Another LT1 Header Install....

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

Got a set of used pacesetters and cleaned them up a little. They will be going on the car this Saturday.

Before working on them:
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/Green_Phoenix_LT1/Header%20Restoration/2010-08-16_18-26-56_621.jpg
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/Green_Phoenix_LT1/Header%20Restoration/2010-08-16_18-26-48_840.jpg
Passenger Side Progress
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/Green_Phoenix_LT1/Header%20Restoration/2010-08-17_14-36-04_642.jpg
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/Green_Phoenix_LT1/Header%20Restoration/2010-08-17_16-33-47_655.jpg
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/Green_Phoenix_LT1/Header%20Restoration/2010-08-17_16-35-10_983.jpg
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/Green_Phoenix_LT1/Header%20Restoration/2010-08-17_16-34-39_897.jpg
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/Green_Phoenix_LT1/Header%20Restoration/2010-08-17_16-36-41_953.jpg
Both Sides Finished:
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/Green_Phoenix_LT1/Header%20Restoration/Done2.jpg
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/Green_Phoenix_LT1/Header%20Restoration/Done1.jpg
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/Green_Phoenix_LT1/Header%20Restoration/Done3.jpg

Those AIR tubes will be getting cut off the day of install.

Ill get pics as they go on the car.

[sweetbmxrider]

they cleaned up great!

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

Thanks. Steel wool, two types of wire wheels, a drill, and VHT header paint did a pretty good job.

[BigRocsFirebird]

yeah I like it. looks good although i said that before haha

[1994lt1]

Good luck! I don't envy you at all.

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

Good luck! I don't envy you at all.

Why do you say that? These are getting installed with the help of an experienced friend of mine and his full shop :nod:

[FlyingDutchman]

hmm id like to see how the VHT paint holds up. we did rustoleums header paint on 19iroc88's car, it last idk maybe 5 mins before some spots started to burn off?? lol

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

hmm id like to see how the VHT paint holds up. we did rustoleums header paint on 19iroc88's car, it last idk maybe 5 mins before some spots started to burn off?? lol

Did you cure the paint before you put them on? This stuff can either be cured on or off the vehicle using heat cycles. A friend of mine used the same stuff on his turbo, followed the directions and its lasted 3 years with only a few spots just started to show up.

[FlyingDutchman]

Did you cure the paint before you put them on? This stuff can either be cured on or off the vehicle using heat cycles. A friend of mine used the same stuff on his turbo, followed the directions and its lasted 3 years with only a few spots just started to show up.

Hmm they sat for almost 24 hrs, dry to the touch. Planned on doing the heat cycle but fired it up for like 1min open headers and the paint on the primaries started to come off. theres a good amount of paint still on, just not like is supposed to be...

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

Ill keep an eye on it. The headers still had a good amount if the ceramic coating on them so hopefully that will help.

[MonmouthCtyAntz]

Look great w/ the VHT

[LTb1ow]

Cleaned up nicely Dave!

[deadtrend1]

hmm id like to see how the VHT paint holds up. we did rustoleums header paint on 19iroc88's car, it last idk maybe 5 mins before some spots started to burn off?? lol

my thoughts too. jet-hot sterling 1300 .... one and done.

[r0nin89]

I had really poor experience with VHT paint... I sprayed everything and let it dry to the touch except when you put pressure on it the stuff would still rub off. So I thought eh its cause its not cured. Touched it up once it was installed. Heat cycled it as directed 3 times let it cool and checked to make sure it wouldnt rub off. Well it did...

If you want silver use cast blast if you want black use krylon BBQ paint.

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

Thanks for the heads up I'll keep an eye on it. The whole reason for the clean up and paint was to stop and slow down the rusting. I'm hoping to squeeze at least 18 months out of them. I'll be changing them out for stainless steel once I do heads/cam etc.

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

Install changed to Sunday September 5th. Pics will be taken. Should be some good fun.

[LTb1ow]

Install changed to Sunday September 5th. Pics will be taken. Should be some good fun.

If pain and blood is your idea of fun... :|

[S.J.SLEEPER]

headers?......or anything other nut & bolt on an LT1. uugghhh.... I'd rather sit in a corner & naw on my own arm!!!

LOL

[NastyEllEssWon]

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:OZWeLCcu-T54qM:http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y153/hobocurt/HPIM1117.jpg&t=1



be prepared :lol:

[deadtrend1]

be prepared :lol:

I think doing a power window motor ona thirdgen cuts you up worse.

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

A little blood loss and some pain isn't anything to cry over.

[CJDZ24_Z28]

Good Luck with that. Never did any Header installs on any of the LT1 cars I owned and I wouldn't want to. Did 3 LS1's with no problems. How long on average will this take you?

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

Depends how much stuff breaks during :wink:

[Slow-V6]

Id say 4-6hrs

[deadtrend1]

took me 3 days .. :lol:

[LTb1ow]

Be done in less than 5 hours.

[sweetbmxrider]

Be done in less than 5 hours.

:rofl:

[Slow-V6]

It took me and my old roomate 4hrs to do the headers on my LS1. That was in the driveway with jack stands and no air tools. It seems from everyone that has done headers on a LT1 that its a real PITA. I never did headers on a LT1 but let us know Dave how long it takes. Depending on how big of a PITA it is will pretty much decide me doing headers on my Firehawk.

[sweetbmxrider]

if you have done headers in general before, it makes life easier. its the newbs that don't know what to expect and are tackling it for the first time that make it seem like hell. tis fun!

[MaxTheKiing]

wow those came out good

[Slow-V6]

How did the install go?

[LTb1ow]

Header install, not so bad.

Motor mount install, rough.

I think he is happy with how they came out so thats a plus.

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

I would like to give a huge thanks to the JSFBOA guys for helping me out with this and working well into the night. Heres a couple photos. I kept forgetting to take them as the night went on.
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/Green_Phoenix_LT1/Trans%20Am%20Mods/P9050036.jpg
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/Green_Phoenix_LT1/Trans%20Am%20Mods/P9050037.jpg
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/Green_Phoenix_LT1/Trans%20Am%20Mods/P9050038.jpg
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http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/Green_Phoenix_LT1/Trans%20Am%20Mods/P9060042.jpg
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http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/Green_Phoenix_LT1/Trans%20Am%20Mods/P9060046.jpg
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/Green_Phoenix_LT1/Trans%20Am%20Mods/P9060047.jpg
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/Green_Phoenix_LT1/Trans%20Am%20Mods/P9060048.jpg
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/Green_Phoenix_LT1/Trans%20Am%20Mods/P9060049.jpg
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/Green_Phoenix_LT1/Trans%20Am%20Mods/P9060050.jpg
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/Green_Phoenix_LT1/Trans%20Am%20Mods/P9060051.jpg
http://i1022.photobucket.com/albums/af346/Green_Phoenix_LT1/Trans%20Am%20Mods/P9060053.jpg

[LTb1ow]

That was fun.

[JerzLT1]

looks good man, im sure it feels like a completely different car

[sweetbmxrider]

yay

[BigAls87Z28]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-EmCcYn_7I

Little vid of the first start

[LTb1ow]

Cool pal.

[Slow-V6]

Looks and sounds good. That driverside portion of the y-pipe really hangs low.

[LTb1ow]

It was 3am in the morning and the pal almost took my hand off with a sawzall, it can be adjusted anytime the south folk wanna lend a hand to him.

[Slow-V6]

It was 3am in the morning and the pal almost took my hand off with a sawzall, it can be adjusted anytime the south folk wanna lend a hand to him.

I have a jack and stands but we cant work on cars in my Apartment. I can bring them anywere.

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

Yeah It hangs low but surprisingly I haven't bottomed going in or out of my driveway yet. For the amount of hours that was put into it and the time of night I wasn't worried about it being so low. I was happy it started haha. For those that know my driveway that's pretty impressive. Between the mounts, headers, and CAI there is a HUGE difference in the way the car performs. The Y pipe will get adjusted when I get the cutout put on. Oddly enough my fuel economy has improved.

Yeah Matt almost lost a hand from a sawzall and Adam almost lost his due to a prybar.

Even the motor mounts were a little less than forgiving it was a good time and I learned a lot about my car an LT1s in general. I think one of these days I need to go over every bolt to check for tightness everywhere in the car because 95% of the bolts were loose and came out frighteningly easy lol.

Next step is a Tune and new O2s.

[Slow-V6]

You get better gas miles because there is no restrictions in your intake and exhaust.

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

Yeah I figured that was the case.

[sweetbmxrider]

those bolts were all loose cause they knew kohler was coming and they wanted to live to see another lt1

[JerzLT1]

those bolts were all loose cause they knew kohler was coming and they wanted to live to see another lt1

is that what happened to his back wheel too?




too soon? :lol:

[sweetbmxrider]

:rofl: those suckers planned their jailbreak perfectly! never to be seen again!

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

Found a loose spark plug today lol. My car likes to loosen itself up. All is good though. I have a new dipstick on its way.Now I just need a coolant temp sensor, the one for the gauge... Anyone have one laying around?

[BigAls87Z28]

which one?

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

Farthest one on the driverside. It was the only one. Tightened it up all is good. Tryin to go to atco tonight to see what she does.

[maroman88]

ur car likes to losen up??? my 88 had a trans leak the other day.... EVERY bolt for the trans pan was loose!

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

Ask Adam about every bolt we touched except for the steering knuckle and maybe 2 of the manifold flange bolts were nearly hand loose lol.

[maroman88]

lol well then u lucked out with the stock manifold bolts!

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

Yeah pretty much. They've only been on for about 2 years so i expected them to come out easily just not that easily haha.

[Slow-V6]

What else did they install 2 years ago when you got your new motor? Might want to go over everything they touched.

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

What else did they install 2 years ago when you got your new motor? Might want to go over everything they touched.

Yeah I thought about that. But bascially everything they assembled was touched on sunday lol. I mean the other things that were done were either ripped or would of had major issues already. I am having a lot of fun driving it around though. My in laws are enjoying it a lot less however.

[Slow-V6]

Found this on Tech. Pretty good readup on LT1 headers and gains from them


http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/lt1-lt4-modifications/1329955-proven-hp-lt-headers.html

[mikey mort]

let me know how it goes im lookin to do the same thing to my 96

[Green_Phoenix_LT1]

let me know how it goes im lookin to do the same thing to my 96

It wasn't too bad. The only part that was the most PITA was the motor mounts.

Granted everything was done on a lift and with guys that have done it numerous times.