be doing right now? Why not? No idea.
Second of all...if you live in a major city, take public transport!!
I see Volt's selling mostly in suburbia, were mom and/or dad can commute to and from work without gassing up.

[gotmudnj]

the volt is a soft drink right.

[BigAls87Z28]

Thats Jolt...

[gotmudnj]

volt the soft drink. like soda

[BonzoHansen]

Well, some cities like San Francisco are installing units to charge your car in parking garages, etc etc. More cities should install them in parking garages for apartment buildings, hotels, etc etc. Yet another Goverment job that we could be doing right now? Why not? No idea.
Second of all...if you live in a major city, take public transport!!
I see Volt's selling mostly in suburbia, were mom and/or dad can commute to and from work without gassing up.

I read a couple articles on this. A big reason they are doing meters & hookups in garages so they can charge consumers different amounts depending on what time of the day your car is plugged in - like triple during peak time. They need to train the consumer because the grid cannot handle electric cars. It was a small number too, along the lines of if 5% of the cars switched to electric and all plugged in at peak time the grid would melt. The power companies are simply not ready.

I won't even get into the transferrence of pollution, the HAZMAT disaster in waiting that the batteries represent, etc.

[NastyEllEssWon]

isnt the volt different because its an electric car that uses a small gas motor to recharge the car instead of having the electric motor boost the gas motor it works the opposite way around.

[qwikz28]

Tell me that's not really your argument, there are a lot of people on this board that don't own anything GM and still post. Further more this was not a cry, I saw it on another forum and decided to post it here to spread the suckage. Sorry if GM makes thing I don't like, the only good thing about GM is the Cadillac, rest of it is crap.


Wow I really can't believe that you used "you don't own a GM so why do you post here" argument :rofl:

I didn't ask why you are posting without a GM product, I asked why you come here if you hate it. Way to respond to the argument tough guy. ;)

[Tsar]

I didn't ask why you are posting without a GM product, I asked why you come here if you hate it. Way to respond to the argument tough guy. ;)Well, "hating" is part of posting, plus this is one of the only website that will defend GM no matter what the discussion is about. Ok maybe not 100% but a good 80+. So it keeps me entertained. I come here for the funnies. :lol:

[deadtrend1]

Stay On Topic...

[BigAls87Z28]

I read a couple articles on this. A big reason they are doing meters & hookups in garages so they can charge consumers different amounts depending on what time of the day your car is plugged in - like triple during peak time. They need to train the consumer because the grid cannot handle electric cars. It was a small number too, along the lines of if 5% of the cars switched to electric and all plugged in at peak time the grid would melt. The power companies are simply not ready.

I won't even get into the transferrence of pollution, the HAZMAT disaster in waiting that the batteries represent, etc.

Let me tell you what, if a couple of cars pluggedi nto the grid, even all at the same time, fry the grid, we have bigger problems. Much bigger problems.

[BonzoHansen]

Let me tell you what, if a couple of cars pluggedi nto the grid, even all at the same time, fry the grid, we have bigger problems. Much bigger problems.

5% of the cars on the road are more than a couple. There are over 250 million registered cars in the US. I don't remember the % discussed, maybe it was 10%. But it wasn't a high %.

And that was the exact fear the power companies expressed. These were CA companies, and they expect a much higher initial adoption rate there.

So yes, we have bigger problems.

[BigAls87Z28]

Wait...5% of all cars in the US? thats 12.5 million EV's on the road? Maybe thats 10 years from now? GM doesnt expect more then selling 100k cars at its peak, which they guess 2-3 years down the road.
So in 10 years, they cant fix the grid? ********, status quo nonsense. ******** x10.
Power companies just are lazy to do anything.

[wretched73]

Wait...5% of all cars in the US? thats 12.5 million EV's on the road? Maybe thats 10 years from now? GM doesnt expect more then selling 100k cars at its peak, which they guess 2-3 years down the road.
So in 10 years, they cant fix the grid? ********, status quo nonsense. ******** x10.
Power companies just are lazy to do anything.

Or too cheap. Upgrades cost money

[Bcozzi71]

i guess......bad publicity is still publicity...

[BigAls87Z28]

Or too cheap. Upgrades cost money

Surprisingly, they make money. Not ot metnion that the goverment is spending a few billion dollars for jobs that involve just this.
So...why arent we building high tech grids?

[SteveR]

Surprisingly, they make money. Not ot metnion that the goverment is spending a few billion dollars for jobs that involve just this.
So...why arent we building high tech grids?

For the same reason we gave the banks billions of dollars to refuse to lend money. It was free.

[BonzoHansen]

So...why arent we building high tech grids?Is that a rhetorical question?

I guess they are too busy solving global warming and universal HC. But I digress.

[BigAls87Z28]

The electrical companies are too busy trying to solve global warming and universal healthcare?
Again...there are billions of dollars to rebuild infrastructure...aaaaaaand they are crying that in 10-15 years, there might be enough cars on the road to put a hurt on the grid?
******** HANDRINGING and dragging down the process. Build it, or GTFO for someone who can.

[LTb1ow]

Is that a rhetorical question?

I guess they are too busy solving global warming and universal HC. But I digress.

:rofl:

Zingggggggg

[BigAls87Z28]

Zing my dick.
First off, there are several parts of the goverment that trying to help rebuild, and DOE and DOT are offering a metric **** ton of grants and loans to help with building this?
Dont make this political if it doesnt have to be. The current administration has a lot on its plate, and its just another thing to do.

[LTb1ow]

Why no zing? :|

[BigAls87Z28]

Electric companies shouldnt have to wait for the President or any goverment to hold thier hands and walk them through this. It seems that despite what the public wants (less goverment) that business is taking advantage of it 110%


BTW...Big Camaro announcement tomorrow. 90% sure its the Z28, but could be production convertable since it hasnt been shown...but its supposed to be "major" and the convertable isnt major.

Also, several cars were shown to more press and twitter'ers.
Aveo RS
2012/13 Malibu
Camaro convertable
Chevy Orlando

[LTb1ow]

Electric companies shouldnt have to wait for the President or any goverment to hold thier hands and walk them through this. It seems that despite what the public wants (less goverment) that business is taking advantage of it 110%


BTW...Big Camaro announcement tomorrow. 90% sure its the Z28, but could be production convertable since it hasnt been shown...but its supposed to be "major" and the convertable isnt major.

Also, several cars were shown to more press and twitter'ers.
Aveo RS
2012/13 Malibu
Camaro convertable
Chevy Orlando


The public doesn't want govt. healthcare, but the govt. went full steam ahead on that one...

If it won't make a company money, then why would the company do it?

If it will make them money, and they don't take advantage, then they fail, that is, last time I checked, how capitalism works and stuff.

I know capitalism is on its way out now a days, but still, try to keep up Al.
8-)

[BigAls87Z28]

Public does want healthcare reform, and for te most part do like the idea of the public option.

How do electrical companies make money? When people use them.
So....when more people use electricty...they make more money? And when they have massive brown outs, they make no money?
Sooooooo....money making is the idea?
Jobs
Money
Stronger infrastructure
Better technology
moving away from oil dependence
any losers? Just the ones that want to make it out more then it is.

[maroman88]

Public does want healthcare reform, and for te most part do like the idea of the public option.



no one that i work with or associate with agrees with that, maybe cuz we have government jobs with good healthcare?!

[NastyEllEssWon]

everyone i talk to thinks universal health carer is gonna ruin the quality of hospitals

[WildBillyT]

everyone i talk to thinks universal health carer is gonna ruin the quality of hospitals

Much more than that. But that is not what this thread is about.

[BigAls87Z28]

Ugh, Im glad the fear mongers have ****ed everyones head up with that.
Im glad everyone here knows the actual purposed law in and out, and not what Fox tells you it is.



Anyway, this seems to have just been a fart in the water. Its old news now.