Street racing fo sho

[LTb1ow]

Dunno, hope no one on here is related or knows em..


http://www.dailyrecord.com/article/20100621/UPDATES01/100621059/NJ+man+killed+in+GS+Parkway+drag+racing+accident++ police+say

[NastyEllEssWon]

no bueno

[Blacdout96]

ha, I'm from G-way, don't know the guy, but good riddence, just means Im gonna have to go junk yard hopping soon to find a 01 Camaro

[NastyEllEssWon]

ha, I'm from G-way, don't know the guy, but good riddence, just means Im gonna have to go junk yard hopping soon to find a 01 Camaro




thats bad karma for youuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu :lol:

[Blacdout96]

lol, a V6 can only do so much damage, and only go so fast. I think at the speeds our cars produce, it would be luck to get up on it's side, let alone flip several times :lol:

[WildBillyT]

Great, looks like I gotta dig up my "Street racing vs Drag racing" email and send it to Chuckie Webster...

[sweetbmxrider]

thats a shame

[NastyEllEssWon]

lol, a V6 can only do so much damage, and only go so fast. I think at the speeds our cars produce, it would be luck to get up on it's side, let alone flip several times :lol:




how do you know he wasnt in a six cylinder?

[maroman88]

thats sucks... poor camaro :(

[deadtrend1]

how do you know he wasnt in a six cylinder?

because the report would have said Z28 if it was a 8 cylinder.... DUUUHHHHH!

[Tru2Chevy]

Great, looks like I gotta dig up my "Street racing vs Drag racing" email and send it to Chuckie Webster...

Yes, most definitely.

- Justin

[Slow-V6]

Man people dying at the track and on the street, racing!!

lol, a V6 can only do so much damage, and only go so fast. I think at the speeds our cars produce, it would be luck to get up on it's side, let alone flip several times :lol:

My V6 Firebird trapped 118mph in the 1/4!!

[madness410]

the difference is at the track you dont put innocent peoples lives in jeopardy

[baddest434]

sorry i feel bad about the car not the douche driving it!!!!!!!!!!!!

[transmaro93]

just another story of ignorance... sad somebody had to die but at least it was him and not some innocent family driving home. he took the risk and it didnt pay off. If you like that type of racing so much do auto-x if not save it for the track..

[T69SS]

One race = your life. Definitely not worth it

[Slow-V6]

the difference is at the track you dont put innocent peoples lives in jeopardy

I watched some people in the grand stands get hit with cars and parts off of cars!! I am not saying that Street Racing is right what I am saying is Racing either on the street or on the track is dangerous and it puts lives at risk either way!!

You mean to tell me you never got on your car on the road? That puts lives at risk! If anything else your own life!


BTW.... Love your avatar!!

"Put me in coach I am ready!!"

[WildBillyT]

I watched some people in the grand stands get hit with cars and parts off of cars!! I am not saying that Street Racing is right what I am saying is Racing either on the street or on the track is dangerous and it puts lives at risk either way!!

You mean to tell me you never got on your car on the road? That puts lives at risk! If anything else your own life!


BTW.... Love your avatar!!

"Put me in coach I am ready!!"

The argument is not about which is more safe. Although track racing will win that every time.

Mislabeling illegally screwing around on the highway as drag racing gives legitamate drag racing/racers a bad name. Not something that we need, especially in an area when there is so much backlash and NIMBY ******** being thrown at our local racetracks every few months.

[Featherburner]

I watched some people in the grand stands get hit with cars and parts off of cars!! I am not saying that Street Racing is right what I am saying is Racing either on the street or on the track is dangerous and it puts lives at risk either way!!People at the track, in the stands, accept the risk of injury or death. People on the street didn't sigh on to end up in the middle of that.

[madness410]

One race = your life. Definitely not worth it

I watched some people in the grand stands get hit with cars and parts off of cars!! I am not saying that Street Racing is right what I am saying is Racing either on the street or on the track is dangerous and it puts lives at risk either way!!

You mean to tell me you never got on your car on the road? That puts lives at risk! If anything else your own life!


BTW.... Love your avatar!!

"Put me in coach I am ready!!"


yeah but how often does that happen compared to how many innocent people are killed crossing the street, collisions, etc. by street racing. billy is right the people at the track sign up for it and are accepting the fact that can happen.

im not saying i never got on my car...i open it up every now and then but i never get to the speed where i can flip it several times and run it into a tree...

i like my avatar too..."roger padactor didnt commit suicide...he was...:::swings head from side to side:::...MURDERED"

[BigRocsFirebird]

poor guy. i'm sure all of you have raced someone on the street at least once in your lifetime. he doesn't deserve to die just because he was being stupid. but street racing is stupid i don't do it i live close enough to atco

[Slow-V6]

People at the track, in the stands, accept the risk of injury or death. People on the street didn't sigh on to end up in the middle of that.

No but people who drive on the roads know the risk of driving and its sad to say it but street racing is one of those risks! I see at least 1 street race a day! I see alot of people just beating on there cars everyday leaving from red lights and what not. I also see just about everybody in the 45 zone on 295 doing 70 mph plus!! And dont let me get on the bikes! These are all risks that we all take when we drive wether we are the ones that are doing the infractions or are just the people that are driving home from work! My job is all about travel. I got my work van with 5000 miles on it in March 2009 and now it has 43,000 miles on it!!

poor guy. i'm sure all of you have raced someone on the street at least once in your lifetime.

Exactly!!

[WildBillyT]

No but people who drive on the roads know the risk of driving and its sad to say it but street racing is one of those risks! I see at least 1 street race a day! I see alot of people just beating on there cars everyday leaving from red lights and what not. I also see just about everybody in the 45 zone on 295 doing 70 mph plus!! And dont let me get on the bikes! These are all risks that we all take when we drive wether we are the ones that are doing the infractions or are just the people that are driving home from work! My job is all about travel. I got my work van with 5000 miles on it in March 2009 and now it has 43,000 miles on it!!

Automobile accidents are an assumed risk, that's for sure. Being hit at 100+ or dealing with somebody flying by at that speed is not generally assumed.

[Slow-V6]

Automobile accidents are an assumed risk, that's for sure. Being hit at 100+ or dealing with somebody flying by at that speed is not generally assumed.


I dont know what Highways you drive on but people doing 80 in a 55 or 45mph is pretty Common on 42,76,476 and 295. I usually do 10 over but I still get passed like I am standing still on most highways!

So if I am doing 65mph in a 55 zone and a car is passing me doing 80mph and loses control and hits me is that an accident or is that the person being stupid for driving 80 in a 55??

In the Goverment eyes I think that Recklass driving speeding starts at 20 over. So if you get caught doing 75 in a 55 or 55 in a 35 then you are a dangerous driver in the goverments eyes!

[Firebird92]

as i see it everytime you get in a car on the street or track, you take the risk that you may not come home that day.

but it's all about control knowing your limit he just found his the hard way

[BonzoHansen]

I dont know what Highways you drive on but people doing 80 in a 55 or 45mph is pretty Common on 42,76,476 and 295. I usually do 10 over but I still get passed like I am standing still on most highways!

So if I am doing 65mph in a 55 zone and a car is passing me doing 80mph and loses control and hits me is that an accident or is that the person being stupid for driving 80 in a 55??

In the Goverment eyes I think that Recklass driving speeding starts at 20 over. So if you get caught doing 75 in a 55 or 55 in a 35 then you are a dangerous driver in the goverments eyes!that person is being stupid. And 55 in a 35 is reckless.

I'll give you this, you do work very hard to justify your actions. The 'other people are doing it' argument is just as weak now as it was when you are 10, but you are more persuasive than a 10 year old.

[WildBillyT]

I dont know what Highways you drive on but people doing 80 in a 55 or 45mph is pretty Common on 42,76,476 and 295. I usually do 10 over but I still get passed like I am standing still on most highways!

So if I am doing 65mph in a 55 zone and a car is passing me doing 80mph and loses control and hits me is that an accident or is that the person being stupid for driving 80 in a 55??

In the Goverment eyes I think that Recklass driving speeding starts at 20 over. So if you get caught doing 75 in a 55 or 55 in a 35 then you are a dangerous driver in the goverments eyes!

I do not completely understand what you are trying to say. But I'll reply anyway.

I have driven all of the highways you are talking about many times. All can be bad but not awful. Try Rt 78 between Clinton NJ and Easton PA. Up and down mountains with many overloaded tractor trailers doing 80+ on uneven pavement. IMO that's the most dangerous with little competition. But everybody who drives it knows what it's like and understands what's going on. I do not know any public road in NJ where having a number of cars in a pack doing 100+ at the same time is the norm.

[LTb1ow]

http://www.app.com/article/20100622/NEWS/6220332/Carnage-described-in-racing-deaths

For the idiots that street race, its not only your life you put on the line....

[WildBillyT]

http://www.app.com/article/20100622/NEWS/6220332/Carnage-described-in-racing-deaths

For the idiots that street race, its not only your life you put on the line....

That article was not about street racing, it was about reckless driving.

[LTb1ow]

Its being argued that they were street racing, and their actions resulted in the deaths of those random kids.

I think they had been officially "racing" earlier... anyway, it was two guys being idiots in traffic... IMO that gets clumped in with "street racing"...

[Firebird92]

well they wasn't charge with "street racing"

this is reckless driving. the main topic here was there was someone racing and died we know that for a fact. these guys could have just be traveling at excessive speeds.

i know people here been at a light, took off and had someone try to past or fellow them i don't call that racing

[Slow-V6]

You ever see the video of the guy crossing a street at a crosswalk and a SUV runs the redlight and runs him over while he is walking? Guess that guy was street racing!! How about the car a couple weeks ago on 76 that got run over by a semi truck? Guess that truck was street racing also!!

I hit it from a redlight last night!! Guess I am an idiot as well!!

[NastyEllEssWon]

wow your still arguing this???? ANYTHING you do there is an assumed risk. the difference is whether that risk can be reduced by not acting stupidly.


lets say theres a 50/50 shot of you getting in an accident while driving. now lets say someone else gets on that road and has the same 50/50 shot but theyre street racing and driving like an idiot. now their 50/50 shot gets increased to say 75/25 at the same time inadvertently raising your assumed risk. is it fair to the person thats driving normally to have their assumed risk factor raised because of some idiot having ''fun???''

[Featherburner]

You ever see the video of the guy crossing a street at a crosswalk and a SUV runs the redlight and runs him over while he is walking? Guess that guy was street racing!! How about the car a couple weeks ago on 76 that got run over by a semi truck? Guess that truck was street racing also!!

I hit it from a redlight last night!! Guess I am an idiot as well!!Really?
You should stop! It seems everyone can see it but you.

[madness410]

as much as i hate to say it...i agree with nasty

[NastyEllEssWon]

its how insurance works pretty much.


take the assumed risk of everyone, add on the assumed risk based upon age, location of the vehicle where its parked, record of the person driving the car, percentage of said vehicles that have been wrecked already, plus the risk factor of the said options of the car in question.


plus a bunch of other jazz

[Slow-V6]

Really?
You should stop! It seems everyone can see it but you.


Stop what? Going through 1st gear hard with Traction control on? Okay I will get right on that!!

[Slow-V6]

wow your still arguing this???? ANYTHING you do there is an assumed risk. the difference is whether that risk can be reduced by not acting stupidly.


lets say theres a 50/50 shot of you getting in an accident while driving. now lets say someone else gets on that road and has the same 50/50 shot but theyre street racing and driving like an idiot. now their 50/50 shot gets increased to say 75/25 at the same time inadvertently raising your assumed risk. is it fair to the person thats driving normally to have their assumed risk factor raised because of some idiot having ''fun???''

Now lets say you have a 50/50 chance of getting into a accident. You follow the speed limits and the law to the T. Now there is another driver that does 10 over the speed limit and doesnt use there turn signals!! Now there 50/50 shot gets increased to how much now? Like you said ANYTHING you do there is an assumed risk. the difference is whether that risk can be reduced by not acting stupidly. Do you think speeding is stupid? Do you think not using signals is stupid?


Whats the most Dangerous thing you do in life everyday? For me its driving and its not because of street racing. Its because there are 8 million people living in the Philly Metro area and like 16 million living in the NYC Metro Area!! Lots of different driving skills on the road at the same time.

I bet you that almost everyone on this board does over the speed limit wether it be 5mph or 20mph over! I also bet that if everyone starts doing the speed limit it would lower there risk of getting into a accident and seriously injuring someone. Will people do this? No.

Street Racing is illegal and most of you all say the people who street race are idiots and what not. Speeding is also illegal but yet people seem to not care about that!! I bet more people get killed from Speeding accidents each year then from Street racing accidents!!

Why dont people post articles of Speeding accidents? They are way more common and Since no one on this board street races or ever street raced, would be more benificial in perhaps getting people to slow down!!

[WildBillyT]

.

Street Racing is illegal and most of you all say the people who street race are idiots and what not. Speeding is also illegal but yet people seem to not care about that!! I bet more people get killed from Speeding accidents each year then from Street racing accidents!!

Why dont people post articles of Speeding accidents? They are way more common and Since no one on this board street races or ever street raced, would be more benificial in perhaps getting people to slow down!!

ARE YOU SERIOUS?

There are WAY more people speeding than there are street racing. The numbers are astronomically different. That's exactly why the numbers are the way they are. It's because of a large population size. Street racing gets press because it's typically a catastropic accident with flips, fire, swerving, and recklessness coupled with excessive speeding and an arrogance regarding control of a vehicle.

Doing a steady 80 in a 65 is one thing, but the kinetics dynamics of a car racing down the highway are very different. Different enough to make street racing more dangerous then speeding since there are so many more variables in the equation.

[Slow-V6]

ARE YOU SERIOUS?

There are WAY more people speeding than there are street racing. The numbers are astronomically different. That's exactly why the numbers are the way they are. It's because of a large population size. Street racing gets press because it's typically a catastropic accident with flips, fire, swerving, and recklessness coupled with excessive speeding and an arrogance regarding control of a vehicle.

Doing a steady 80 in a 65 is one thing, but the kinetics dynamics of a car racing down the highway are very different. Different enough to make street racing more dangerous then speeding since there are so many more variables in the equation.

So its OK to speed because everyone is doing it?

Your risk factor for a accident goes up every mph above the posted Speed limit! I agree with you on how Street Racing is more dangerous then just speeding but since there are so many people that speed and there are so many more accidents because of people doing 10-15 mph over the speed limit I think you are more likely to get hit by a person who is just speeding and cant stop in time then to get hit by 2 cars that are racing.

I got into 3 accidents in my life. 2 of them I was on the recieving side because the car behind me could not stop in time and I got my front bumper knocked off by a speeding car that ran a red light. The other accident was my fault because I couldnt stop in time and ran into the back of a Elantra on base. MY last accident was 2002. 2 of those accidents had to do with speeding and not able to stop in time, the other was someone in rush and ran a red light. Luckly all the accidents happend on roads with a 45mph speed limit.

Yes Street racing accidents usually ends in a death of some sort but there are hundreds of speeding accidents each day I bet that end in a death also!! Both also include innocent people most of the time!

One more question. Have you ever raced your car on the street??

[Frosty]

Dude why do you end every sentence with "!"?

So going 50mph in a 40 zone causes accidents? STUPIDITY causes accidents, horrible drivers causes accidents. I'm sure we've all street raced before, no one is disputing that but it's like you're trying to justify it because innocent people are hurt from regular car accidents.

I would love to see the % of deaths from "street racing" accidents and regular every day accidents....I bet you wouldn't like the answer. Comparing street racing to people going 10-15 over the speed limit is ridiculous(no offense)

[Slow-V6]

People cause accidents and people cause street racing accidents. Your point? More people get hurt and killed each year by regular accidents which are moslty caused by going to fast and not able to stop in time, or not using signals wether it be your horrible driving or you following to close which is still a persons fault. Speed Limits are there for a reason. If you obey the law by not street racing then why defy it by speeding? You think its safer to speed then to do the speed limit?

I would also like to see how many people dye because of speeding accidents per day vrs how many people dye from street racing accidents per day..

[LTb1ow]

http://www.wiltonlibrary.org/blogs/teens/uploads/tie-dye.jpg

dye... heh...

[Frosty]

So just so we're on the same page here....

Doing 10-15mph over is just as dangerous, just as bad as street racing which could easily reach speeds of 100+.....usually on non-highway roads....one is NOT the same as the other. It's almost like some wacko Christians saying one sin is no worse than the other(so stealing a piece of bread is on the same level as murder).

So let me throw this past you. If you're on the AC Expressway and the flow of traffic is going 75mph, and you're doing 55mph in the right lane...who is more dangerous, the pack of cars or the guy doing 55? Take the speed limit out of the equation for a second and answer.

[Slow-V6]

Comparing street racing to people going 10-15 over the speed limit is ridiculous(no offense)

I dont know about you but I dont worry about if someone is going to run in to me today because of them street racing. What I worry about is if a person is going to cut me off because I am going to slow and the person wants to get around me or if the car behind me is going to stop in time When I brake or if this guy next to me sees me and doesnt try to make a lane change into me.

[Frosty]

You're listing a million different scenarios, not all of which involve speeding.

Also, if you're the slow guy in the right lane(not saying you drive like that) then YOU'RE the hazard, YOU'RE the one causing a possible accident.

(again just saying you as a term, not saying you personally drive like that)

[Slow-V6]

So just so we're on the same page here....

Doing 10-15mph over is just as dangerous, just as bad as street racing which could easily reach speeds of 100+.....usually on non-highway roads....one is NOT the same as the other. It's almost like some wacko Christians saying one sin is no worse than the other(so stealing a piece of bread is on the same level as murder).

So let me throw this past you. If you're on the AC Expressway and the flow of traffic is going 75mph, and you're doing 55mph in the right lane...who is more dangerous, the pack of cars or the guy doing 55? Take the speed limit out of the equation for a second and answer.


How many people dye each day because of typical accidents which includes speeding?

No. Doing over 100mph street racing or just hauling ass is way more dangerous but just like I said before. Every MPH over the speed limit increases your risk of getting into a accident. The faster you go the more at risk you become.

How can you say take the speed limit out of the equation? So if there is no speed limit then who cares if you are doing 75mph or 100mph? The guy doing 55mph in the RIGHT lane is right were he needs to stay. That person becomes a threat if they are in the left lane doing 20mph less then everyone else. So to answer your question. I would say the people doing 75mph. If something happens to a car in the pack like a tire blow out or a deer run in the street then the cars going faster have a less chance of being able to stop in time or have a bigger chance of loosing control of the car when you try to swerve.


Now let me ask you a question. Would there be less accidents in the USA if everyone was obeying the speed limits?

[LTb1ow]

dye != die.


Carry on with the sillyness.

[Slow-V6]

You're listing a million different scenarios, not all of which involve speeding.

Also, if you're the slow guy in the right lane(not saying you drive like that) then YOU'RE the hazard, YOU'RE the one causing a possible accident.

(again just saying you as a term, not saying you personally drive like that)



People trying to go around me pretty much means they are speeding faster then me.

So you would rather have the slow car drive in the left lane then the right lane ??

[Slow-V6]

dye != die.


Carry on with the sillyness.

I dont spell to good!!

How the hell do you have almost 1,000,000 posts?

[NastyEllEssWon]

you are looking at the equation wrong man.


lets say 1 million people drive per day. out of that 1 million 20k people die from accidents.

now lets say out of that 1 million people driving there are 20k people street racing. Of those 20k people street racing 12k of them died.


now lets look at the numbers. 20k people of 1 million is a lesser percentage of people dying than the 12k of the 20k.


how is this possible??? because more people that are driving...albeit safely or dangerously, there are simply more people. this makes the risk factor actually less than those that are actually taking the larger risk of which more people get seriously hurt or caused death from the more dangerous activity.


whens the last time you heard ''oh they were street racing and it resulted in a minor fender bender.'' almost never...because a higher percentage of those that crash street racing are caught in serious life threatening accidents. those that were speeding (say 65 in a 55) have a better chance of surviving someone clipping your back end.

[Slow-V6]

Speeding-related crashes resulted in 13,192 fatalities in 2004. (National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, NHTSA, 2005)

When speed increases from 40 mph to 60 mph, the energy released in a crash more than doubles. (IIHS, 2003)

http://www.saferoads.org/issues/fs-speed.htm

[LTb1ow]

I dont spell to good!!

How the hell do you have almost 1,000,000 posts?

I am all that is awesome.

[NastyEllEssWon]

i wasnt speaking real freaking figures goddammit.


using your figures though from 40-60 the energy from the crash doubles.....no how many people are street racing from 40-60???? look at youtube....most of the races START FROM A ROLL at that speed....so how much do you think theyre multiplying that figure (double the energy double the risk from speeding) and then EXCEEDING that figure.

[Slow-V6]

you are looking at the equation wrong man.


lets say 1 million people drive per day. out of that 1 million 20k people die from accidents.

now lets say out of that 1 million people driving there are 20k people street racing. Of those 20k people street racing 12k of them died.


now lets look at the numbers. 20k people of 1 million is a lesser percentage of people dying than the 12k of the 20k.


how is this possible??? because more people that are driving...albeit safely or dangerously, there are simply more people. this makes the risk factor actually less than those that are actually taking the larger risk of which more people get seriously hurt or caused death from the more dangerous activity.


whens the last time you heard ''oh they were street racing and it resulted in a minor fender bender.'' almost never...because a higher percentage of those that crash street racing are caught in serious life threatening accidents. those that were speeding (say 65 in a 55) have a better chance of surviving someone clipping your back end.


I understand that completly. It just kills me that everyone is on people for street racing and what not but no one cares about just speeding.

I know that it would be safer if there was no street racing on the roads and everyone seems to agree but I find it funny that no one replies when I ask if the roads would be safer if everyone obeyd the Speed limit? Well would they?

I do 10 over pretty much everywere. I still get passed like I am standing still. Sometimes I have to speed up even faster so that the semi behind me, who wants to do 80, is trying to run me over. Its sad that I have to speed up to feel safer driving which in turns makes my stopping distance shorter and my reaction time shorter also.

[Slow-V6]

i wasnt speaking real freaking figures goddammit.


using your figures though from 40-60 the energy from the crash doubles.....no how many people are street racing from 40-60???? look at youtube....most of the races START FROM A ROLL at that speed....so how much do you think theyre multiplying that figure (double the energy double the risk from speeding) and then EXCEEDING that figure.



Like I said before your risk goes up the faster you go.

[NastyEllEssWon]

thats all we wanted you to admit. that street racing is more dangerous than speeding. speeding is dangerous, no one is debating that, but saying its AS dangerous as street racing is just.....forgive the pun...



http://www.ncs-tech.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/ludicrousspeed.png

[Slow-V6]

I saw someone post before

Is it worth you life and others to street race?

With speeding the cause behind 1/3 of the nations fatal crashes I would have to ask.. Is it worth your life and others to speed?

[LTb1ow]

And Slow, I only made the thread because A) it was a local accident to me B) it was in an FBod.

[Slow-V6]

thats all we wanted you to admit. that street racing is more dangerous than speeding. speeding is dangerous, no one is debating that, but saying its AS dangerous as street racing is just.....forgive the pun...



So would it be safer if everyone did the speed limit?

[Frosty]

So would it be safer if everyone did the speed limit?

In theory but that doesn't negate the fact that most people are complete idiots when they drive, doesn't negate the fact that people are distracted all of the time.

As far as your other question, if you're going to do the the speed limit then you should be in the left lane, period.

Speeding and aggressive driving are different. You can be doing 70 in a 55 and not causing ANY harm, ANY danger to anyone....yet you could just as easily put lives in danger by being a douche bag while still doing the speed limit. To just say speeders cause most accidents is ridiculous.

[WildBillyT]

thats all we wanted you to admit. that street racing is more dangerous than speeding. speeding is dangerous, no one is debating that, but saying its AS dangerous as street racing is just.....forgive the pun...


Yes, that's it!

I live in a world of working and manipulating statistics. I deal with them every day. Speeding is dangerous. So is crossing the street. Or eating a juicy burger. Minimizing risk is what it's all about. Nasty hit on this with his explanation. If you are speeding you are stacking the deck against you a little. If you race on the street you are stacking it against you more, especially at night.

You can also get into physics of vehicles under slight vs. heavy acceleration, working in weight transfer, tire contact, etc if you want to be crazy about it.

[baddest434]

How the hell do you have almost 1,000,000 posts?

he's a whore :lol:

[Mark B]

As far as your other question, if you're going to do the the speed limit then you should be in the left lane, period.

Huh? I hope you meant right lane.

[deadtrend1]

Huh? I hope you meant right lane.

Did you forget hes from PA Mark. I have yet to travel up 476 and not see some idiot with PA plates pacing a tractor trailer thats in the right hand lane, oblivious to the 20-30 cars bumper to bumper in both lanes behind them. :rofl:

[Frosty]

Huh? I hope you meant right lane.

Sorry, typo, it should have said "shouldn't" be in the left lane.

Did you forget hes from PA Mark. I have yet to travel up 476 and not see some idiot with PA plates pacing a tractor trailer thats in the right hand lane, oblivious to the 20-30 cars bumper to bumper in both lanes behind them. :rofl:

Sad but true.....PA drivers are idiots.

[Slow-V6]

Also, if you're the slow guy in the right lane(not saying you drive like that) then YOU'RE the hazard, YOU'RE the one causing a possible accident.

(again just saying you as a term, not saying you personally drive like that)


So should people doing the speed limit be in the right lane or left lane?

[deadtrend1]

So should people doing the speed limit be in the right lane or left lane?

in Pennsylvania, its both! :mrgreen:

[Slow-V6]

in Pennsylvania, its both! :mrgreen:

It doesnt really matter on 76 anyway. You only avg 15mph on that stupid highway!

[Frosty]

So should people doing the speed limit be in the right lane or left lane?

Right lane, I corrected myself and the typo I had up there. That's the law BTW(since you're throwing the law around like it mean something).