View Full Version : Stupid post of the day...
Frosty
01-13-2010, 11:38 AM
I could probably scan thirdgen.org and have a post for every day but here goes one....
Dude has a '91 or 92 V6 thirdgen Camaro...planning....a Northstar motor swap...WHY? To each their own but with LT1 and LS1 swaps getting easier and easier by the day why would someone waste their time with an inferior motor? It's not like it'd be a direct bolt-in like a SBC.
Am I on crack or is that swap a complete waste of $$?
WildBillyT
01-13-2010, 11:47 AM
Trying to be different. Those other swaps are beat to death.
91chevywt
01-13-2010, 11:49 AM
thirdgen.org has a lot of crackheads like that. They have a v6 car and dream of one day putting in a v8. Until they realize they can buy a v8 car for not that much money, or take it all apart and realize they don't have the knowledge or money to put it back together. On a daily basis you'll see "i have a 2.8 car, what will it take to make it as fast as a v8???"
I'd be willing to bet a northstar swap isn't going to happen.
MyFirstZ
01-13-2010, 11:50 AM
i think it is an absolute waste. Even if they are beat to death still a terrbile waste of time effort and money to but a northstar v8 in
NastyEllEssWon
01-13-2010, 11:52 AM
why not. its not hurting your wallet what other people plan to do. a northstar would be kinda cool. the xlr's had northstars in them....i can see it being kinda cool
Frosty
01-13-2010, 11:58 AM
Not it's not hurting my wallet hence me saying to each their own...it's just stupid lol.
By the time he swaps it in and spend all of that $$ he could have put a better, more reliable motor in.
I don't know, it just doesn't make much sense.
WildBillyT
01-13-2010, 12:09 PM
Not it's not hurting my wallet hence me saying to each their own...it's just stupid lol.
By the time he swaps it in and spend all of that $$ he could have put a better, more reliable motor in.
I don't know, it just doesn't make much sense.
"Daring to be different" usually doesn't.
If they want to go for it, more power to them. Waste of money, yes. Taking the long way to the finish line, yes.
BonzoHansen
01-13-2010, 01:39 PM
It is either ‘I wanna be different’ or ‘I got a free engine’, lol. Problem with that engine is the limited aftermarket support.
It is a better engine than a 3rd gen V6 or 305. Might make a nice cruiser. :p
To each his own.
LTb1ow
01-13-2010, 01:41 PM
Better than an LS1.
Frosty
01-13-2010, 01:43 PM
It is either ‘I wanna be different’ or ‘I got a free engine’, lol. Problem with that engine is the limited aftermarket support.
It is a better engine than a 3rd gen V6 or 305. Might make a nice cruiser. :p
To each his own.
That's all I was saying, plus they said "they're tired of seeing LS1's swapping into thirdgens". There's a reason for it lol. Being unique doesn't make you cross the finish line first.
Someone jumped into defend him saying there's someone on TGO that has a 400hp 305CFI that gets 40mpg...not that has anything to do with the discussion but I can't wait to see the link on that info. TGO amuses me sometimes.
mtnhopper1
01-13-2010, 01:51 PM
Here's a 4th gen with Northstar.
http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15799
Here's my opinion:
- It looks pretty cool.
- If it was about what was fastest or most reliable, we would all be driving either a fox mustang (or something else lighter than a Camaro) or a Honda Civic.
I say go for it. In fact, I think those big blocky valve covers have a bit of vintage hemi hue. If I were building a "traditional" looking rod, i would look into it. I wonder if you could fab a 6-71 blower intake for one of those.
cuz its cool, and def different. i loved my northstar when i had my 95 STS. yes the aftermarket is limited but there are always tricks.
plus iirc, the northstar bolts up the the v6 bellhousing.
BonzoHansen
01-13-2010, 02:18 PM
That's all I was saying, plus they said "they're tired of seeing LS1's swapping into thirdgens". There's a reason for it lol. Being unique doesn't make you cross the finish line first.
Someone jumped into defend him saying there's someone on TGO that has a 400hp 305CFI that gets 40mpg...not that has anything to do with the discussion but I can't wait to see the link on that info. TGO amuses me sometimes.I think it's cool. It’s not always about being fastest. Not everyone likes the same stuff. Soem guys are fine with very fast bondo rides, some guys like nice-looking V6 cars. God knows there are enough cars on this site that are not something I like or stupid things that make me cringe, but whatever floats your boat.
If you get a link to this PM it to me. 400hp 305CFI that gets 40mpg - the mileage can't happen with that system, it's just not efficient enough - manifold, ecm, etc. 400hp it maybe can do. Mine had no issues running with LT1 4th gens when they were new, for those particular owners goofing on 3rd gens, as well as all stock 3rd gens. And no opti :p:p:p
LTb1ow
01-13-2010, 02:20 PM
Battle of the horrible ignition designs?
ceasefire vs opti?
:)
BonzoHansen
01-13-2010, 02:23 PM
Battle of the horrible ignition designs?
ceasefire vs opti?
:)
CFI is not an ignition. It's a poorly executed fuel system. :p
WildBillyT
01-13-2010, 02:25 PM
CFI is not an ignition. It's a poorly executed fuel system. :p
Beat me to it.
LTb1ow
01-13-2010, 02:25 PM
Boo. I thought there was a contender for the title.
:)
chrisfrom nj
01-13-2010, 02:28 PM
hows this for a swap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kl-XS4_9jU
sweetbmxrider
01-13-2010, 02:51 PM
i saw a 4th gen with a northstar. that was fun. i wouldn't wanna do it but it would be neat to see. i'm just curious what they do with the waterpump.
chrisfrom nj
01-13-2010, 02:54 PM
Here's a 4th gen with Northstar.
http://www.ls1lt1.com/forum/showthread.php?t=15799
Here's my opinion:
- It looks pretty cool.
- If it was about what was fastest or most reliable, we would all be driving either a fox mustang (or something else lighter than a Camaro) or a Honda Civic.
I say go for it. In fact, I think those big blocky valve covers have a bit of vintage hemi hue. If I were building a "traditional" looking rod, i would look into it. I wonder if you could fab a 6-71 blower intake for one of those.i agree with you it looks cool
Knipps
01-13-2010, 03:35 PM
There's a guy on another forum doing a northstar into a fiero, it looks pretty cool
Wolfblitz
01-13-2010, 03:39 PM
Might turn out to be a good Auto X car is nothing else.
69BirdX
01-13-2010, 04:14 PM
I know a gu who has a supercharged northstar in his 69 camaro. The northstar motors are bad ass
Adam1978
01-13-2010, 10:46 PM
hows this for a swap http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kl-XS4_9jU
i would love to have a 572Ci in my 'maro, although since she's my daily driver i wouldnt be able to keep up with the gas prices lol
Mark B
01-14-2010, 05:41 AM
I always wanted to put a 3.8 Supercharged V6 from a Grand Prix GTP in my third gen.... I thought it would be cool & different. Plus those motors can make nice power without alot of $. I ended up dropping a LT1 in it in the end. Cheaper and more HP out of the box.
NastyEllEssWon
01-14-2010, 06:27 AM
http://www.fquick.com/images/vehicles/full/751160010.jpg?1187233810
its been done....needs custom blower work
Blacdout96
01-14-2010, 07:47 AM
I've researched the Northstar a few occasions. I wanted to put it into my 3000GT and make it RWD. there are plus's and minus's to the Northstar.
Plus: 300HP on tap fro mthe 4.6, all aluminum, different
Minus: head bolts are fine thread so they pull out of heads, and all hell breaks loose, alot of the setups won't mate up to the bellhousing, not alot of aftermarket.
I dont think that swap is stupid at all, as long as it isnt their DD. if you have money, and an idea you can follow through, and execute it properly, who are we to judge their build idea? One day when things settle down for me I'd like to persue the Northstar in the 3000GT, and make it resemble an IMSA car.
WildBillyT
01-14-2010, 08:08 AM
I always wanted to put a 3.8 Supercharged V6 from a Grand Prix GTP in my third gen.... I thought it would be cool & different. Plus those motors can make nice power without alot of $. I ended up dropping a LT1 in it in the end. Cheaper and more HP out of the box.
Yeah, throttle body is on the wrong end though.
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