Which CAI

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

Between the Moroso, K&N, and The SLP dual filter for the LT1?

I decided on ebay headers(ill have a nice long right up during the install) and i want to do a CAI to open the in since ill have the out wide open. Ill aslo be getting a tune from JS Perfomance. Any input would be great.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

I don't think there's a whole lot of difference. My K&N is pretty quiet and flows enough air. Every person with the SLP I've seen has the paint coming off or a little bit of surface rust. Can't say I've seen a Moroso yet.

[LTb1ow]

K&N here, can't complain much.

[RamAir95TA]

My personal favorite is the SLP dual/dual. While it's the most expensive, it looks the best. :) Every CAI, though, performs the same, so get whatever's cheap!

[smoke_em94]

i would go with the moroso had it on my 93

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

Well i have a chance to pick up an SLP dual setup for 98 shipped.

[deadtrend1]

only thing i noticed with the SLP when I had it is that it got hot.

Are you running the 1LE elbow?

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

i will be putting a smooth elbow on it yes. right now its still the stock with the stupid resonator.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Think the lingenfelter (same as moroso & K&N) is only $159...remember years ago when the Lt1 was the thing guys use to complain about heatsoak w/ the SLP one.

[Slow-V6]

If you are doing a ram air hood then I would just hold off for a Ram air box!

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

I would hold of on a ram air box but its gonna be quite a while before i can afford a a hood and a ram air box. right now the 98 dollar SLP kit is looking pretty good but Im starting to get concerned with the heat issues people are talking about.

[deadtrend1]

.... right now the 98 dollar SLP kit is looking pretty good but Im starting to get concerned with the heat issues people are talking about.

with the power you're stock LT1 is making, the little bit of heat that builds on the metal intake would be the least of your worries

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Jclt12003 hasn't had any heat soak issues with his car (GM847/stage 2 ported heads, SLP intake), granted he doesn't drive it long distances.

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

with the power you're stock LT1 is making, the little bit of heat that builds on the metal intake would be the least of your worries

Lol. Im hoping to get over 300rwhp with the headers, cai, and tune. If the heat build up isnt a big deal with a bolt on only lt1 then i dont see a reason to not go with SLP for less than 45% of new.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Lol. Im hoping to get over 300rwhp with the headers, cai, and tune. .

Good luck w/ that.

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

Good luck w/ that.


I can dream lol.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

Good luck w/ that.

I don't think 300-305 rwhp is THAT far off for a bolton + tune LTfun 6spd.

Also depends on the dyno is setup. Hell, the vert dyno'd 297rwhp/327 rwtq three pulls in a row 2 years ago as it sits right now on a Mustang dyno. Do I think I really make that? No, but the dyno sheet says it :lol:

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

Well the tune is gonna be however Josh over at JSPerfomance does it. I won't really know the true dyno numbers for a while. Where i hot to get an improvement is at the track. Hopefuly mid 13s or better and a better trap than my previous runs. (14.3 @ 99 was best so far) on 245/55/r16 kuhmo street tires.

[FlyingDutchman]

Think the lingenfelter (same as moroso & K&N) is only $159...remember years ago when the Lt1 was the thing guys use to complain about heatsoak w/ the SLP one.

Got the lingenfelter CAI myself, def a power gain over stock and you can't beat the price.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Yea I owned a few LT1's back in the 90's and the dynos really vary...6spds general start in the 250's and I have seen some as high in the mid 270's stock (usually SS/Firehawk/WS6 cars). Unlike the LS motor the Ram Air models actually seemed to put out more power. 300 is possible I just dont remember seeing it too often..

[sweetbmxrider]

250's with a 6 speed, you have got to be joking. i mean i know you have been there done that but that is just silly.


all bolt on intakes are the same. now if you went with a lid setup, you'd definitely pick up some power especially after the 1/8th

[greenformula92]

i got the K&N....im pretty happy with it

[ib4200]

i got teh K&N

[Slow-V6]

His car is trapping 99 mph in the 1/4 so its probably making between 240-250 at the wheels. Add headers and a CAI with a tune I would say 275-285 rwhp max.

Its better to go into Dynos thinking of a low number and not a high number. This way you wont get disapointed.

[JerzLT1]

i have a k&n in my shed that im not using, $100 and ill drop it off to you

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

i have a k&n in my shed that im not using, $100 and ill drop it off to you


Sold. Just waiting on money from the truck i sold but you got yourself a deal.

[sweetbmxrider]

His car is trapping 99 mph in the 1/4 so its probably making between 240-250 at the wheels. Add headers and a CAI with a tune I would say 275-285 rwhp max.

he said for a 6 speed and i am unsure of the condition of op's vehicle. you also have to account for weather for that day.

[TBSPW]

i have the slp...not black but polished aluminum i think...looks good works good and cant complain

also never had a heat soak problem...and ask nick i drive my car REALLY hard

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

he said for a 6 speed and i am unsure of the condition of op's vehicle. you also have to account for weather for that day.

lol....splitting hairs are we....maybe the op can give you a detailed breakdown of the conditions of that day. In the meantime well all be sitting here in suspense. On a good day your average LT1 is only seeing 101 which would put him around 260ish hp..if thats the case good for him.

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

As far as the condition of my vehicle....

The engine and trans have a little less than 11k on them and 14 months.

[sweetbmxrider]

lol....splitting hairs are we....maybe the op can give you a detailed breakdown of the conditions of that day. In the meantime well all be sitting here in suspense. On a good day your average LT1 is only seeing 101 which would put him around 260ish hp..if thats the case good for him.

just trying to keep it factual :wink:

[JerzLT1]

lol....splitting hairs are we....maybe the op can give you a detailed breakdown of the conditions of that day. In the meantime well all be sitting here in suspense. On a good day your average LT1 is only seeing 101 which would put him around 260ish hp..if thats the case good for him.

i hope you mean 101 bone stock. i trapped 110 with bolt ons

[Slow-V6]

i hope you mean 101 bone stock. i trapped 110 with bolt ons

And how much did your car weigh? My LS1 Trapped 110 with bolt ons and dynoed 340rwhp. It weighs 3540ish without me in it.

[JerzLT1]

the only things out were AC (only the compressor and lines), seats and carpet. maybe 120lbs less than stock? this was in an auto car btw

[Slow-V6]

the only things out were AC (only the compressor and lines), seats and carpet. maybe 120lbs less than stock? this was in an auto car btw

What bolt ons were you running? Most headers, full exhaust, and intake LT1's I have seen trapped in the 102-105 range.

[Slow-V6]

the only things out were AC (only the compressor and lines), seats and carpet. maybe 120lbs less than stock? this was in an auto car btw

Copied this from your Fquik page.

"Ive owned the car since August of 07 and have been to the track with it almost every week since. it started out running a 13.9 @ 100mph full weight with only a cat back exhaust. added a SLP CAI, BMR LCAs, and !Muffler, !Interior, and !AC on Drag radials and Skinnies and it got me to a 13.3 @ 105. LTs and True duals with dumps got me to 12.85 @107 with an exhaust leak and no tune. new times TBA"

You also ran a 13.9@ 100mph with bolt ons!!

[sweetbmxrider]

pwned

[JerzLT1]

ok? not sure where you going with that lol. the car went 12.51 @ 110 with 3.73s, the exhaust leak fixed and a tune. i forgot that i even had an Fquick

[JerzLT1]

What bolt ons were you running? Most headers, full exhaust, and intake LT1's I have seen trapped in the 102-105 range.

CAI, Pacesetter LTs, True duals dumped before the axle, 1.6rrs, skinnies, slicks, 12 bolt with 3.73s, and a tune from Bryan. my g/f still has the car and it will still go 12s with the right tires on it.

edit: oh LCAs and SFCs were on there as well and the sway bar was removed. that wouldnt exactly make me trap higher though.

[JerzLT1]

http://www.njfboa.org/forums/showthread.php?t=33580

thats the post from the night i ran it. im sorry i guess i trapped 111.

[sweetbmxrider]

repwn

[NastyEllEssWon]

CAI, Pacesetter LTs, True duals dumped before the axle, 1.6rrs, skinnies, slicks, 12 bolt with 3.73s, and a tune from Bryan. my g/f still has the car and it will still go 12s with the right tires on it.

edit: oh LCAs and SFCs were on there as well and the sway bar was removed. that wouldnt exactly make me trap higher though.




i wouldnt consider that a ''bolt on'' car. its a bit more than that.

[Anti_Rice_Guy]

i wouldnt consider that a ''bolt on'' car. its a bit more than that.

The only non bolt on part is the RRs, no?

[NastyEllEssWon]

well i consider a bolt on car the usual, headers, cai, exhaust...but when you start going rr's, rears, gears, slicks, skinnies...id say its a bit more than a bolt on car

[JerzLT1]

well i consider a bolt on car the usual, headers, cai, exhaust...but when you start going rr's, rears, gears, slicks, skinnies...id say its a bit more than a bolt on car

rr's still classify it as a bolt on car, and if you think that those things disqualify it from being a bolt on car you're an idiot. Look at the bolt on ls1 list on tech and see what they're running

[sweetbmxrider]

definitely a bolt on car with a few missing....

[Featherburner]

What bolt ons were you running? Most headers, full exhaust, and intake LT1's I have seen trapped in the 102-105 range.

Really? Maybe they need the driver mod. My Bone stock 93 Firehawk went 13.51@105 on a 1.9 60'. Granted, it has a factory CAI but that's about it.

[Slow-V6]

Really? Maybe they need the driver mod. My Bone stock 93 Firehawk went 13.51@105 on a 1.9 60'. Granted, it has a factory CAI but that's about it.

Thats why I said BOLT ON. My Firehawk has a Ram air induction and 3 inch catback system as well as some suspension parts from SLP. I consider my Firehawk a bolt on LT1 car!

[LTb1ow]

Thats why I said BOLT ON. My Firehawk has a Ram air induction and 3 inch catback system as well as some suspension parts from SLP. I consider my Firehawk a bolt on LT1 car!

My LT1 has heads the came bolted on from the factory and a cam that is held in with bolts. It sometimes runs 14s.

[Slow-V6]

well i consider a bolt on car the usual, headers, cai, exhaust...but when you start going rr's, rears, gears, slicks, skinnies...id say its a bit more than a bolt on car

I am with you on this. I consider a bolt on car something that has basic mods done to it.

When someone asks me what will they run in a bolt on LT1 I am not goint to say low 12's@ 111 mph. I will tell them that with Bolt ons they usually run a low 13 @ 105mph. If you do weight reduction, 12 bolt, Skinny fats, and roller rockers on top of your basic bolt ons you can run a low 12 in the 110 mph range.

I met a guy at a meet a couple weeks ago that said he went 13.9@ 103 in a bone stock Nissan maxima. I threw the BS flag and he insisted he did. The only thing that was done to the car was weight reduction. To me thats not bone stock! Bone stock is getting a car from a dealership and taking it to the track and running it. To Him it is bone stock.. Kinda like what people consider bolt on and a little more then bolt on.

My LT1 has heads the came bolted on from the factory and a cam that is held in with bolts. It sometimes runs 14s.

Amazing!!

[smoke_em94]

so since when is a passenger seat the bottom of the back seat and spare tire and jack extensive weight reduction.... what is it maybe 100 lbs.