T-Tops or Convertable???

[Wolfblitz]

I need to know pro's and cons of both. Found 2 T/A's for the same price. Both Royal blue metallic. One is a convertable, one has t tops. Any info would be great.

[JL8Jeff]

Based on how annoying my t-tops leaking today were, I would go with either a hardtop or a convertable, t-tops suk. They rattle in the cold, leak in the rain and birds can still crap in the car if you leave them off! :nod:

[JerzLT1]

chicks dig convertibles

[LTb1ow]

Verts are gay and stalkers ride in them.

Ttops leak as pointed out.

Hardtops are FTW.

[fmybody]

T-tops:
Pros
-chicks also dig
-best off both worlds
-looks better IMO
-lighter (i think)
-handles better (just made up) lool (but it makes sense)
-uhmmm can look thru it like a window? (chicks dig that) lol
-just plain retro cool
Cons:
-almost all leak dont care what u say (even a little)
-annoying to put on and take off
-can get very hot in summer when trying to take on and put off
-thats it

VERT
PROS:
-looks rad with top down
-chicks dig
-thats it.
Cons:
-never had one so dont read this so seriously
-ugly with top up
-can tear
-can get stained/dirty
-more moving parts to break
-ugly coolors like tan
-uhmmm more vonorable to theft? (can just cut thru?)
-thats all it got

:D

[Czop418]

Go with t-tops bro you wont be dissapointed. Unless it rains :)

[BurninrubberGT]

http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42777&highlight=Ttop

not all ttops leak btw


Verts are gay and stalkers ride in them.

:rofl:

[fmybody]

http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42777&highlight=Ttop

not all ttops leak btw

yeah huh! u just dont know about it.. it prob leaks alittle tiny bit when ur not lookin then dries up..:nod:

:jk:

[Wolfblitz]

Well, i'm in a hard top bird now so anything is better then this heat trap

[Czop418]

99.8 Percent leak you just have to find where the water goes. My t-tops arent like a waterfall like other people says about there's , but after a storm if you pull up the bucket seat you find that my carpet is a lil damp.

[KirkEvil]

you should be looking at the pros and cons of the condition of the two cars in question.


then buy the one with t tops.

[B4C]

My windows leak not my t-tops I need to adjust them...you remember when I had the vert...Pure awosomeness!!! Well other than the lake in the back seat from the top drain that was clogged with pine needles. That top was down at all times no need for a/c, but I do like the t-tops as well they are nice you cant go wrong with either lol

[Adam1978]

I would go T-Tops, verts have a lot of noise when driving down the highway with the top up, same with the top down but duh lol,
Although as you saw t-tops leak, however they are just so cool! Plus I believe the body is more rigid

[Czop418]

Yea I agree with Kirk Evil. You should really doing more research about the car. If you could post up the ads for the both of them.

[B4C]

:drool:
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r257/BrokeChevy/DSCF2090.jpg
:drool:
http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r257/BrokeChevy/1-25-10%20Pics/IMG_1162.jpg
Vert...cough...cough...
This is the one link he semt me of the t-top car
http://comcast.vehix.com/inventory/VehicleDetails.aspx?sellerid=5F00000003528D&zip=08094&radius=300&condition=Used&smodel=Firebird&make=Pontiac&Limit=24&SearchPagePosition=6&inventoryid=77000001A3FEF0&N=127%2B4294966726%2B4294964347&path=%253FLimit%253D25%2526N%253D127%25252B4294966 726%25252B4294964347%2526Nf%253DpLocation%25257CGC LT%25252039.6650009155273%25252C-74.9783020019531%25252056.327145%2526PostalCode%25 3D08094%2526RadiusInMiles%253D300

[91chevywt]

I'm not a fan of convertables at all. I'd take t-tops over anything, hardtop second, and I wouldnt buy a convertable. They just look akward compared to the smooth look of a hardtop. Get a convertable with some wear and it will leak worse than t-tops. The rattling would be annoying too.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

I'd take more into account than the type of top it has on it, for one thing.

That aside, if they were in the same condition.....*points to sig*

Unless you're going to have a biased race car where weight and rigidity really matters, I would go convertible.

The 95 is still on it's original top, not a single leak, ever. Can't say the same for our old t-top'd 92 Formula back when it was only 6 years old. Treat the top once in a while, and you're set. Top down cruising is unlike any other, whether or not you're trying to pick up chicks. T-tops are just convertible wannabes but don't have the balls to fully get one :lol:

Any other specific questions about convertibles you have, fire away. Also important to note...if you forget to latch a t-top it flies off and goes bye bye, possibly hitting your car or other cars. Convertibles don't have this issue, it simply goes back where it belongs if you don't latch it :wink:

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y218/nrfania/chicksdigcam.gif

[Wolfblitz]

Tool in a tux lol. But i do remember looking like a lobster after borrowing that car for a week

[B4C]

Tool in a tux lol. But i do remember looking like a lobster after borrowing that car for a week

:lol:Yeah we were both burnt as hell 8-) but you remember how awosome it was crusing in that car just dont get a vert thats sat under a pine tree for extended peroids of time like my uncles

[Czop418]

Hye if you wanna spend that kind of cash get this one. Its a anniversary eddtion WS6

http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/1556390169.html

[ws6 jim]

The convertibles weigh more cost more and have more parts to fail. Nj is a 4 season state go with hard or t-top if its a dd.

[BigRocsFirebird]

knock on wood.. my t-tops don't leak. IMO t-tops are better on some cars than verts but hey, that's just me

[Masonite]

http://www.automedia.com/NewCarBuyersGuide/photos/2005/Chrysler/Sebring/Convertible/2005_Chrysler_Sebring_ext_1.jpg

oh yeah... that's sexy...

:rofl:

[B4C]

Wow that joke isnt old :lol: Rocky I think your t-tops dont leak cuz you dont haz torque lol :p Oh I saw ur friend with the Saleen today BTW lol

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

(sebring picture)

oh yeah... that's sexy...

:rofl:

He said Pontiac, not LS1 camaro.

http://www.ws6.hpstudios.com/trans%20am%20on%20alki%2005.jpg

[MyFirstZ]

if you take care of the weather stripping you really won't see a problem with leaking, i have had maybe a few droplets come through. That is only when im driving and the rain is being pushed from the wind as it follws the contour of the top of the window. You can also get the shades in the summe to keep some heat out.

never owned a vert camaro, but the vette that we have is rag it is cool having the top down, specially in the summer nights (but so is my camaro t-ttops) and you get a litte more attention. Not sure if the camaro rag tops are power but if not they can be just as annoying as having to put it down or up as the vette.

yet to see a girl who enjoys the rag top or the ttop, i alwayhs see them rolling up the window to stop there hair from blowing around.

IMHO i love my t-tops would never trade them for a vert or hard top.

[maroman88]

my ta's ttops dont leak a drop!... my third gens have been a diff story lol

if its a daily driver go with ttops... weekend fun car go for a vert

[Wolfblitz]

Now that looks beautiful

[CHRIS67]

Loving on some T tops.

:se:

[V]

ttop

[JL8Jeff]

The biggest downsides to a convertible is that wherever you park it, someone can cut the top to break into it in 1 second so you can't really leave anything in the car and you do have to be aware of where you're parking. And, eventually the top will start to wear out and you have that replacement cost. I've had about 4-5 first gen convertibles and it's cool for a weekend car, but a pita for a daily driver. The body will flex more and there is more road noise. Hardtop is the way to go, especially for a daily driver.

[T69SS]

Definitely go t-top or even hard top

[sweetbmxrider]

He said Pontiac, not LS1 camaro.

("pontiac pic"

http://www.impactlab.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/triceratops_big.jpg

pontiac dinosaur....erm vert

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Never liked vert Fbodies.

[The Fixer]

http://www.automedia.com/NewCarBuyersGuide/photos/2005/Chrysler/Sebring/Convertible/2005_Chrysler_Sebring_ext_1.jpg

oh yeah... that's sexy...

:rofl:

The 1st-gen Sebring 'verts looked MUCH better. Here's a pic of my 2000 back in '01 before it was totalled.

http://www.bowtiepower.com/images/sebring.jpg

Convertibles are definitely FTW if it's a fun/weekend car. I only had my Sebring for 6 months before the wreck so I can't comment on winter driving/snow issues, but it only leaked a few drops in heavy rain.

[NastyEllEssWon]

none of the 4th gens ive encountered had leaking ttops. thirdgens like said before are another story. you cant go wrong either way. the convertible top really is nice though, unlatch and push a button...bam top down fun. ttops arent a big deal to take off either. most people are just lazy. takes 2 seconds.

[BurninrubberGT]

we already proved its ttops, hardtop, vert, in that order (nick just cant accept it)

[j0n]

As much as I absolutely DESPISE agreeing with stalker Nick... Convertibles really are where it's at. Those who have not experienced a fun, fast, droptop will likely never understand.

[B4C]

we already proved its vert, ttops, hardtop, in that order (nick is just right on this one)

Fixed :nod:

[sweetbmxrider]

http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42777&highlight=hardtop

/thread

[BurninrubberGT]

Fixed :nod:

http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42777&highlight=Ttop

http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=42777&highlight=hardtop

/thread

:wink:

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

:wink:

You realize that B4c is on my side and fixed it to say "convertible, t-top, hardtop" right? Fail :mrgreen:

[B4C]

You realize that B4c is on my side and fixed it to say "convertible, t-top, hardtop" right? Fail :mrgreen:

No he dosent:lol: Verts FTMFW!!

[BurninrubberGT]

You realize that B4c is on my side and fixed it to say "convertible, t-top, hardtop" right? Fail :mrgreen:

obviously why i posted proof that even hardtop is better than vert

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

obviously why i posted proof that even hardtop is better than vert

See his above post. that was his ranking system
1. vert
2. t-top
3. hardtop

Fail again

[B4C]

we already proved its vert, ttops, hardtop, in that order (nick is just right on this one)

Reading FTW :lol:

[LTb1ow]

And verts ftl.

[Featherburner]

One or the other, convertible or hardtop. T-tops are lame.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

One or the other, convertible or hardtop.

THANK YOU

[SilverDropTop]

I never had a vert until I got my SS. I'm very happy with my decision.

[fmybody]

why isnt this a poll??

[WildBillyT]

why isnt this a poll??

It was a poll the first 3 or 4 times it came up.

[fmybody]

It was a poll the first 3 or 4 times it came up.

haha good call.

[redsoxsstink]

t-tops most def. mine dont leak, i dont think they ever will if you maintain the weather striping. plus it the best of both worlds, it looks better than a vert ride smoother than a vert and you still get the wind in your hair feel. plus its awesome having your whole roof being glass. if the sun bothers your thta much that you need to covers i recommend you get a hard top lol

[B4C]

Or you could tint them like mine are

[BurninrubberGT]

See his above post. that was his ranking system
1. vert
2. t-top
3. hardtop

Fail again

you have to be blind


why isnt this a poll??

the link is posted 4 times in this thread to the last poll :lol:

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

you have to be blind

I believe that would be you, since a few posts above, he stated that he agrees with me. On the first page, he also posted pictures of his uncle's? vert and states how awesome it is. :wink:

[BurninrubberGT]

I believe that would be you, since a few posts above, he stated that he agrees with me. On the first page, he also posted pictures of his uncle's? vert and states how awesome it is. :wink:
and i posted the link to prove him wrong, its really that simple :moon:

[B4C]

Dude verts rock have you ever had one? No dosent sound like it. Drop the top and go for a drive if you ever have the chance to get behind the wheel of one. Yes antirice that's my uncles car he let me borrow it, wanted a vert ever since the top was always down as long at it wasn't raining lol samething goes for the t-tops on my car always off as long as there's not rain and it isn't 20* out. Anyway op (Justin) vert! You remember riding in my uncles car when I had it.

[Wolfblitz]

I remember looking like a lobster after 6 hour drives to nowhere lol. But i'm looking at both cars this weekend so i'll be comming home with one of them within the next couple of weeks. Still have to sell the other Firebird.

[Mark42]

Just to toss my two cents in...

My 1996 Camaro with T tops never leaked. Not even a little bit. But then again, I ordered it new, and no one else got to screw with it before me. Also, there are built in drain channels for water that gets past the outer seals, they need to be kept clean.

But if you look, a vert has a higher resale value, and are considered the preferred vehicle over t-tops in the automobile industry.

I think the best would be a vert with a removable hard top. Don't think anyone makes one, but it would be the best setup.

[fmybody]

Just to toss my two cents in...

My 1996 Camaro with T tops never leaked. Not even a little bit. But then again, I ordered it new, and no one else got to screw with it before me. Also, there are built in drain channels for water that gets past the outer seals, they need to be kept clean.

But if you look, a vert has a higher resale value, and are considered the preferred vehicle over t-tops in the automobile industry.

I think the best would be a vert with a removable hard top. Don't think anyone makes one, but it would be the best setup.

+1 i like the bmw's that are like that.. and yeah i dont think they make them for f-bodies.

[Wolfblitz]

Well, i asked my gf and she said vert......think that kinda seals it lol. And its good for going to the shore in the summer.

[LTb1ow]

Well, i asked my gf and she said vert......think that kinda seals it lol. And its good for going to the shore in the summer.

So much fail in this. :|

[RiggsLW81]

wow, she gets the choice for your car? do ya wipe her ass too?

[NastyEllEssWon]

nothing wrong with having a gf influence what kind of car you buy. especially if its a serious relationship thats not going anywhere anytime soon. cause if she says buy a vert and he gets ttops then everytime he gets out to put the tops in the trunk she's gonna say ''see i told you we shouldve got the convertible...rah rah rah rah.''




anyway....i digress. i wasnt a fan of verts till i owned my first convertible. fun little rx7 :lol:

[Slow-V6]

T-tops are my choice.Just get some subframe connectors on it and That will help out a little with future leaking. Are the T/a's TPI, LT1 or LS1 cars?

[RiggsLW81]

i completely disagree. unless shes contributing financially to the purchase, it is 100% YOUR CHOICE. buy what feels right FOR YOU.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Woot! You won't be sorry, and we'll get another vert on the boards!

[LTb1ow]

Woot! You will be sorry, and we'll get another gay/stalker on the boards!

So straightforward Nick. :|

[sweetbmxrider]

shore! :fistpump:

[Wolfblitz]

She lets me work on her car so i dont have to feel like a tool rideing in it, and i'll let her have a say in the car lol. I dont see us breaking up anytime soon. After 5 years its pretty solid..... And both are LS1 cars :drool:

[BonzoHansen]

i completely disagree. unless shes contributing financially to the purchase, it is 100% YOUR CHOICE. buy what feels right FOR YOU.

HEY! Every teenager makes this mistake, it what they do. :lol:

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

So straightforward Nick. :|

I do what I can.

[fmybody]

lol my gf didnt like my choice at first. then she went with me to go look at it before we bought it and the whole ride home she was smiling and saying VROOM VROOM! lol like a little kid.

i didnt care i was getting it regardless :)

[Wolfblitz]

I like both cars, if the vert falls through or gets sold then i'll just get the other. Same car, same engine, just difference in top.

[BurninrubberGT]

Dude verts rock have you ever had one? No dosent sound like it. Drop the top and go for a drive if you ever have the chance to get behind the wheel of one. Yes antirice that's my uncles car he let me borrow it, wanted a vert ever since the top was always down as long at it wasn't raining lol samething goes for the t-tops on my car always off as long as there's not rain and it isn't 20* out. Anyway op (Justin) vert! You remember riding in my uncles car when I had it.

I have been in a couple different verts, I didn't like them with top up or with the top down

[FormulaKeith90]

go with ttops looks much better gives it a more bad ass look if thats what your looking for i mean who isnt. verts are gay and look gay there for old men with hair that blows in the wind and listen to duran duran driving to the shore hahaha

[B4C]

No this is what we rock in the vert lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djV11Xbc914
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG_6CopW9GQ
To each there own but verts are awosome.

[Wolfblitz]

Epic Song ! ! ! !

[fmybody]

this is why verts are wack ahahaha

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUkD4CY7YAQ

[Slow-V6]

Let me know if you are selling you V6. I might have to pick it up and build up another V6 car. I miss beating down C6's in a V6 firebird!!

And since they are LS1 T/a's I think you can only get a Ttop or Vert. They didnt make Hardtop LS1 T/A's.

[RiggsLW81]

im not a teenager, just for the record.

buying what you want has nothing to do with age...its just being true to yourself. go with your gut.

[Mark42]

Convertibles are cool. I especially like the roof line and having a trunk, making the car a real coupe. Never did like the whole hatchback style. Camaro's and Firebirds were not created as hatch back's they were real coupes with trunks.

I was glad to see the hatchback design was dropped for the 2010 model.

[BonzoHansen]

im not a teenager, just for the record.

buying what you want has nothing to do with age...its just being true to yourself. go with your gut.

No, the OP is. Buying based on what a girl might like is something a teen aged boy does.


edit: see Riggs, look at the next post!

[Wolfblitz]

Well, seeing as how she has to drive it to i would rather her have something she might take a lil slower b/c she's afraid of it with the top down.

[WildBillyT]

Well, seeing as how she has to drive it to i would rather her have something she might take a lil slower b/c she's afraid of it with the top down.

No offense. She is your girlfriend, not your wife. Do not let a girlfriend steer your financial moves.

[SilverDropTop]

No offense. She is your girlfriend, not your wife. Do not let a girlfriend steer your financial moves.

Amen brother. On a side note, I love my convertible and would not trade it for a T-Top car. On a TA though, I would not buy a convertible. I absolutely hate the wing on the TA Verts.....many people have tried to swap it out for the normal TA wing with few being successful (and looking decent). That's just me.

[NastyEllEssWon]

No offense. She is your girlfriend, not your wife. Do not let a girlfriend steer your financial moves.




exactly the reason i said to make sure the relationship is solid and going somewhere. dead end gf's influences are a no-no, but a 5 year relationship going strong might be a different story

[WildBillyT]

exactly the reason i said to make sure the relationship is solid and going somewhere. dead end gf's influences are a no-no, but a 5 year relationship going strong might be a different story

She can turn and run tomorrow with no issue even at 10 years. You can listen to what she has to say but do not let her have a say in the decision making.

[BurninrubberGT]

Recent studies show 78.43% of girls prefer ttops over verts :D

[NastyEllEssWon]

Recent studies show 78.43% of girls prefer ttops over verts :D




recent studies show that 80 percent of statistics are false.... :lol:

[BonzoHansen]

exactly the reason i said to make sure the relationship is solid and going somewhere. dead end gf's influences are a no-no, but a 5 year relationship going strong might be a different story

in general (not a shot at the OP) a 5 year relationship for a 19 year is not something I'd hang my hat on. Their lives haven't really started yet.

[NastyEllEssWon]

in general (not a shot at the OP) a 5 year relationship for a 19 year is not something I'd hang my hat on. Their lives haven't really started yet.




lol i wasnt aware the person we were speaking of was 19.

[BonzoHansen]

lol i wasnt aware the person we were speaking of was 19.

user public profile FTW

[LTb1ow]

user public profile FTW

Ok Nick.

[BonzoHansen]

Ok Nick.

no, that's just easy to do, click the username, select public profile and wal-la! nick would have his ssn, dental records & school permanent record. :lol:

[LTb1ow]

no, that's just easy to do, click the username, select public profile and wal-la! nick would have his ssn, dental records & school permanent record. :lol:

Everyone starts somewhere. :wink:

[Slow-V6]

Isnt there stricter rules for verts at the track?

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

no, that's just easy to do, click the username, select public profile and wal-la! nick would have his ssn, dental records & school permanent record. :lol:

I am not up to Paul's level yet!

Isnt there stricter rules for verts at the track?

Yes. Need a rollbar a lot sooner. He doesn't imply to be racing at the track, however, and it is easily remediated anyway.

[V]

I am not up to Paul's level yet!





lol, just to share... this was one of my better ones...
http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=31958
...i chime in towards the bottom of the first page, after 5 posts, that user never came back....

[Wolfblitz]

No matter what i get, its an LS1 car. Big step up over the 3.8 that i'm driving now.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Top down visibility is second to none....ZERO blind spots. :)

[NastyEllEssWon]

Top down visibility is second to none....ZERO blind spots. :)





this is true.

[Slow-V6]

No matter what i get, its an LS1 car. Big step up over the 3.8 that i'm driving now.

You put a turbo on your V6 and you will have LS1 power at a 1/3 of the price of buying a T/A. The car will also weigh 300 lbs less then a TTop T/A and 400 lbs less then a Vert!!

[Slow-V6]

Top down visibility is second to none....ZERO blind spots. :)

I just have to ask. How did you get your 95 to dyno almost 300 rwhp with just a couple of mods?

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

I just have to ask. How did you get your 95 to dyno almost 300 rwhp with just a couple of mods?

Installed parts. Drove to dyno. Pull up to rollers, make 3 runs in 3rd gear, profit. :lol:


I do think it is slightly optimistic, yes, but that's what it said. Mustang dyno.

[Slow-V6]

Installed parts. Drove to dyno. Pull up to rollers, make 3 runs in 3rd gear, profit. :lol:


I do think it is slightly optimistic, yes, but that's what it said. Mustang dyno.



You have a freak of a car! Our Firehawk Dynoed in at 272 Rwhp. It basically has a Intake and Cat back from the factory.

[Wolfblitz]

Did not expect this to get to 5 pages lol

[Slow-V6]

Thats what happens when it is 4 degrees outside on a Friday night!!

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Did not expect this to get to 5 pages lol

You highly underestimate the power of NJFBOA :lol:

[V]

Thats what happens when it is 4 degrees outside on a Friday night!!


well for me...

http://i32.photobucket.com/albums/d50/SmokingSS/temp.jpg

[BurninrubberGT]

nicks dream car has ttops

just saying...

[Wolfblitz]

Well, winter storm warning...dont know if i want to drive 60 miles just to get trapped lol.