favorite ticket ever

[thunder]

so i received 2 tickets in the mail recently;careless driving and leaving the scene of an accident. This struck me as odd cause i have not been in accident...ever. so i call the records department to find out what this is all about. Turns out that what happened was around 10pm i was driving my car and i passed one of my neighbors who was walking her dog on the sidewalk.When i drove by the dog got "frightened" and then proceeded to pull the lady to the ground breaking her rib. To make this perfectly clear i DID NOT touch the lady or the dog and since there were parked cars and she was on the sidewalk and i was on the street, i was at least ten feet from her.

Obviously i am not very concerned about loosing this case in court since it is my word against hers unless Fiddo learns English also lets not forget that i did not actually hit her.

Im posting this to warn those who would ever have the misfortune of driving through Metuchen with a modded car. Also i dont wanna study Chinese

[NastyEllEssWon]

get a lawyer

[madness410]

so how did she know it was your car?

ask for discovery from the court

[thunder]

Discovery from the court? and she lives around the corner from me

[thunder]

nevermind i figured it out

[usp55]

thats rediculous

[LTb1ow]

You ran over a lady and her dog?

[maroman88]

stop driving on the dam sidewalk! dam kids

[r0nin89]

Wow thats off the charts ridiculous. Sad part is you'll probably lose.

[stoney2677]

ya gotta tell me who it was...ya just gotta.

[Frosty]

Pedestrians and their dogs aren't speed bumps man. ;)

[Blacdout96]

So, her mishandling of her own dog on an unrelated piece of public land is of your fault? lawyer time, and sue her for vehicular profiling :D j/k

[thunder]

Wow thats off the charts ridiculous. Sad part is you'll probably lose.

i didnt even come near the woman

[thunder]

ya gotta tell me who it was...ya just gotta.

Its some lady down on sylvan. i forget the name

[69BirdX]

Hahaha. Guess I'll have to be more careful.

[xrelapse13]

wooooow

ur car isnt THAT loud.

maybe she should learn to handle her dog?

or just man up its only a rib? lol

[thor117]

or just man up its only a rib? lol


i think we have our winning defense

[r0nin89]

i didnt even come near the woman

O I'm well aware. I'm just trying to stress how re-*****-diculous the municipal court system is.

[BigRocsFirebird]

the **** people come up with..

[qwikz28]

so i received 2 tickets in the mail recently;careless driving and leaving the scene of an accident. This struck me as odd cause i have not been in accident...ever. so i call the records department to find out what this is all about. Turns out that what happened was around 10pm i was driving my car and i passed one of my neighbors who was walking her dog on the sidewalk.When i drove by the dog got "frightened" and then proceeded to pull the lady to the ground breaking her rib. To make this perfectly clear i DID NOT touch the lady or the dog and since there were parked cars and she was on the sidewalk and i was on the street, i was at least ten feet from her.

Obviously i am not very concerned about loosing this case in court since it is my word against hers unless Fiddo learns English also lets not forget that i did not actually hit her.

Im posting this to warn those who would ever have the misfortune of driving through Metuchen with a modded car. Also i dont wanna study Chinese

It seems like it won't be your word against hers, because you guys don't contradict each other. I still wouldn't just go in there unprepared, I would talk to an attorney. I'm no lawyer, but I think leaving hte scene of an accident is a felony.

[thunder]

It seems like it won't be your word against hers, because you guys don't contradict each other. I still wouldn't just go in there unprepared, I would talk to an attorney. I'm no lawyer, but I think leaving hte scene of an accident is a felony.

im pretty sure your right. And it is my word against hers because she cant even prove i was there

[thunder]

i think we have our winning defense

agreed

[91chevywt]

People never take their own damn responsibility for their own problems. Always trying to pass the blame onto someone else. A reasonable judge would laugh this out of the courtroom.

[WildBillyT]

wooooow

ur car isnt THAT loud.

maybe she should learn to handle her dog?

or just man up its only a rib? lol

One rib?

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/KNQRqAoT-2c/0.jpg

[98CamaroSS]

Wow things are getting out of hand with municipalities looking for cash. :knock:

[fmybody]

im interested in how this will turn out.. seems like a no brainer.. but if your luck is anything like mine you are worried haha.

[Tru2Chevy]

ask for discovery from the court

I second this....find out what they know/think ASAP.

- Justin

[WiMiMc]

or just man up its only a rib? lol


exactly, Adam didn't complain when God took one of his

[woodchip525]

hate to tell you this but almost the very same thing happened to my son in his camaro last year. he lost the case and had to pay damages and got wreckless driving on hjs record

[BigAls87Z28]

I...I dont see how she could win this? Amazing...

[Tru2Chevy]

I...I dont see how she could win this? Amazing...

We're talking about the sue-happy, nobody takes any responsibility for their own actions, loving US court system.

You really think she has no chance to win?

- Justin

[BigRocsFirebird]

If your car is pretty loud i'd put an exhuast on it and just be like I don't know what your talking about its quiet.

[fmybody]

wait what is she claiming exactly?

[qwikz28]

wait what is she claiming exactly?

If I understand this right, she is claiming that something he drove carelessly and that resulted (even if tangentially) in her injuries, and he left.

Requesting discovery from the court will only provide you with any real evidence that is planned on being entered in to prove the plaintiff's case. At this point, I doubt it is anything besides the police report at this time.

OP- How did you find out about the suit and in what court are you being sued in? Also, if you were served with a summons and complaint, you need to answer in the complaint and you only have a limited amount of time to do that. Be sure to post up here before you answer.

[NastyEllEssWon]

exactly, Adam didn't complain when God took one of his





and santa claus was mad at the tooth fairy because she wouldnt put out on the first date....whats fictional stories have to do with this thread?


leave your religion at the door sheep

[thunder]

hate to tell you this but almost the very same thing happened to my son in his camaro last year. he lost the case and had to pay damages and got wreckless driving on hjs record

ya this is why im worried

[sweetbmxrider]

and santa claus was mad at the tooth fairy because she wouldnt put out on the first date....whats fictional stories have to do with this thread?


leave your religion at the door sheep

you should be thankful that GOD lets you troll these threads and speak your blasphemy! :-P

[NastyEllEssWon]

you should be thankful that justin lets you troll these threads and speak your blasphemy! :-P




shyeaaaaah :lol:

[12secondv6]

Be careful.... cause ... in this world....the dog may also sue you.... and win

Sorry man

[NJ Torque]

Theyre trying to either force you out of the neighborhood or force you to get rid of your car.

[jts98z28]

i would get a lawyer just in case, good luck with this situation

[WildBillyT]

ya this is why im worried

Do not dick around. Take it seriously- there is personal injury of an elderly person involved. Get a lawyer.

[r0nin89]

i would get a lawyer just in case, good luck with this situation

I would get a lawyer and have the lawyer contact her explaining how you plan on not only defending yourself but also counter-suing for court fees, legal expenses, and wages lost during time in court.

I bet she'll **** her pants and drop it. In this day and age when the old (sorry to anyone not "young" but its true) try to take advantage of the young the only way to win is to prove your no dumbass and you can defend yourself and spin the whole thing around when the ball is in your court.

[Blacdout96]

I would get a lawyer and have the lawyer contact her explaining how you plan on not only defending yourself but also counter-suing for court fees, legal expenses, and wages lost during time in court.

I bet she'll **** her pants and drop it. In this day and age when the old (sorry to anyone not "young" but its true) try to take advantage of the young the only way to win is to prove your no dumbass and you can defend yourself and spin the whole thing around when the ball is in your court.

this. yeah I wouldnt try to go for gobs of money, just expenses to cover, she may realize it may cost her twice as much if she loses and may drop it, I certainly would if I was in the position, but then again Im not a douchy sue happy person, nor I hope I never have to......except for my current customer who wont pay for an engine I just rebuilt.

[Frosty]

Do not dick around. Take it seriously- there is personal injury of an elderly person involved. Get a lawyer.

Abso-freakin-lutely

[r0nin89]

this. yeah I wouldnt try to go for gobs of money, just expenses to cover, she may realize it may cost her twice as much if she loses and may drop it, I certainly would if I was in the position, but then again Im not a douchy sue happy person, nor I hope I never have to......except for my current customer who wont pay for an engine I just rebuilt.

Lol that doesnt make you sue happy bro it just makes you a person that uses the legal system for what it was actually intended for...

As for the topic. See I would say go try to explain to her how ridiculous the whole thing is and that you completely plan on defending yourself and counter suing just to see if you can nip the thing in the bud but I think thats bad legal advise.

Btw perhaps you should go speak with the officer who filed the report and issued you the tickets? See what he has to say. I would put on the good memory hat and remember everything he says. If he even hints at the fact that its ridiculous or that he only filed the report because she insisted its just more **** to fling in court.

[maroman88]

did i miss the part where the OP was getting sued? anyone can walk into a police dept with a license plate number and issue a civilian complaint, and it seems this lady has charged u with carless and leaving the scene

[r0nin89]

did i miss the part where the OP was getting sued? anyone can walk into a police dept with a license plate number and issue a civilian complaint, and it seems this lady has charged u with carless and leaving the scene

Yeah your absolutely right. And no it doesnt say anywhere hes being sued so I guess the term "counter sue" is incorrect in what we were saying.

I got ****ed like that in high school. Someone decided to file a complaint for reckless driving for doing a burnout. Little did I know that it wasnt actually issued by the cop that gave it to me in school. Wish I had known that cause I would have pled not guilty instead of having it reduced.

I bet if you go and plead not guilty she wont even be there to protest.

[thunder]

Yeah your absolutely right. And no it doesnt say anywhere hes being sued so I guess the term "counter sue" is incorrect in what we were saying.

I got ****ed like that in high school. Someone decided to file a complaint for reckless driving for doing a burnout. Little did I know that it wasnt actually issued by the cop that gave it to me in school. Wish I had known that cause I would have pled not guilty instead of having it reduced.

I bet if you go and plead not guilty she wont even be there to protest.

I already pled not guilty. my trial is wed

[r0nin89]

I already pled not guilty. my trial is wed

Cheers to hoping she doesnt even show. Did you talk to a cop/lawyer or anything?

[madness410]

im interested in how this will turn out.. seems like a no brainer.. but if your luck is anything like mine you are worried haha.

well remember man theres 3 sides to every story...one side, the other side, the truth. their stories contradict so someone is giving wrong recollections or faulty information.

hate to tell you this but almost the very same thing happened to my son in his camaro last year. he lost the case and had to pay damages and got wreckless driving on hjs record

this was a different story though no two cases are alike...different people different municipalities all that. did you get him a lawyer?

Theyre trying to either force you out of the neighborhood or force you to get rid of your car.

yeah if you think outside of the box it could be that the town has been getting a lot of complaints and this could be a perfect opportunity to shut them up by forcing you out of their neighborhood / getting rid of your car.

[madness410]

also man, there are other options as far as lawyers that wont require you to spend as much money. but just remember you get what you pay for...

public defenders do their work for free but their caseloads are ridiculous they will just try to plea bargain for you and most likely not try to win the case.

[thunder]

also man, there are other options as far as lawyers that wont require you to spend as much money. but just remember you get what you pay for...

public defenders do their work for free but their caseloads are ridiculous they will just try to plea bargain for you and most likely not try to win the case.

ya i might just get a proper lawyer. cause even a thousand bucks isnt bad all things considered

[r0nin89]

Dude if I was in your shoes I'd be consulting a lawyers whos slow w/ business and would be willing to work out a bargain for him to be paid after you counter sued for legal fees and lost wages for days in court.

[DaSkinnyGuy]

This person is to old to be walking a dog. If you can't handle a dog then how do you even handle your own self.

[79T/A]

public defenders do their work for free but their caseloads are ridiculous they will just try to plea bargain for you and most likely not try to win the case.

Public defenders aren't always free. If you use one, they will make you fill out a form for eligibility and then it will cost you a few hundred bucks.

Get a lawyer. A GOOD one. This reeks of "How much money can I get out of this guy because I slipped and fell?" As soon as the traffic court case is done, this woman will most certainly file a civil suit. No matter how ridiculous this may seem, remember that an idiot who spilled coffee on herself got millions.

[NJ Torque]

How did Court go....

[fmybody]

yeah what happend?

[thunder]

got out of court. Not in jail. life is good

[r0nin89]

got out of court. Not in jail. life is good


Vague. So I take if you simply "got out of court" she wasnt even there to defend?

[fmybody]

got out of court. Not in jail. life is good

haha i was just coming back to say "well i guess hes in jail" :lol:

cheers to your freedom mate!

[NastyEllEssWon]

without divulging too much info because he's being vague and im taking it he has a reason for being so....the rediculousness of the claim was tossed aside. congrats marek...not being in jail is a good thing :nod:



stay out of trouble from now on kid...get some cats and keep the cutout closed from now on. :lol:

[Raist103]

Crazy

[ryanfx]

got out of court. Not in jail. life is good

Don't be a shady n00b. If you don't want to say what happened, just say so!

[Blacdout96]

Maybe they made a settlement, hope not, hhope that crap was thrown out as soon as they took a seat.

[thunder]

i was exhausted after court so i didnt feel like posting the whole thing. leaving the scene got dropped but i pled guilty to careless under the condition that i cant be taked to civil court.

[BonzoHansen]

you plead guilty to a 2 point ticket? so there were other witnesses I presume?

[fmybody]

you plead guilty to a 2 point ticket? so there were other witnesses I presume?

yeah the dog remember:lol:

[Frosty]

i was exhausted after court so i didnt feel like posting the whole thing. leaving the scene got dropped but i pled guilty to careless under the condition that i cant be taked to civil court.

Did you consult a lawyer at all?

[thunder]

Did you consult a lawyer at all?

I did what the lawyer told me to do

[Frosty]

It sucks you had to plead guilty to something that sounds like BS but at the end of the day if it protects you from a civil suit then it's all good.

[thunder]

It sucks you had to plead guilty to something that sounds like BS but at the end of the day if it protects you from a civil suit then it's all good.

ya thats what i figured

[maroman88]

can u get points from a ticket that was issued as a civilian complaint?

[Featherburner]

How do you get a careless driving ticket from just driving by? I'm guessing more went on than we were led to believe.

[BonzoHansen]

yeah, i don't get why you couldn't at least plead to that no point ticket you get when you get a speeding ticket knocked down (I forget what it is right now)

[fmybody]

yeah, i don;t get why you couldn't at least plead to that no point ticket you get when you get a speeding ticket knocked down (I forget what it is right now)

r u talking about unsafe driving? i think thats the no point one..

[deadtrend1]

r u talking about unsafe driving? i think thats the no point one..

mine was pleaded down to a "failure to obey a stop sign"

[fmybody]

mine was pleaded down to a "failure to obey a stop sign"

i guess theres a few depending on what you acttually did.. my gf's sister was speeding and got in danger of accident or something like that.. no point as well..

[maroman88]

the usual one is unsafe operation, and i stand corrected, points do apply even if its a civilian complaint

[thunder]

guys basically what happened is i got shafted i wasnt even at the scene when this happened. she is making the whole thing up... the **** fell down and got hurt somewhere and then got the idea a few days later to blame me so i would end up paying her medical bills but i plead guilty to deny her the ability to take me to civil

[xrelapse13]

what a C*nt

[redsoxsstink]

wtf :evil:, so how much are you in the hole for

[V]

post up her info online, like facebook, so she maybe wont be able to pull this again.

i enjoy revenge

[fmybody]

yeah thats the kinda thing that would happen to me... thats my luck..

[r0nin89]

guys basically what happened is i got shafted i wasnt even at the scene when this happened. she is making the whole thing up... the **** fell down and got hurt somewhere and then got the idea a few days later to blame me so i would end up paying her medical bills but i plead guilty to deny her the ability to take me to civil


Well I'm glad for you that ya got the easy way out to not getting your ass sued.



As much as I hate to say it its young people (such as yourself) that settle for the plea bargains and enable the legal system (especially municipal) to walk all over us like we're "stupid kids".

If I was you I would have been contested all charges in court, then when she filed a civil I would have counter sued for defamation of character, lost wages, legal fees etc. I understand that not everyone wants to take the low road to be "right" in the end but **** is just out of control with what people get away with.

Heres the couple things I'd really like to know:

Was she even there in court?

Did she speak her side of the story or was it a total plea bargain with zero "trial"

Did the judge/prosecutor find the whole thing rediculous when you explained youself?

O and do you have it in writing that no further civil suit is to be filed?

[WildBillyT]

How do you get a careless driving ticket from just driving by? I'm guessing more went on than we were led to believe.

I agree.

[thunder]

post up her info online, like facebook, so she maybe wont be able to pull this again.

i enjoy revenge

haha ive heard of yours skills. im surprised u dont already have the police report pulled up on ur comp

[CHRIS67]

Man that sucks. I can't see how she could prove that it was your car and not a cat that caused her to be pulled down. It isn't like they can cross examine the dog to find out why he was scared. Or her walking on a sidewalk at night and tripping over a crack and blamed it on someone else. All I’m saying is that I would have fought that one if it even made it to court.

[Blacdout96]

Yea, I think I would of contested everythign and counter sued, in this day and age, judges are becoming more keen with stupid frivilous suits, and I'm sure that would of gotten thrown out of court. Did you use a public defender or an actual lawyer, cause I think he **** shafted you on that.

[91chevywt]

It's really not that bad of a deal in the end. I'd rather pay the state for a traffic violation than pay for her stupid medical bills. But it is a shame the police even took this seriously.

[NastyEllEssWon]

sometimes you gotta cut your losses and take one for the team. a traffic ticket and no chance of her suing you is way better than taking a chance in court and not only losing both charges, ending up in jail and having her sue you afterwards.


either way its a weight lifted off his shoulders and i understand why he took the deal. i wouldve as well, but pled no contest :D

[WildBillyT]

Yea, I think I would of contested everythign and counter sued, in this day and age, judges are becoming more keen with stupid frivilous suits, and I'm sure that would of gotten thrown out of court. Did you use a public defender or an actual lawyer, cause I think he **** shafted you on that.

See, I probably wouldn't have.

A 2 pt careless ticket + insurance surcharges is probably still less than having to hire a lawyer in a civil suit for 4 hours, let alone an entire trial.

[GrandmasterCow]

How do you get a careless driving ticket from just driving by? I'm guessing more went on than we were led to believe.

i agree too. i asked my mother whos a judge and she said something definately sounds out of place, especially since they can't prove that you were at the scene, hence no witnesses, you shouldn't have received anything and the case been dropped. theres no witnesses, no evidence that you caused her accident, the waiting period seems like she might've consulted with family member or friend that convinced her to try to get money, and it definately seems that someone shafted you because now you're going to have points, surcharges, and these things no one wants.

[BigRocsFirebird]

what an old hag. rev outfront early every morning

[IROCZman15]

how did u find out that she fell a few days earlier anyway? i'd sue her and make her pay for the ticket. also, if you have a credible witness or evidence that she did fall earlier, you can get the police to arrest her for "filing a false police report" and so forth.

[91chevywt]

I agree. Is there anyway to take her to court on a totally separate suit?

[sweetbmxrider]

go fall in front of her house when her dog barks, win.

[FlyingDutchman]

go fall in front of her house when her dog barks, win.

yeah make the dog bite you. rip spanky

[Frosty]

how did u find out that she fell a few days earlier anyway? i'd sue her and make her pay for the ticket. also, if you have a credible witness or evidence that she did fall earlier, you can get the police to arrest her for "filing a false police report" and so forth.

Are you a lawyer or did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night? Either way it's horrible advice, no offense.

His situation is done, he pleaded guilty after consulting a lawyer. For him to take any revenge(which he has no legal way to do so) is counter productive. What's done is done, he needs to just move on.

[maroman88]

Are you a lawyer or did you stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night? Either way it's horrible advice, no offense.

His situation is done, he pleaded guilty after consulting a lawyer. For him to take any revenge(which he has no legal way to do so) is counter productive. What's done is done, he needs to just move on.

IIRC hes da five ohh

[Frosty]

I know he is but how could the OP go and try to have her arrested for filing a false police report when he admitted to driving carelessly? ;)

[r0nin89]

I know he is but how could the OP go and try to have her arrested for filing a false police report when he admitted to driving carelessly? ;)

He couldnt. Moral of the story is we didnt get the full story otherwise the OP woulda gotten off scott-free.

[thunder]

He couldnt. Moral of the story is we didnt get the full story otherwise the OP woulda gotten off scott-free.

The hell are u talking about not getting the full story? i decided to take the path that was less bad for me. If i got found not guilty she could have still taken me to civil court so i took the option that keeps me from spending months dealing with court. id rather get a ticket than miss more class

[WildBillyT]

The hell are u talking about not getting the full story? i decided to take the path that was less bad for me. If i got found not guilty she could have still taken me to civil court so i took the option that keeps me from spending months dealing with court. id rather get a ticket than miss more class

I believe he means full story surrounding the actual incident.

[fmybody]

The hell are u talking about not getting the full story? i decided to take the path that was less bad for me. If i got found not guilty she could have still taken me to civil court so i took the option that keeps me from spending months dealing with court. id rather get a ticket than miss more class

and i belive he means... that he did give the "full story" and regardless he just doesnt want to "waste" his time dealing with this bs in cort through a civil suit... he'd rather take the ticket and squash it there..

i feel you to a certain extent... i wouldnt have time for that **** between school and work.. no way in hell i dont even have time for sleep.

[Frosty]

I'm just curious, who came up with the idea for the civil suit protection if you admitted to careless driving? Your lawyer or hers, or even the prosecutor? It just seems odd that she would forgo any type of civil suit if she was really injured. Knowing you got 2pts out of it wouldn't heal my supposed injuries nor would it reimburse my out of pocket expenses.

[r0nin89]

I'm just curious, who came up with the idea for the civil suit protection if you admitted to careless driving? Your lawyer or hers, or even the prosecutor? It just seems odd that she would forgo any type of civil suit if she was really injured. Knowing you got 2pts out of it wouldn't heal my supposed injuries nor would it reimburse my out of pocket expenses.

Yeah not to mention I'm still awaiting the answers to the 3 or 4 questions I had after the "verdict" came in. Most importantly whether you actually got that "no civil suit promise" in writing...

Like I said from the beginning once your tickets were dismissed (which they would have been) no lawyer short of some sleezeball dumb ass (The guy from the simpsons comes to mind) would take that case because it had already been settled in municipal court that you werent at fault for what she blamed you for. A civil suit would have been redundant.

And further like I had said she woulda **** her pants and realized you werent some dumb idiot once she received the paperwork you would be counter suing. Hell I'm sure the legal letter announcing the intent to counter sue for court and lawyer costs, defamation of character, and lost wages for time in court wouldnt have even cost you $50 from a decent lawyer if you explained your story.

But ya know its your driving record, your prerogative, and your choice. The only reason it peeves me is because its just another legal precedent set that makes the "old and innocent" feel like theyre entitled to take unjust action against the "young and reckless".

But I'll drop it now.

[BonzoHansen]

he is not on trial here and this has no where to go but down, so /thread