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Squirrel
03-31-2010, 11:03 PM
I graduated from an accredited college with 144 credits with a major/minor, i'm honestly tired of getting run around by employers, and i told myself if i dont have my CPA or a career by september i will be go into the armed forces... i just want to know, what do i do? give me a heads up.. serious thread, i am the 5th member of all time so please respect
LTb1ow
03-31-2010, 11:06 PM
Keep your head up, market is not the greatest, so I doubt is a lacking on your part.
What field are you trying to get into and what is your degree in?
Like he said above me, the market is very tough right now.
What kind of work exp. do you already have on the resume? What level are the types of jobs you are applying for, possibly you are over/under qualified.
Give a little more detail.
JW :D
redbanditZ28
04-01-2010, 12:57 AM
If you are looking for an accounting career of sorts at a bank, I may be able to help you out, depending on different factors like your job history and education. My dad's bank is looking for an accounting representative to support the CFOs and do a variety of work. PM me if you're interested.
bandit88
04-01-2010, 07:44 AM
don't be to hard on yourself...... the job market is slow. My friends who are graduating this semester with Mechanical Engineering degrees can't find anything.
Blacdout96
04-01-2010, 07:59 AM
Go oversea's where markets are opening up there, I've been contemplating if should do that, everything around here blows.
ryanfx
04-01-2010, 08:13 AM
You'll have to figure out whether the market is slow as a whole for your field, or if it's you in specific that can't find a job (I guess ask your buddies who graduated with you / your degree). If it's only you, go into the armed forces, if it's slow as a whole, avoid the armed forces. Salary wise you'll be shooting yourself in the foot going out fighting instead of doing accounting... even if you don't work for a year or two you'll still come out ahead doing accounting if you ever get into a half respectable company.
edit: This would be a perfect opportunity to go back to school and further your future career by increasing your level of education
Good luck, I was told I couldn't join because I was a dual citizen, although they lusted after my language skills. :lol:
I decided that I will go back to school, most likely.
LS1Hawk
04-01-2010, 09:15 AM
Like others have said, it is a horrible market. Those who don't have jobs can't find them and those who have them are trying desperately not to lose them.
NastyEllEssWon
04-01-2010, 09:16 AM
dont join the military as a last resort...you'll end up hating it. ive known a few that had ''no other choice'' and then realize what that means when you're actually a part of it. right now in this market any job is a good job.
jts98z28
04-01-2010, 09:37 AM
dont join the military as a last resort...you'll end up hating it. ive known a few that had ''no other choice'' and then realize what that means when you're actually a part of it. right now in this market any job is a good job.
x2 my cousin did that and now he is disarming bombs in the middle east, says its the biggest regret of his life and thinks he is going to die everyday, im not hating on the military in any way theyre incredibly brave and i could never do anything they do, im just saying that only join it if you really want to dont do it out of impulse or last resort
Dark_Knight7096
04-01-2010, 09:43 AM
I have a 4 year degree in psycholog, graduated Cum Laude, member of Pi Lambda Theta Professional Honor Society in Education, I fell into a 70k a year job that didn't require a GED even (70k was top pay which I started at for my degree and honor society, but everyone reaches that level eventually). I was "laid off" (long story) and was unemployed for over a year at which point I finally landed in a state job that pays less than 30k a year and I was in hardcore competition with Masters and Ph.D. holders to get it. In fact I was the only guy hired in my group of 25 hires that only had a BA, everyone else in the room had an MBA.
It's happening to everyone man, you gotta just keep your head up and keep looking, get in on the bottom somewhere and then work your way up and get your slice.
Squirrel
04-01-2010, 11:11 AM
well i took an extra semester so im only 6 credits away from sitting for my cpa and iirc like 16 from my finance degree so going back to school would probably be the best option.. but its just frustrating getting reply after reply of no, even for jobs that require an associates at best
well i took an extra semester so im only 6 credits away from sitting for my cpa and iirc like 16 from my finance degree so going back to school would probably be the best option.. but its just frustrating getting reply after reply of no, even for jobs that require an associates at best
"No" is better than no reply at all. And then there are places that get back to you 6 months after you apply. WTF kinda BS is that?
Squirrel
04-01-2010, 12:07 PM
"No" is better than no reply at all. And then there are places that get back to you 6 months after you apply. WTF kinda BS is that?
hear you bro.. the worst thing is im in the between stage now... out of school with no experience, i couldnt to do an internship, no way could i afford it
Savage_Messiah
04-01-2010, 12:22 PM
Tons of people I graduated HS with but never talk to, I'll run into, ask how things are, and it's always the same: graduated school, cant find a job, So it's not really you so much. I'd say just start looking around for stuff even if it doesn't have to do with your degree, it's better than nothing for now. Unless you're 100% sure it's waht you want to do, I wouldn't rush into going back to school, just because I have heard first hand how a friend with a master's was rejected from jobs due to him being over-qualified - they said, this guys better than what we're looking for, if we hire him he'll just leave soon and we'll have to hire again. Also in today's economy most places are trying to cut their costs, which leans towards hiring people with bachelor's over masters and such.
Also in today's economy most places are trying to cut their costs, which leans towards hiring people with bachelor's over masters and such.
That entirely depends on the industry/sector you are applying to. There are places that won't even let you get an application without Masters. Nowadays everyone and their dog has a BA/BS, damn diploma mills.
Blacdout96
04-01-2010, 12:51 PM
Tons of people I graduated HS with but never talk to, I'll run into, ask how things are, and it's always the same: graduated school, cant find a job, So it's not really you so much. I'd say just start looking around for stuff even if it doesn't have to do with your degree, it's better than nothing for now. Unless you're 100% sure it's waht you want to do, I wouldn't rush into going back to school, just because I have heard first hand how a friend with a master's was rejected from jobs due to him being over-qualified - they said, this guys better than what we're looking for, if we hire him he'll just leave soon and we'll have to hire again. Also in today's economy most places are trying to cut their costs, which leans towards hiring people with bachelor's over masters and such.
Yup, I do work in parts retailing again, but alot of my friends who went to a fancy college, came back and said they're living back at home, and can't find a job out there, makes my day, Im glad I'm skilled in many fields, and if not, I'm quick to learn, always allowed me to have a job.
Yup, I do work in parts retailing again, but alot of my friends who went to a fancy college, came back and said they're living back at home, and can't find a job out there, makes my day, Im glad I'm skilled in many fields, and if not, I'm quick to learn, always allowed me to have a job.
No worries, your bliss is only temporary.
Savage_Messiah
04-01-2010, 01:25 PM
No worries, your bliss is only temporary.
No bearing on the OP... and going down that road can get real ugly real fast
Blacdout96
04-01-2010, 01:32 PM
No worries, your bliss is only temporary.
Life is a series of moments, and it's the little things in life that make it worth while.
Not being a dick or anything, just a general question, but tsar what do you do for a living? just curious
No bearing on the OP... and going down that road can get real ugly real fastFidgit, quit yapping or I'll stuff you in a trash can.
Life is a series of moments, and it's the little things in life that make it worth while.
Not being a dick or anything, just a general question, but tsar what do you do for a living? just curious
I agree living in the moment is great, but many times it's shortsighted.
I go on interviews and get paid, that's how I roll :lol:
In reality, I'm getting ready for law school. Collecting crap, and preparing for the exam so I can go to a good one, hopefully.
I'll be the first one to admit, that that was not my original plan. I couldn't find a job in the industry that I wanted to, so I had to re-evaluate and come up with a new game plan. I wanted to work for .gov or defense sectors, they wanted me too - but one might say that my dual citizenship might have interfered. I still have interviews in April with State Department and NJSP, and I'm waiting on a word If I get to go to FLETC in June or August with another agency. The jobs I want take incredibly long to get. For example, I was an applicant with the one of the best intel agencies for 1.5 years, after which they said "No thanks". So applying to those jobs NOW would be pretty useless, plus I wouldn't want to take someone's spot who really wants it (I'll quit to go to law school anyways).
But yea, soon I might get a job as some sup/assistant manager working for my dad to kill some time. but that's after I take my test for law school.
Blacdout96
04-01-2010, 02:34 PM
Thats some straight up ******** with how they handled ya Tsar, I can see their reasoning, but the cold war's over, time to put USEFUL people in those positions.
Thats some straight up ******** with how they handled ya Tsar, I can see their reasoning, but the cold war's over, time to put USEFUL people in those positions.
I think I forgot the most humorous part. I tried to go the military route too. Since I have a degree, I was gonna go the Officer route. I did all my paper work, got all the recommendation letters, did PT - the whole thing thing probably took about 2 to 3 months, mostly because of the recommendation letters. One, 1!!!, day before my review board I was told that I was not eligible because I was a dual citizen :lol:
You know what they tried to do? I was told that they have two options available for me. 1 Enlist as a cook for 2 or 3 years. 2. Enlist as a plumber for 2 or 3 years.
I simply laughed, and walked away. But I guess 2009 being the best year ever for recruiting, they don't have to fight much for recruits.
WildBillyT
04-01-2010, 02:49 PM
I think I forgot the most humorous part. I tried to go the military route too. Since I have a degree, I was gonna go the Officer route. I did all my paper work, got all the recommendation letters, did PT - the whole thing thing probably took about 2 to 3 months, mostly because of the recommendation letters. One, 1!!!, day before my review board I was told that I was not eligible because I was a dual citizen :lol:
You know what they tried to do? I was told that they have two options available for me. 1 Enlist as a cook for 2 or 3 years. 2. Enlist as a plumber for 2 or 3 years.
I simply laughed, and walked away. But I guess 2009 being the best year ever for recruiting, they don't have to fight much for recruits.
Well, I heard the military is looking for people to help keep some monarch from kidnapping women in some country far away. Do you like the taste of mushrooms? I hear you can make some coin.
Blacdout96
04-01-2010, 03:04 PM
I'm down for that, I need a break from the automotive business, New Jersey for that matter. I was thinking of going back to school, but it's hard to consider goign when the market's tough. It would be nice to have schooling under my belt if the market decides to change, but between supporting the wifey, my accident I had a couple weeks ago, and some unfinished business that needs to be taken care of, looking for a house, and deciphering when to go back to Taiwan, I won't be goign to school for a little while, hopefully things change by then.
miketa95
04-01-2010, 06:14 PM
Start your own buisness.
Tru2Chevy
04-03-2010, 10:29 PM
Well, I heard the military is looking for people to help keep some monarch from kidnapping women in some country far away. Do you like the taste of mushrooms? I hear you can make some coin.
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
- Justin
Savage_Messiah
04-04-2010, 01:06 PM
Well, I heard the military is looking for people to help keep some monarch from kidnapping women in some country far away. Do you like the taste of mushrooms? I hear you can make some coin.
WIN
BigAls87Z28
04-04-2010, 08:26 PM
What seals the deal is the coin comment. Fantastic.
Im trying to try and get every certification and degree one man can get.
Im gunna continue to pick up my Bach in Marketing/Business, ASE cert is done, want to get a teaching cert too.
I have a job, and I enjoy it for the most part. It pays decent, but there is always something better. Ive put in for jobs that have nothing to do with what I do now, trying everything.
LTb1ow
04-04-2010, 08:28 PM
Commercial guys make a lot and you guys work normal hours too. And you don't deal with the crazies.
BigAls87Z28
04-04-2010, 08:33 PM
Commercial guys make a lot and you guys work normal hours too. And you don't deal with the crazies.
ahaha...yep.
LTb1ow
04-04-2010, 08:35 PM
Heh, I'm gonna call up the Zone's commercial and ask for left handed wrenchs.
PlanDefeat
04-05-2010, 07:52 AM
This is becoming an economy for sustainment not of rapid growth or industry. Keep what you have or try and make a decent living. The population is only soaring, immigration is at its limit. I hate to say it but there won't be a turn around. Remember life as a kid (depending on how old you are) 16-20+ year olds working at gas stations, mowing lawns, working jobs that require no skill only so that they could pay their expenses. Now take a look
JL8Jeff
04-05-2010, 12:49 PM
When my brother graduated college years ago he started working in a hardware store until he could find something better related to his major. I started at rock bottom entry level salary just to get in the door and that was 21 years ago. Often times the person willing to take the lowest salary will get the position, skills don't have all that much to do with it at that point. But after a year or 2 you will be more marketable with the experience and the new knowledge of specific tools. And companies don't want to have to rehire and retrain people so they want someone who they think will stay with the company for several years at least.
bad64chevelle
04-05-2010, 08:39 PM
"No" is better than no reply at all. And then there are places that get back to you 6 months after you apply. WTF kinda BS is that?
THIS! Same boat as many of you...graduated just in time for everything to tank. I have been doing side jobs, and taking BS jobs for a while, tomorrow I start a new one...Unfortunately that piece of paper we worked so hard for means very little right now.
Little G
04-06-2010, 07:05 AM
College is overrated IMO
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ryanfx
04-06-2010, 07:57 AM
College is overrated IMO
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WildBillyT
04-06-2010, 08:28 AM
College is overrated IMO
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I agree
ryanfx
04-06-2010, 08:52 AM
College is overrated IMO
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I agree
The problem isn't college, the problem is people who chose to major in a profession which doesn't have a high demand in the current market. Major in any sort of technologically advanced degree and doors fly open.
WildBillyT
04-06-2010, 09:07 AM
The problem isn't college, the problem is people who chose to major in a profession which doesn't have a high demand in the current market. Major in any sort of technologically advanced degree and doors fly open.
It's a society that says "GO TO COLLEGE" like that's ALWAYS the thing to do when you graduate high school. Not the case. There are a lot of people that go to college that should not be there- it just gives them a ton of debt and an opportunity cost hit. Society places value on the piece of paper even if it's completely not applicable to the situation- which is flat wrong IMO. If I am hiring you as a market research analyst I don't want to see a zoology degree.
I know plenty of people that went to college, graduated, and don't use the degree they payed out the ass for. Some of them are even going back to school for something else! That screams "I was not ready to go at first". Or they go for an easy degree with a lot of subjective coursework and a lot of other students and then wonder why nobody values their degree.
If you go for CS, Math, Engineering, Bio, Economics, etc then you are "playing a different sport" as far as college goes, IMO.
ryanfx
04-06-2010, 09:15 AM
College is overrated IMO
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It's a society that says "GO TO COLLEGE" like that's ALWAYS the thing to do when you graduate high school. Not the case. There are a lot of people that go to college that should not be there- it just gives them a ton of debt and an opportunity cost hit. Society places value on the piece of paper even if it's completely not applicable to the situation- which is flat wrong IMO. If I am hiring you as a market research analyst I don't want to see a zoology degree.
I know plenty of people that went to college, graduated, and don't use the degree they payed out the ass for. Some of them are even going back to school for something else! That screams "I was not ready to go at first". Or they go for an easy degree with a lot of subjective coursework and a lot of other students and then wonder why nobody values their degree.
If you go for CS, Math, Engineering, Bio, Economics, etc then you are "playing a different sport" as far as college goes, IMO.
I do agree that not everyone is fit for college, I also believe that we do put emphasis on the degree, even when it is not entirely applicable to your job. When you are applying for a job, and they simply want to see "a degree", they are just looking to see if you have motivation, determination, and are at least somewhat intelligent. It's kind of like an adult's eagle scout award.
91chevywt
04-06-2010, 09:42 AM
It pisses me off that its looked down upon for someone not to go to college. Like anyone who doesnt go is an idiot. I wish I could have been around during the days when the majority of the population could make a living with a high school education. I like being in school and learning things but it seems like even college now is a huge gamble in every field. Risk $100,000 more or less on a career
I agree
Try applying to NSA or the CIA without one. Tell me how it works out.
Edit* I'll also throw in DIA. FBI and DEA more or less too, although it might be easier to get into FBI/DEA without a degree if you have SF experience in the military.
Cheers,
BonzoHansen
04-06-2010, 11:36 AM
Try applying to NSA or the CIA without one. Tell me how it works out.
Edit* I'll also throw in DIA. FBI and DEA more or less too, although it might be easier to get into FBI/DEA without a degree if you have SF experience in the military.
Cheers,
He didn't say necessary. He said it's overrated. That is a subtle yet important difference. I contend in many cases it is both necessary and overrated.
bandit88
04-06-2010, 11:38 AM
If you go for CS, Math, Engineering, Bio, Economics, etc then you are "playing a different sport" as far as college goes, IMO.
especially Mechanical Engineering ;)
BigAls87Z28
04-06-2010, 11:38 AM
To be fair Commie, not everyone here wants to work for the NSA/CIA.
You also cant have a degree in zoology to work for the CIA either. Im pretty sure it would have to be somewhat focused, as well as having some knowledge of foreign affairs.
To be fair Commie, not everyone here wants to work for the NSA/CIA.
You also cant have a degree in zoology to work for the CIA either. Im pretty sure it would have to be somewhat focused, as well as having some knowledge of foreign affairs.
I agree not everyone wants to work for the defense sector, and I did not mean to imply that. I just stated it as an example, because that's the industry I know best, at the moment.
Some people want to have better possibilities than unloading packages for the UPS, or working in Shop rite, so they go to college. It opens up a door to just apply to some other place. Mere application does not guarantee success though. Now, before some smart ass decided to fail at reading, I'm not saying that a degree is necessary to amount to something, but it certainly HELPS, by opening up certain doors. Hell, you need a 4 year degree to apply at target to be an assistant manager. If you can have 25 years of experience and no degree, you will NOT be considered. That 25 year experience will get you 8.50 an hour right about now, if you're lucky to be hired.
As far as zoology goes, you're wrong - to a degree. There are some jobs within those agencies that do NOT care what your degree is in, but they will want one anyways. So yea, you can major in Music, and still work there. You just need a skill that's valuable, language for example.
LS1Hawk
04-06-2010, 01:17 PM
IMO a college education is never a waste as long as you take it seriously. It may not always be necessary, but it will never hold you back.
WildBillyT
04-06-2010, 01:57 PM
Try applying to NSA or the CIA without one. Tell me how it works out.
Edit* I'll also throw in DIA. FBI and DEA more or less too, although it might be easier to get into FBI/DEA without a degree if you have SF experience in the military.
Cheers,
I used to be under the impression that when you graduate college you should have a good understanding of your particular topic of study.
Now that I interview and hire people, I have noticed that the degree means you can apply yourself to learn something- it means very little (in most cases) as far as depth of knowledge and skill. We have to re-train everybody new who comes in to our company, even if they have a degree in the segment they are hired for.
That is your "Epic Fail".
Do you need it to get in the door of a lot of places? Yeah! Do you need it to land the job? Sure. Is it more than an admission ticket in a lot of cases? Nope.
Do you need it to earn a good living? Also no. Does it help? Yeah. But not as much as your Bursar's office would lead you to believe.
JL8Jeff
04-06-2010, 02:06 PM
Let's just say that college doesn't provide you with the skills you need like actual hands on experience will. But, it's tough to get in the door for the interview without some sort of degree. It shouldn't be like that, but it is. Then add the cost of college and the payback time if you do find a job eventually, and it becomes a bigger waste. I had 1 meaningful class in college and it wasn't even tought by a professor, it was a hands on real life situation doing computer programming. And that was a 10 week semester! :shock:
I used to be under the impression that when you graduate college you should have a good understanding of your particular topic of study.
Now that I interview and hire people, I have noticed that the degree means you can apply yourself to learn something- it means very little (in most cases) as far as depth of knowledge and skill. We have to re-train everybody new who comes in to our company, even if they have a degree in the segment they are hired for.
That is your "Epic Fail".
Do you need it to get in the door of a lot of places? Yeah! Do you need it to land the job? Sure. Is it more than an admission ticket in a lot of cases? Nope.
Do you need it to earn a good living? Also no. Does it help? Yeah. But not as much as your Bursar's office would lead you to believe.
I have a pretty good understanding of what I studied, but I suspect that you were talking about GP, not me. As I already pointed out, one does not need a degree to be successful; I'm sure some idiot will bring up Bill Gates, Ted Turner, Mike Dell, Steve Jobs, and bunch more. However, the reality (statistics) for most people without a degree is not that, it's a "9-5" making ~60ish k a year, if that. To some it's great, to some it's not.
As far as "re-training" goes, I find that point worthless. When I get a job I want, I will be send into an academy where I will be taught how to engage multiple targets at the same time, high speed evasion and all that stuff one can NOT learn in too many places. Do you suggest that we just throw new hires under fire and see what happens? That's idiotic, training is a necessity no matter who you hire. In fact if I get hired and a special forces guys from the army gets hired we will undergo the same training... No exceptions. I'm not exactly sure what you do, but I hope you weren't applying your point to everybody.
WildBillyT
04-06-2010, 02:56 PM
I have a pretty good understanding of what I studied, but I suspect that you were talking about GP, not me. As I already pointed out, one does not need a degree to be successful; I'm sure some idiot will bring up Bill Gates, Ted Turner, Mike Dell, Steve Jobs, and bunch more. However, the reality (statistics) for most people without a degree is not that, it's a "9-5" making ~60ish k a year, if that. To some it's great, to some it's not.
As far as "re-training" goes, I find that point worthless. When I get a job I want, I will be send into an academy where I will be taught how to engage multiple targets at the same time, high speed evasion and all that stuff one can NOT learn in too many places. Do you suggest that we just throw new hires under fire and see what happens? That's idiotic, training is a necessity no matter who you hire. In fact if I get hired and a special forces guys from the army gets hired we will undergo the same training... No exceptions. I'm not exactly sure what you do, but I hope you weren't applying your point to everybody.
Perhaps I was unclear. In certain jobs you cannot learn the skills you need elsewhere. I think it's foolish and illogical to think that you are supposed to know EVERYTHING when you graduate college regardless of degree.
But in many (engineering, computer programming, and probably a bunch more) the new hire has to re-learn the basics of what they are supposed to know. Example: I have had Computer Science graduates fail the "entrance test" I decided to implement because they cannot execute a simple JOIN statement in SQL. A few of them had 3.25+ GPAs in their major. I've also had guys that don't know what recursion is. That to me is really really bad. And I'm not alone. I talk to guys I know in many other fields who feel the same way.
It's one thing if you don't know intermediate or advanced topics. Or they can't/don't teach you what you need to know (I guess that's your case?). It is something completely different when people are given a degree and a nice GPA without an understanding of some of the fundamental topics of their field of study. That pisses me off. Especially when hiring somebody is a gamble, and their college performance may be your only clue.
ryanfx
04-06-2010, 04:34 PM
Perhaps I was unclear. In certain jobs you cannot learn the skills you need elsewhere. I think it's foolish and illogical to think that you are supposed to know EVERYTHING when you graduate college regardless of degree.
But in many (engineering, computer programming, and probably a bunch more) the new hire has to re-learn the basics of what they are supposed to know. Example: I have had Computer Science graduates fail the "entrance test" I decided to implement because they cannot execute a simple JOIN statement in SQL. A few of them had 3.25+ GPAs in their major. I've also had guys that don't know what recursion is. That to me is really really bad. And I'm not alone. I talk to guys I know in many other fields who feel the same way.
It's one thing if you don't know intermediate or advanced topics. Or they can't/don't teach you what you need to know (I guess that's your case?). It is something completely different when people are given a degree and a nice GPA without an understanding of some of the fundamental topics of their field of study. That pisses me off. Especially when hiring somebody is a gamble, and their college performance may be your only clue.
Not knowing SQL statements is one thing... computer science is more about logic and application than it is specifics like web design and database access. Recursion on the other hand.. there should be no excuse for not knowing it.
Little G
04-06-2010, 04:37 PM
Sorry, Eric, for opening up this can of worms. I'll just finish it off by saying I do not discourage going to college, I just think it's overrated. I can say that I got to where I am by a lot of hard work but I probably would have gotten there sooner had I finished school. But it just begs the question, how hard of a worker would I be today had I not the need to work as hard to get to where I am now.
Anyway, let's get back on topic here. Have you tried temp agencies yet? I had plenty of luck with Today's Staffing - I worked really well with them and they gave me a few choices. Lucky I picked the right one ;) .
Any other suggestions?
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But in many (engineering, computer programming, and probably a bunch more) the new hire has to re-learn the basics of what they are supposed to know. Example: I have had Computer Science graduates fail the "entrance test" I decided to implement because they cannot execute a simple JOIN statement in SQL. A few of them had 3.25+ GPAs in their major. I've also had guys that don't know what recursion is. That to me is really really bad. And I'm not alone. I talk to guys I know in many other fields who feel the same way. :lol: WOOOSH :lol:
It's one thing if you don't know intermediate or advanced topics. Or they can't/don't teach you what you need to know (I guess that's your case?).
My problem, more or less, is government inefficiency and my "Russian-ness". Ex: I applied somewhere in October of 2009, I heard back from them in March of 2010, I will have an "assessment" at the end of April. Everything is too slow, but the job is sweet, so I have to jump through the hoops. Just because I'll waste, possibly, two years on this does not mean that I will get the job, as it was already proven to me. I'm sure if I grew up in NJ behind a white picket fence, I would already have what I originally wanted. But I have lived in 5 different countries, and 25+ different place, I'm also a dual citizen - all of those are not "cool" when it comes to handing out TS clearances.
On the other hand there's the private sector, which I really have no interest in, but they are efficient. I applied for a job today (10am), they got back to me today (3pm).... I will have an interview by the end of this week. But do I want the job? No.
Squirrel
04-06-2010, 09:31 PM
well i have a final interview tomorrow for one company and am waiting till monday to see if i get an offer from another
WildBillyT
04-06-2010, 09:42 PM
well i have a final interview tomorrow for one company and am waiting till monday to see if i get an offer from another
Good luck, man. Sorry for the hijack.
Tru2Chevy
04-06-2010, 09:50 PM
Good luck Eric, let us know how you do.
- Justin
LS1Hawk
04-07-2010, 10:20 AM
Good luck, man. Let us know how it went.
Firebird
04-07-2010, 09:47 PM
join the coast guard
Had an interview today, never heard a person using so many "umms", "ooh", "aaa", mainly "umms" though. I kinda felt like I was interviewing him, and it was his first time.. What's with people who can't speak?
Anti_Rice_Guy
04-07-2010, 11:06 PM
Had an interview today, never heard a person using so many "umms", "ooh", "aaa", mainly "umms" though. I kinda felt like I was interviewing him, and it was his first time.. What's with people who can't speak?
He heard about your wit :lol:
Jersyboyy
04-08-2010, 02:18 PM
he was from south jersey
BonzoHansen
04-08-2010, 04:28 PM
Had an interview today, never heard a person using so many "umms", "ooh", "aaa", mainly "umms" though. I kinda felt like I was interviewing him, and it was his first time.. What's with people who can't speak?
lol. sounds more like lack of prep.
On the bright side they say the best interviews are the ones where you keep the interviewer talk as much or more than you do!
Alot of friends of mine are jobless, and looking for jobs out of college. So it always boggled me, if I lucked out by getting a steady "neck-down" job right out of high school or not, because I'm sure if I spent alot of money to get me through college and come out jobless for a long time, I'd be very frustrated. Hope the interview went well.
BonzoHansen
04-08-2010, 07:05 PM
Yes, it is very tough right now. Worst market maybe ever for college grads. I feel bad for you guys.
LS1Hawk
04-08-2010, 08:35 PM
I can tell you I have been with my company now for a year and 1 month since I was laid off from my last job in Feb '09. In the time I have been with my current employer there have been 2 big layoffs and a 3rd impending one as there's a big organizational change going on now. It's bad for everyone, recent college grad or experienced professional.
BonzoHansen
04-08-2010, 08:47 PM
I can tell you I have been with my company now for a year and 1 month since I was laid off from my last job in Feb '09. In the time I have been with my current employer there have been 2 big layoffs and a 3rd impending one as there's a big organizational change going on now. It's bad for everyone, recent college grad or experienced professional.
+1 on that. Been there, sweated it out with the other 'survivors'. Watched benefits get cut and become more expensive, no raises for 2 years, all that. Hard to listen to some of the folks in the news who have no idea what the rest of the world faces. (there, that was the best non-political, non-fingerpointing I can muster)
WildBillyT
04-08-2010, 08:51 PM
+1 on that. Been there, sweated it out with the other 'survivors'. Watched benefits get cut and become more expensive, no raises for 2 years, all that. Hard to listen to some of the folks in the news who have no idea what the rest of the world faces. (there, that was the best non-political, non-fingerpointing I can muster)
Yup. Add in "having to fire some close friends" and I agree 100%.
JL8Jeff
04-08-2010, 09:20 PM
Had an interview today, never heard a person using so many "umms", "ooh", "aaa", mainly "umms" though. I kinda felt like I was interviewing him, and it was his first time.. What's with people who can't speak?
I've been on those interviews and it made me think "why would I want to work for you?" and I lost interest in the job and company. But that was a long time ago, not in today's market. I keep trying to get my company to hire some fresh out of school programmers because we are so swamped with work it will take us 5 years to catch up. Nope, they don't think they can afford it! :shock: It makes no sense at all and it's running all of us into the ground to the point we are making mistakes now. I guess if somebody makes a $40K mistake each year then maybe it can be justified. :shrug:
LS1Hawk
04-09-2010, 05:44 AM
+1 on that. Been there, sweated it out with the other 'survivors'. Watched benefits get cut and become more expensive, no raises for 2 years, all that. Hard to listen to some of the folks in the news who have no idea what the rest of the world faces. (there, that was the best non-political, non-fingerpointing I can muster)
Are you sure we don't work at the same place? :lol:
BonzoHansen
04-09-2010, 06:58 AM
Are you sure we don't work at the same place? :lol:
same place, just a different name on the sign
spina74
04-09-2010, 07:22 AM
Had an interview today, never heard a person using so many "umms", "ooh", "aaa", mainly "umms" though. I kinda felt like I was interviewing him, and it was his first time.. What's with people who can't speak?
http://i827.photobucket.com/albums/zz193/spina74/boss-from-office-space.png
BigAls87Z28
04-09-2010, 09:46 AM
Had an interview today, never heard a person using so many "umms", "ooh", "aaa", mainly "umms" though. I kinda felt like I was interviewing him, and it was his first time.. What's with people who can't speak?
Probably has a college degree...what a dumbass.
Has anyone written an autobiography for an interview before? How should I start this bad boy? I have no problem writing about myself, I just don't know how to kick things off, the rest is cake.
Side note, is it just me, or is this a pretty weird request?
Anti_Rice_Guy
04-15-2010, 06:31 PM
Has anyone written an autobiography for an interview before? How should I start this bad boy? I have no problem writing about myself, I just don't know how to kick things off, the rest is cake.
Side note, is it just me, or is this a pretty weird request?
Once upon a time? It was a dark and stormy night?
Seriously though, I've never heard of that.
WildBillyT
04-15-2010, 07:25 PM
Has anyone written an autobiography for an interview before? How should I start this bad boy? I have no problem writing about myself, I just don't know how to kick things off, the rest is cake.
Side note, is it just me, or is this a pretty weird request?
No, and yes. That is pretty strange. But based on your aforementioned job paths it may not be out of order.
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