Hoping for 11's Wed night

[3.4 grape of wrath]

I'm planning on hitting the drag strip Wed night to try and lower my best time of a 12.573@107. My car is a 94 3.4 liter turboed camaro. I should better my best et if everything holds up. I'm running 15lbs of boost but have never left the line with boost. After upgrading my brakes I can now hold 5lbs of boost on the line.

[sweetbmxrider]

nice man. that 3.4 is quite impressive

[98tadriver]

hell yeah, good luck dude, hope u achieve ur goal!

[92REDBIRD]

Is that a stock motor tuned to the turbo?

[mc73nova]

Good luck. What kind of brakes are you using? What did you do to them?

[baddest434]

good luck man!

[T69SS]

Very nice, good luck!

[3.4 grape of wrath]

Is that a stock motor tuned to the turbo?

I installed a custom ground cam and roller rockers in the motor everything else is stock. The intake was also made.

[3.4 grape of wrath]

Good luck. What kind of brakes are you using? What did you do to them?

I upgraded to ls1 brakes and installed a hydroboost set up.

[3.4 grape of wrath]

Good news bad news from last night.
Good news not too many people were there. Weather was good and cool.
The car ran awesome nothing broke. Won two out of three races.
Bad news could not hook up all night. The car was performing so good it would just spin the tires. I lowered the nitto's all the way down to 15 psi and still could not get traction. No video's.

!st run 13.386@106.53 60' 2.343
2nd run 14.356@106.40 60' 2.541
3rd run 13.063@106.66 60' 2.080

[blue z]

sorry to hear that yea those 60fts are killing u

[NJ346]

even with the bad 60', your mph seems to indicate your still gonne be in the hunt for 11's for a while...

[01blackz28]

even with the bad 60', your mph seems to indicate your still gonne be in the hunt for 11's for a while...

I agree but if he can only leave on 5 lbs thats still pretty impressive. Too bad you couldn't thow a th350 in the car leave on the brake with a 2-step. You would definately need some better tires if you planned on that though.

[3.4 grape of wrath]

What tires would you recommend? Any other suggestions to make the rear dig in. I have a bmr torque arm, lakewood lca with relocation brackets set at lowest setting, adjustable panhard bar, stock sway bar, stock shocks and v6 coils with passenger side air bag set at 15psi. The rear is out of a 94 z28 with 3:42 gears.

[LTb1ow]

MT ET streets, and some stiffer shocks.

[3.4 grape of wrath]

MT ET streets, and some stiffer shocks.

What size MT's?

[Zero4488]

even with the bad 60', your mph seems to indicate your still gonne be in the hunt for 11's for a while...

agree'd...especially with a turbo car....try getting a set of M/T ET streets and you'll be good....depending on rim size 26x10.5x16 should do you good....also what kinda converter? Might need to go alittle looser....what kind of tune is on the car? Do you know what your AFR's are?

[3.4 grape of wrath]

I have an edge 3200 stall converter. Afr's around 11.5 to 12.

[mc73nova]

I would agree, I have had them on several cars and they work great. I have a set on my Nova now. Do you have disc or drum in the rear?

[Slow-V6]

How much does your car weigh? Your trapping 107 then you car is probably making around 300rwhp right? What was your 60' on your 12.5 pass? It must have been around a 1.7-1.8 60' since usually 1 tenth off your 60' is close to 2 tenths off your ET and you cut a 2.08 and ran a 13.06. That means you will need to cut a 1.5 60' to get close to a 11 second pass with your curent setup! It might just be easier to get an 11 second time with more boost!!

I was in the same boat as you with my V6. Kept getting ****** 60's When I tried to spray out of the hole. When I did cut a good 60 it broke my Rear end. My best pass was a 12.8@118mph with a 2.2 60' without spraying in 1st gear. My car made 370 rwhp and weighed in at 3450 with me in it. I was happy with that pass because of the MPH. My roomate ran a 11.8@118 in his superchaged heads and cams 01 GT mustang and my V6 with heads cam and nitrous trapped the same MPH as his car did!

[3.4 grape of wrath]

I would agree, I have had them on several cars and they work great. I have a set on my Nova now. Do you have disc or drum in the rear?

Disc brakes.

[3.4 grape of wrath]

How much does your car weigh? Your trapping 107 then you car is probably making around 300rwhp right? What was your 60' on your 12.5 pass? It must have been around a 1.7-1.8 60' since usually 1 tenth off your 60' is close to 2 tenths off your ET and you cut a 2.08 and ran a 13.06. That means you will need to cut a 1.5 60' to get close to a 11 second pass with your curent setup! It might just be easier to get an 11 second time with more boost!!

I was in the same boat as you with my V6. Kept getting ****** 60's When I tried to spray out of the hole. When I did cut a good 60 it broke my Rear end. My best pass was a 12.8@118mph with a 2.2 60' without spraying in 1st gear. My car made 370 rwhp and weighed in at 3450 with me in it. I was happy with that pass because of the MPH. My roomate ran a 11.8@118 in his superchaged heads and cams 01 GT mustang and my V6 with heads cam and nitrous trapped the same MPH as his car did!

My 60ft was 1.832 on my 12.5 pass.

[mc73nova]

Disc brakes.

You are better off with drum brakes if you are foot braking with it. I was told by many foot brake racers that drums are better for static holding. I swapped the stock Camaro rear disc set up back to stock drums on my Nova after they told me and it holds much better at the line. I got another 1000 RPM at the line. Unless you have a high performance aftermarket set up, like Wilwood.

[3.4 grape of wrath]

You are better off with drum brakes if you are foot braking with it. I was told by many foot brake racers that drums are better for static holding. I swapped the stock Camaro rear disc set up back to stock drums on my Nova after they told me and it holds much better at the line. I got another 1000 RPM at the line. Unless you have a high performance aftermarket set up, like Wilwood.

I have hydroboost brakes which I just installed they can handle the power it's just the tires that are letting lose.

[Zero4488]

I have hydroboost brakes which I just installed they can handle the power it's just the tires that are letting lose.

Thats why your gunna need some mickey's and a bigger converter......you'll drop time off your 60' and you'll hook.....

[01blackz28]

I have an edge 3200 stall converter. Afr's around 11.5 to 12.

Forced induction setups 11-11.5 is ideal AFR, 12 is a bit lean. Do you have the wideband graph from the dyno?

Thats why your gunna need some mickey's and a bigger converter......you'll drop time off your 60' and you'll hook.....
You need to see what the car does with traction before you tell him he needs a looser converter.
edit: Is your car spinning so bad that it is shifting into 2nd?

[3.4 grape of wrath]

Forced induction setups 11-11.5 is ideal AFR, 12 is a bit lean. Do you have the wideband graph from the dyno?


You need to see what the car does with traction before you tell him he needs a looser converter.
edit: Is your car spinning so bad that it is shifting into 2nd?

I'm not concerned about the tune the car runs great. It's just the traction issue that's holding me back.

[Slow-V6]

How about adding a 50 shot of Nitrous for the top end? I dont see you cutting less then a 1.6 60' and with that you should run a 12.3 or so. I still think that if you want to hit an 11 your gonna need more power or less weight!!

[3.4 grape of wrath]

How about adding a 50 shot of Nitrous for the top end? I dont see you cutting less then a 1.6 60' and with that you should run a 12.3 or so. I still think that if you want to hit an 11 your gonna need more power or less weight!!

I would be happy with low 12's. I really don't want to mess with nitrous (not that there's anything wrong with it) but not for me.

[12secondv6]

I ran HAL 12 way adjustable shocks and they were great.

Ditch the front sway bar.

I got to a point where the front shocks were set to 12 (all loose)
Rear shocks were set to a 4 on one side and a 5 on the other.

I'm not a fan of edge converters as they typically have low str's and poor efficiency.

Don't throw more power at it. Spend some time with suspension and even weight reduction/ relocation.

Maybe battery in the trunk or get an odessy 11 lb battery for the front. Light weight seat? How far would you be willing to go to with weight reduction/ relocation? I got my 97 bird down to 2720 and still had another 150-200 pounds that could have been removed

[3.4 grape of wrath]

I got some summit adjustable rear shocks coming tomorrow. I like my edge torque converter it's the only one that has held up so far. You won't find a front sway bar on my car. I'm done with weight reduction also. I do want to get some M/t's and try again after I get the shocks set up.

[Slow-V6]

If he is done with weight reduction then more power and suspension are the options. James your car weighed in at 2700lbs!! Thats insane!!

[Zero4488]

The car needs to 60' better....get a set of 26" Mickey's and a bigger convertor.....problem solved....as far as more MPH....now reason to add nitrous....it's a turbo car....use meth, crank the boost up and send it....

[SteveR]

Or if you have a decent rear get some et streets and use a 50 shot of N2O off the line to spool the turbo faster once you get a few feet out.

[3.4 grape of wrath]

Or if you have a decent rear get some et streets and use a 50 shot of N2O off the line to spool the turbo faster once you get a few feet out.

Again I don't want to mess with nitrous. Traction off the line is my problem the turbo is spooling fine. If I need some more hp I can always turn the boost up a little.

[Zero4488]

Again I don't want to mess with nitrous. Traction off the line is my problem the turbo is spooling fine. If I need some more hp I can always turn the boost up a little.

Grab a set of ET streets and you'll see improvement....if your not happy after the tires you'll need a bigger stall....

[3.4 grape of wrath]

Ok I sold the nitto's and I'm going to buy some MT's which I will be mounting on a set of salad shooters. What would be the best size width wise to buy?

[JerzLT1]

why MTs? get a set of Hoosier QTPs and dont look back. 26 x 10.50 should hook great

[BigAls87Z28]

why MTs? get a set of Hoosier QTPs and dont look back. 26 x 10.50 should hook great

ahaha...the last 10 posts about tires kept telling him to get MT's.
Then you come in, and throw it all off.

[3.4 grape of wrath]

Too late the Mickey's are on there way!:mrgreen:

[JerzLT1]

ahaha...the last 10 posts about tires kept telling him to get MT's.
Then you come in, and throw it all off.

i know several people who have had better luck with QTPs, a softer sidewall will allow you to hit them harder

[Zero4488]

i know several people who have had better luck with QTPs, a softer sidewall will allow you to hit them harder

is a turbo v6 going mid 12's.....he'll be fine with any type of bias ply tire....and on the up side....Mickey's will out live QTP's.....

[SteveR]

you can go with 28" M&H's too :lol:

[JerzLT1]

is a turbo v6 going mid 12's.....he'll be fine with any type of bias ply tire....and on the up side....Mickey's will out live QTP's.....

how many sets of QTPs have you gone through? because i used to DD on them. they last a lot longer than you think

[Zero4488]

how many sets of QTPs have you gone through? because i used to DD on them. they last a lot longer than you think

I'm sorry...I've used both....and by the different compound in the Mickey's oppose to the slightly softer compound in the QTP's the Mickey's last longer....my car see's 100% street time of DOT slicks....I think I'd know :moon:

[RamAir95TA]

Either tire will be a hell of an improvement over the Nittos.






...MT FTW. :)

[3.4 grape of wrath]

The Mickey's showed up today now I just have to have them mounted and through the summit drag shocks on and will see how she hooks. :nod:

[LTb1ow]

I have yet to try out my summit drag shocks, so post up how you like yours.

[Zero4488]

Either tire will be a hell of an improvement over the Nittos.






...MT FTW. :)

Yea definitely....

The Mickey's showed up today now I just have to have them mounted and through the summit drag shocks on and will see how she hooks. :nod:

Set them to 50/50 and send it!

I have yet to try out my summit drag shocks, so post up how you like yours.

They work very well for cheap-o summit junk....thats what I'm running in a few of the cars I work on and none of the drivers have any complaints...I'd post a video but seeing how the Non-NHRA sanctioned racing is frowned upon on this site I won't....feel free to PM and I'll send you a link of those shocks and some autozone springs in action....

-Dave

[JerzLT1]

I'm sorry...I've used both....and by the different compound in the Mickey's oppose to the slightly softer compound in the QTP's the Mickey's last longer....my car see's 100% street time of DOT slicks....I think I'd know :moon:

i think that people are under the assumption that QTPs are going to last an oil change of DD duty. ive raced on a set for an entire season worth of racing + DD duty and still had tread lines left. almost everyone that i talk to that uses both says that they like the QTPs more

[Zero4488]

i think that people are under the assumption that QTPs are going to last an oil change of DD duty. ive raced on a set for an entire season worth of racing + DD duty and still had tread lines left. almost everyone that i talk to that uses both says that they like the QTPs more

Believe what you'd like my friend....makes no difference to me....and the reason people like the QTP's more is because of the softer compound....and I know people that will never go back to MT's because of the way the Hoosier's work:wink:

[3.4 grape of wrath]

Alright the MT's are on and the summit shocks installed. The shocks were a little confusing to get adjusted. I was expecting the mark and the arrows to line up perfectly but it seemed like they went past the mark. The middle mark (50/50) seemed to line up close which is where I set it to. Now I just need to test them out.

[Zero4488]

That set up works on alot cars I'm involved with and it doesn't break the bank like the QA1's....