View Full Version : Kids kicked off campus for wearing american apparel
BurninrubberGT
05-06-2010, 01:31 PM
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36981179/ns/local_news-san_francisco_bay_area_ca/
wow.....just wow
Blacdout96
05-06-2010, 01:49 PM
You know what,**** those who were offended, plain and simple. The girls argument is stupid, America really doesnt even ackowledge Cinco De Mayo really, it's just been brought over since the spanish population has enlarged considerably. Thank Corona, and other corporations for exploiting it to be recognized by Americans. Sorry, but I can see her point if they were wearing them in Mexico, but In America, respect the American flag 365 days of the year, even when foreign holidays are taking place.
I don't care how old that girl is that was offended, makes me want to punt her ass in the back of a border patrol truck and drop her off on the otherside.
LS1Hawk
05-06-2010, 01:55 PM
I think what's even more ridiculous is that the kids were on "brunch break."
BurninrubberGT
05-06-2010, 01:59 PM
You know what,**** those who were offended, plain and simple. The girls argument is stupid, America really doesnt even ackowledge Cinco De Mayo really, it's just been brought over since the spanish population has enlarged considerably. Thank Corona, and other corporations for exploiting it to be recognized by Americans. Sorry, but I can see her point if they were wearing them in Mexico, but In America, respect the American flag 365 days of the year, even when foreign holidays are taking place.
I don't care how old that girl is that was offended, makes me want to punt her ass in the back of a border patrol truck and drop her off on the otherside.
pretty much sums up my opinion :nod:
edpontiac91
05-06-2010, 02:01 PM
THAT IS TOTAL:bs: This is America FIRST! Just because every DAMM package has a SPANISH text to it (GO to Mexico and see how many packages have two languages printed on it) does not mean we DON'T have the RIGHT to wear an AMERICAN:usa:FLAG ANYTIME I WANT TO. If I was the parent of any of those kids there would be some serious:nutkick:stuff going down!
Knipps
05-06-2010, 02:03 PM
ibtl.
people got offended, school overreacted.
band77one
05-06-2010, 02:27 PM
wtf is ibtl lol
Anti_Rice_Guy
05-06-2010, 02:29 PM
wtf is ibtl lol
in before the lock
NastyEllEssWon
05-06-2010, 02:38 PM
honestly to people that said america doesnt celebrate the cinco de mayo have probably never lived in California. its as big as the fourth of july over there with a HUGE mexican-american population....
that said they overreacted....it happens...especially in california
I see Cohen v. California in this, kinda. Quick profit, go go go.
Green_Phoenix_LT1
05-06-2010, 02:59 PM
I wonder if it would of been offensive if I wore my military uniform on cinco de mayo. Its just as meaningful of wearing an American Flag shirt. I could understand if the shirt said something like mexico sucks with and American flag pissing on it or something but it was just an old navy t-shirt with a flag on it that is just a graphic t-shirt. And i do concur with Nasty that California over reacts to almost everything. I have spent enough time there to know.
Blacdout96
05-06-2010, 03:15 PM
So would they have been offended if the kids wore a French, or a German flag on their shirts? I have a sneaking suspicion they wouldn't. I feel that the kids who were "offended" and told the V.P. had intentions of getting these kids in trouble before hand, I feel it's more they were offended by the kids, and not what they wore, using Cinco De mayo, being a Spanish holiday, gave them an opportunity, a reason to get these kids in trouble.
NastyEllEssWon
05-06-2010, 03:24 PM
trust me man, california is just an extension of mexico under government control. its california and they overreact over everything and anything. everything out there is so politically correct its kinda scary.
LS1ow
05-06-2010, 03:30 PM
i can understand having to remove the bandana(i know most schools dont allow head coverings of anytype, i know mine doesnt) but thats for a different reason. havin to remove the shirts is total BS. i know if my teacher or whoever told me to change my shirt cuz it has an american flag on it id tell them to go F**K themselves.
this is america, support us, or leave.
Blacdout96
05-06-2010, 03:42 PM
trust me man, california is just an extension of mexico under government control. its california and they overreact over everything and anything. everything out there is so politically correct its kinda scary.
Yeah, when I go to Monteray for the historics, everyone there is of spanish decent, my hotel is near strawberry farms, it looks like a million man march....to go pick fruit lol, but it's amazing how the town is cleaned up for a week, and you don't see one, and then when the event is done, they roll right back into the area. Then again, Celina's Cal. is northern, I've never been southern, so I can only imagine
i can understand having to remove the bandana(i know most schools dont allow head coverings of any type, i know mine doesnt)
that's true, I'm sure that may be what set the kids off.
NjbadSS
05-06-2010, 05:03 PM
absolutely disgusting...what is this country coming to?!
fmybody
05-06-2010, 05:09 PM
its all stupid.. nobody should care what flag who wheres whenever they wear it..
there may be more to the story like... maybe the kids nevery acted patriotic until today just to tick off the mexicans or just to start trouble.. or just for attention....
and even if they did it was stupid for anyone to react in anyway IMO of course....
who cares... wear what u wanna wear whenever u wear it..
as long as hes not screaming (GO BACK WHERE U CAME FROM!) while pointing at his shirt i see no reason to get offended
T69SS
05-06-2010, 07:10 PM
That truly disgusts me. The fact that some "educator" feels its necessary to tell a student to remove his American flag shirt is rediculous. Because it's cinco de mayo?? SO what. It doesnt matter what day it is. What country are we in?? O yea... America.
procamaroz28
05-06-2010, 08:18 PM
honestly to people that said america doesnt celebrate the cinco de mayo have probably never lived in California. its as big as the fourth of july over there with a HUGE mexican-american population....
that said they overreacted....it happens...especially in california
well at one point that whole half of the country was mexico...
but still thats pretty sad to hear that this happened...
Frosty
05-06-2010, 09:21 PM
"They said we could wear it on any other day," Daniel Galli said, "but today is sensitive to Mexican-Americans because it's supposed to be their holiday so we were not allowed to wear it today.
That right there sums up how that area thinks....
I'm all for equal rights for everyone and all of that stuff...but what a typical knee-jerk reaction, people are so afraid to offend others it's ridiculous.
One thing to keep in mind that I'm sure there was a motive behind the kids wearing that shirt on that day but hey, it's freedom of speech. Nothing was harmful or threatening or derogatory.
String
05-06-2010, 09:25 PM
.....only in california. Actually, only in america......
BigAls87Z28
05-06-2010, 10:28 PM
I thought Cinco De Mayo was a rather small holiday. Its not the Mexican Independance day, its just the day that a bunch of Mexican army troops were out numberd and beat the french? I thought it was primary a regional holiday for a certain part of Mexico, not the whole country. It would be like if the "Union" states celebrated the end of the Civil War.
Odd part is...the American flag shirts were prob not made in America. Sad stuff.
bubba428
05-06-2010, 11:40 PM
They don't celebrate the 4th of July there so why should we acknowledge the 5th of May??? As far as I'm concerned, if they want to be "Mexican-Americans" they shouldn't be offended by the flag. They want the freedom to express themselves as long as everyone else has to go along with it.
BonzoHansen
05-07-2010, 08:25 AM
Cinco De Mayo is basically an American holiday, although the Corona connection is spot on. They don't celebrate it in Mexico.
A guy local to this posted up on another site. He says it boils down to a handful of kids were doing the American flag thing explicitly to start trouble and the principal stopped it. The local area is like 80% Hispanic. IMO he was totally wrong, but there is somewhat of a back story.
I'm still waiting for a law suit, what's taking so long? :lol:
BonzoHansen
05-07-2010, 09:06 AM
lol
Blacdout96
05-07-2010, 09:21 AM
I'm still waiting for a law suit, what's taking so long? :lol:
They can't just "rush" to their lawyers, they're driving their smug Prius, may take a day or two lol.
T69SS
05-07-2010, 09:21 AM
I'm still waiting for a law suit, what's taking so long? :lol:
Im sure one will arise eventually lol
They can't just "rush" to their lawyers, they're driving their smug Prius, may take a day or two lol.
:lol:
I guess they should have gotten the one with the "go fast" pedal, people have been raving about it!
Nitr0racing21
05-07-2010, 10:12 AM
I would love to walk in that school next May 5th(here in america its Called MAY 5th, with the biggest ****ing flag on I could find............ Welcome to america speak english or get the **** out!
qwikz28
05-07-2010, 10:13 AM
I see Cohen v. California in this, kinda. Quick profit, go go go.
kids in schools don't have the same rights as other people in public places. It wouldn't be so easy, but they could probably still prevail.
Blacdout96
05-07-2010, 10:18 AM
IDK, I could see them offended if they wore French flags since that's who attacked the mexican army that day (thou were defeated) but even if the kids wree tryign to get a rift out of the kids atthe school, the V.P. handled it poorly
kids in schools don't have the same rights as other people in public places. It wouldn't be so easy, but they could probably still prevail.
Wouldn't the freedom of expression still be covered in a public school? I know school can have their own rule sand all, but I was under the impression that basic liberties could not be infringed in a public place, regardless. I mean, I'm sure court houses have their own "rules" like schools do, but that didn't work in their favor. Am I off base here?
BonzoHansen
05-07-2010, 10:20 AM
Wouldn't the freedom of expression still be covered in a public school? I know school can have their own rule sand all, but I was under the impression that basic liberties could not be infringed in a public place, regardless. I mean, I'm sure court houses have their own "rules" like schools do, but that didn't work in their favor. Am I off base here?
off base. schools can uphold dress codes and such. already been through courts.
maroman88
05-07-2010, 10:25 AM
IDK, I could see them offended if they wore French flags since that's who attacked the mexican army that day (thou were defeated) but even if the kids wree tryign to get a rift out of the kids atthe school, the V.P. handled it poorly
and u think theyd even have a clue about this??!! lol
Blacdout96
05-07-2010, 10:29 AM
LOL!!! true, listening to the interview of the girl that sai d they should apologize, she was tryign to stay away from any technical info of why that day was important. they're high school kids, I'm sure maybe a handful of kids there fully understand the signifigance of it. I live in New Jersey and I know more abotu it then they do for gods sake!!!! lol
SteveR
05-07-2010, 04:47 PM
edit- bad joke nvm
BigAls87Z28
05-07-2010, 06:44 PM
So basicly a bunch of PITA kids were gunna use the flag as protection, they were asked to leave, and everyone is up in arms on both sides.
Overreaction to a very touchy subject that will somehow become some talking point for both sides.
BonzoHansen
05-07-2010, 08:09 PM
In a nutshell, yes.
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