#$(@ you LT1's

[NJ346]

God damn it. Everytime I work on an LT1 to fix one problem, another problem seems to pop up. **** you lt1 gods!!! I feel bad for LT1 owners...really.

/rant

[KirkEvil]

Whaa.

[GrandmasterCow]

Moral of the story:

LS1 > LT1

[JerzLT1]

God damn it. Everytime I work on an LT1 to fix one problem, another problem seems to pop up. **** you lt1 gods!!! I feel bad for LT1 owners...really.

/rant

has nothing to do with the fact that the last one was made 13 years ago

Moral of the story:

LS1 > LT1

when your LS1 is faster than my LT1 then you can say that

[1994lt1]

What is it you were trying to do, and how fast were you trying to get it done? I realized today that when you really take you time and do it slowly it actually goes faster.

[transmaro93]

alls that these rants confirm is that ls1's are better for inexperienced mechanics.... nothing more...

[Iroc-z86]

when your LS1 is faster than my LT1 then you can say that

wow, felt that one over here...

[BonzoHansen]

alls that these rants confirm is that ls1's are better for inexperienced mechanics.... nothing more...

I was going to say that, but I thought I'd let someone else be the jerk. :)

[chrisfrom nj]

fix it till its broken

[JerzLT1]

alls that these rants confirm is that ls1's are better for inexperienced mechanics.... nothing more...

+1 this is Vinnie that were talking about ;)

[BarneyMobile]

I've worked on both along with every other tech in my dealership, and they will all tell you that the LT1 in much more of a PITA to work on than an LS1.

[JerzLT1]

you're just saying that because you dont have your LT1 anymore and you're trying to justify it. you know you miss that car

[S.J.SLEEPER]

alls that these rants confirm is that ls1's are better for inexperienced mechanics.... nothing more...

OUCH !!!


SERIOUSLY....... you f&*kin LTnone guys need to get with the times!
the ls series by far is the easiest of the 2 ta work on (whether experienced or not) and all of its characteristics are better (for the most part ie: hp/tq,mpg,responsiveness to bolt-ons,etc..)

I can change plugs & wires on a ls series engine with my eyes closed in under 20 minutes (gapping plugs ahead of time of course)
You Lt1 nuthangers couldn't do it in under a hr. with your eyes open !!!:mrgreen:

[HeadlessNorseman]

OUCH !!!


SERIOUSLY....... you f&*kin LTnone guys need to get with the times!
the ls series by far is the easiest of the 2 ta work on (whether experienced or not) and all of its characteristics are better (for the most part ie: hp/tq,mpg,responsiveness to bolt-ons,etc..)

I can change plugs & wires on a ls series engine with my eyes closed in under 20 minutes (gapping plugs ahead of time of course)
You Lt1 nuthangers couldn't do it in under a hr. with your eyes open !!!:mrgreen:

Nobody ever argues that the lt1 is better (except maybe matt) but it gets really really old hearing all this crap down talking. the lt1 guys (except maybe matt again) dont make fun of and down talk 3rd gens all that often. and so on and so forth

[JerzLT1]

OUCH !!!


SERIOUSLY....... you f&*kin LTnone guys need to get with the times!
the ls series by far is the easiest of the 2 ta work on (whether experienced or not) and all of its characteristics are better (for the most part ie: hp/tq,mpg,responsiveness to bolt-ons,etc..)

I can change plugs & wires on a ls series engine with my eyes closed in under 20 minutes (gapping plugs ahead of time of course)
You Lt1 nuthangers couldn't do it in under a hr. with your eyes open !!!:mrgreen:

really? you must not be very familiar with them then. i found my LT1 way easier than my LS1 to change plugs in, wires can be done from on top or below with no issues at all. there is nothing difficult about working on LT1s.

[S.J.SLEEPER]

really? you must not be very familiar with them then. i found my LT1 way easier than my LS1 to change plugs in, wires can be done from on top or below with no issues at all. there is nothing difficult about working on LT1s.

What R you smoking? must be something good to make that statement............... unless you have swapped out that time consuming to change opti for ls style ignition system !!!

[bandit88]

boys boys boys! play nice ;)

[JerzLT1]

What R you smoking? must be something good to make that statement............... unless you have swapped out that time consuming to change opti for ls style ignition system !!!

you really shouldnt be commenting on something that you're not fully familiar with. you're just proving that its not the level of difficulty but lack of experience that makes it hard. and there is no point in replacing the opti if you're going to keep it below 7100rpms

[sweetbmxrider]

alls that these rants confirm is that ls1's are better for inexperienced mechanics.... nothing more...

:rofl: best post evar!

[1994lt1]

I really dont think LT1's are that hard to work on. Granted it has its short comings but doesnt every motor? This argument is pretty lame anyway, what is it us LT1 guys were supposed to respond with? Yeah, thats right, f@$% us...? Point taken, we suck.

[Slow-V6]

They both have some positive and negative. The bottom line is this. The LS1 is a better motor performance wise, and is easier to work on. Thats not saying The LT1 is ******. Hell the LS1 is really outdated now.

I love both my cars. If my LT1 blows up I will put another LT1 in it. The things I love about my LT1 is the low end tq, The way it looks, and the feel of it. It feels more like a old school muscle car.

[Slow-V6]

I can change plugs & wires on a ls series engine with my eyes closed in under 20 minutes (gapping plugs ahead of time of course)
You Lt1 nuthangers couldn't do it in under a hr. with your eyes open !!!:mrgreen:


I would love to see you Change the plugs on my T/A in 20 mins on my Driveway!! I would pay 500.00 if you could change them in under 20 mins with your eyes closed!

[NJ346]

ehh. Ls1's are definitely easier to work on, and the fact that they have more power stock, makes them more attractive to an inexperienced mechanic. I've had the motor, trans, and k-member out of my ls1, but working on an LT1 just isn't as fun. Maybe it's just the fact that when I work on LT1's it's not my car, so my enthusiasm to work just isn't there.

[91chevywt]

All I get from this is all LT1s should be junked since they are hard to work on and everybody should drive an LS1 because they are the best and easiest to work on. Cool.

[1994lt1]

Vinnie what exactly were you trying to do to the LT1?

[BonzoHansen]

Vinnie what exactly were you trying to do to the LT1?

Listen all o' yo, it's sabotage.

[transmaro93]

haha yea i was just messing with you vinn...but people got way carried away as usual... i dont really care for the lt1-ls1 argument... i like my car and i can care less... i agree though that working on other peoples cares isnt the same as working on your own... unless they are a close friend or family then it makes me feel good to help...

[01ws6TA]

I would love to see you Change the plugs on my T/A in 20 mins on my Driveway!! I would pay 500.00 if you could change them in under 20 mins with your eyes closed!



Ive seen some of the big hit nitrous guys do a full plug swap in under 15 minutes. Talking 400+ hit guys who read there plugs after every run. So its not impossible.

[JL8Jeff]

LT1 is just another normal small block so it's no big deal. 4th gens are a pita to work on in general. It's no picnic changing plugs on either the LT1 or the LS1. Headers are about the same pita on both cars especially when you're doing emission's headers. The LT1 is a little more of a pain because of the EGR setup but they're pretty darn close. 396 big block if you want easy.

[S.J.SLEEPER]

you really shouldnt be commenting on something that you're not fully familiar with. you're just proving that its not the level of difficulty but lack of experience that makes it hard.

I'm not talking about in/experience. its a simple fact that the lt1 will definitly take longer to do a plug/wire change than an ls1.

I've owned/worked on lt1's too.

ls1-equal length wires (lt1's need to select proper length)
ls1-coil-per-plug on top of valve covers(lt1 have to route wires along block and into opti)
ls1-plugs,little more access to remove than lt1

all these things allow the plugs and wires to be change alot faster than an LT1.
if for some reason you don't believe/understand this.
than bring your car down, I'll put $500 in your hand if you can change yours out before I get mine done.

NOTE: my original post was just breakin nuts, but some people here can't take it, so therefore I have to prove my point here.

personally: I like lt1's (the grunt,lowend torque and the sound of it. But I have grown to love my LS)

[JerzLT1]

there is no more room in an LS1 than an LT1, wires are obviously easier but LT1s are not by any means hard. you're making it sound like babies will cry and planes will fall out of the sky if you have to do a plug/wire change in an LT1.

[JL8Jeff]

I'm not talking about in/experience. its a simple fact that the lt1 will definitly take longer to do a plug/wire change than an ls1.

I've owned/worked on lt1's too.

ls1-equal length wires (lt1's need to select proper length)
ls1-coil-per-plug on top of valve covers(lt1 have to route wires along block and into opti)
ls1-plugs,little more access to remove than lt1

all these things allow the plugs and wires to be change alot faster than an LT1.

But it's not really because of the LT1, it's because of the 4th gen body. Changing plugs is one thing, changing wires is not done as often as plugs though. The LT1 is definitely more difficult with some of the maintenance but in the end they are both a pita compared to a 1st or 2nd gen.

And everyone is just busting each others balls in here so nobody should be taking it too seriously. :wink:

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[Slow-V6]

Ive seen some of the big hit nitrous guys do a full plug swap in under 15 minutes. Talking 400+ hit guys who read there plugs after every run. So its not impossible.

I didnt say it was inpossible. He said he could change the plugs on any LS series engine in under 20 mins with his eyes closed!! I offered him 500.00 to see if he could do it one my T/A which is just a bolt on car. I never said it was inpossible. I use to change the plugs on my 3.8 firebird in about 25 mins. Thats because like you said I had nitrous and changed the plugs every 2 months or so. I also had no a/c and no egr so it was simple. It was also my car so I knew everything about it.

[Slow-V6]

all these things allow the plugs and wires to be change alot faster than an LT1.
if for some reason you don't believe/understand this.
than bring your car down, I'll put $500 in your hand if you can change yours out before I get mine done.

I want to see you change the plugs on my T/A with your eyes closed in less then 20mins. Like I said before if you can do that then I will give you 500.00!!

[Rich2279]

Damn I guess all those Buick Grand National Cars and Turbo T/A's were worthless POS's! I bet if you ever got a hold of one you would pull that Sucky V6 out and drop in an all mighty LT1!! Let me know if you do cause that little 3.8 would be a hell of a upgrade for my LT1 powerd Firehawk!!

3.8 Turbo V6s (Grand National motor) are truly great. I would love to build one and put it in my Camaro. I figured it would just be easier to go w/ the LT1.

[Blacdout96]

It would certainly be unique, and nothingsays badass like a turbo spooling up when you punch it :)

[Tru2Chevy]

I guess you miss the part that this is a 4th gen thread not a 5th gen thread.

I guess you missed the part about me ignoring the 3.4 vs 3.8 comments and directly quoting Vinny's comment, which was in reference to this:
is that why gm abandoned the 690's in favor of the 660 design? :wink:

GM chose to develop the 60* v6 platform for the future and drop the 90* platform, and based on the current crop of v6 engines that are being offered in today's cars, it sure looks to me like they made the right choice.

- Justin

[WildBillyT]

It would certainly be unique, and nothingsays badass like a turbo spooling up when you punch it :)

No, there is something. Two turbos.

[Lt1_8U]

http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x94/69novaguy/engine.jpg

lt1 ftw

[Mike]

lets all make an attempt to not act like fools and stay on topic

[69BirdX]

Did plugs on my ls1 for the first time and it took my 2 hours. Def easier then a lt in my opinion but i never owned or worked on an lt motor that was mine which does make a difference. But if i were to buy a car becsaue of how hard it was to work on Id get a mustang. Did plugs on my buddies mach and it took a half hour of taking my time

[sweetbmxrider]

should look into 4 banger honda's if you want quick plug changes.

[JerzLT1]

Did plugs on my ls1 for the first time and it took my 2 hours. Def easier then a lt in my opinion but i never owned or worked on an lt motor that was mine which does make a difference. But if i were to buy a car becsaue of how hard it was to work on Id get a mustang. Did plugs on my buddies mach and it took a half hour of taking my time

how can you say that its easier having said that you've never worked on an LT1

[69BirdX]

how can you say that its easier having said that you've never worked on an LT1

I have. My buddy owned one. I've done alot of work on his. Plus worked on a few at the shop when I worked there. But I never owned one myself it's alot easier when your working on you own car. That's what I meant but I can't speak English.