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NastyEllEssWon
01-08-2011, 07:22 PM
So what did everyone think of that Seattle/Saints game. It looked like they were about to let the game slip away until we saw shades of Lynch's college days...beast mode engage indeed.


As for the rest of the games...what do you guys think??


go green!

Frosty
01-08-2011, 07:36 PM
I thought the 'Hawks were done when they looked bad in the 2nd half. It sucks, I'm gonna miss the "Who Dat" chant from the scumbags in N.O. :rolleyes: So glad they lost.

Now GO COLTS for a few hours.

LS1Hawk
01-08-2011, 07:46 PM
That game just proves how full of it these "analysts" are. There is no way you can predict a game. Yet they made statements this week like, "A scenario doesn't exist where the Seahawks will beat the Saints." Anytime I hear stuff like that I put my money on the other team.

NJ346
01-08-2011, 08:56 PM
That Seahawks/Saints game proved how the NFL playoff system still works well. Even if the Saints are the better team(which I believe they were), it is true that anything can happen in the playoffs.

Frosty
01-08-2011, 10:04 PM
Good finish to the Colts/Jets game even if the wrong team won lol. That kick return was key, even though it'll probably get overlooked.

Tru2Chevy
01-08-2011, 10:04 PM
Wow....Jets pulled it out at the end.

- Justin

NastyEllEssWon
01-08-2011, 10:14 PM
nice im glad to see the jets pull it out and send that big baby manning home. maybe he'll whine to the colts to get him more talent and still fall short. as for rex ryan, i dont know if its cause his dad or if its cause i like his antics/attitude but i like to see him win. he's a great coach.



tomorrow predictions.....birds and chiefs move on :nod:

JL8Jeff
01-08-2011, 11:02 PM
Seahawks were a total surprise even though I thought the NO defense was questionable this year. I want to say the Jets got lucky again, but neither team really deserved to win that game. I'm a little surprised they didn't review that last catch to make sure he didn't bobble the ball when he landed out of bounds, but I'm also wondering why the clock kept running when he clearly went OB. The refs messed up with that play but I don't think it really mattered in the outcome of the game. Those were 2 really good games to watch so hopefully tomorrow will be the same.

Frosty
01-09-2011, 06:21 AM
as for rex ryan, if its cause i like his antics/attitude but i like to see him win. he's a great coach.

tomorrow predictions.....birds and chiefs move on :nod:

...and that's why I don't like him. He's an arrogant ****. They were lucky to get to the AFC Championship game last and suddenly he thinks he's Bill Belicheat or Bill Walsh. I cannot wait until the Pat systematically pick him and his team apart like they did a few weeks ago.

For what it's worth Buddy Ryan was a terrible head coach too....he wasted some great years for the Eagles, a great D but had zero zero zero offensive knowledge.

Chiefs win, I'm still on the fence about the Eagles, I don't have a good feeling about the game.

LS1Hawk
01-09-2011, 06:53 AM
...and that's why I don't like him. He's an arrogant ****. They were lucky to get to the AFC Championship game last and suddenly he thinks he's Bill Belicheat or Bill Walsh.

That's exactly why I can't stand him either. There's such a misconception of how great he is. How many times I've heard Jets fan say, "When he was the Defensive Coordinator with Baltimore they one a Super Bowl." He was a line coach that year. He didn't become the coordinator until 2005. For a team that hasn't won anything of significance since 1969, we had hear so much about this team just because they have a head coach that likes to flap his gums.

baddest434
01-09-2011, 11:59 AM
well last years 2 teams in the superbowl are the first 2 teams out of the playoffs this year. werd

RiggsLW81
01-09-2011, 12:18 PM
heres to hoping for jets/bears super bowl...you see where my allegiance lies (see avatar)...but SO GLAD the 'AINTS are gone. both games were great to watch, Lynch's run was epic, and they looked like a new team. Jets/colts had me on the fence, but I was pulling for the Jets (my #2 team)...thought Folk pulled the kick for a split second there before it went thru...

go chiefs and fudgepackers today...down with the toilet collectively known as the eagles!!!

7998
01-09-2011, 12:21 PM
I was kinda happy about the Seahawks, it was a good game.
I hoping for a Chiefs and Packers victory today.

Frosty
01-09-2011, 12:29 PM
and Packers victory today.

Leave this area...NOW :rofl:

7998
01-09-2011, 12:41 PM
Leave this area...NOW :rofl:

:nod: I'm Giants fan so I'm still bitter.:mrgreen:

Frosty
01-09-2011, 01:15 PM
:lol:

NastyEllEssWon
01-09-2011, 01:29 PM
id be bitter too. :lol:

Tru2Chevy
01-09-2011, 06:43 PM
And the Eagles lose....

- Justin

NastyEllEssWon
01-09-2011, 06:43 PM
the one pass he UNDER throws. :evil:

WildBillyT
01-09-2011, 06:44 PM
Great pass out of Vick.

LTb1ow
01-09-2011, 06:44 PM
Hahahahahahahahahh eagles lost.


AHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHA

7998
01-09-2011, 06:44 PM
Great game,:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

NjbadSS
01-09-2011, 06:47 PM
EAGLES..umm...choke choke choke. well at least its nothing new for you e girls fans.

Frosty
01-09-2011, 07:09 PM
EAGLES..umm...choke choke choke. well at least its nothing new for you e girls fans.

How did they choke? Almost every single analyst picked them to lose...they were behind the entire game. Please understand what it means before spouting the "omg they choked" rhetoric.

Anyway, good game....kudos to the Packers, great defense. Akers....I have nothing to say about that....even hitting one of them changes the game. Ah well, not a bad season for what was supposed to be a rebuilding season. Sucks but it's the way it goes.

At least the Giants and Cowboys along with their clueless fans watched their 8AM tee-time.

WildBillyT
01-09-2011, 07:19 PM
How did they choke? Almost every single analyst picked them to lose...they were behind the entire game. Please understand what it means before spouting the "omg they choked" rhetoric.

Anyway, good game....kudos to the Packers, great defense. Akers....I have nothing to say about that....even hitting one of them changes the game. Ah well, not a bad season for what was supposed to be a rebuilding season. Sucks but it's the way it goes.

At least the Giants and Cowboys along with their clueless fans watched their 8AM tee-time.

I agree. As much as I hate the Eagles, there was really no defining choke point. They played OK, but OK wasn't enough. Akers did not play well.

JL8Jeff
01-09-2011, 07:24 PM
At least the Giants and Cowboys along with their clueless fans watched their 8AM tee-time.

Typical bitter Eagles fan! :lol: I still can't believe Akers missed those kicks.

Frosty
01-09-2011, 07:24 PM
Exactly, the played "OK", "OK" isn't enough in the playoffs and against the Packers. Hats off to the Packers, their D played great. They had a pretty good game plan Vick(mimicking what the Giants and Vikings did) and it worked. Could they have won the game? Yes. But they didn't...the Packers were a better team and the better team won. That pretty much sums it up.

LETS GO FLYERS :rofl:

Frosty
01-09-2011, 07:26 PM
Typical bitter Eagles fan! :lol: I still can't believe Akers missed those kicks.

:rofl: Just stirring the pot a little. :D You guys should know by now that I'm not serious...well not completely serious. :mrgreen:

Akers hitting even one of them changes the game but he didn't.

I don't like Vick much as a person but I just watched his post-game interview, it was pretty impressive...maybe he has changed.

NjbadSS
01-09-2011, 07:30 PM
the eagles didnt choke, you are right. They dominated the game and the pack got lucky.

Frosty
01-09-2011, 07:35 PM
You obviously don't know what the word choke means. They weren't supposed to win the game, they didn't lead at any point in the game...so how did they choke?

The Giants choked a few weeks back, the Saint choked yesterday.... so explain to me how a team a team that was supposed to lose choked?

If you're going to rip on the Eagles then make it relevant. Make fun of them on how they don't have a Super Bowl, laugh at them for another early exit but to say they choked...yeah.....no.

So now if Green Bay loses next week does that mean they choked? Did the Chiefs choke today?

BonzoHansen
01-09-2011, 07:40 PM
don't get upset, eagle haters are just trying to get a rise out of eagle fans.



probably because philly fans talk so damn much but their teams rarely ever win anything. :lol:

NjbadSS
01-09-2011, 07:45 PM
Philly was the team that was supposed to go all the way and win it all, they started falling apart even before the playoffs started. Vick tried being superman but got figured out and look where it got him. Maybe another year the eagles can actually win a superbowl

WildBillyT
01-09-2011, 07:48 PM
Philly was the team that was supposed to go all the way and win it all

According to who? :?:

NjbadSS
01-09-2011, 07:56 PM
have you guys ever watched the nfl network? I would assume not. Lets rewind back a few weeks when they were winning, all you heard about was how the eagles were going to go right to the superbowl.

Frosty
01-09-2011, 07:59 PM
Philly was the team that was supposed to go all the way and win it all, they started falling apart even before the playoffs started. Vick tried being superman but got figured out and look where it got him. Maybe another year the eagles can actually win a superbowl

Can you please get me the name of your drug dealer because he's selling you some good stuff. :rofl: Who said the Eagles were supposed to go all the way? A few idiot Eagles fans? A few fans that are homers instead of football fans?

You're seriously delusional if you think the Eagles were supposed to go all the way...their D is way WAY too weak to make a serious run.

Again, if you're going to rip on them by all means do so but you're just making stuff up now.

EDIT: So because the NFL Network said they are they're supposed to? :rofl: Really? They're just as clueless as anyone else then, their D was too banged up and way too weak overall to get through some of the heavy hitters in the NFC and quite frankly no chance against a team like the Steelers or Pats in the AFC.

Frosty
01-09-2011, 07:59 PM
don't get upset, eagle haters are just trying to get a rise out of eagle fans.



probably because philly fans talk so damn much but their teams rarely ever win anything. :lol:

haha, touche.

NjbadSS
01-09-2011, 08:05 PM
a few eagles fans? Actually i am a huge nfl fan and follow every show that I can. When the eagles were winning games they all were talking about how far they were going this year. Keep blabbing all you want, I can care less. As for choking, the eagles played a great season, post season was around the corner and what happened?? No more dominating games because when it counts they crumple.

WildBillyT
01-09-2011, 08:09 PM
There may have been a ton of talk about them doing well late during the season. I remember hearing some of it. But as far as I'm concerned they played today like they did throughout the season. Which wasn't enough to move on. They needed to step it up and they didn't. I just don't see the choke of it though. A choke to me is when a team looks like a bunch of a-holes who can't do anything right, OR where there's a defining point where they threw away the game. I don't see either here. JMO, of course.

baddest434
01-09-2011, 08:19 PM
wouldn't "choking" be defined as ------like say, your team is winning by 31-17 in the 4th qtr and you lose 38-31. That would be choking!

what happened to the eagles today was none of that. They never even had a lead. They flat out got beat. GB was up to the task, the Eagles weren't. theres no shame in losing to GB. they are a good team. unlike the saints losing to the hawks!!

Did the better team win today? maybe, maybe not. But the team that played better today won.

so now eagle fans... jump upon the Patriot bandwagon. :mrgreen:

NjbadSS
01-09-2011, 08:24 PM
hmmm....patriot fan hating on the giants. Wonder why you guys would do thatttttttttttttt. Talk whatever **** you want about giants, they were supposed to have a 500 yr this year and ended 10-6.

Frosty
01-09-2011, 08:24 PM
a few eagles fans? Actually i am a huge nfl fan and follow every show that I can. When the eagles were winning games they all were talking about how far they were going this year. Keep blabbing all you want, I can care less. As for choking, the eagles played a great season, post season was around the corner and what happened?? No more dominating games because when it counts they crumple.

If you say so. The writing was on the wall after the Giants game, they figured out how to handle Vick for almost an entire game. For someone that supposedly watches every show they can I figured you'd see that. Face it man, you're making comments that have no substance other than ripping on them for the sake of ripping on them.

The Eagles O-line sucks, they can't pick up a blitz so McCoy and Celek have to stay in to help block, that limits Vick's options and time to throw the ball. Flush him out to his weak side if you have to, make him throw against his body. There's the way to contain Vick for the most part. He can only do so much and the Giants exposed some the Eagles' weaknesses. Combine that with Reid's lack of commitment to the run(sounds like a broken record for the last 12yrs) and you leave Vick or any QB for the Eagles as a sitting duck.

Shall I keep going or should I refer to the NFL Network? ;) The Packers drew up a great game plan and it worked....plus I think they paid off Akers to suck :rofl:

Frosty
01-09-2011, 08:28 PM
hmmm....patriot fan hating on the giants. Wonder why you guys would do thatttttttttttttt. Talk whatever **** you want about giants, they were supposed to have a 500 yr this year and ended 10-6.

Wait what? They were supposed to have a .500 season? :rofl: Really? See, we can play that game with the Eagles too, this year was supposed to be a "rebuilding" year because Kolb was supposed to be the starter and it was going to take a year or two to get his feet planted as the future of the team. AT BEST the Eagles were picked to go 9-7(worse by your beloved NFL Network BTW). All of that means nothing, the game is played on the field, not by some jack offs behind a desk.

I see now why you're hating, the Giants choked their season away by blowing a huge lead to the Eagles, the Eagles sent them packing so you're bitter. It's OK, I'm bitter too but at least I got to see the Eagles play in the playoffs, even if it was another loss.

Game. Set. Match. :D

***this is all in good fun BTW*** :) :) :)

NjbadSS
01-09-2011, 08:31 PM
If you say so. The writing was on the wall after the Giants game, they figured out how to handle Vick for almost an entire game. For someone that supposedly watches every show they can I figured you'd see that. Face it man, you're making comments that have no substance other than ripping on them for the sake of ripping on them.

The Eagles O-line sucks, they can't pick up a blitz so McCoy and Celek have to stay in to help block, that limits Vick's options and time to throw the ball. Flush him out to his weak side if you have to, make him throw against his body. There's the way to contain Vick for the most part. He can only do so much and the Giants exposed some the Eagles' weaknesses. Combine that with Reid's lack of commitment to the run(sounds like a broken record for the last 12yrs) and you leave Vick or any QB for the Eagles as a sitting duck.

Shall I keep going or should I refer to the NFL Network? ;) The Packers drew up a great game plan and it worked....plus I think they paid off Akers to suck :rofl:

Was I ball busting..yes. You are very right in a lot of what you say. I admit, the eagles were a dominant team after vick took over as starting qb and they won some big games. I say they choked because they won big games but when it came down to the ones that mattered, they didnt pull it off. Vick got pressure and didnt make big plays that he typically would have. That is why I say they choked

Frosty
01-09-2011, 08:35 PM
Think about it though, up until the Giants game no one really drew up a plan to contain him. Credit to the Giants for basically making a film for other teams. You pressure just about ANY QB in the league and they're going to make mistakes. It was just magnified that much more for the Eagles because of a bad O-line. I also blame Reid for some of that. The guy, for whatever reason, cannot adjust on the fly. It drives us fans absolutely bat**** crazy. The Eagles still have a lot to work on, as does Vick. Everyone got caught up in the hoopla because Vick was playing so well...it overshadowed the real problems.

I said it before, I had a bad feeling about this game and unfortunately I was right. :(

WildBillyT
01-09-2011, 08:37 PM
It was just magnified that much more for the Eagles because of a bad O-line. I also blame Reid for some of that. The guy, for
whatever reason, cannot adjust on the fly.

Because he is too busy dreaming about baby back ribs.

NjbadSS
01-09-2011, 08:40 PM
I always love football debates. I am a huge giants fan, we absolutely sucked this year and didnt deserve the playoffs. Eagles deserved to go to the playoffs because they were the better team. I just dont get how they cant finish the deal. Look at the talent the eagles have, there is no reason they could not beat the packers. I feel as if vick needs to stop being superman though and play like an nfl qb. They are VERY lucky he did not get injured trying to be the hero.

baddest434
01-09-2011, 08:50 PM
hmmm....patriot fan hating on the giants. Wonder why you guys would do thatttttttttttttt.

maybe it has something to do with SB XLII :rofl:

bastards :lol:

NjbadSS
01-09-2011, 08:53 PM
maybe it has something to do with SB XLII :rofl:

bastards :lol:

its all in good fun. I wouldnt tell many people but my pick since before the playoffs began was the patriots. As long as yas beat the jets, I am more then happy

baddest434
01-09-2011, 09:06 PM
As long as yas beat the jets, I am more then happy

we better beat the jets!! i HATE that team..
honestly i have a good feeling this is "our year" again.
but you never know.

Frosty
01-09-2011, 09:12 PM
The way they're playing and the year Brady is having anything less than a trip to the Super Bowl is a poor season IMO. It makes me sick to say it but I think it's their year...again.

JL8Jeff
01-09-2011, 09:16 PM
Andy Reid always has trouble managing his QB/clock properly in playoff games. I said 2 years ago if I were an Eagle fan I would want a new coach. I want a new Giants coach and I'm mad they're wasting time keeping Coughlin around.

Frosty
01-09-2011, 09:47 PM
I said about 7yrs ago that they'll never win a SB with Reid at the helm. But a pretty successful 12 year run(with a few bad years due to serious injuries) and 5 NFC Championship games is hard to make a case to fire him. His in-game adjustments are just horrible. I don't get it.

Oh well, time to cry myself to sleep then wake up for week full of work. :rofl:

NjbadSS
01-09-2011, 11:41 PM
I dont exactly agree that the giants should fire their coach. He has had good success with the giants, the giants were terrible this yr because of injuries, not coaching. I know there are some instances that you can say he blew it, but for what he was working with, he still managed a 10-6 season.

Slow-V6
01-10-2011, 07:51 AM
Well Mcnabb was suppose to be the reason why this team didnt win in the past. They got rid of Him and used Kolb and Vick and what happend? The same thing that happened last year.. 1 and done.. Last year our Defense wasnt that good, Our Oline sucked and recievers dropped all kinds of passes as well as Mcnabb throwing crappy passes.. This year the D sucked, The Oline sucked, Recievers dropped passes, and Vick had horrible passes as well.. What changed? Everyone blammed Mcnabb for the losses last year but now everyone is making excusses for the loss this year for Vick.. Bottom line is that Vick had a great season but in the end he came up short again!! He has had 1 good Post season run when they made it to the NFC Championship game and they lost to the Eagles.. Besides that year how is Vicks record in the playoffs?? Vick is a good QB and a much better choice then Kolb to run the Eagles offense.. Everyone said look out now that Vick has all these weapons and what not but in the end nothing happened and Vick and the Eagles could not come back and win the game just like Mcnabb couldnt come back and win the game!! Was Vick hurt during the last drive of the game last night and that could have hurt there chances to come back? Would they have a better shot with Kolb in there for the last drive then Vick? Would Kolb have underthrown the 27 yd pass to Cooper in the endzone like Vick did or would Kolb have even taken that shot with 50 seconds left to play?

I like Vick as my QB and he has come a long way this year but the guy is going to be 31 next season if there is a next season. Everytime he gets hit he seems to get hurt.. I dont see him being a winner the way Mcnabb was in the past with the team.. Vick has alot of heart and is a Leader but I think at times that gets the best of him and he makes bad desicions on the field..

In the end Reid needs to go and so does Mcdermet.

Slow-V6
01-10-2011, 07:52 AM
I dont exactly agree that the giants should fire their coach. He has had good success with the giants, the giants were terrible this yr because of injuries, not coaching. I know there are some instances that you can say he blew it, but for what he was working with, he still managed a 10-6 season.

Everyteam has injuries!! Thats no excuss to give up 28 points in 7 mins to lose a game when you are leading by 21.. That was there playoff game and they Choked!! They had a historic choke!!

Frosty
01-10-2011, 07:59 AM
You can't pin this loss on Vick, at all. Rushing the ball 12 times against a D that isn't good at stopping the run...no excuse. The offensive line is terrible so you keep throwing the ball? It was open season on Vick...AGAIN. Yet with all of that you can't tell me you didn't think they were going to win the game when they were driving down the field. When was the last time we felt that way with McNabb?

Vick made one mistake, one ball that he should have thrown a bit deeper. It's not Vick's fault that Akers sucked balls, it's not Vick's fault Celek stepped out of bounds.

The only constant is Reid, which like you said, should probably go. It's hard to let a coach go that has had success but at what point do you say regular season and some playoff success isn't enough?

Slow-V6
01-10-2011, 08:13 AM
You can't pin this loss on Vick, at all. Rushing the ball 12 times against a D that isn't good at stopping the run...no excuse. The offensive line is terrible so you keep throwing the ball? It was open season on Vick...AGAIN. Yet with all of that you can't tell me you didn't think they were going to win the game when they were driving down the field. When was the last time we felt that way with McNabb?

Vick made one mistake, one ball that he should have thrown a bit deeper. It's not Vick's fault that Akers sucked balls, it's not Vick's fault Celek stepped out of bounds.

The only constant is Reid, which like you said, should probably go. It's hard to let a coach go that has had success but at what point do you say regular season and some playoff success isn't enough?

I am looking at Vicks past post season wins/losses and looking at this years.. Mcnabb got killed in the playoff game last yr because this same Oline sucked just like it did this year.. Bottom line is that Vick had the ball with a chance to win the game and he couldnt do it! If Akers made those FG's or Celek didnt step out of bounds it would have been a different game but thats football!! If Kevin Curtis didnt drop that pass in the NFC championship 2yrs ago the Eagles would have won that game but that was blamed on Mcnabb..

Like I said before Vick had a chance to win the game. All this talk about how big of a arm he has or how accurate he has become and he underthrows a 27 yrd pass to Cooper!! Vicks game is avoiding the rush!! He didnt do that last night.. Everyone including Vick knows how bad the Oline. Thats what you game plan for!

My prediction is that the Sixers are going to win a Championship before the Eagles do!!

Frosty
01-10-2011, 08:22 AM
So because he made a bad pass he doesn't have a big arm? C'mon man. I don't like Vick as a person, I still have trouble getting over what he did so I'm actually biased against him....but you can't blame him for this loss. There were a ton of other factors that led to this loss. His bad pass was just icing on the cake. No one was on his back when they were putting up 30+pts a game and when he was carrying the team. To flip on him now is hypocritical. The man threw one bad pass. His past means nothing, he wasn't a QB in years past, he was an athlete playing the position. This year he actually learned how to play the position. Like he said in the post-game interview, he got greedy. Emotions were running high, they were moving the ball and he took a shot into the end zone. I ask again, when was the last time, as Eagles fans, did we feel confident that McNabb was going to lead the team down the field and score a touchdown when it counted? Aside from one drive in Chicago last year I couldn't name a time. Vick proved this year he's 10x's the leader McNabb ever was. He'll be back next year, he'll learn the offense that much more, he'll be coached that much more.

Now if only they can fill some huge holes on the defense.

Slow-V6
01-10-2011, 08:37 AM
He had a bad game against the Vikings as well which would have ment a 1st round bye.. He had 3 turnovers in that game but I stood by him saying that he had a bad game..

Vick got sacked a ton of times this year and it was because of the crappy Oline.. Mcnabb got sacked a ton last year with the Eagles and that same Oline and it was because he hung onto the ball to long!!

Vick stated in the 1st meeting with the Packs that if he had played all four 1/4's against them that the Eagles would win!! Well he got his chance and the Eagles lost.. Who did the Eagles beat this year that are playoff teams? Atlanta, Indy.. Who else? It seems like 5 games or so that teams found out how to defend Vick and it has shown in his play!! I would take Mcnabb in his 1st 5yrs over Vick any day..

You tell me.. Based off of this year is Vick a big game QB??

GB killed us yesterday.. They had so many dropped TD passes that they should have blown us out but for some reason the football Gods let the Eagles stay in it for a last drive that would have won the game but just like years in the past they couldnt pull it off!! I dont know about you but I get sick of saying oh we will get them next year!!

Frosty
01-10-2011, 08:56 AM
Yes, Vick is a big game QB based on this year. You can't blame him for Minnesota either, the team as a whole was completely arrogant, the coaching staff didn't have them prepared. Vick had one interception, big deal. The team as a whole didn't play well and Green Bay was the better team. You talk about how GB dropped passes and should have blown us out, how is that Vick's fault? Its' not.

Is it Vick's fault Reid abandoned the run...AGAIN? No. Is it Vick's fault the play calling sucked....AGAIN? No. Does Vick shoulder some of the blame? Of course he does just like every player...but to point him out in a game filled with mistakes, bad play calling and just a piss poor effort is ludicrous. If you want to hate on him fine, if you want to blame him fine....you can join the rest of the Eagles fans that want to bash for the sake of bashing.

....and yes I'd take McNabb in his first few years over Vick but that ship has sailed long, long ago :rofl:

Frosty
01-10-2011, 09:02 AM
...and now that football is over for me, for the most part LETS GO FLYERS! :lol:

But for now I'm a Pats fan and a Steelers fan. F the Jets and the Ravens.

LTb1ow
01-10-2011, 09:35 AM
So the eagles lost, yes?

Blacdout96
01-10-2011, 10:06 AM
Football sucks period. Flyers are tearing it up, and all I keep hearing about is the Philadelphia chokers.

So on that note, I hope the Seahawks take it all the way, and then the NFL goes into a coma next year so we can focus on an actual philaelphia team that is interesting.

Frosty
01-10-2011, 10:11 AM
Yeah, definitely looking forward to the Flyers run. It should be a good one.

deadtrend1
01-10-2011, 11:18 AM
...and now that football is over for me, for the most part LETS GO FLYERS! :lol:

But for now I'm a Pats fan and a Steelers fan. F the Jets and the Ravens.

Go steelers!!

Slow-V6
01-10-2011, 11:26 AM
Yes, Vick is a big game QB based on this year.

you can join the rest of the Eagles fans that want to bash for the sake of bashing.

....and yes I'd take McNabb in his first few years over Vick but that ship has sailed long, long ago :rofl:



The 2 biggest games this year the team lost!! Was it do completely to Vick? No but he did have 4 turnovers in those 2 games alone and I believe He could have brought them back and won the game but he didnt..

The coaching sucks as well just like it did last year with Mcnabb but everyone just blamed Mcnabb for there loss.. Why??

You defended Leighton when he gave up that weak ass goal to loose the Stanley cup as well!! Look what happened to him!! Didnt the Flyers get rid of him this year? Why is that if He is so good?

Mike vick is a good QB but in the past 2 games when it mattered the most did not play good.. Is that his fault? Dont know.. sure looked like it from were I was sitting.. If the plays sucked then Why didnt Vick change them in the huddle or at the line? Isnt that one thing that pissed people off about Mcnabb is that he wasnt in control of the offense.. Well the same can be said about Vick!! He decides to do his thing when He sees 1 on 1 coverage with Riley Cooper!! Not Jackson, Not Maclin, Not Avant, Not Celek, Not Shaddy but Cooper.. Comon man.. You have the best recieving corps the Eagles have had in a very long time and you throw it up to a rookie to try to win the game for you when Jackson had a 40 yard gain 2 plays before??

The Oline sucked all year but Vick had a great season, the Defense sucked all year but the Eagles won. The difference between those games and these last 2 games was the play of Vick!! He had a 77 QB rating and had 4 turnovers in those 2 games.. Same offensive line that was there during the Skins game and the Giants game as well..

He is your QB and the reason why you made it this far but still in the end we are right back to were we were last year at the end of the season!!

foff667
01-10-2011, 11:39 AM
Typical bitter Eagles fan! :lol: I still can't believe Akers missed those kicks.

Yeah, this in itself was a bit of a choke. The guy hits 85% of his fieldgoals during the regular season then hits 1/3 and the two misses are relative chipshots for an NFL kicker ie 40-45 yards for each.

If he hits both they theoretically win.

If he hits one they are down 21-19 and vick doesn't need to throw a TD at the end to win.

I would say that if the Eagles don't qualify as choking then Akers surely does.

Choke
: to lose one's composure and fail to perform effectively in a critical situation <had a chance to win the game but he choked>

Blacdout96
01-10-2011, 12:28 PM
You defended Leighton when he gave up that weak ass goal to loose the Stanley cup as well!! Look what happened to him!! Didnt the Flyers get rid of him this year? Why is that if He is so good?




The Flyers were cinderella's going into the finals, I didn't expect them to get past the Bruins, but fluke comebacks allowed them to make it to the finals. When they entered the series against the Blackhawks, I could see right away they were exhausted, and alot of pressure was upon them, they just werent playing like they did against the Canadaians, they played a great series and I commended them, but I didn't even once curse the Blackhawks because they were the better team right out of the box.

And as far as Leighton goes, he was a rookie goalie. Even though he was very impressive between the posts, he's still got alot to learn, look at Boucher, or Chechmanek, looked impressive during regular season, come playoff time, pressure changes things. I'm no way saying at all Leighton sucked, he was awesome, and I do feel he carried the team most of the way, and to blame him on a fluke goal is dumb, it happens, that's hockey, it was in overtime, which is why it's sudden death. I'm still puzzled as to why we got rid of him, I think if we held on to him, he would of bee na great asset to the team, or at least a great back up.

As for Vick, I seen less then desirable defense on the eagles part, dumb penalties on their part, Ball dropping from Avant, a veteran kicker aiming for the corner of the field instead of making 3 pointers, and overall a mess on the field. It happens.

Frosty
01-10-2011, 03:46 PM
You defended Leighton when he gave up that weak ass goal to loose the Stanley cup as well!! Look what happened to him!! Didnt the Flyers get rid of him this year? Why is that if He is so good?



HUH? What does Leighton have to do with Vick or the Eagles? Dude, no offense but I'm completely convinced that you don't watch or have any clue about sports if you're bringing Leighton into this. I never said Leighton was great. I merely defending him in the series. But that's old news, I'm still trying to figure out the relevance in this. Also, in case you haven't watched a single game this year, Boosh and Bobs have played very well...why would you break that up in order to give Leights time to "maybe" get back into form? Furthermore he hid his back injury to the team prior to signing his contract extension. Should I keep going? lol


The Oline sucked all year but Vick had a great season, the Defense sucked all year but the Eagles won. The difference between those games and these last 2 games was the play of Vick!! He had a 77 QB rating and had 4 turnovers in those 2 games.. Same offensive line that was there during the Skins game and the Giants game as well..



You can't be serious....you REALLY can't be serious to compare the Washington game with their D scheme and the Giants D scheme. Completely and utterly different. Washington sat back and blitzed maybe 3 or 4 times the entire game. The Giants, Vikings and Packers all blitzed a lot more, A LOT. The O-line was the same in the beginning of the year? Really? The D was the same? Have you not watched player after player go down game after game? I'm done dude, you can fall into the rest of the Eagles fans out there that have no idea as to what's going on and just want to randomly blame people. If you want to completely bypass every bad play, every missed opportunity and focus in on ONE play then so be it....it makes no sense but then so be it. I'm really confused regarding you thinking the O line and D was the same from the beginning of the year...and that statement is completely not true and not accurate. The Eagles didn't all suddenly get hurt in Week 1 :rofl:. I've said my piece....no point in going any further in discussing it.

Slow-V6
01-10-2011, 03:56 PM
As for Vick, I seen less then desirable defense on the eagles part, dumb penalties on their part, Ball dropping from Avant, a veteran kicker aiming for the corner of the field instead of making 3 pointers, and overall a mess on the field. It happens.

Being a Philly fan it does happen. Year in and year out.. You forgot about the 2 chances they had for the 2 point conversion were Celek stepped out of bounds and Vick just flopped on the second attempt..


They have the issue that they had with Mcnabb. All these young players with a older QB.. The team needs some Veterans on the field.. By the time these young players grow into a complete team Vick will be 34 yrs old..

Now Kolb wants out if he aint the starter, AKers wants out, We are too small on Defense. Now we need to get some D lineman, O Lineman, LB's, CB's, Backup QB, Kicker. The Eagles are in alot of Hurt. Will they give a contract to Jackson? who knows. He is inconsistant to deserve the big money that The best recievers get in the NFL and He wont except anything less. Do the Eagles resign Vick and let Kolb go? They need to make some decisions and soon.

HUH? What does Leighton have to do with Vick or the Eagles? Dude, no offense but I'm completely convinced that you don't watch or have any clue about sports if you're bringing Leighton into this. I never said Leighton was great. I merely defending him in the series. But that's old news, I'm still trying to figure out the relevance in this. Also, in case you haven't watched a single game this year, Boosh and Bobs have played very well...why would you break that up in order to give Leights time to "maybe" get back into form? Furthermore he hid his back injury to the team prior to signing his contract extension. Should I keep going? lol



You can't be serious....you REALLY can't be serious to compare the Washington game with their D scheme and the Giants D scheme. Completely and utterly different. Washington sat back and blitzed maybe 3 or 4 times the entire game. The Giants, Vikings and Packers all blitzed a lot more, A LOT. The O-line was the same in the beginning of the year? Really? The D was the same? Have you not watched player after player go down game after game? I'm done dude, you can fall into the rest of the Eagles fans out there that have no idea as to what's going on and just want to randomly blame people. If you want to completely bypass every bad play, every missed opportunity and focus in on ONE play then so be it....it makes no sense but then so be it. I'm really confused regarding you thinking the O line and D was the same from the beginning of the year...and that statement is completely not true and not accurate. The Eagles didn't all suddenly get hurt in Week 1 :rofl:. I've said my piece....no point in going any further in discussing it.

My point is that you have that, Its cool we will get them next year.. Dont you get sick and tired of coming so close and loosing it on stupid plays? I know I do.. For me I am starting to think that there might not be another chance next year!! How long can a team be good enough to win a championship?

I am sorry but Stewart Bradley was not having a great season, Brandon Grahm was not really used at all, and there Rookie safty started out hot but faultered off in the end until he got hurt.. Am I missing anyone else? Ellis Hobbs maybe? There O line lost who? Jackson there center but he was lost in the 1st game of the season if I remember correctly.. Winston Justice was benched yesterday for King Dunlap.. Instead of blaming the players who played the game we can blame it on the injuries I guess..

We lost the game because our D-fense couldnt stop the Packers in the red zone, David akers missed 2 FG's, and Vick couldnt get the 2 point conversion and the throw in the endzone at the end of the game.. Those are the 3 areas I see were we struggled the most.. Vick doesnt derserve all the blame on this game your right.. All I am saying is that He was given the chance to win the game and he couldnt. The biggest game of the season. They were down by 5 with 50 seconds left in the game with a 1st and 10 at the packers 27 yrd line.. Forget how bad the team played and what not.. You have a chance to win the game for the team and be the hero in the PLAYOFFS and back up what you said about playing all four 1/4's and beating GB. Vick is not a rookie.. This is like his 8th year in the NFL. He has been to the playoffs before while playing for Atlanta.. Pro Bowl QB and said that He thinks He is the MVP of the League.. That was His chance to prove it. If this was Mcnabb and he threw this pick I could only imagine what everyone would be saying..

Oh and GB didnt really blitz a whole lot yesterday.. They gave Vick alot of Defensive looks and I think they fooled him into making bad choices.

baddest434
01-10-2011, 04:30 PM
. He thinks He is the MVP of the League..


sorry but no way mr.vick

we all know who the MVP is this year.:wink:

Slow-V6
01-10-2011, 04:32 PM
sorry but no way mr.vick

we all know who the MVP is this year.:wink:

I agree with you 100%. I just posted up what he said at a interview on the News.. After the 3 turnover game he had against the Vikes that was the end of the MVP talk on him.. I would give him the most improved player award if there is one..

Blacdout96
01-11-2011, 10:33 AM
we all know who the MVP is this year.:wink:

Tom Brady's hair?

Frosty
01-11-2011, 10:35 AM
...or the product he uses :rofl:

Slow-V6
01-11-2011, 11:11 AM
Just heard what Big Red said on his Coachs show last night about that this year was a success because not to many teams that retooled the way the Eagles did this past year would still have a shot at a SB!! At the begining of the year The Eagles said that this is not a rebuilding/Retooling year now that they lost it was?? This whole Organization needs to be retooled!!

RiggsLW81
01-17-2011, 12:16 PM
so with 4 teams left...whats your prediction for the super bowl?

BEARS VS JETS...AND MY BEARS ARE TAKING IT ALL!!!

Frosty
01-17-2011, 12:20 PM
Steelers/Rapistberger and Bears, Steelers winning it.

Of course that won't happen, my predictions have been off this year, especially yesterday.

LS1Hawk
01-17-2011, 01:12 PM
I think it will be Packers vs. Steelers.

baddest434
01-17-2011, 02:29 PM
packers vs steelers and i could care less who wins.

NastyEllEssWon
01-17-2011, 03:38 PM
packers/jets. jets win

Tru2Chevy
01-17-2011, 04:41 PM
I'm gonna say Packers / Steelers - Steelers win. Although I would rather see the Bears in.

- Justin

Slow-V6
01-17-2011, 04:43 PM
Jets/Bears with Jets winning!!

mc73nova
01-17-2011, 08:22 PM
Very unpredictable so far, I have been wrong several times already. I would guess: Packers Vs. Steelers in the Super Bowl. I am going to wait and see the Championship games before I pick a Super Bowl Winner.

Facts:
I hate the Bears.
I hate Jets fans*. Why you ask? Half of them are fake, the other half agree with what they are doing. They are trash talking like they are in high school, you are professional athletes, act like it.

*with the exception of you, Mike!

BurninrubberGT
01-20-2011, 09:42 PM
jets packers, said it from the preseason so il stick to it

NjbadSS
01-21-2011, 02:36 PM
Very unpredictable so far, I have been wrong several times already. I would guess: Packers Vs. Steelers in the Super Bowl. I am going to wait and see the Championship games before I pick a Super Bowl Winner.

Facts:
I hate the Bears.
I hate Jets fans*. Why you ask? Half of them are fake, the other half agree with what they are doing. They are trash talking like they are in high school, you are professional athletes, act like it.

*with the exception of you, Mike!

very very true. My new favorite thing to do when I see sommeone out in their jets gear is say hey man big jets fan? NICE. Can you name 5 players on your team, and sanchez doesnt count! Also get them almost everytime when you say the same and end it with cool man, what year did you guys win the superbowl again??

NastyEllEssWon
01-21-2011, 06:03 PM
very very true. My new favorite thing to do when I see sommeone out in their jets gear is say hey man big jets fan? NICE. Can you name 5 players on your team, and sanchez doesnt count! Also get them almost everytime when you say the same and end it with cool man, what year did you guys win the superbowl again??



lol thats not very hard to do. i can name a bunch and im not even a jets fan :nod:

JL8Jeff
01-21-2011, 06:14 PM
I think it's gonna be Packers/Steelers and Packers winning it all.

NjbadSS
01-21-2011, 09:37 PM
lol thats not very hard to do. i can name a bunch and im not even a jets fan :nod:

but you are an all around nfl fan. I can usually tell fake fans more about their "team" then they know as well and I am not a fan of them. It is always funny to see their reaction when they have no idea names of players and they scratch their head debating championship years.