View Full Version : So I finally rode in a stock 305 RS
spina74
01-13-2010, 12:26 AM
I thought they were a little bit faster. I mean it had no omph at all. It was an 89 TBI. I had a 305 RS and it had some motor work done so it kinda boogied. I kinda want one now, just to cruise around in. haha. Just thought I'd share that.
P.S. If anyone has a 92 RS they want to just sign the title over for let me know haha ;-)
Squirrel
01-13-2010, 12:47 AM
theyre like 17 second cars depending on options... my jeep took a third gen down at atco
creeper
01-13-2010, 02:08 AM
not the fastest things on the road but those things do not die. i'd drive one.
Wolfblitz
01-13-2010, 07:49 AM
I went against one down atco, wasnt impressed at all
maroman88
01-13-2010, 08:00 AM
my 88 is a 305, now carbd tho, and i got spanked by a gas f250 wen i had my 92 305tbi RS
Wolfblitz
01-13-2010, 08:07 AM
I really wasnt expecting it to be that slow, i only have a v6. I just expected a close race, not a 2.3 sec difference
WildBillyT
01-13-2010, 08:34 AM
Mid-late 70s to early 90's Fbodies won't be fast, with maybe a few exceptions. Even the 350 cars.
Frosty
01-13-2010, 09:37 AM
:rofl: What do you expect? It's a sub 200hp boat anchor of a motor in a 3400lb+ car. It's a junk motor when it comes to performance(Oh no, I hope the TBI guys on thirdgen.org don't see this! :rofl: )
sweetbmxrider
01-13-2010, 10:23 AM
305 lulz
NastyEllEssWon
01-13-2010, 10:43 AM
I really wasnt expecting it to be that slow, i only have a v6. I just expected a close race, not a 2.3 sec difference
v6's have nowhere near 2.3 seconds on a 305. a 3800 v6 will put down a low 16 second 1/4 mile at best
BonzoHansen
01-13-2010, 10:50 AM
Mid-late 70s to early 90's Fbodies won't be fast, with maybe a few exceptions. Even the 350 cars.
But it's easy to fix that. :nod:
WildBillyT
01-13-2010, 10:54 AM
v6's have nowhere near 2.3 seconds on a 305. a 3800 v6 will put down a low 16 second 1/4 mile at best
My first GP would do 15.5's with nothing but a cold air kit. And it's absolutly easy to fix the speed issues. But we are talking stock.
DaSkinnyGuy
01-13-2010, 11:04 AM
puts up a good race against a 92 firebird V6 3.1L with intake and headers
cdacda13
01-13-2010, 11:14 AM
As an owner of the wonderful LO3 motor, I'm willing to admit it has its weak points. No power being at the top of the list. But, you can not kill these motors.
Mine was beat to hell when I got it. With a small tune up (and a set of keys) it started right up. When I pulled the valve covers a year after owning it, and pulled out 3 separate chunks of carbon build up. Each being at least 1 in long by 1/2 in wide.
Overall, solid motors.
91chevywt
01-13-2010, 11:45 AM
Not much of a difference in performance between a 305 tbi and a 3.1 car of the same year. The 3.1 car will handle better and get slightly better gas mileage. The throttle body injection wasnt the problem, but more the cylinder heads and low compression
Anti_Rice_Guy
01-13-2010, 12:19 PM
v6's have nowhere near 2.3 seconds on a 305. a 3800 v6 will put down a low 16 second 1/4 mile at best
Kwischy on here has run a 15.7 with his. 3.8 auto, magnaflow catback. Not stock but I kinda doubt it was able to take 3 tenths off his time
spina74
01-13-2010, 12:37 PM
Well now that I had the experience of riding in a stock LO3 305 car, and I've driven a stock L36 3.8, and I did not feel much of a speed difference. I honestly wouldn't be able to say which car I think would win.
LTb1ow
01-13-2010, 12:37 PM
And hence, third gens suck majorly.
mc73nova
01-13-2010, 12:41 PM
I think it has decent power for what it is. You went for a ride in a 20 year old car, you cant really expect much for a stock vehicle. Like WildBilly(sorry for not knowing your actual name!)said there wasnt much power to be had in that stretch of time, in any Chevy let alone an F-body.
On that note, I cant wait to get to the track with mine to see how fast(slow!) it goes with the stock gears. According to the tag is has 2.73's, I'll go out once with it to see how it is and then throw some 3.73's in it. Its too much of a dog around town. May even go through the trans while Im at it.
ar0ck
01-13-2010, 12:53 PM
I think my motorcycle makes just as much horsepower as an LG4 Carb'd 305. And I've owned one too!
NastyEllEssWon
01-13-2010, 01:04 PM
Kwischy on here has run a 15.7 with his. 3.8 auto, magnaflow catback. Not stock but I kinda doubt it was able to take 3 tenths off his time
if he has an intake and catback then i can see it shaving a few tenths.
91chevyz28
01-13-2010, 06:16 PM
And hence, third gens suck majorly.
And why do third gens suck?
LTb1ow
01-13-2010, 06:29 PM
And why do third gens suck?
Why don't they?
deadtrend1
01-13-2010, 06:41 PM
... I hope the TBI guys on thirdgen.org don't see this! :rofl: )
thay are too busy making threads about how they just installed a open element air cleaner. Or .. are going to make this super duper intake that will give them much HP over anything else.
91chevyz28
01-13-2010, 06:56 PM
First of all they have more style than any 4th gen and I owned a 97 z28 w/ a 6 spd. Don't get me wrong the drive train in 4th gens are great but what a B%ch it is to work on. You guys are only talking about the TBI motor that were installed in pick up trucks also. What about the TPI cars? The later years,91-92, ran low 14's out of the factory. I have seen stock LT1's run the same time. I knew someone w/ a bolt on IROC, 5.7 TPI run low 13's and w/ a shot of nitrous low to mid 11's. So,again,why do 3rd gens suck?
Also we are all F-body owners. Why does it seem if you don't own a 4th gen or 1st to early 2nd gen your car is crap!
LTb1ow
01-13-2010, 06:58 PM
First of all they have more style than any 4th gen and I owned a 97 z28 w/ a 6 spd. Don't get me wrong the drive train in 4th gens are great but what a B%ch it is to work on. You guys are only talking about the TBI motor that were installed in pick up trucks also. What about the TPI cars? The later years,91-92, ran low 14's out of the factory. I have seen stock LT1's run the same time. I knew someone w/ a bolt on IROC, 5.7 TPI run low 13's and w/ a shot of nitrous low to mid 11's. So,again,why do 3rd gens suck?
Also we are all F-body owners. Why does it seem if you don't own a 4th gen or 1st to early 2nd gen your car is crap!
You are all wrong, if you don't drive a 4th gen you are in the wrong.
And if you hadn't caught on... I am arguing for arguments sake. :lol:
baddest434
01-13-2010, 07:00 PM
Why don't they?
well on this site 3rd gens will kick ass against any of your sorry ass lt/ls whatevers.
your such a hater. and your boat slow as hell :mrgreen:
Frosty
01-13-2010, 07:01 PM
I'll take my turdgen over any LT1 4thgen ANY day of the week and twice on Sunday's. The only exception "might" be a 96-97 SS...for some reason I just love them.
My car isn't anything special but I also don't have a complex about it...I could brag about it(omgz, can haz supercharger) but I'm not a douche(well at least about that :rofl: ).
deadtrend1
01-13-2010, 07:10 PM
I miss my TBI 91 bird .... and my GTA (digital dash, telescoping headrests).... :(
//<86TA>\\
01-13-2010, 07:19 PM
most people are just jealous because they dont have a 3rd gen.
FormulaKeith90
01-13-2010, 08:34 PM
get ready for your ttops to leak my car came as a hard top and the original owner got the ttops put it and they leak of course but i have all new wheather stripping for them and be careful of cracking in the body of the car twisting cause of not really any good support from the top of the car your gunna have to get sub frame connectors. and yea my moms 92 rs had a 305 and it was slowwwwwwwwww
Masonite
01-13-2010, 08:50 PM
get ready for your ttops to leak my car came as a hard top and the original owner got the ttops put it and they leak of course but i have all new wheather stripping for them and be careful of cracking in the body of the car twisting cause of not really any good support from the top of the car your gunna have to get sub frame connectors. and yea my moms 92 rs had a 305 and it was slowwwwwwwwww
Sounds like a personal problem. T-top or hard top, if the weather stripping is old, it's GOING to leak. My '88 T/A hard top leaked way more than my current '85 T/A t-top does.
Everyone's comparing the speed of a vehicle with 18-28 year old engines to 8-18 year old engines... for the most part, you're going to see an improvement as newer models come out, hands-down (with the exception of LT1's... lol). I left a stock 350 second gen in the dust with my '88... big whoop. Since a majority of forum members drive 4th gens, the 3rd gens are seen as slow, and 2nd and 1st gens are just old classics.
Wait a couple years for a few more 5th gen camaro owners to show up... then you 4th gen owners will be the snails in the group. Us third-gen'ers can go hang with the 2nd and 1st gens :-P
It's all a matter of perception.
Adam1978
01-13-2010, 09:41 PM
Mid-late 70s to early 90's Fbodies won't be fast, with maybe a few exceptions. Even the 350 cars.
now now, i wouldnt say my 78 is SLOW, i beat a 305 3rd gen with my worn little 350 lol, but...she isnt that fast lol although i figure something as simple as long tube headers duel exhaust with an x pipe should help out alot lol
spina74
01-14-2010, 12:40 AM
hmmm....note to self don't start anymore threads related to third gens, also i just found out the owner of the car is a member on the board...oops..haha sorry tim.:rollseye:
Squirrel
01-14-2010, 01:06 AM
my 4th gen, the oldest one made, ran high 13's bone stock with over 140k on the ticker...
69BirdX
01-14-2010, 11:52 AM
I miss my 91 gta but id still take the 98 over it
Anti_Rice_Guy
01-14-2010, 11:55 AM
Verts > all :D
:pimp::hitit::werdmelissa::rock::bow::dancing:
Blacdout96
01-14-2010, 12:02 PM
Ive gone 15.7 with CAI, 4:10, aluminum D/S , A/C delete, and the rest is suspension. Oh did I mention I suck at any type of drag racing, get a good driver in there, and I'm sure it may scoot a little faster down the lane ;)
NastyEllEssWon
01-15-2010, 10:51 AM
Ive gone 15.7 with CAI, 4:10, aluminum D/S , A/C delete, and the rest is suspension. Oh did I mention I suck at any type of drag racing, get a good driver in there, and I'm sure it may scoot a little faster down the lane ;)
just proves my point about the 3.8s being low 16 second cars ass stock
chrisfrom nj
01-15-2010, 01:23 PM
this is starting to become a call out thread third gens vs 4th gens and second gens im going to stick with third gens im not into 4th gens at one point i had 6 third gens in my driveway
Blacdout96
01-15-2010, 01:31 PM
3rd gens vs. 4th gen v6's?
Squirrel
01-15-2010, 02:42 PM
just proves my point about the 3.8s being low 16 second cars ass stock
mid 90's cherokees too
MonmouthCtyAntz
01-15-2010, 02:48 PM
v6's have nowhere near 2.3 seconds on a 305. a 3800 v6 will put down a low 16 second 1/4 mile at best
Not that its impressive but ive definately heard of those 3800 fbods cracking 15's stock...
Blacdout96
01-15-2010, 03:21 PM
give the right situation you could. It would probably take a Y87 packaged Camaro to pull that off wiht a really good driver, but it could be done.
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