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RiggsLW81
01-14-2010, 07:58 PM
a moment frozen in history:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Chevrolet-Camaro-Iroc-Z-1985-Camaro-Live-Aid-Signature-Car-with-746-miles_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem19b937b68bQQitemZ 110481618571QQptZUSQ5fCarsQ5fTrucks

V
01-14-2010, 08:16 PM
i thought it'd be a joke, however... Very impressive

BonzoHansen
01-14-2010, 08:17 PM
Look at the names who signed it. Wow

NastyEllEssWon
01-14-2010, 08:17 PM
http://www.msclassiccars.com/85_camaro_irocz/images/1985_iroc_71.jpg




tom petty owns. he owns that 1/4 panel too :nod:

WildBillyT
01-14-2010, 08:18 PM
http://www.msclassiccars.com/85_camaro_irocz/images/1985_iroc_71.jpg




tom petty owns. he owns that 1/4 panel too :nod:

Freddie Mercury is the big deal on there IMO.

Adam1978
01-14-2010, 08:20 PM
wow, i'll take 2! i was about to laugh but its pretty legit lol

NastyEllEssWon
01-14-2010, 08:20 PM
well yeah....thats a given....its just that tom pettys name is sooooo easily recognizable there...i thought it was funny

BonzoHansen
01-14-2010, 08:26 PM
Freddie Mercury is the big deal on there IMO.

Or all 3 living members of Led Zeppelin. Clapton. Some of the Stones. Ozzy. Brian & Carl Wilson. Lots of R&R HOFs on that list

Ashford and Simpson Graham Nash
Jeff Bridges
John Oates
Chevy Chase
Rick Ocasek
Cher
Billy Ocean
Eric Clapton
Benjamin Orr
David Crosby
Ozzy Osbourne
Bo Diddley
Jimmy Page
The Four Tops
Ray Parker, Jr
Mayor Wilson Goode
Teddy Pendergrass II
Bill Graham
Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers
The Hooters
Joe Piscopo
Timothy Hutton
REO Speedwagen
Chrissie Hynde
Run DMC
Mick Jagger
Nick Rhodes
Don Johnson
Keith Richards
John Paul Jones
Carlos Santana
The Judas Priest Band
George Segal
Patti LaBelle
Rick Springfield
Ronnie Lane
Stephen Stills
Simon LeBon
Tony Thompson
Kenny Loggins
Thompson Twins
Mike Love
Brian Wilson
Marilyn McCoo
Carl Wilson
Bette Midler
Neil Young

BonzoHansen
01-14-2010, 08:26 PM
The car is perfect too. Are those aluminum drums? LOL

V
01-14-2010, 08:27 PM
tint the windows and strip the drivetrain and interior... hehe

RiggsLW81
01-14-2010, 08:32 PM
OZZY! owns the passenger door \m/

Adam1978
01-14-2010, 08:37 PM
i'd buy it and take it through a car wash

WildBillyT
01-14-2010, 08:39 PM
i'd buy it and take it through a car wash

Yeah, since you don't have a carb to deal with on an 85 IROC

:shock:

edpontiac91
01-14-2010, 08:40 PM
You have to understand that the eBay listing cost almost $253,731.12. To offset that cost, it is easy to see why the price went UP! Plus once he pays off the commission and the PayPal fee, the poor guy will be left with nothing :cry:. On a serious note, I think all the signatures detract from the car. I would love to own something like that (for a LOT LESS) without the signatures and what the hell would happen IF you somehow got into a fender bender. Of course you couldn't drive ANY classic car with 734 miles without starting to ruin its value. So it becomes a USELESS IROC with a story. :shock:

WildBillyT
01-14-2010, 08:42 PM
You have to understand that the eBay listing cost almost $253,731.12. To offset that cost, it is easy to see why the price went UP! Plus once he pays off the commission and the PayPal fee, the poor guy will be left with nothing :cry:. On a serious note, I think all the signatures detract from the car. I would love to own something like that (for a LOT LESS) without the signatures and what the hell would happen IF you somehow got into a fender bender. Of course you couldn't drive ANY classic car with 734 miles without starting to ruin its value. So it becomes a USELESS IROC with a story. :shock:

Without the signatures I'd put that car at 50k with that mileage. The signatures are a big deal since that was a huge concert in the 80s.

BigRocsFirebird
01-14-2010, 08:42 PM
woahhh, pretty cool

RiggsLW81
01-14-2010, 08:50 PM
Without the signatures I'd put that car at 50k with that mileage. The signatures are a big deal since that was a huge concert in the 80s.

I would argue to say its the biggest concert OF ALL TIME. It is still regarded as a culturally significant event all over the world.

BonzoHansen
01-14-2010, 08:53 PM
Yeah, Live Aid was quite the event Huge.

I agree, those signatures raise the value of that car a lot. That is art now, no longer a car. Sadly. I'd love to have that car sans the ink.

WildBillyT
01-14-2010, 08:53 PM
I would argue to say its the biggest concert OF ALL TIME. It is still regarded as a culturally significant event all over the world.

Size- yes. But Woodstock vs. Live Aid is a tough comparison.

ib4200
01-14-2010, 08:56 PM
i'd buy it and take it through a car wash

It was re clearcoated after they all signed it.


id say theres some documentation that comes with it too

BonzoHansen
01-14-2010, 08:57 PM
Size- yes. But Woodstock vs. Live Aid is a tough comparison.

It's different. Kind of apples & oranges.

edpontiac91
01-14-2010, 08:58 PM
Without the signatures I'd put that car at 50k with that mileage. The signatures are a big deal since that was a huge concert in the 80s.
I have seen several 3rd Gen Firebird Formulas with mileage around 1K and in showroom condition (plastic still on console and such) only get bid up to less than $7,000 and asking around $15,000 for a Buy it Now price. Even the late '80's GTA, which were the HOTTEST F-Body you could buy then do not get prices above that (in Mint Condition). If you owned one of those during that time period, you were King of the Hill in terms of performance and looks. Just imagine a Charcoal Grey exterior with the Saddle Leather interior and Gold Diamond spoke wheels with gold badges. But I digress, they were the pinnacle of design at a different era and time.

V
01-14-2010, 08:59 PM
hold on brb lol

WildBillyT
01-14-2010, 09:02 PM
I have seen several 3rd Gen Firebird Formulas with mileage around 1K and in showroom condition (plastic still on console and such) only get bid up to less than $7,000 and asking around $15,000 for a Buy it Now price. Even the late '80's GTA, which were the HOTTEST F-Body you could buy then do not get prices above that (in Mint Condition). If you owned one of those during that time period, you were King of the Hill in terms of performance and looks. Just imagine a Charcoal Grey exterior with the Saddle Leather interior and Gold Diamond spoke wheels with gold badges. But I digress, they were the pinnacle of design at a different era and time.

Were they stored properly? Digression is fine in here :D

FlyingDutchman
01-14-2010, 09:02 PM
dang id buy that in a heartbeat

edpontiac91
01-14-2010, 09:02 PM
hold on brb lol

I hope you realize that I was busting balls on the eBay fees :mrgreen:!

V
01-14-2010, 09:04 PM
I hope you realize that I was busting balls on the eBay fees :mrgreen:!

hahaha ok now i do. i didnt before, i admit it, :-D

i was like "that CANT be right" hahah

i basically stopped selling on ebay due to the stupid fees

DaSkinnyGuy
01-14-2010, 09:05 PM
For that price i rather buy this Z06 and a house here in NC, SC, FL near here for 160k you can buy a 3-4bedroom home with 2 car garage and some land

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2001-CORVETTE-Z06-LS6-6-SPEED-TOUCH-RED_W0QQitemZ180455936588QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Car s_Trucks?hash=item2a0403124c

WildBillyT
01-14-2010, 09:06 PM
For that price i rather buy this Z06 and a house here in NC, SC, FL near here for 160k you can buy a 3-4bedroom home with 2 car garage and some land

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/2001-CORVETTE-Z06-LS6-6-SPEED-TOUCH-RED_W0QQitemZ180455936588QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Car s_Trucks?hash=item2a0403124c

Not about just the car. That price buys something completely different.

DaSkinnyGuy
01-14-2010, 09:09 PM
Not about just the car. That price buys something completely different.

everyone has their own thing they like but the only way i would buy that iroc is if i had a museum with a bunch of other cars that were never going to see the road.

WildBillyT
01-14-2010, 09:10 PM
everyone has their own thing they like but the only way i would buy that iroc is if i had a museum with a bunch of other cars that were never going to see the road.

And I'd bet a guy like that is who bought it.

MyFirstZ
01-14-2010, 09:12 PM
never felt that an autograph is worth anything. O well. Def. nice though

Frosty
01-14-2010, 09:36 PM
Needs a Maaco spray bomb job. :D

I was rolling my eyes reading through the ad with the "probably" word used a few times...yeah "probably" doesn't sell a $275K car...then I saw the signatures and was like shaaaawiiiiing.

Not my cup of tea but that's pretty impressive.

LTb1ow
01-14-2010, 10:49 PM
A third gen with signatures, cool?

Still a lame third gen.




:mrgreen:

The Fixer
01-14-2010, 11:50 PM
Just imagine a Charcoal Grey exterior with the Saddle Leather interior and Gold Diamond spoke wheels with gold badges. But I digress, they were the pinnacle of design at a different era and time.

hold on brb lol

I thought you were gonna post pics of a GTA you chopped up that was just like that! :) Oh wait, that had a gray interior. ;) It's OK, that L98 is now in my Monte!

GrandmasterCow
01-14-2010, 11:55 PM
incredible !

Adam1978
01-14-2010, 11:58 PM
guys! i have an idea! WE ALL BUY THE CAR! then it could be the NJFBOA mascot!!!! huh?! huh!?

NastyEllEssWon
01-15-2010, 01:46 AM
Yeah, since you don't have a carb to deal with on an 85 IROC





:shock:

yeah that cars a 350 tpi :twisted:

I have seen several 3rd Gen Firebird Formulas with mileage around 1K and in showroom condition (plastic still on console and such) only get bid up to less than $7,000 and asking around $15,000 for a Buy it Now price. Even the late '80's GTA, which were the HOTTEST F-Body you could buy then do not get prices above that (in Mint Condition). If you owned one of those during that time period, you were King of the Hill in terms of performance and looks. Just imagine a Charcoal Grey exterior with the Saddle Leather interior and Gold Diamond spoke wheels with gold badges. But I digress, they were the pinnacle of design at a different era and time.




lol you're the last person i thought we'd hear from about overpriced thirdgens :lol:

ryanfx
01-15-2010, 07:28 AM
i'd buy it and take it through a car wash

It was mentioned in the ad that they clear coated it after it was signed. Guess reading isn't your fav five =p

JL8Jeff
01-15-2010, 07:50 AM
Pretty cool collectible and not really a car anymore. I'd think something like this would be in the original Hard Rock Cafe or some place like that to be on display.

The Fixer
01-15-2010, 11:19 AM
yeah that cars a 350 tpi :twisted:


Actually it's only a 305, the 350 wasn't available in the IROC until '87.

Wolfblitz
01-15-2010, 11:29 AM
If we all kick in $110 a piece, we can buy it lol

NastyEllEssWon
01-15-2010, 11:48 AM
Actually it's only a 305, the 350 wasn't available in the IROC until '87.





orly? just the same as you couldnt get a factory 5 speed with a 350tpi but they exist. there are 85 and 86 350 tpi's out there

WildBillyT
01-15-2010, 12:24 PM
orly? just the same as you couldnt get a factory 5 speed with a 350tpi but they exist. there are 85 and 86 350 tpi's out there

I would not open that can of worms. There is a LOT that's involved in proving that something was truly factory vs. hearsay.

Frosty
01-15-2010, 12:27 PM
orly? just the same as you couldnt get a factory 5 speed with a 350tpi but they exist. there are 85 and 86 350 tpi's out there

:bs: Show me a FACTORY 85 Fbody and a L98/B2L RPO code or ANY FACTORY L98/T5 thirdgen....everyone seems to know someone who had one or knows a cousin's, roommates, dentist who talked to a guy who knew a drug dealer that had one. I've been involved in turdgens for over 12yrs now and have debunked EVERY single L98/T5 claim. I've yet to see an RPO sheet that shows that combo.

WildBillyT
01-15-2010, 12:34 PM
:bs: Show me a FACTORY 85 Fbody and a L98/B2L RPO code or ANY FACTORY L98/T5 thirdgen....everyone seems to know someone who had one or knows a cousin's, roommates, dentist who talked to a guy who knew a drug dealer that had one. I've been involved in turdgens for over 12yrs now and have debunked EVERY single L98/T5 claim. I've yet to see an RPO sheet that shows that combo.

Even then it can still be a fraud.

NastyEllEssWon
01-15-2010, 12:34 PM
ive seen it personally with my own eyes. it belonged to a guy out in cream ridge...he had it for sale awhile back. 1985 camaro iroc, ttops, 350 tpi and factory 5 speed. had the rpo sheet right in the console. pity i dont have pics.


its red with black louvers on the hatch.

WildBillyT
01-15-2010, 12:36 PM
ive seen it personally with my own eyes. it belonged to a guy out in cream ridge...he had it for sale awhile back. 1985 camaro iroc, ttops, 350 tpi and factory 5 speed. had the rpo sheet right in the console. pity i dont have pics.


its red with black louvers on the hatch.

That is a pity. That would be 1/10th of what is acutally involved in proving something like this to be true.

Frosty
01-15-2010, 12:37 PM
Sorry man, it's not that I'm saying you're lying but to not only take the phantom combo of a L98/T5 but to throw in that it's an '85 when the only documentation was a few test mules in '86...I don't know....

NastyEllEssWon
01-15-2010, 12:40 PM
lol i still know where the guy lives....think it would be a little rude to knock on his door asking him questions about it 5 years later ??? :lol:

WildBillyT
01-15-2010, 12:40 PM
lol i still know where the guy lives....think it would be a little rude to knock on his door asking him questions about it 5 years later ??? :lol:

Even then. A lot of legwork will have to be done to prove it's real.

BonzoHansen
01-15-2010, 12:41 PM
Go get a pic of the RPO, which has the vin, then we go to gm and get it run. problem solved. I call BS on it.

WildBillyT
01-15-2010, 12:58 PM
Go get a pic of the RPO, which has the vin, then we go to gm and get it run. problem solved. I call BS on it.

Chances are you can get a plant manager at Van Nuys to call BS. It wasn't that long ago.

NastyEllEssWon
01-15-2010, 01:56 PM
yeah well like i said....i know the car i saw...if anyone wants to prove me wrong we can take a small ride out to cream ridge and we can go on a fishing expedition

Frosty
01-15-2010, 01:59 PM
we can go on a fishing expedition

hmmm, fresh water bass.

BonzoHansen
01-15-2010, 02:24 PM
hmmm, fresh water bass.

http://paxarcana.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/bassomatic.jpg

Frosty
01-15-2010, 02:37 PM
:rofl:

sweetbmxrider
01-15-2010, 03:25 PM
i'd love to see it taken to maaco and murdered out yo

WildBillyT
01-15-2010, 03:42 PM
yeah well like i said....i know the car i saw...if anyone wants to prove me wrong we can take a small ride out to cream ridge and we can go on a fishing expedition

Not the way things like this work. People who make the claim have the burden of proof.

BonzoHansen
01-15-2010, 04:37 PM
Not the way things like this work. People who make the claim have the burden of proof.

So NastyEllEssWon, that means proof or STFU on this topic.

It's as stupid as the idiots that think there was 1 1975 Z28 because they might have built a single test car. That does not count!

WildBillyT
01-15-2010, 04:48 PM
So NastyEllEssWon, that means proof or STFU on this topic.

It's as stupid as the idiots that think there was 1 1975 Z28 because they might have built a single test car. That does not count!

If you want a rough story, take a look at the L89 1970 Nova.


1.) Had a resto by the "Dream Car Garage" crew up in Canada
2.) Had a correct drivetrain except for possibly "incorrect" heads
3.) Has a protect-o-plate
4.) Has the correct coded block
5.) Has all the original running gear

Is considered one of none due to no doc by GM, and the fact that the plant mgr at Tonawanda said FU we never made one.


These days pretty much any and all paperwork and ID stampings are forged, to the point where people call in forensic scientists to lift numbers off of engine blocks. The fact that the RPO sheet is considered 100% valid and a deciding factor is laughable.

V
01-15-2010, 04:54 PM
ive heard claims of factory 350/t5 cars for over a decade now. I have never came across a legit one nor seen proof of one, nor cut one up.

What I HAVE seen were cars that were brand new bought from dealerships with a 350 and then had a t5 trans DEALER INSTALLED and still sold "NEW". Some paperwork says 350/T5, but it only goes as far back as to the dealer.

edpontiac91
01-15-2010, 05:09 PM
ive heard claims of factory 350/t5 cars for over a decade now. I have never came across a legit one nor seen proof of one, nor cut one up.

What I HAVE seen were cars that were brand new bought from dealerships with a 350 and then had a t5 trans DEALER INSTALLED and still sold "NEW". Some paperwork says 350/T5, but it only goes as far back as to the dealer.

Somehow I think this thread went a LITTLE off course. :shock:

LTb1ow
01-15-2010, 05:12 PM
Nastiest of pwnage!

V
01-15-2010, 05:16 PM
BTW, the auction was ended, it still had 19 days to go... dunno whats up...

Slo86Bird
01-15-2010, 07:55 PM
imagine someone buys it and they have a daughter and her and her little friends take like forks and start carving their names. lol.

IROCZman15
01-24-2010, 04:26 AM
woah! thats crazy, i didnt know that even existed. wow under 1000 miles on the thing. insane

PolarBear
01-24-2010, 10:54 AM
nor cut one up.


:kneeslap: :rofl: