2011 5.0 GT vs. 5th Gen SS

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJHqbqGCCMc&feature=player_embedded

Now the 1st race it looks like the Camaro was sleeping...2nd looks like the GT walked it.

[ib4200]

Lol @ the comments made, silly ford people

[edpontiac91]

BOTH times it looks like the Mustang has a MUCH better launch:drive: and LOW END pull away than the Camaro!

[LTb1ow]

I wanna rent a 5th gen, and rent like a kia, make a sweet video of the Kia kicking the 5th gens ass, and see the internet flame fest fall out.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

I wanna rent a 5th gen, and rent like a kia, make a sweet video of the Kia kicking the 5th gens ass, and see the internet flame fest fall out.

Yea why dont u get on that......anyway from what im reading Motortrend got a 12.80 outta the GT so the numbers are looking a little better then the 5th gens. Believe they come w/ 373's.

[WildBillyT]

Camaro needs the driver mod. Simple as that. Should be a much closer race.

[transmaro93]

I wanna rent a 5th gen, and rent like a kia, make a sweet video of the Kia kicking the 5th gens ass, and see the internet flame fest fall out.

i agree with this.... these vids on youtube although entertaining sometimes prove nothing...

[Tru2Chevy]

That was also an automatic (L99) Camaro.

Manual to Manual should be a closer race.

- Justin

[BigAls87Z28]

Eh, new 5.0 is a hell of a car. If the GT got the performance pack, its also got the higher gears.
Mustang has weight advantage over Camaro, and a little gear as well.
Ford seems to have done a great job with this new 5.0, and really showed up what that chassis can do.
Camaro is heavy, but the SS is to soft.

[BigRocsFirebird]

i like the 5.0

[LTb1ow]

i like the 5.0

Well you are lame!


:lol:

[BigRocsFirebird]

Well you are lame!


:lol:

lol ehhh i like alot of american cars. camaro, firebird, trans am, dart, road runner, cuda, chevelle, nova, grand national and many more. better than me likeing a honda with a fart cannon and a 12ft tall wing

[Slow-V6]

lol ehhh i like alot of american cars. camaro, firebird, trans am, dart, road runner, cuda, chevelle, nova, grand national and many more. better than me likeing a honda with a fart cannon and a 12ft tall wing

I thought you got a Mustang?

The new Mustang is just ugly! I dont care what engine it comes with it just looks ugly as hell!!

[T69SS]

I thought you got a Mustang?

The new Mustang is just ugly! I dont care what engine it comes with it just looks ugly as hell!!

I think it looks great, Ford being the first out of the big three to do a retro/classic look really nailed it with the '05 and have only improved the look with the new body style. I cant wait to see/ride in one of the new 5.0s

[BigRocsFirebird]

I thought you got a Mustang?

The new Mustang is just ugly! I dont care what engine it comes with it just looks ugly as hell!!

i knew Mike and Justin couldn't keep it to themselves lol i was going to do the whole fox body up and show up at a meet and see if anyone notices me or just think it's some random guy in a fox. but yea i got a fox body the crate motor came in a couple days ago. i have a couple grand worth of parts sitting in my room and garage. it's going to be a couple months

[LTb1ow]

i knew Mike and Justin couldn't keep it to themselves lol i was going to do the whole fox body up and show up at a meet and see if anyone notices me or just think it's some random guy in a fox. but yea i got a fox body the crate motor came in a couple days ago. i have a couple grand worth of parts sitting in my room and garage. it's going to be a couple months

Wah.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd146/zook83/ricestang.jpg

[KirkEvil]

The new mustang seems pretty impressive from everything Ive read and seen. I read that motortrend dynoed it at 435 hp, 409 tq which is very respectable. 110 trap speed is no joke either, these are fast cars out of the box.

The only bad Ive heard so far is that people think its maxed out and wont respond very well to mods, and hp/$ is going to be rough

[Slow-V6]

i knew Mike and Justin couldn't keep it to themselves lol i was going to do the whole fox body up and show up at a meet and see if anyone notices me or just think it's some random guy in a fox. but yea i got a fox body the crate motor came in a couple days ago. i have a couple grand worth of parts sitting in my room and garage. it's going to be a couple months

Actually I remember when we did that photo shoot that you wanted to get a mustang. I actually meant to say I thought you wanted a mustang but I had a typo.

[Slow-V6]

The new mustang seems pretty impressive from everything Ive read and seen. I read that motortrend dynoed it at 435 hp, 409 tq which is very respectable. 110 trap speed is no joke either, these are fast cars out of the box.

The only bad Ive heard so far is that people think its maxed out and wont respond very well to mods, and hp/$ is going to be rough

Damn my 02 WS6 with a LM2 and lid trapped 110mph in the 1/4!! I am still not impressed. It took Ford 9 years to get up to speed with a LS1 in there GT mustang!! I was impressed with the 03/04 cobra and was somewhat impressed with there Mach 1.

[KirkEvil]

Damn my 02 WS6 with a LM2 and lid trapped 110mph in the 1/4!! I am still not impressed. It took Ford 9 years to get up to speed with a LS1 in there GT mustang!! I was impressed with the 03/04 cobra and was somewhat impressed with there Mach 1.

LM and lid is not stock, and its been long enough for people to realize what cheap mods work best. I agree with ford finally catching up, but regardless of their sand bagging the new mustang is impressive.

[BigRocsFirebird]

Actually I remember when we did that photo shoot that you wanted to get a mustang. I actually meant to say I thought you wanted a mustang but I had a typo.

haha yeah i have the firebird and a mustang right now. after high school i want to pick up a 03-04 Cobra

[LTb1ow]

http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh201/m4bgringo/spilt_block.jpg

Mustang ftw...

[Slow-V6]

LM and lid is not stock, and its been long enough for people to realize what cheap mods work best. I agree with ford finally catching up, but regardless of their sand bagging the new mustang is impressive.

You are correct that my car was not stock! My car bone stock probably trapped 108ish in the 1/4. Hell with a lid and catback it put down 330rwhp!! Its sad that my car bone stock was rated at 100 hp less then the new GT and still runs pretty close to what the new GTs Run stock vrs stock!! I mean a 01 GT Vrs a 01 Z28 the camaro only made 50 more hp and was heavier and still beat the GT by almost a second in the 1/4 mile!!

The new mustang is impressive for a Mustang GT!! Its sad it took so long to get them to run a 12 second 1/4 stock!

Also the Mod motors have been out longer then the LS series motors So I think its just as easy to figure out what makes a 5.0 mod motor run with cheapo mods also!

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Some of you guys are funny w/ your brand sensitivity. Sometimes the truth is a bitter pill to swallow....So far it looks like this car outperforms the 5th gen. everywhere.

[Slow-V6]

I dont really care if a 2011 Mustang beats a 2010 camaro!! I will never own either car because I really dont like the style of either!!

Brand sensitivity!! I owned 2 mustangs in my life. I have reasons why I do not like the Mustang and will never own one again! I am a F-body guy and the only car that can sway me away is probably a Vette!! If that somehow offends Mustang lovers on a F-body website then so be it!

And another thing is how is it impressive that a GT mustang, who hasnt beaten a V8 F-body in 19 years, finally beats one??

[BurninrubberGT]

The new mustang seems pretty impressive from everything Ive read and seen. I read that motortrend dynoed it at 435 hp, 409 tq which is very respectable. 110 trap speed is no joke either, these are fast cars out of the box.

The only bad Ive heard so far is that people think its maxed out and wont respond very well to mods, and hp/$ is going to be rough

You definately got your dyno numbers wrong

[LTb1ow]

Some of you guys are funny w/ your brand sensitivity. Sometimes the truth is a bitter pill to swallow....So far it looks like this car outperforms the 5th gen. everywhere.

Battle of the whales as far as I am concerned... wouldn't own either of em. I merely play on the fools that drool over em. :lol:

[ThoR294]

i dont even consider that camaro a fbody.

and it seriously is about time ford went back to the 5.0. that 4.6 was a stupid turd. I loved the fox bodies and the early SN95?s that had the 302s in them. the 4.6L was such a downgrade. new 5.0 for the win.

[T69SS]

i dont even consider that camaro a fbody.

and it seriously is about time ford went back to the 5.0. that 4.6 was a stupid turd. I loved the fox bodies and the early SN95?s that had the 302s in them. the 4.6L was such a downgrade. new 5.0 for the win.

I had a 99 2v Mustang GT 4.6 with a few mods and it responded very well to them. Best time was only a 12.8, but the car was no slug. I have to agree that i am glad to see Ford go back to the 5.0

[Slow-V6]

I had a 99 2v Mustang GT 4.6 with a few mods and it responded very well to them. Best time was only a 12.8, but the car was no slug. I have to agree that i am glad to see Ford go back to the 5.0

What mods did you have done to it to run a 12.8?

We worked on my buddies 00 GT and he had Headers,Full exhaust, 4.10 gears, Upper intake, All the suspension parts, skinny fats with MT ET streets, 4V aluminum block, and his car weighed about 300lbs lighter then it did stock! His best pass was a 12.8 @ 105mph!! Stock he went 13.9@98.

The 2v's were slugs!! I owned a 96 2v and it was a real dog!

[Frosty]

And another thing is how is it impressive that a GT mustang, who hasnt beaten a V8 F-body in 19 years, finally beats one??

That's pretty much what it boils down to. The Mustang has been slow junk since the early 90's, it's about time they can beat a LT1 or LS1 for that matter. I agree with Justin though, lets see an actual LS3 vs. 5.0.

I welcome the rivalry, the war is back.

[Jersyboyy]

Yes the war is back...Im loving it...and my buddies 99 cobra with just 3:73s intake and catback was 13.0 with another driver. Pretty quick car.
But the new 5.0 motor is more than just a ford 5.0 motor its a completely new motor rivaled against the lsx motors and it is badass if you read into its specs.
I give the new mustang alot of props its pretty hot and it makes a great match for the new Camaro so good of a match makes me worried.
And im pretty sure who ever said the new 5.0 motor is almost pushed to its limits and anything aftermarket $/HP WONT be cheap/worth it your wrong that motors got ALOT left in it from the factory.

[Tru2Chevy]

and it seriously is about time ford went back to the 5.0. that 4.6 was a stupid turd. I loved the fox bodies and the early SN95?s that had the 302s in them. the 4.6L was such a downgrade. new 5.0 for the win.

I had a 99 2v Mustang GT 4.6 with a few mods and it responded very well to them. Best time was only a 12.8, but the car was no slug. I have to agree that i am glad to see Ford go back to the 5.0

Just making sure that you guys both understand that this 5.0 has way more in common with the 4.6 mod motor than the old fox body era 5.0. The only thing Ford went "back" to is a familiar displacement number.

- Justin

[V]

my friends 98 gt vert couldnt get out of the 15s with exhaust, intake and programmer....

[SteveR]

The 2v's were slugs!! I owned a 96 2v and it was a real dog!

The 99+ 2Vs had different heads, cams, and intake and were a lot better than the 98- version.

[Brendan713]

Eh, new 5.0 is a hell of a car. If the GT got the performance pack, its also got the higher gears.
Mustang has weight advantage over Camaro, and a little gear as well.
Ford seems to have done a great job with this new 5.0, and really showed up what that chassis can do.
Camaro is heavy, but the SS is to soft.

Camaro SS= Super Soft

[T69SS]

What mods did you have done to it to run a 12.8?

We worked on my buddies 00 GT and he had Headers,Full exhaust, 4.10 gears, Upper intake, All the suspension parts, skinny fats with MT ET streets, 4V aluminum block, and his car weighed about 300lbs lighter then it did stock! His best pass was a 12.8 @ 105mph!! Stock he went 13.9@98.

The 2v's were slugs!! I owned a 96 2v and it was a real dog!

SLP Longtubes, Catless X, SLP LM1 Catback, TB/plenum, 4.10 gears, ET Streets, 2v heads, most of the usual suspension and a Vortech V2 :mrgreen:

[KirkEvil]

You definately got your dyno numbers wrong

Conflicting numbers, but what the hell...

Motortrend 435hp/404tq (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydykiWKW6fE)

Edmunds...395hp/365tq (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rf3BzvEximI)

[BurninrubberGT]

I thought it had 412/390 at the flywheel??

[qwikz28]

Just making sure that you guys both understand that this 5.0 has way more in common with the 4.6 mod motor than the old fox body era 5.0. The only thing Ford went "back" to is a familiar displacement number.

- Justin

eh, the old ones were really 4.9s anyway :lol:

[Slow-V6]

SLP Longtubes, Catless X, SLP LM1 Catback, TB/plenum, 4.10 gears, ET Streets, 2v heads, most of the usual suspension and a Vortech V2 :mrgreen:

You had all those mods and a Supercharger and was only running a 12.8?? Wow!! Thats like 5 or 6k in mods to run what a pretty much stock LS1 runs!!

My old roomate with pretty much those same mods but a built motor with ported heads and blower cam on 15 lbs of boost went 11.8 @ 119mph!! He made 440 rwhp!! He sold the car soon after that!! Dumped about 15-20 grand into it and ran a high 11!! He was pissed when my V6 with heads and cam on a 125 shot trapped 118mph!!

[Slow-V6]

The 99+ 2Vs had different heads, cams, and intake and were a lot better than the 98- version.

Like I said before they were slugs!! They went from 225hp in 98 to 260hp in 99-04 with the new PI setup!! The best thing you could do to a 2v motor is put 4v heads on it if you want to keep it all motor!!

[Slow-V6]

Yes the war is back...Im loving it...and my buddies 99 cobra with just 3:73s intake and catback was 13.0 with another driver. Pretty quick car.
But the new 5.0 motor is more than just a ford 5.0 motor its a completely new motor rivaled against the lsx motors and it is badass if you read into its specs.
I give the new mustang alot of props its pretty hot and it makes a great match for the new Camaro so good of a match makes me worried.
And im pretty sure who ever said the new 5.0 motor is almost pushed to its limits and anything aftermarket $/HP WONT be cheap/worth it your wrong that motors got ALOT left in it from the factory.

Thats a Cobra with a 4v motor!! They were quick cars just the Gts were not!! I like the fact that the war is back its just funny how everyone is crowning the Mustang already when the Camaro hasnt had a chance to fight back!!

The aftermarket is going to suck for it price wise!! A cam swap is going to be 2k dollars for just parts!!

[Blacdout96]

eh, the old ones were really 4.9s anyway :lol:

This.

[Featherburner]

eh, the old ones were really 4.9s anyway :lol:4.9567 L is close enough to 5 liters.:wink:

[DaSkinnyGuy]

Hey if it runs faster congrats, dynos dont lie, timeslips dont lie.

[Blacdout96]

screw all the V8 talk, the 6 cylinders is where it's at right now, mustangs pulling times you'd see stock 4th gens run. Time to see what GM fires back with the Camaro.

I also would like to point out that anyone who boughta first year is truely not the smartest. Now that Ford has fired these shots, I can see GM busting out some numbers to compete. time to up the anty.

[Featherburner]

Hey if it runs faster congrats, dynos dont tell the whole story, timeslips dont lie.Fixed.

[BigAls87Z28]

To build off what Justin said...the new 5.0 has nothing to do with the 5.0 of yore, outside of the size of displacement. Zero. Not even a spark plug.
The 5.0 is a larger Mod motor aka 4.6/5.4 with some new style heads and improved flow.

[Stupercharged]

Hey if it runs faster congrats, dynos lie depending on the conditions you enter hell you can make a dyno read nearly any amount of hp, timeslips dont lie (FACT).

FIXED

[NastyEllEssWon]

i was impressed by the mustang when i test drove the track pack, giving it more hp and an extra gear can mean only better things. id love to see a baby cobra version of the v6 with the ecoboost. thats the car im waiting to see :nod:

[SteveR]

i was impressed by the mustang when i test drove the track pack, giving it more hp and an extra gear can mean only better things. id love to see a baby cobra version of the v6 with the ecoboost. thats the car im waiting to see :nod:

That would be awesome, twin turbo V6. They'd have to make a manual trans an option, something they failed to do on the Fusion Sport AWD, but you could get a stick on the base model FWD :scratch:

[NastyEllEssWon]

That would be awesome, twin turbo V6. They'd have to make a manual trans an option, something they failed to do on the Fusion Sport AWD, but you could get a stick on the base model FWD :scratch:




i dont think ford has an awd transaxle/transfer case that can handle the violent tendencies of a stick shift with the power of the ecoboost? ford has rwd parts out the ass though :nod:

[BigAls87Z28]

RWD parts out the ass? Yeah, with all that RWD product they have running about.

MT pit the GT vs SS vs SRT8.