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Anti_Rice_Guy
10-10-2010, 09:35 PM
Not technical so it belongs here.

Since I have been granted permission to race at the Nats this year, plus I'm sick of fearing for my life on the current tires on the Camaro, I looked into the matter. The tires on the Camaro are notoriously horrible with traction, as anyone who has driven with me or near me knows. I can spin at 60mph - I kept thinking the trans was slipping or something. Well, in addition to being Continental ContiContact EcoPlus Touring tires, they were made in the 24th week of 2000 according to the code. I found the stock wheels in the basement, and they have Goodyear Eagle GS-C's with better tread than the tires on the car now. (Dad had told me they were bald, that's why he replaced them with the Conti's and threw the Goodyears on the stockers). The Goodyears were made the 33rd week of 2000. So much for the idea of switching those ones for racing....

Long and short of it - Maybe dad believes me now that the Camaro should really get some new tires, considering either way they're about 4 years overdue for a change (Neither are cracking or anything though).

NJ346
10-10-2010, 10:18 PM
Great story nick. I think they should take away your "member of the year title" for such a useless post.

:wink:

ib4200
10-10-2010, 10:37 PM
i say he does worse than last year

WildBillyT
10-10-2010, 11:27 PM
Not technical so it belongs here.

Since I have been granted permission to race at the Nats this year, plus I'm sick of fearing for my life on the current tires on the Camaro, I looked into the matter. The tires on the Camaro are notoriously horrible with traction, as anyone who has driven with me or near me knows. I can spin at 60mph - I kept thinking the trans was slipping or something. Well, in addition to being Continental ContiContact EcoPlus Touring tires, they were made in the 24th week of 2000 according to the code. I found the stock wheels in the basement, and they have Goodyear Eagle GS-C's with better tread than the tires on the car now. (Dad had told me they were bald, that's why he replaced them with the Conti's and threw the Goodyears on the stockers). The Goodyears were made the 33rd week of 2000. So much for the idea of switching those ones for racing....

Long and short of it - Maybe dad believes me now that the Camaro should really get some new tires, considering either way they're about 4 years overdue for a change (Neither are cracking or anything though).

Good. He's right. Give them a viking burial and then replace them.

Anti_Rice_Guy
10-10-2010, 11:32 PM
Good. He's right. Give them a viking burial and then replace them.

He's right? He's the one who doesn't want to replace 10 year old tires :-?

BigAls87Z28
10-10-2010, 11:34 PM
GSC's should have been retired 2 years after they were produced.
Time to tell dad that tires gotta go.

NJ Torque
10-10-2010, 11:49 PM
The GSC's will not hook....even if new.

Iroc-z86
10-11-2010, 07:00 AM
Great story nick. I think they should take away your "member of the year title" for such a useless post.

:wink:

i agree... esp since he let the mustang club take over the final wendy's show and i was 1 of 2 thirdgens in attendance.

Frosty
10-11-2010, 07:02 AM
GSC's should have been retired 2 years after they were produced.
Time to tell dad that tires gotta go.

This x 1000000000

JerzLT1
10-11-2010, 08:48 AM
burnout pictures better be coming soon

WildBillyT
10-11-2010, 08:58 AM
He's right? He's the one who doesn't want to replace 10 year old tires :-?

My bad. I read "My dad believes I should get new tires." DERP DERP.

My point still stands. Viking burial, new tires.

BigRocsFirebird
10-11-2010, 10:30 AM
burnout pictures better be coming soon

:rofl: from nick.. yeah right! hes a girl. haha jk nick. btw whenever matt comes back again you 2 punks should come down this way.

1994lt1
10-11-2010, 11:13 AM
Just get something that is a little more suited for the car. I cannot believe they even make those tires in that size origianlly. Its time for something that can actually hold up. That video you sent me of those tires in the rain was breath taking to say the least.

Tru2Chevy
10-11-2010, 11:14 AM
GSC's should have been retired 2 years after they were produced.
Time to tell dad that tires gotta go.

The GSC's will not hook....even if new.

This x 1000000000

See, I told you they were garbage.

- Justin

sweetbmxrider
10-11-2010, 05:24 PM
fuggin pals just giving stuff away! get some bigs n littles!

sweetbmxrider
10-11-2010, 07:10 PM
hahaha nah i don't care. if it helps him potentially beat you, i'm all for it 8-)

so stalker, ever think of doing a big shot of nawzzzzzzzzz?????? :)

DaSkinnyGuy
10-11-2010, 07:40 PM
Nick you know the tires I have now hook, you've experience what my previous tires were like. For the price you can't beat the deal, and im an M6 with 4:10's.

Anti_Rice_Guy
10-11-2010, 08:51 PM
It's rough enough just to convince dad to not get tires similar to the ones on there now, I'm hoping to get some nice burnouts in though. I mean I have 8 tires that are 10 years old!

And bottles are for babies! I'm not a fan of drag racing often, I'm partial to a fun street car that handles.

Squirrel
10-12-2010, 07:20 AM
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Ecsta+ASX

CHRIS67
10-12-2010, 07:26 AM
tires + bleach = awesome pics. :twisted:

Whiplash Performance
10-12-2010, 11:19 AM
http://www.njfboa.org/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=4656&stc=1&d=1286900367
10 year old tire traction problem solved!

Xring427
10-19-2010, 11:45 PM
It's rough enough just to convince dad to not get tires similar to the ones on there now, I'm hoping to get some nice burnouts in though. I mean I have 8 tires that are 10 years old!

And bottles are for babies! I'm not a fan of drag racing often, I'm partial to a fun street car that handles.

dude its gunna be hard enough not to get your dad to buy anything but those crappy cooper tires. viking burial for the continentals!!! :mrgreen:

BurninrubberGT
10-20-2010, 08:25 AM
stop complaining, my dad's trans am tires are from the 90's :rofl:

BonzoHansen
10-20-2010, 09:06 AM
stop complaining, my dad's trans am tires are from the 90's :rofl:

Wanna see old tires? Walk through a good sized cruise night. I see 2 generation old Radial TAs on cars. So mid 80s. Just this year I've seen guys on earlier versions from the late 70s. And last time I went out I saw a car on Belted TAs. Holy crap early 70s. These silly guys and their 50-miles-a-year-to-the-local-cruise-night cars. C3 vette guys seem to be the worst offenders.

RU_Weskot
10-20-2010, 11:44 AM
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Ecsta+ASX

Kumho Tires are notorious for having crummy treadwear. My mom's 04 TSX had brand new Kumho's @ 40,000 miles. Once we got to 65,000 in a year, we had to replace them since there was practically no tread left on all 4 tires.

My sister got Michelin's on her '02 RSX about... 3 years ago. And she drives to manhattan ~2x a week for an internship, and drives to and from nordstroms 5-6x a week for her job. With the amount of tread left on hers, it looks as though she hasn't driven it about at all! :clap:

SO, for 200-400$ more per tire, I'd personally say Michelin / BF Goodrich are the best bang for the buck. It'll sting now, but be the best investment after the 4-6 years of having em with no problems =]

Anti_Rice_Guy
10-20-2010, 11:54 AM
tires + bleach = awesome pics. :twisted:

Or burnout shots at Island on Saturday :wink:

dude its gunna be hard enough not to get your dad to buy anything but those crappy cooper tires. viking burial for the continentals!!! :mrgreen:

I know, I'm glad someone else witnessed that conversation. These tires aren't even really affected by burnouts lol

R.J.Roof
10-20-2010, 12:01 PM
Replace tires now or just wait till spring?

BonzoHansen
10-20-2010, 12:03 PM
Kumho Tires are notorious for having crummy treadwear. My mom's 04 TSX had brand new Kumho's @ 40,000 miles. Once we got to 65,000 in a year, we had to replace them since there was practically no tread left on all 4 tires.

My sister got Michelin's on her '02 RSX about... 3 years ago. And she drives to manhattan ~2x a week for an internship, and drives to and from nordstroms 5-6x a week for her job. With the amount of tread left on hers, it looks as though she hasn't driven it about at all! :clap:

SO, for 200-400$ more per tire, I'd personally say Michelin / BF Goodrich are the best bang for the buck. It'll sting now, but be the best investment after the 4-6 years of having em with no problems =]

Michelins are generally good tires, so this is a generic comment, not a brand specific one. From my experience high tread wear does not always mean good tire. There are tires out there that wear like rocks but ride like crap and stink in the wet. Additionally, the way the rubber compounds age impacts those qualities over a long period of time, so there is the aspect of performance consistency. That gradual change can be hard to detect until eventually you finally realize there is an issue. I can’t tell you how many tires with 40,000 or 50,000 or even more miles that had tons of meat on them but had become too uncomfortable or scary to drive in the wet.

Michelins are generally very consistent over the life of the tire. But every brand has good & bad models. Given their price point I’m not sure I’d use the term bang for the buck, but I think you get good quality per dollar. BFGs and others are more bang for the buck. The more I talk to Cooper tire owners the more I think Cooper falls in B4B category too.

So anyway, mileage alone is a poor selection point. It is just one of many. Thank you, carry on.

BonzoHansen
10-20-2010, 12:31 PM
Replace tires now or just wait till spring?

Take the car away from him on Sunday until spring! Problem solved. :)

R.J.Roof
10-20-2010, 12:43 PM
You assume I decide when to store car - He decides when it gets stored for winter.
If I'm lucky, he lets me drive car once or twice over summer!

BonzoHansen
10-20-2010, 01:42 PM
You need a bigger stick to whack him with.

RU_Weskot
10-20-2010, 01:50 PM
Yeah, I hear you bonzo, :/ if I had a better memory I'd know my mom's specific tire. All I can recall is that they're Touring T/A or something like that. >.<

Tru2Chevy
10-20-2010, 06:48 PM
The more I talk to Cooper tire owners the more I think Cooper falls in B4B category too.

While I'm no tire expert, my family has run Coopers (or one of their other brands, like Mastercraft) almost exclusively for the last 7+ years, and haven't had any issues with them. This is on a '91 Lumina, '79 Malibu, '84 Silverado, '96 Cherokee, '04 Grand Cherokee, and multiple Chrysler minivans, so it encompasses a wide range of styles and sizes.

- Justin